This Time the TRANGIA May Have FINALLY MET ITS MATCH! - Goshawk Steampunk (Not Clickbait!)

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We have looked at many, many alcohol stoves on the channel. In the end when it comes to comparisons, it seems that I always fall back on the tried and true Trangia spirit burner as my favorite. I recently ran across a very interesting stove from the company Goshawk out of Australia. Have I finally found a Trangia Replacement?!
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@daveebert7747 3 года назад

A strong testament to how good the Trangia is if you’ve been trying to find something to better for or 10 years, just saying. Yes I own a Trangia and love it as well.

@maroon2k 2 года назад

Still using the Trangia I was issued in the Swedish army in 1991, no maintenance, not even had to replace the rubber gasket... Maybe this one is better but I think it needs to be tested for a few years before anyone can really say that :-)

@lapicker1010 3 года назад

At almost 40 bucks with shipping, it’s not enough of an improvement to justify the price (IMHO of course). Appreciate your giving us a look at it Ernie!

@robg521 3 года назад

They have sale on at the moment 33bucks instead of 43. So it’s new cost is only 3 times more expensive than a Trangia instead of 4. Bargain !.... or perhaps not 🤔

@wowguy3562 Год назад

I just bought the steampunk for 40 bucks, stove is 25 on sale right now and 15 shipping for 40 total

@georgecurtis6463 3 года назад

The constant comparisons of stoves and talking about seconds and ozs just cracks me up. Such silliness. You loose more when you take a crap.

@georgecurtis6463 4 месяца назад

@@joedietz9427 you mean like no matter what we still seek more knowledge ? To woke ?

@HardyBunster 3 года назад

It’s Goshawk. Gos-hawk. A large bird of prey. Like Sparrow-hawk. 👍

@bathcolin 3 года назад

Well said Hardy.

@MoejoTheGreat 2 года назад

Like the Douglas t45 trainer jet.

@richardhardy7523 Год назад

Great comparison. One thing I'm not sure mentioned is... There is a lot to be said for 10 year's experience with a piece of gear, especially if you have to replace it quickly. The Trangia is available in most near-trail stores, at least on the AT in VA. And if it's an ounce different in weight this way or that, or not DRAMATICALLY more efficient, I would go with proven gear and the experience in using it. My trangias have NEVER failed, in now 15 years. 👍

@hoser7706 Год назад

I was going to write that Trangia were always sold or used with wider pots over their wider flame pattern. However it seems more people use smaller, narrower pots where siphon designed pattterns may be more efficient.

@99Racker 3 года назад

Folks are always trying to improve the mouse trap. Sometimes we just need to say, "good enough." Thanks for the video.

@pedroclaro7822 Год назад

They're trying to get out into the market, but trangia has a monopoly on it. It's hard to compete with time tested stuff, even if you do have a better product.

@palbal 3 года назад

Greetings from Norway. Hope everybody is safe. I really love the topical video series about the Trangia and it's competition. But not for the Trangia&Co relevance, at least here in Norway, but more for nostalgic reasons. Me, like many others, grew up with the Trangia burner and it's full set of stand, windscreen, kettles and so forth. Brings back good memories. However, I don't know anyone that use the burner or the complete set anymore. For myself, I think the last time I used it on a hike was in the late 90s. Funny story, on a winter hike together with a buddy ("alternative" guy, ha ha ha) in 2007, I used the Primus Omnifuel to cook some food. He got kinda angry, and complained about the loud noise from the Omnifuel burner. He said: "Next time HE will bring a more suitable stove. Sure enough, the last time I saw the Trangia in use was on another winter hike with him, the year after. I remember I was surprised to see the Trangia burner, and got him angry again by calling it a "fossil". Nevertheless, is was quiet, brought indeed back memories, but man, it took forever to cock food:-).

@Funkteon 3 года назад

It takes about 50% longer than a gas burner to heat up a thicker frying pan to cook meat such as fish or spam... When you're out hiking, you shouldn't be in any kind of rush to cook food, even if you're super hungry at the end of the day..

@palbal 3 года назад

@@Funkteon Agree. However, at least in the conditions we have up here, for me it's important to heat up the food faster and burn more efficient for warmth in the winter.

