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THRASH METAL THEN VS. NOW feat.  

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To represent old school thrash metal in this special installment of the Then vs. Now series, I am joined by the riff battle legend himself TheSuffocater! Defined by fast, aggressive rhythms, chunky guitar grooves, and yelled vocals, thrash metal started as a niche subgenre and eventually rose to mainstream popularity with the help of bands like Metallica and Megadeth. Now, modern thrash metal bands have 40 years of history to draw from - do they stand on shoulders of giants and push the genre forward, or are the best riffs from the past? You be the judge and let us know in the comments!
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@TheSuffocater
@TheSuffocater 11 месяцев назад
Hey Thomas ! Thanks again for having me as the "old-school-guy". You pulled out some killer riffs !!
@ThomasHogue
@ThomasHogue 11 месяцев назад
My pleasure to collab with one of my RU-vid inspirations! Great riffing 🤘
@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power
@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power 11 месяцев назад
This is a much better project with two players....maybe then vs. now should be a collab thing going forward.
@ThomasHogue
@ThomasHogue 11 месяцев назад
Noted! Maybe that can be arranged
@dartawnasailo4449
@dartawnasailo4449 11 месяцев назад
Older thrash is way better 🤘🤘🤘
@geoffreyverhoeven1675
@geoffreyverhoeven1675 11 месяцев назад
I find a strong Heavy Metal and Punk influence in old school Thrash, a certain Nu-metal and Metalcore influence in new school Thrash.
@Sammael757
@Sammael757 11 месяцев назад
So true. It has noticeably evolved over the years, becoming more technical in some ways as well. I love both, by my heart will always be stuck in the punk-influenced thrash of the 80s when it comes to my playing style. 😁
@yobrethren
@yobrethren 11 месяцев назад
Yeah, Thrash i know better than the new school is more inspired by heavy metal and hardcore It has that certain swing feel almost, and another part is actually hearing just about every switch from one chord/note to the next. Even full out bands like Slayer and Exodus and Sodom have actually ear-aching tones, but the players are actually super talented being able to not allow so much dirt in their frantic playing The only real newer thrash i listen is Hatchet (and Havok and Hexen, but they disbanded, sadly), and they have that new edge with less "standard" riffs, but still keep that old school vibe. Either way! THRASH4EVER
@Natenie
@Natenie 7 месяцев назад
Groove Metal changed everything man
@mediumvillain
@mediumvillain 6 месяцев назад
Theres still some hardcore influence & death metal influence is also pretty common. In a lot of the older stuff you can definitely hear where nu-metal & metalcore were influenced. Metalcore was so heavily influenced by thrash to begin with. Most of those 00s bands made thrash riffs mixed with more explicit metallic hardcore & often different combinations of pop-punk/emo/screamo/post-hardcore (and then some of them fucked it all up with emo/butt rock style vocals). God Forbid was my favorite metalcore and they were also like NWoAHM thrash. Bit different now as theres a lot of metalcore inspired by metalcore, and Meshuggah, often Tool, and nu-metal influence is almost omnipresent. I could be wrong but if I had to guess, the bands making thrash today are probably not the ones who were big metalcore scene kids, they were prolly the metal nerds listening to punk/hardcore/crossover, old school thrash & death, groove metal and probably nu-metal. Crossover thrash vs. metalcore would be a fun comparison.
@dantredogborsa7048
@dantredogborsa7048 11 месяцев назад
Everybody gangsta until Sepultura "Arise"
@Landekar
@Landekar 5 месяцев назад
Being immediately destroyed by Sylosis afterwards.
@dantredogborsa7048
@dantredogborsa7048 5 месяцев назад
@@Landekar 😂😂😂 you're funny, you make good jokes 👍🏻👍🏻
@viniciusamorim237
@viniciusamorim237 3 месяца назад
​@@Landekar You really funny 😂😂😂
@andersfrederiksen7202
@andersfrederiksen7202 14 дней назад
@@Landekar both is great
@marquisdecarabas1312
@marquisdecarabas1312 11 месяцев назад
I stay with Old School...but thats maybe because of my age...they are both great but the old school vibes give me something special that goes deeper 🤘
@Suddsy.
@Suddsy. 11 месяцев назад
I agree. I love the riffs from both but thrash still has a groove and old school thrash to me has a better groove
@Landekar
@Landekar 5 месяцев назад
They sound old though, the time's taking its toll on them clearly. New sound has this feeling of freshness brought by new techniques and tuning. It's like there's more air.
