he doesn't care about how the birth affects women - he cares how it affects him. HE didn't have to "put up" with her screaming in pain during contractions + pushing. He didn't have to see blood. "THEY" cheated birth. 🙄
He has contempt for women. That’s what I just realized. I couldn’t put my finger on what it was about him that was so off putting this whole time. But the way he down plays EVERYTHING she talks about going thru/somehow makes it about himself.
He didn't agree to a second baby, she got pregnant like 4 months after giving birth to her first kid cause they thought she couldn't get pregnant whilst she was breastfeeding and they weren't using protection.
I'm pretty sure baby #2 wasn't planned. Not an excuse for his behavior. Just pointing out that he didn't "agree" to having another baby prior to finding out she was pregnant. They talked about how the unexpected pregnancy was very emotional for both of them when they posted her checking the pregnancy test results and finding out she was pregnant. Neither seemed enthused about it, to be honest, at least from what I remember.
@lyndellrobinson3611 but he should've known the consequences of not using protection...if he was so concerned about his "career" he should've taken every precaution necessary. And most definitely he should not lay into her about his hang ups like he had no part in it.
@@CatbotsAttack I mean, most guys don't think of the consequences of unprotected sex, they mostly put that on women. Most of the time all they really care about is whether they have sex or not so you can't only blame Matt for getting her pregnant, after all she had to consent to the unprotected devil's tango. She's also not as innocent in any of their problems as it appears since she tends to enable much of his behaviour and for the most part she's the brains behind the brand cause Matt is not very bright. Like, he doesn't have much common sense and it seems like he's always had someone to do everything for him so he doesn't really know how to think for himself.
@@myfairytalelife3 I wasn't only blaming him, but it was so awful of him to make her feel worse about a mutually distressing situation. edit: lmao "devils tango"
he actually makes me so incredibly angry. Abby was cut open and had a baby removed from her - but "THEY" cheated birth??? That just shows how little he thinks about how the birthing process affects Abby (or women in general). She couldn't hold her baby after Matt. You weren't there for her FOR TWO DAYS after she had INVASIVE surgery and an emotional event. What a fucking turd.
Man child. Now she's got 3 to take care of. If this is how he's acting immediately after birth I can't imagine how he acts when he has to literally care for a child
This grown man felt mad that his wife (who just gave birth to their most recently baby via a MAJOR surgery) was unable to care for their other child. This man was mad that he had to fulfil his parenting duties and just told the whole world how poor of a partner he was let alone likely a poor parent too; the absent but present kind
Way too many men are this way. You’ll hear them pat themselves on the back for “babysitting” their own child. As if that’s not the bare minimum of being a parent.
I just know they’re going to spin this as some “men’s mental health is important too” campaign. Something is seriously wrong with this dude and he’s got that woman brainwashed. He’s giving Chris Watts vibes.
@@katina6961wait i dont really watch them, why does he seem like that? definitely i could see it with the “baby blues” situation … like genuinely was so infuriating to watch
@@seeknnndestroy he’s constantly putting her down and gaslighting her to think she somehow is the problem when really it’s just him. He acts like the world revolves around him and that’s super red flag behavior for a parent!
My ex posted this after I broke up with him for being racist verbally abusive and SA’ying me and I was like 🤦🏻♀️this man is delusional. Yes men’s mental health matters but not YOURS not after what you did.
It is actually not so uncommon, but he obviously still has those thoughts even after the big shock that birth can give some people … he obviously still doesn’t want the kids and doesn’t even take care of anything but his life
What about when he tells her sex doesn’t feel the same after she’s had two kids. She asks him if he still likes it, and he pauses and then acts like it’s okay. I can’t stand him.
Worst thing he's ever said. Idk why it was even brought up, idk why Abby wanted to know, especially on their podcast (they def could've had a private conversation about that)
He doesnt even take in what shes saying. Like shes still trying to say you werent there for me, it was HARD for me, as shes wiping away tears and he continues to try and talk over her about how hard this was for HIM. Sir, she grew and gave birth to your baby while you were being a completely unsupportive emotional nightmare. He's a complete and total narcissist.