@MADHIKER777 Год назад

Phenomenal stove when comparing boil time to total time. Should boil with just over 1/2 ounce under your test conditions. I ordered this stove with the EDDY-X wind screen stand which makes this as efficient, even in windy conditions and makes the stove more stable! All still fits inside pot. My new go-to stove! Thanks for the video!

@TrailandBackAgain 3 года назад

Great comparison. Perfect info. I just tried a bunch of alcohol stoves and landed on the trangia since I can bring all the fuel I need for a few days right in the stove. But this new stove looks like a great option! 🏕🤙

@tullochgorum6323 3 года назад

I gave up on all this years ago - these stoves all seem over-engineered to me. I now simply use a small tin filled with ceramic wicking material. Very cheap. Very light. Nothing to go wrong. Stable and spill-proof. Easy to fire up - even in the cold. Fast boil. Is it slightly less efficient? I don't know because any difference would be too minor to bother about. My stove obsession has been laid to rest.

@neologian1783 9 месяцев назад

"any difference would be too minor to bother about"........BINGO.

@ericstoever9577 3 года назад

Thanks for the review and comparison! Looking forward to updates as you use the Steampunk.

3 года назад

Almost ordered it! But naah, the performance is practically the same. Thanks for testing!

@RPalo71 3 года назад

I like my Caldera Keg Can system. But I do enjoy watching your personal obsession with alcohol stoves.

@altstadt1527 3 года назад

Thanks for doing these great stove videos!

@russelllieser4226 3 года назад

Great video. Cool pot stand. Thanks love the videos.

@pedroclaro7822 Год назад

Re-released with a new pot stand called the fireside instead of thst gear. Protects more from wind and doesn’t have these problems. Lighter, Burns hotter and longer, boils faster, more efficiently, transfers heat more evenly to the pots. Blue flame means complete combustion so it imparts less soot onto pots. All minor but significant advantages. I'm ordering one, for 22€ it's not bad.

@perrycoate5016 Год назад

I noticed the fireside pot stand/wind screen is now offered as an option to the gear version. So, I ordered one as well. It's currently on sale for $23 USD. I'm updating this message to say I received the stove and fireside pot stand/wind screen. I've done maybe a dozen boils. It is a little faster and more efficient than the Trangia. Very pleased with both the burner and pot stand.

@peterhuggins9267 3 года назад

This is a great review. I love my Trangia, and am always looking for a new pot stand for her.

@russrath3 3 года назад

"You may not be aware, I have an entire playlist on stoves" lol I never would have guessed. 😁😁 Just teasing. Love your videos.

@james_lessick892 3 года назад

Thank you for this video. I have a trangia knockoff and really like it, so I ordered the real thing along with a Firebox Stove and oven kit. I am waiting on the order with great anticipation. You Sir are truly Outstanding, please don't stop.

@cj_m2477 3 года назад

You could probably quickly smooth out edges of the pot stand with a Dremel or even a file or some sand paper. Interesting stove.

@bazza1carter 3 года назад

Why? You wouldn't expect a car you buy isn't unpainted. Or ice cream that wasn't frozen...

@martink9785 3 года назад

@@bazza1carter well, Warbonnet sell tarps that need the pullouts seam sealed. But then that's already known at the point of sale

@patriceb26 3 года назад

Bonsoir so which one is the best ?

@quinntheeskimooutdoors6234 3 года назад

Nice stove. Thanks for showing us.

@larryl4881 3 года назад

Very cool, thanks for the vid

@BrianRonald 3 года назад

It's gos-hawk, rather than go-shawk - it's named after a bird.

@a3a14613 2 года назад

Thank you! That was irritating.

@bazza1carter 3 года назад

Glad you mentioned the simmer ring issue. As I've mentioned before :)

@mistert800 3 года назад

There's a compact camping gas adapter from Go System that fits the Trangia, such a game changer. I stopped bothering with alcohol once I got one of those. Sure you have to carry an extra small gas bottle (vs your alcohol bottle), but the convenience, power and control more than make up for that.

@GARYMANDIEVAN 3 года назад

Very nice Stove , great review

@goofsaddggkle7351 3 года назад

Cool - nice to see a competitor in the market

@avantgardenproductionSwe 2 года назад

I don't think I would stop using my Trangia stove because I grew up with it and it's from Sweden. 😁🇸🇪 And I need something that can handle the cold. I have 2 Trangia winter kit and im looking forward to go snowboarding and have a good cup of coffee on the mountain top this winter.

