GROOVE METAL THEN VS. NOW 

I got an extra grey hair in my goatee when I saw Lamb of God in the ‘then’ section.

I’ve learned about a bunch of new songs and bands from these then vs now videos I otherwise probably wouldn’t have checked them out or heard about. So thanks for being my music plug.

To me it sounds like: Traditional Groove Metal vs. Progressive/Technical Groove Metal. I prefer classical stuff - heavy and catchy 🎸🤘

Can't we all just agree that groove metal has just stayed beautiful throughout its existence?

While both have nice riffs, the modern groove metal often loses the "groove" in favor of overly complicate guitar riffs and drums beats, which defeats the purpose sometimes of creating a groove. Most of that old school stuff was heavy and straight 4/4 time signatures you could bob your head to easily.

I definitely feel like the earlier stuff is groovier, the later stuff is just rhythmically complicated, which is not the same thing. That said, the Gojira riff was probably groovier than the Exhorder one that followed it. Go figure.

90's groove metal... Will always on 🔥

90s groove metal...was damn good

I really like more the old school Groove Metal, it had more bounce, riffs really make you wanna headbang

Thanks for throwing in Davidian!!!!!!🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻

Maybe because I am old man, but love the older stuff. Great playing and vid mate😁

Psycroptic is a bit more on the tech death side, but is super groovy. For those who like this style, I'd give them a shot!

Pissing Razors - Burning Bridges is a super groovy riff if no one's heard it before. I remember hearing it back in highschool and digging it.

Fear Factory - Replica - what a groove

Great list, playing and vid :) Malevolence also got some mad groove too btw

this is awesome my friend

Great playing! Those NJ Deluxe models really are something special. I own all 3 models and love them to death.

Yeah!!! finally my subgenre! Long live Groove Metal and all Metal. Amazing bands btw! I would love to have seen some other bands (Dagoba, Bury Your Dead, Throwdown, DamagePlan, Hellyeah - that 1rst album man!, Alien Weaponry, Byzantine, Hacride, Ektomorf, Lazarvs, Motograter). Thanks great video

These videos are just a fantastic concept. Production, choice everything is top notch

Not such a groove fan.... but some classics here with Dimebag and Machine Head and Fear Factory.. Super stuff Hogey 🎸👉

Great Mashup!! 🔥 🎸

Awesome clip, Thomas 😎🤘🏻🎸 I like groove metal as well as other genres of metal like heavy, thrash, doom, and industrial just to name a few. Plus I’m a huge fan of pantera, exhorder, and fear factory.

amazing as always.

The new groove just don't have that catchiness that the old skool style has lol

amazing tones holy

I love your videos so godamn much man

These picks are all amazing. Groove Metal is my favorite genre I'd say, so this video is made for someone like me. Loving the content

Exhorder❤

Bleed from within is so good dude

Amazing songs 🤘

As The Palaces Burn has some of my favorite riffs

Dudeee I love employed to serve 🤘

Aw man byzantine would have been an awesome one for this. Cool video, all great bands.

Tremendous add placement!! A Black Female hair product, ordering now!!

👏👏👏👏 well done 👍 good sir!

Somewhere we lost focus and stopped making riffs that were fun and memorable and just decided to see who could make the most complex riffs...its the "i can play faster than anyone else" thing all over again

Glad to see new DD in the list im sure MS appreciates it

i love Jinjer and Bleed from Within but didn't realize they were being classified as groove metal. either way, good video 🤘

nice tone

This is badass all the way around

Was like lamb of god in the then category??? Then realised that album is 20 years old, so now I feel old 😂

Love the discoveries to be had from this. Great vid and playing!

Big thanx! Great stuff! The only band I miss is PRONG. For me...they invented this style. And their new albums are also great!

Hey Thomas! love your videos! Was wondering if you are going to do sequal to that deathcore vid you did a while back. If so, a few suggestions are Shrine of Malice, Oceano and To The Grave.

As The Palaces Burn is in the "then" side? Wow I feel old. And praises to these twins, they got an awesome taste in music.

BAD ASS!

besides Devildriver and Jinjer,all the "modern" examples are Metalcore

nice 🤟groove

This is epic and excellent slaying, may I ask how you got such ab amazing guitar tone?

That BC Rich is way too cool.