She definitely enables his behavior by not speaking up against what he’s doing. It’s crazy to hear him talk about her and then the next phrase is “we” and then “but I”
I think it’s because he’s her first and only, she had nothing to compare him too. It’s happened to me before and my dumbass would defend my ex bc he was my first. I hope she snaps out of it soon
She's been raised to. My first marriage same thing. I was raised Seventh day Adventist. I felt if I wasn't beaten then my problems were small. My unhalpiness.... selfish. It wasn't until he cheated and gaslit me about it that I left and found that I was carrying so much guilt from what I thought I had to be or had to take as a wife. She's going to find her way. She just has to find someone close that helps her see that her feelings are valid.
I feel like they ARE rage baiting period. Abby's honestly not any better. She's cried publicly about how her son might grow up in a 'man hating world'. like wtf. She got a little sensitive about men being held accountable. That's new for these two children.
Honestly, for that bit, I think she’s worrying about the stereotypes that even innocent men have to face, and since she’s a mother of 2 boys, I think it’s a valid worry
They are definitely both so problematic. But is it really rage baiting? I seriously can't tell. It feels like it could be, but at the same time WHY would you want to make a living on people thinking your marriage is terrible lol.
@@Hanelyugl they don’t seem like the type to be rage baiting. They’ve known eachother since middle school, they’re probably so used to each other, they don’t realise how crazy the things they say are.
What about her father who lives with them, along with her mother...who is the children's care taker. No fathers day for Abbys father? They did have a father's day.....Matt got a gift it's on one of their vlogs
The way Matt was speaking about "the baby blues" almost felt like he was thinking that woman have a similar feeling "career goals being affected due to having a child and that you feel like your life if over" … when primarily it’s hormones / life conditions (no help / struggling financially / etc.) that cause postpartum depression. He seems like a man child.
And the reasons you listed, for women - are exactly why many women will give up their babies, for adoption. Fear of a lack of resources and support. Not because they don’t want to be a mother, to their child.
He’s just trying to talk about how he feels. I don’t understand the issue with making a comparison. He obviously said it’s not related but he said maybe it’s similar, as he is not Abby and Abby is not him. OBVIOUSLY ITS DIFFERENT. HE SAID THAT INITIALLY
@@Blubreethe issue is that giving her the silent treatment for two days after she had his child literally cut out of her body because "boo hoo I have to think about someone other than myself now" is abusive ASF 🙄
As someone who had a c section and a regular birth I can tell you that c section is NOT the easy way out. I was in so much pain just getting out of bed that I had tears in my eyes. I’m nine weeks after and I still have some pain.
It's a major surgery and very hard on the body (you're literally being cut open lol). If he had to go through something similar Abby would never hear the end of it
I've never had a c section, but I've had two other pretty major abdominal surgeries and that shit sucked! I can only imagine a c section delivers similar, possibly even worse pain. And it also comes with postpartum hormonal changes and the responsibility of a newborn! That's no joke. Mad respect to anyone who has given birth by either method.
Same. I’ve done both and the c section by far was WAYYY more painful and much harder to recover from. Absolutely AWFUL. I’d never get a c section if I didn’t need it. I had twins so I had to. never again. So so painful.
His parents should be ashamed of how he is. He acts like a child not getting his way. If he didn't want kids, then do something to prevent it. He is the definition of well my feelings matter more than yours energy.
it’s unfortunate that ppl like this can pop out so many babies but many infertile women having miscarriages left and right would do anything for a baby
The girl WANTS to be a baby machine.. as far as I know Abby keeps pushing Matt to have more kids.. for now thank God she has stopped but she keeps talking about wanting more kids even though Matt has many a times said that he's happy with two and more than that would be a lot for him to handle. Just because Matt is a man that doesn't mean his opinion regarding how many kids they should have won't mean shit!
No for real. Do you all remember the video of her telling him she was pregnant again? She was terrified of his reaction. She was literally more afraid about what he would think than she was about having a second child so quickly after the first.
Then he shouldn't be having unprotected sex with his wife if he's going to get upset that two fertile people having sex end up pregnant. Gosh, this guy just gets worse the more I hear 🙄
Personally, the days after birth are important. Some people never forget how people treated them then. I went through a lot and it messed me up. Of course, the dads can experience emotions too- but when your wife JUST went through one of the hardest experiences in a woman’s life… you need to find a way to communicate that. You can’t cold shoulder someone because you’re a pissed-little baby-man.