@thenextarcher 3 года назад

I like the look of it.

@dannynimmo3052 3 года назад

I like it! well if anyone was going to find it, you would be the one to do it. I've just kind of lost interest in alcohol stoves lately, but I'm gonna grab one of these sweet little babies to play with. Thank you for the great videos :)

@RickMunday Год назад

I ordered one today for S&G. My main Trangia is 37 years old. I dinked around with plenty of other stoves over the years, including ones I made, always ended up back with the Trangia.

@Kenbur 3 года назад

Hey Ernie - guess where I am in Arkansas today while I watch this video!!! Very nice place - thanks for showing it off. Price point on the stove for me. As has been said - other than the 'cool' factor - not worth the cost if doesn't exceed the competition. Just my two cents. But having said that - it does have the "cool" factor👍

@carlaubrey3044 3 года назад

3 x The price...... Keep it Simple... I love Trangia ! ! ! No contest for a few seconds

@chrisrynn1 Год назад

Not for a few seconds, For a clean blue flame. No soot.

@richiewynne58 3 года назад

I Wish Trangia would bring out an exact copy in titanium. I woulder if you widened the jet holes on a Trangia to get a better boil time 🤔

@brianbartulis9709 3 года назад

Maybe plug every other one, then enlarge the others? There's cloth inside a Trangia for it's "capillary?" action. The Steamer tubes action seem a bit like a Coleman lantern without pressure. ..but as the tubes heat, it works. Maybe a question for folks who've made a few soda can spirit burners?

@thelifeofjools8384 3 года назад

Totally !! There must be thousands of people wanting the Trangia...just lighter.

@AndrewOliverHome 3 года назад

Trangia have said they don’t believe that titanium or aluminium work as well as brass for the stove. They have been making them for decades and they obviously have a lot of experience with both aluminium and titanium. If you like the Trangia, the brass is an important part of the performance and efficiency. If you want a lighter version, Evernew and Lixada can provide that. Neither are a perfect replacement, they are both lighter, the Evernew is hotter and boils faster but uses more fuel and doesn’t have a simmer ring or a screw top. The Lixada is very well priced but it doesn’t bloom quickly and it’s nothing like as good in cold weather. There are many things going on with the brass body and the tiny, unnoticeable features of the Trangia that make it superior.

@thelifeofjools8384 3 года назад

@@AndrewOliverHome Thanks...yeah I've looked at all the burners you mentioned and agree on all points. I didn't realise that brass was chosen for its specific properties though. That'll give me some consolation when the pack starts feeling heavy :) Thanks for the informative reply...cheers 👍

@gcwils 3 года назад

I'm @@brianbartulis9709

@joesmith4222 3 года назад

I bought a stainless steel knock off last year on amazon for $15 and spent an hour stuffing it with cotton thru those tiny holes with a paperclip. Did several time test and got 7 1/2 min. No cap, but has a cross pot stand that you can flip. It all fits perfect in a chicken can for a wind screen.

@buckshot4428 3 года назад

I have been using the Trangia for over a decade and never had a problem. I have tried different burners over the years, but I always went back to the Trangia. I see no reason to change given the similar results.

@Badger77722 3 года назад

Nice review, thanks for showing us that new piece of equipment! Besides the problems with the sharp edges on the stand, I'm curious to know what's the smallest size container you could use with it? The stand's support legs look fairly far apart. For instance could a Stanley Adventure Camp Cookset pot be used, or would the legs be too far apart to support it? Could you use a standard 500 ml cup? The flame pattern might solve the problem with using the Stanley with the Trangia, which is that a lot of the flames go up around the sides of the pot instead of staying underneath it. With the extra price and shipping charges, I think I'll have to stick with my Trangia for now, but it's definitely something I'll keep in the back of my mind.

@sandymaxwell5565 3 года назад

Ernie, Ernie, it's Gos-Hawk mate. Aussie bird of prey

@alf3553 3 года назад

Not enough of a time difference to make me switch. I use the simmer ring all the time so I’m curious how that thing would work with the simmer ring set about 1/2 “ open. But I’ve also had cracks in both of my Trangia burners, one is in the cap & the burner on the second one. So I’m going to switch things around to have one good Trangia 🔥I can keep fuel in & one dry until needed.