I like the 'then' grooves better. You can nod your head to it, head bang, tap your foot etc. the 'now' riffs are to tech sounding, like just trying to play fast technical shit is the key component instead of playing what sounds good.

Old groove is king. Always, man

Pissing Razors, Invocator, Hellgarden, Sign of the Southern Cross: a few lesser known Groove Metal bands 🤘🏻🍻

That Upon A Burning Body tho 👀 shit was actually groovin

Groove the best🤘

I love bleed from within

Awesome to see Exhorder getting some recognition.

I feel like the modern groove bands are just way too concerned with writing "busy" riffs, rather than just writing a good one. The difference is apparent when you compare them.

2 bands I currently listen to that sound groovy to me and sort have picked up the Pantera sound are Wake Up Frankie, where some of their licks sound exactly like Dime and Upon A Burning Body, where much of their newer material over the past 5-7 years have taken on a more Pantera vibe.

Love bleed from within

Then FTW!

I was never too interested in this genre because I really just didn't like Pantera. But hearing all these other bands really opened my eyes to this genre.

Ginjer to Lamb of God transition is so fucking good

Lamb of god are the.... GOATS

I've got to agree with the majority here. The 90's Slayer, Pantera, & Machine Head riffs were true to the Funk and R & B rule of always accentuating the "1". Which goes all the way back to the James Brown days with Bootsy Collins. If you want to keep it in the "deep pocket", you know where to put your roots. And that's why 90's metal has that foot stomping (or head moshing) groove. Modern metal explores the concept of high math, poly-rythms & other advanced timing concepts because it's never been done before. But there's still some crossover. Even Gojira's Stranded grooves like hell. Whereas Megadeth's Ashes in your mouth has note phrasing much like the new stuff. But in the end, it's all Heavy Metal & it's still alive and well. Even if it's a niche genre today. I love both the old and new & it'll never fall out of fashion.

“Then” all the way!

Devil driver absolutely takes the cake for modern. All the classic stuff was great!

Wtf, I live near Glasgow and yet I'm only just finding out about bleed from within 😲

BLEED FROM WITHIN! 🙏

Groove metal kick ass 🤘

Seeing As the Palaces Burn in "Then" makes me feel old 😂

Even if I like Gojira, Jinjer and DevilDriver, definetly THEN!

Exhorder reminds me of Powertrip. Hell yeahhhh

Exhorder. Enough said. The kings of groove metal.

Nothing can beat Pantera, ever.

Summary: it was sick back then, and it's sick now

Dude looks like a math teacher. Shreds like dimebag

OK, this guy included FF and Sepultura. You sir, are rad

More evidence that absolutely nothing hits harder than Desecrator. Great video mate

now I have to re-listen to all machine head, sepultura and fear factory albums THANKS! (possibly also lamb of god and bleed from within)

exhorder grooves so fucking hard

Old Groove Metal: Slowed down thrash with Hair Metal and Progressive Metal influences. New Groove Metal: A blend of Djent, Death Metal, Black Metal and Symphonic Metal.

Bleed From Within are so underrated

Nice playing, mate! Not really heard the term groove metal before. I suppose it's any metal that is considered 'groovy'? lol

bro is a young verion of tha onne "black metal vs" guy

“Then” kills “Now”. Not even a contest.

Groove Metal nowadays its like metalcore 2. Btw amazing video bro, keep this good work

Could have added Chimaira - Resurrection in the new stuff. That song has easily one of the best riffs ever made. Also Lost Society - No Absolution.

Goddamn

Any one who has been to a machine head gig will know we don't groove, its fucking chaos.

Lamb Of God in the then category🥲....God that made feel old😂

You can't mention new Groove metal and NOT mention Slackjaw! They are fantastic! Like as if Gojira and Pantera had a love child with all that southern, groovy vibe to it

Can someone write the song list please?

Like em both i prefer the older tho just sounds meaner , funkier

I appreciate you always having different facial hair for both sides

Other than Pantera I never considered the rest of them as groove metal. Maybe 90s Sepultura because they were pretty groovy on Roots and Chaos A.D.

Cowboys From Hell curb stomps every other riff on here🤘🤠

Lol I never realised that so many bands I love are actually Groove Metal 😅 guess I’m a groove metal fan

Blw is metalcore isnt it?

Both great but im old so im going with “then”😂