@crankitup1030
@crankitup1030 11 месяцев назад
TheSuffocater's expression when he finished the Slayer riff. *mic drop | you been served*
@vandersonjunior8018
@vandersonjunior8018 11 месяцев назад
I dont know how to express how much i love Sylosis They have the heaviness of Modern Metal mixed with some awesome thrashy riffs Im going to give a listen to Nervosa too, that was dope
@RoRo-vr6wx
@RoRo-vr6wx 11 месяцев назад
Check out traitor from Germany
@attilio3550
@attilio3550 11 месяцев назад
Arise! That is some great shit right there. I love the technique on the new stuff. But the old just has some soul to it that can't be beat.
@bryanterrill7674
@bryanterrill7674 11 месяцев назад
That deathwestern was awesome never heard of that before
@xangrycatmanx5104
@xangrycatmanx5104 11 месяцев назад
Spiritworld are so good, they blend thrash with 90's metalcore/hardcore like Integrity, Ringworm and Arkangel
@DonnyZofChaos
@DonnyZofChaos 11 месяцев назад
For those interested Old School Megadeth - Tornado Of Souls Kreator - Pleasure to Kill Holy Moses - Near Dark Slayer - Necrophiliac Anthrax - Indians Sodom - Nuclear Winter Sepultura - Arise New School Enforced - Avarice Hellripper - The Nuckelavee Evile - Sleepless Eyes Spiritworld - Deathwestern Nervosa - Suffocare Crisix - The Many Licit Paths Syslosis - A Sign of Things to Come
@MattCanev419
@MattCanev419 11 месяцев назад
This channel, the concepts and the music are all stellar!!🔥🤘💯
@therewasascene
@therewasascene 11 месяцев назад
Having a guest was super cool! And great picks as always Sylosis 🤘🏼🤘🏼
@ianearl1554
@ianearl1554 11 месяцев назад
Enforced = favorite thrash band
@antoinelebellec157
@antoinelebellec157 11 месяцев назад
Awesome...even if I'm 43 and I'm definitively old schooled...and I think your playlist needed some Tankard...great job however...
@midomidomid
@midomidomid 11 месяцев назад
This was really fun to watch! Now I have to learn some of these sick riffs.
@aglees2b
@aglees2b 11 месяцев назад
That was sick. Thanks for the modern pointers, and some throw back catch-up
@deathnecrobutcher3215
@deathnecrobutcher3215 11 месяцев назад
The only win riff in modern thrash is the one from hellripper anyway, i love this kind of content keep this going hoping for part 2!
@ThomasHogue
@ThomasHogue 11 месяцев назад
Thanks! It doesn’t feature the suffocater, but I do have another thrash metal then vs. now video out from last year 😁
@orangejews150
@orangejews150 11 месяцев назад
And sylosis
@CalebHimself
@CalebHimself 11 месяцев назад
Love checking out the bands from these videos. That Sylosis riff at the end is so sick! 🤘🔥
@mythicsnugglebug1490
@mythicsnugglebug1490 11 месяцев назад
This was a fun watch, the difference is obvious but both are still great on their own. Long live metal!
@silviosandoval9020
@silviosandoval9020 11 месяцев назад
Espectacular crossover!!! . Son los dos que sigo siempre , uno para escuchar lo nuevo y el otro para recordar por qué me gusta el metal. Muchas gracias!!! 😎🤘🏾
@XPressButton
@XPressButton 11 месяцев назад
Damn didnt expect hellripper here.. nice stuff! great work
@lucabucciarelli8182
@lucabucciarelli8182 11 месяцев назад
Im not a big thrash metal fan but you guys just killed it 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
@ConnorJaneu
@ConnorJaneu 11 месяцев назад
Love seeing some Spiritworld!
@sangramos
@sangramos 11 месяцев назад
Holy fuck I love holy Moses! Who knew the German was gonna bring the heat with the German thrash bands!
@Tyelkormoko
@Tyelkormoko 11 месяцев назад
What an amazing collaboration and thoughtful comparison, I loved the thematics and you guys are fantastic! Would love to see more, going right to the old vs new school video!
@mikeydubs_tv
@mikeydubs_tv 11 месяцев назад
Damn, the old school riffs are so much better its not even close. Other than HellRipper!