@TaivalOutdoors 3 года назад

You should test Evernew Titanium stove. It's 1/3 of the weight and has a bit different burn pattern.

@GeorgeHaskas 3 года назад

The aluminium version of the goshawk burns hotter but goes through the alcohol. The copper and brass goshawk is also a great product.

@theirishoutdoorcook1207 2 года назад

It’s looks nice. I see a future problem with the soldering bits coming apart and also I can see buildup on inside copper piping.

@SeniorHiker77 3 года назад

Yes pot stand needs a little sanding. Nice review. 👍

@Beaches_south_of_L.A. 3 года назад

I like all your videos. Always a cool intro. You are getting gray whiskers. Join the club. Ha!

@SteveD12 3 года назад

I say it on your channel only-I love watching water boil 😂

@wlstump 3 года назад

Interesting Doc. I wonder if it does a little better in wind? Thats my real bane with alcohol stoves here in Wyoming

@stellanstellan8708 3 года назад

Funny how a few grams could make it a possible deal breaker. Even if going superlight there are so many other factors to deal with so it won´t matter in the end. We are not even talking 100 grams or so. It is often said that the only aircraft you can replace a DC-3 with, is another DC-3. So far I feel this is the case with the Tangia burner.

@bhenry5091 3 года назад

Although I tend to favour the MSR white gas stoves fo rmost applications, I do use my Trangia for light solo hikes or flying my gear in a plane. I'm glad you mentioned the simmering ring, as this is an important accessory on my Trangia. I believe that shielding is very important for fuel efficiency, and I now use a folding wood burning mini stove as a stand/enclosure for my Trangia. The Trangia fits right into the interior hole. Would love for you to compare the simmering of the two. Cheers, Brent

@rcireland Год назад

Which mini stove do you use with your Trangia?

@tedsamuels3203 3 года назад

I think, I will keep my trangia....this is was an awesome video THANK YOU

@PaleoHikerMD 3 года назад

Agreed here...but it's a cool burner!

@martink9785 3 года назад

Interesting, I'd say a collector's piece. Disregarding the stands sharpness, it looked unstable. Cool stove to have 🙂 thanks

@georgesheffield1580 Год назад

I have an old similar stove from Russia / soviet union . It has an absorbing lining like a Origo but closer to an Trangia size and a litter heaver brass . Non spill ,better in cold , almost an hour burn , no flame control / suffer. Also have an Origo ,big ,long burn ( quart and a half of fuel ). Use MSR XGK for cold weather .

@grahamblackall6305 3 года назад

Hi Ernie How sturdy is the stove? Are the syphon well attached, if they are just soldered in a small patch, can they fracture if itnget bumped in a bag? Thanks Take care Graham

@RodneyClang 3 года назад

Guessing it wouldn’t work well with the storm cooking kit from Trangia based on the concentration of flame, right?

@ssos4540 3 года назад

So have you tried the burner in the Nano? If so how did it work?

@valentinungureanu6059 3 года назад

Hi. Can be used with trangia pot stand ?

@markraciborski4289 4 месяца назад

Old post, will this fit a Firefox Stove Nano? Hang on those metal sticks?

@Littletass 3 года назад

you mentioned that it doesnt have insulation in contrast to the trangia. Do you think that will negatively effect its performance in cold temperatures?

@MrFmiller 3 года назад

I kind of like the stand. If the stand had rounded edges it would be less apt to cause damage. Having said that I always carry everything inside a pot anyway. I have a Docooler two section Solo stove knockoff so it’s a moot point. As far as efficiency I have the Solo burner that you have shown to be marginally less efficient than the Trangia. I may try to make a copper tube insert to simulate the spiral action of the Goshawk, maybe with three legs just to see if it improves boil time. It may decrease total burn time though. I usually cap the flame after boil anyway so that might not be a problem. The other issue might be fuel consumption. It’s worth a try.

@MercutioUK2006 2 года назад

I don't have a Trangia so I did in fact order this........will be arriving soon I hope.