It’s literally just rage bait. They’re both in on it. It’s their job they’re not dumb. Can’t believe everyone is just falling for it and being team abbey whilst they’re just racking in the $$$
@@Mimi-sg6fe I mean, a lot of people become a whole different person when they get married. Also they got married very young so it could've just been the wrong decision. Sure, she chose him, but, if all of this isn't ragebait, it doesn't mean she deserves being treated this way.
These conversations are meant to be between them in private, in the bedroom, in therapy or at the dinner table. Not on a podcast....... What is worst, she talks bout her needing help, and struggling... then he somehow makes it about himself. All about him.
Hold on, wait... did he said after having a baby he emotionally disconnected from his wife because his life was changing? idk about baby blues but I really feel like that is just purposeful neglect.
Yes it's so fake the way he feels the need to post every "happy" moment to prove he is a decent person. It's like they have to provide that they are happy to others but it just comes off as so fake
Omg wow! He felt overwhelmed being a father full time for a day or two so you go silent and ignore your wife…. The fact that he isn’t sorry about it, or seem recognize how self centered and immature a response that is even more upsetting than the experience.
I'm not sure if they're intentionally rage baiting... I think their relationship is just truly terrible, Abby wants it to work, is clearly overwhelmed, trusts Matt, but Matt seems to gaslight her a lot. I wouldn't be surprised if Matt gaslights her into thinking he's right, and she's so hormonal, she's going to think he's being the logical one, because she's hormonal. I've seen some clips, where it seems like she's starting to see it. I think they were highschool sweethearts that got married young, and had no concerns about, when you turn 25. Around 25, your brain drastically changes. Your way of thinking just completely transforms. Matt is absolutely a narcissist. I can't stand the overuse of that term, but he is. It's obvious in nearly every podcast. It's all about him, all the time.
Every clip I see of this relationship makes me so thankful for my partner, their respect, and legitimate support in my life. She deserves so much better than this egotistical man-child.
He's upset that his birthday is on or around Father's Day, yet mine and one of my children's birthdays, are literal days from Christmas..... Boo. Fucking. Hoo.... I used to love watching her videos because I could relate but now... I'm disappointed
Literally this. My husband's birthday is right between Christmas and New Years and he has never complained. My in laws and I all have March and April birthdays so we just get together and celebrate them all at once
I was also born on Father’s Day and my dad birthday. My dad has never complained sharing a birthday with his daughter and every 6 years our birthday lands on Fathers Day.
I really hope Abbey raises her boys to be more accountable and self reflective as men and not like Matt. He always finds a way to justify his brat behaviour.
Abby is allowing Matt to not mature and grow. She needs to give him an ultimatum. I get it they met super young and were so comfortable w each other it’s easy to just stop personal growth but they have kids now and if they want to exemplify a healthy relationship to their kids and not carry resentment into their marriage they need serious boundaries and Abby needs to stick by it and leave if he doesn’t grow tf up. His incredible immaturity boarders in narcissism. As someone who’s still with my hs sweetheart I feel I have some insight into the unique challenges it brings.
Maybe Abby have low self esteem, that’s why she takes so much bs from him, cause literally nothing about him seem worthy enough to even be with him let alone marry! It’s like having 3 kids what woman wants to deal with that? It’s crazy.
The issue is that they got together so young and while she seems to have tried to grow as a person with him, he seems to want to stay a teenager and just do whatever he wants and doesn’t seem to want to grow as a person or partner.
My son's birthday has landed on Father's Day a couple of times. His Dad just wanted to celebrate my kid when that happened and never asked me to make it up to him on a later date. Real Dads know what's up. This man is super immature. I couldn't handle it, because my husband has always been super mature since we started dating when he was only 18.
It’s not uncommon for men to feel this way after their spouse gives birth, HOWEVER, these are things he should be talking about in therapy NOT on a podcast.
It’s not even Abby that is the problem. She seems so sweet, just blind in love and wanting to make her family work out. It’s all Matt. He seems lazy, uncaring, and cold hearted.
If my husband who got me pregnant and wanted children felt like his life was over because he then had to take care of the child briefly I would become a single mother legally because he’s already making me one unofficially
they themselves haven't finished growing up and they are having children!! they are so childish, how are they going to raise a child! ughhh! Also that guy is everything i don't want in a partner... like a proper "walking-talking red-flag"! Won't be surprised if he cheats on her in future, then makes a lame public apology and she forgives him cause "ned fulmer effect"!