@sweetypuss
@sweetypuss 11 месяцев назад
i had the pleasure of seeing enforced live in 2022, they absolutely fucked ripped. their riffing is so slayer inspired, it's great
@ronnierazor4302
@ronnierazor4302 11 месяцев назад
Old school all day long and all night long... F*ck, I'm getting old
@andreaktenakis
@andreaktenakis 11 месяцев назад
Nice, putting Hellripper in there.
@ernestoruiz133
@ernestoruiz133 11 месяцев назад
this is epic.... yeah ! I need this vs in every metal genre...
@Mattwarszawa
@Mattwarszawa 7 месяцев назад
DAMN! the guy do it near dark by holy moses respect.
@ramon2008
@ramon2008 11 месяцев назад
Shark fin inlays on that orange jackson look dope af
@alexlitvin1297
@alexlitvin1297 2 месяца назад
That good old Sepultura was the best thrash metal band I have ever listened to
@Behdad47
@Behdad47 11 месяцев назад
The collab we've all been waiting for.
@pertrons
@pertrons 11 месяцев назад
Hell yeah! Tight AF playing. These videos are great for discovering new bands 🤘
@kristianperezmcdougall1641
@kristianperezmcdougall1641 11 месяцев назад
So, technicslly this is a conversation between a grandpa and his grandson. To me this means its not a competition but a great historical dialogue❤
@MatthiasBuesing
@MatthiasBuesing 11 месяцев назад
Great comparison video and special thanks for having that much german thrash in it! 🇩🇪🤘🏻
@andrewcoates4952
@andrewcoates4952 11 месяцев назад
Fuck yeah, absolutely live for these. You’ve introduced me to so much new music in a genre I adore that I cannot thank you enough
@ScottNelles
@ScottNelles 11 месяцев назад
Great video! Glad to see Crisix made it into the compilation.
@djay6651
@djay6651 11 месяцев назад
The newer stuff definitely has it's metal core and djent influences.
@mohtmusic
@mohtmusic 11 месяцев назад
Old school wins by far though the last riff of the future seems to scratch the each. 😎🤘🤘🤘 Most excellent video. 👈
@rockriverash3120
@rockriverash3120 11 месяцев назад
Nice!! It's all good, but I grew up, started listening to metal in the 80's, so I definitely have to go with "then". 🤘🎸🥁🎶🙏
@robboreacts
@robboreacts 11 месяцев назад
Great vid & collab guys! Props for including Spiritworld
@regor5150
@regor5150 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for introducing me to Hellripper!!! I'ma go check them out RIGHT NOW!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
@rosihanmx
@rosihanmx 11 месяцев назад
Nuclear Winter 🔥
@jiesus2596
@jiesus2596 11 месяцев назад
WOOOOH WHAT A COLLAB!!!!!
@woodward_alan
@woodward_alan 11 месяцев назад
We have modern thrash bands? Where have I been?
@Neo-Midgar
@Neo-Midgar 11 месяцев назад
Thrash has been back for nearly 20 years now. All the old guard back to making bangers and young bands popping up all over the place.
@woodward_alan
@woodward_alan 11 месяцев назад
Wow I'm stuck on what I remember from 90s. Will check out all those bands.
@Neo-Midgar
@Neo-Midgar 11 месяцев назад
@@woodward_alan Here's a good list to get you started: Evile Havok Warbringer Power Trip Lich King Gama Bomb Bonded By Blood
@woodward_alan
@woodward_alan 11 месяцев назад
​@@Neo-Midgaryes! Thanks
@Eirik36
@Eirik36 11 месяцев назад
Bro check out the last two albums by Warbringer
@minddecayproductions
@minddecayproductions 11 месяцев назад
Enforced rules!
@zakk219
@zakk219 8 месяцев назад
As a fan of punk and hardcore, I tend to gravitate toward the older stuff as you can see that it is really influenced by that stuff but some newer stuff is still cool. I still prefer stuff like Power Trip (RIP Riley) who were obviously more influenced by the hardcore stuff if I'm gonna listen to newer thrash.