@korling99 3 года назад

Please test some of their other products. Shipping is quite high, but I think I’ll order one. That aluminum ultralight mini trangia looks interesting too.

@PaleoHikerMD 3 года назад

I'm checking out other items for sure, we shall see!

@Haerleif 3 года назад

The concentrated flames would boil water in small container, like you use, faster than a trangia but the trangia would boil a bigger(wider, like a kettle) container faster as its flame would reach a bigger surface?

@armadilllo Год назад

Do these work in the wind?

@ZbigniewPomianowski Год назад

Any plans to test goshawk babylon?

@mikefule330 Год назад

In many ways, the specific Trangia burner is the least important aspect of the design. There are many almost direct copies and a few with supposed improvements. They all convert fuel into heat, and the amount of energy in the fuel is the same whichever burner you use. Some burn it a bit more efficiently, som a bit less. The two important things with the genuine Trangia are known quality (brass burner, with a wick), and the completely integrated system with the stable base and the windshield that stores away with two pots, a handle, a kettle and a frying pan/lid. Maybe this particular burner is quicker - for those times when you need to relax on your day off as quickly as possible - but without the fully integrated system, it is only half the product. The Trangia set up is ideal for car, motorbike or boat camping, less so for hiking. However, the Trangia Mini caters for the lighter traveller.

@jimf1964 3 года назад

So just a comment on your methodology. It appears that the stand is low for the optimum height for a Trangia. Which means you're comparing optimum, vs sub optimum. Also, the only reason I decided to go with alcohol stoves for real and not just play around with them was how the Trangia just gets angry when it's windy, where the other ones I used blow out. So how is this one in the wind?

@arctodussimus6198 3 года назад

Not a bad piece of kit, but I am wondering how long it will take before those little pipes come loose...

@SilvaDreams 3 года назад

You'll likely break the container it is in before they weld gave out.

@patriceb26 3 года назад

bonjour, so which one is the best ? please

@cindynichols27 3 года назад

Would this fit into the Trangia full windshield system? Also the Firebox Nano?

@paradyne1T101 3 года назад

It also would fit the Emberlite Fireant

@iliveinthewoods 2 года назад

The tubes inside; Are they a reliability risk, compared to the Trangia? Could they be broken, loosen, or bend?

@tutorialz 3 года назад

Would be cool to see a top 10 video of alcohol stoves....

@drytool 3 года назад

Might you be looking at the Goshawk Eddy-200?

@calvinmonroe2408 2 года назад

So how much faster is a mighty mo type burner than a trangia spirit burner?

@debrasolimine497 3 года назад

Great review, I dont have an alcohol stove yet but I'm planning on buying one soon. What type of alcohol fuel do you use? I have heard there are many different options

@craigbetts1586 3 года назад

I believe he uses denatured alcohol which is very hard to find where I live (Canada) so I've been using Methyl hydrate for years (cheap and clean burning)

@mackd7141 3 года назад

Heet in yellow Bottle is most common but there are videos with 5 or so different other alcohols

@craigbetts1586 3 года назад

@@mackd7141 yes that's another good choice just make sure it's the yellow bottle not the red one

@RaycrowX 3 года назад

Paleo has another video on just that! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Y0eQPbTc9AM.html

@canopus101 3 года назад

Interesting but not convincing enough to replace my Trangia. I use the Trangia as a backup to my wood burning 'Firebox' stove, which is purpose built to accommodate a Trangia. I wonder if the Steampunk fits as well?

@Sokol10 2 года назад

They have a aluminum version of this stove, with a less "steampunk" style pot stand - called EDDY-Y, a bit more cheap. And a pot stand called EDDY-502 "Babylon" in what the simmer ring is adjusted in height pushing a "joystick". Curious, this stove internals reminder Tetkoba's DIY models.

@chrisrynn1 Год назад

More interesting to me than the time taken to boil, is the fact that the flame stayed blue the entire time, meaning no soot... right? I'm using a trangia every day at the moment, with bioethanol. UK energy prices just doubled, and bioethanol is dirt cheap. I'm sick to death of cleaning soot off the bottom of the pans. It gets on every damn thing.

@starlingblack814 3 года назад

Maybe a little more fragile with all those extra welds; I still like the Trangia especially with $12.00 shipping cost for the Steampunk. Thanks again Dr. Ernie for an informative video.