Why do people have children when they dont want to?? If you feel like your life and dreams are going to be "over" If you have children then dont have kids??
At this point her not telling him to stfu, she somewhat deserves it. She can leave him, but she stays with him. I'm done with people who stay in bad relationships. Especially when they have opportunities to be on their own.
Their content used to pop up a lot for me and he always rubbed me the wrong way. When she found out she was pregnant for the second time and she seemed actually devastated, I couldn't even peek at their stuff anymore.
can we talk about how their entire family uprooted themselves to follow them to LA after abbys most recent pregnancy, but now that matt is making shitty music and spending a lot of time in nashville hes wanting everyone to move there now? its soooo selfish of him to have everyone just completely up and change their lives again when so much is going on already just for his sub-par music career that most definitely isnt going anywhere
He sucks, but she isn’t much better. They have a weird competition thing between the two of them. It’s always “I’m working out harder” or “I got less sleep than you” or “I’m sicker than you are”… they just seem unhealthy all around.
I think he wants everything to be traditional and he has a skewed view. TMI further, but I had 2 c-sections, and frankly, it is not cheating. It’s major abdominal surgery. Some women can do it naturally and bounce back quicker, but each and every birth/labor/delivery should be considered REAL. Just because 1 person does it like it’s nothing does NOT negate all the women who have suffered and died. Or who have to suffer with health problems due to their traumatic experience.
Matt can’t even help his wife that carried a whole baby for 9 months! ironic how he experienced just a small part of how moms have to deal with taking care of the kids and the house and so much more but yet he couldn’t even last a week in not complaining that he had to do something for just a very short time period. This is what most women do not want to have as a partner. not giving support and dedication that’s needed is not ok and everyone needs someone to be supportive in any situation they are in whether it’s C section, pregnancy journey, or even life changing situations. I hope Abby goes to therapy and defends herself and her kids.
Imagine being mad at your wife for days after she has your child. This is an overgrown boy, not a man. He HAS to be the centre of attention, and he seems the type to get pissed off at his wife for showing more attention to her kids.
He gives off major spoiled brat only child syndrome like how dare u be sad and go thru stuff when I wanna do something like get over it so I can work on my stuff it’s crazy Father’s Day and birthday two days that’s about u u dnt wanna celebrate together but then when something is about ur wife and child u cnt have that I’m sad and mad like wtf smh
Whenever I was in labor, I remember screaming through ONLY 2 hours of pushing for a C-section and did not have to have one, thank goodness. I've got a cousin with 6 kids and she's had at least 3 or 4 c-sections and it's an insane, serious, and traumatic procedure. It's a looooot harder than a natural birth and should not be diminished by ANYONE, let alone this man-baby who could never begin to understand that trauma.
I don't understand how this grown man baby has a wife and two kids? Like she had to carry a whole ass child for 9 months TWICE and this dude is pulling the clown card and sooking because "I don't get to celebrate more me boohoo"
Listen yall, I understand being upset that Abby is enabling this behavior, but let’s not victim blame. If he’s like this on camera, imagine what he does out of the spotlight. For all we know, she could be going along with it for her own safety. Leaving abusive relationships is extremely hard, please be kind.
Misery loves company. When you haven't felt seen or truly love before, its easy to accept the situations and think it's okay. I see relationships like this all the time, they are just meant for each other, for how long who knows. People are something else, it is entertaining and i just kick back, wish em luck at the pursuit of happiness. We all have our journeys. I appreciate their honesty, i give them that. Nobody's perfect and each have a different meaning of "perfect" or "normal".
In the postpartum video she seems so fed up with him, understandably. "you're never gonna understand" she really tried to keep him from making ut about himself and yet he did 😂, I don't think he's a bad perosn but I do think they don't work as a couple. She's been really finding herself lately and I hope she does the necessary things to be at peace and happy, whatever that means for the both of them
His whole demeanor, dismissing his wife’s struggles after JUST HAVING a C section to focus on HIS struggles, and his tantrum on not having a whole day to celebrate father’s day for him just sounds like he hasn’t accepted being a father and holds a grudge for it.
The role is reversed many mothers get absolutely nothing for birthdays and Mother’s Day lol. I’d love to know what all he does for her considering what all he expects