@metal_axxe
@metal_axxe 10 месяцев назад
Old school 🤘🔥
@philsantacruz5654
@philsantacruz5654 2 месяца назад
Thrash will always rule 🔥🔥🔥
@kevinainscough6839
@kevinainscough6839 11 месяцев назад
This is a great channel. I even appreciate the looks you give each other like " is that al you got" great stuff and riffs, and like the different guitars on your channel
@Sadion666
@Sadion666 11 месяцев назад
I'd add The Way is Narrow by Iron Age (even though that song isn't really new) and For the Horde by Exmortus, love that super fast technical intro riff.
@rogeliohernandez8698
@rogeliohernandez8698 11 месяцев назад
Great collab and nice riffs! 🤘
@nnslg
@nnslg 11 месяцев назад
Under a pale grey sky we shall ARISE!
@williammansfield686
@williammansfield686 11 месяцев назад
I recently discovered Enforced and am really digging some of their stuff!
@paulosergiojunior9352
@paulosergiojunior9352 11 месяцев назад
Arise porraaa!!! Wow!!!
@ozi76
@ozi76 11 месяцев назад
Some great picks there.
@Sagittarius16
@Sagittarius16 11 месяцев назад
THEN the Best🎉
@markovisic7244
@markovisic7244 11 месяцев назад
Dude and Power Trip, Lamb of God, Overkill, Testament, Exodus, Assassin,etc...etc...?
@portuguesebeer5069
@portuguesebeer5069 11 месяцев назад
I fuckin' prefer the "then', but now is cool too. Very cool Jackson v. Is that the kvxmg? Cheers from Portugal 🤘🍺🇵🇹
@danielrodriguez2209
@danielrodriguez2209 11 месяцев назад
I loved the crisix one, it was dope, gonna listen to them after watching this vid.
@CopterPirates
@CopterPirates 11 месяцев назад
WHY NOT BOTH? Killer picks and playing from both of you, as always.
@greedcliffchannel2419
@greedcliffchannel2419 11 месяцев назад
The newer thrash has sick tone man! Which amp did you use to achieve that?
@AD1978leo
@AD1978leo 11 месяцев назад
Old, New? I just hear a lot of kickass riffs.
@WreckInSilenceRecords
@WreckInSilenceRecords 11 месяцев назад
Great video!!! But I'm sorry, but i'm not sure if i hear much of a difference style wise? It all sounds sick but i'm not sure i would be able to differentiate...
@HakanKoseoglu
@HakanKoseoglu 11 месяцев назад
Most of the 90s stuff required two functioning fingers at the fret. I know, I was there, I played stuff. I still like it.
@NATE1717BALLIN
@NATE1717BALLIN 11 месяцев назад
Yeah spiritworld is underrated
@BobbyPVZ
@BobbyPVZ 11 месяцев назад
Ahahaa awsome!! 🇵🇹🇵🇹 2 great content creators
@demianseale501
@demianseale501 11 месяцев назад
Enjoy the concept. Find it to be a bizarre choice of riffs though, especially from yesteryear. I guess you are going for obscure stuff.
@lucaslaufranio3585
@lucaslaufranio3585 11 месяцев назад
I'm a simple man i hear sylosis,i like
@bogart6648
@bogart6648 11 месяцев назад
then much better, now is too cute.
@egioch
@egioch 11 месяцев назад
Very nice, need to check out this modern stuff.
@Enzolucciano
@Enzolucciano 11 месяцев назад
enforced papa!
@TheSequelWasBetter
@TheSequelWasBetter 11 месяцев назад
I love videos like this, because they instantly prove everyone living in the past who says that "there's no good music anymore" very wrong. There's plenty of good, modern metal out there; stop whining about the 1990s and go look for it.
@ramon2008
@ramon2008 11 месяцев назад
Anyone who says there’s no good music anymore is crazy. But…. People listening to this kind of music as a movement that is def lost. The communal aspect of all this is lost.
@Ziomaletto
@Ziomaletto 11 месяцев назад
>There's plenty of good, modern metal out there If only it didn't require wasting HOURS on end to dig through endless procession of trash filled to brim with Slayer worship and horrible vocals to find those few bands that are at least above average.
@xurxo12
@xurxo12 11 месяцев назад
2:18 - 2:52 KILLER TRACK BY @EVILE 🤘🏽🔥
@bridgetgidget1446
@bridgetgidget1446 11 месяцев назад
Old school rules!
@Dexter13th
@Dexter13th 11 месяцев назад
Hell yeah!
@romaincassignol
@romaincassignol 11 месяцев назад
Conclusion : old school Thrash Metal has better riffs (way more catchy, better written....). Thought, the two guitarists are excellent !!!