@danielcharbonneau222 3 года назад

As they say, The grass is not always greener on the other side, just a little more appealing only at first sight! LOL.

@geektarded 2 года назад

What lighter are you using in these videos? p.s. I showed my wife your videos to explain why I “needed” so many stoves ;)

@angiefav1847 2 года назад

Mmmmm l have one of these but l recently brought a trangia 27 cook kit there is nothing g better, these trangia kits are fantastic plus one can buy any part if you happen to damage it anywhere very hard to beat

@medusaman1 2 месяца назад

I'm not sure which kind of flame is better, the central concentrated one or the one that spreads out. I would rather choose some spreading out of the flame because if you use it with a frying pan, the heat will distribute on a larger area of the pan and food will cook better. A central concentrated flame works better under a small area such as the base of a small mug.

@morayjames92 3 года назад

the copper tubes are held together with what looks like JB Weld and that will not stand up to the heat over the long haul, small gage stainless steel wire would be a better option but will add some weight. no way to know it they used a wick in those copper tubes either but when yours comes apart you can tell us and if not drag a cotton string through each tube to help draw more fuel up to the burner hole.

@vernreed1969 Год назад

I saw this today, clicked the link to check the price. It's on sale for $23. But, shipping is $14. I'll just keep the Trangia, thanks.

@michaelbrohl1625 10 месяцев назад

I know this video is two years old but I wanted to mention that I bought a steampunk recently and it makes a great flame but it also leaks like crazy (at least the one they sent me does). So you can use it as a nice burner but I definitely cannot store or leave any fuel in it. Anybody else have this problem ?

@cherylkite1869 2 года назад

Hi I'm Australian and the burner is called a gos hawk it's a bird in Australia

@MrFowl 3 года назад

You should try the Ikea Hobo Stove (super cheap/light wood burning stove)

@brianbartulis9709 3 года назад

My eyes rolled when you pulled out that pot stand. Crikey, it's like a throwing star for camp equipment. Are ya sure it's not an ice chopper? (-: yeah, my Trangia got back ordered. I'll have to try and play with that flame/burner distance from da pot. Flames wrapping up the side bugs me, same as soot. I've seen the Steampunk's design for the adj before. Is this new for them and they have one same as the Trangia? I've never seen inside a SP before.

@brianbartulis9709 3 года назад

Also I was wondering how each work at 5° off level. Perhaps nothing, and if so not 'til near end of fuel; and/or, I hear one isn't supposed to let a Trangia run to zero flame.

@C.Earl77 3 года назад

I like it for the cool factor, but IMHO you just can't beat the battle tested Trangia burner.

@theoriginalrabbithole Год назад

In the interest of being relevant to what the rest of us actually do in future vlogs? Could you please just test ALL alcohol stoves in a Firebox Ultralight Titanium Nano G2 Stove? You DO already have one after all. 😉Nobody's using either of the two shoddy stands the Goshawk comes with as they have another 'Country Fair' stand option that sux equally but we are VERY interested in a better burner as a cooking-system component, so why not test them on the stove we all actually pack and carry? The Firebox. It is the best stove by a huge margin in every way. Great video, btw. *Liked& Subscribed

@sebastianforbes1 3 года назад

it might have consideration as a 1st time purchase but, we all only need one alcohol stove and I'm guessing, most probably, most of us already have one - so who needs a 2nd one just to save a few seconds or a few grams ?

@plproductions8887 2 года назад

Did this replace your trangia should I get it over the trangia just starting out and don’t have a stove system

@mofun01 3 года назад

Just like most MD's, wanna promotet heir MD-ness and then do stupid stuff. For instance, It's probably Gos(z)hawk, the bird, not Go Shawk, RME. Just look at the logo. What's more tragic is you wanna tout Paleo and some connection with the earth thru hiking, which I love both, and you then failed to identify the wildlife connection. Also, the price for this new contender is way out of line. Could buy 3 Trangias and have them in various bags or vehicles. I'm not usually so negative, but you stepped into my arena. So, What fuel were you using? All those minor details aside, thank you for testing all these stoves, well done. This video was well shot, narrated, and edited. The experiment was expertly conducted.