@SamBrockmann
@SamBrockmann 11 месяцев назад
I love me some Thrash.
@Baron_Von_Nachtfalke
@Baron_Von_Nachtfalke 11 месяцев назад
How about a Black Metal one?
@FaCePlaNt_4_YAHUSHA
@FaCePlaNt_4_YAHUSHA 11 месяцев назад
Wth I wasn't even subscribed.. well I know I am now.
@andypop334
@andypop334 11 месяцев назад
1:52 halloween theme ? ;)
@TheAlexandreBill
@TheAlexandreBill 11 месяцев назад
Nervosa!!!!
@broncoxy
@broncoxy 11 месяцев назад
Top 10 Anime Crossovers
@jonaseriksson7091
@jonaseriksson7091 Месяц назад
Old school is mutch better:)
@marcosjbs4391
@marcosjbs4391 11 месяцев назад
Two brazilian bands, Nervosa and Sepultura!
@CynHicks
@CynHicks 11 месяцев назад
Was Forbidden not Thrash? I heard at least one opportunity for them. There were others but...
@XxUliboneZxX
@XxUliboneZxX 9 месяцев назад
Tornado of souls automatically gave the dub to old school
@doblef3556
@doblef3556 11 месяцев назад
Nervosa is Death Metal... ABRAZOS
@sonjazilg1151
@sonjazilg1151 11 месяцев назад
🤩
@kakaroth80
@kakaroth80 11 месяцев назад
✅✅✅✅🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Metalhead051289
@Metalhead051289 11 месяцев назад
The "new thrash" doesn't sound like thrash at all🤣 doesn't mean it sounds bad, but for me, it's not thrash at all, I stick with old school without a doubt
@sweetypuss
@sweetypuss 10 месяцев назад
you've never actually listened to hellripper and enforced, have you? another metal boomer
@SkrabbyDabbyDoo
@SkrabbyDabbyDoo 11 месяцев назад
Old School songs so much better Then. The riffs a great on both though
@sweetypuss
@sweetypuss 10 месяцев назад
how much of that is down to nostalgia and rose-tinted glasses rather than the actual melodical and technical composition. you tend to like things you grew up with
@hiroshiwatari4620
@hiroshiwatari4620 11 месяцев назад
NOTHING TO SAY ACCEPT... *"ONE OF THE BEST COLLABORATION IN THE HISTORY OF THIS RU-vid CHANNEL"* AND THAT'S ALL!!!...🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🔥🔥🔥
@captain_green278
@captain_green278 11 месяцев назад
Damn you look like metal father and son
@rocknroller81
@rocknroller81 11 месяцев назад
All the riffs in this video are awesome, and it's a great way to discover new songs or go back to old classics. Still a lot of brilliant riffs and guitars parts in modern thrash! IMO what sets a thrash song and band apart from the others were and still are the vocals. I feel like we don't get enough today. There is a number of new bands with killer guitars and good, sometimes great singers. Check out Mindtaker, Insanity Alert, Void Vator, Gama Bomb, Angelus Apatrida, Drowning in Blood, Vingador, Colony Drop... Nonetheless I feel the majority are brought down by weak vocals and uninspiring melodies, which is a shame. I've listened to too many albums without a single memorable hook, just monotonous screams and growls, with bloated production, trying to hide the lack of an effective vocal line. It gets boring real fast.
@ИванЕрохин-о6ц
@ИванЕрохин-о6ц 11 месяцев назад
What’s up! I recently came across one Russian thrash band called DAREDEVIL and their song ДАЛЬШЕ БУДЕТ ТОЛЬКО ХУЖЕ. It sounds kinda old school stuff 😊
@ИванЕрохин-о6ц
@ИванЕрохин-о6ц 11 месяцев назад
I really recommend you to listen to it
@mateuszcegieka3874
@mateuszcegieka3874 4 месяца назад
Megadeth sounds much more modern, fresh, and smoother than any other band from a current stage. Also, the influence of black and death metal, of which I am not a fan, is very audible.
@MegaDuanra
@MegaDuanra 11 месяцев назад
Evile is an old band
@scotchandsquats
@scotchandsquats 11 месяцев назад
Love how it started with in my opinion the two greatest albums of the respected timelines - the best old school trash album being rust in peace and the best new thrash album being War Remains🤘
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