Tiger 1200 vs GS1250 Review - At last!

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At last I've been able to get my hands on the new Triumph Tiger 1200 to carry out a detailed review and compare it to the BMW R1250GS. Is the new Tiger a GS beater as Triumph claim? Stay tuned to find out my opinion on the subject...
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@BigRockMoto 2 года назад

I pick up this same bike today for testing. I like that Triumph has the option for the 21 inch front wheel for serious off roading, but have the GT version for folks who want to primarily ride on the highway. I filmed the GT Pro already, huge fan of this new Tiger.

@kawabungah20 2 года назад

Thank you for the ride review. The new Tiger is very exciting. All of the comparisons to the GS are very helpful. I definitely want to try the tele-lever front suspension on the Beemer. All of my conventionally suspended motorcycles have had some brake dive - so I'm used to it. However, the tele-lever sounds nice for all-day touring on the highway.

@RikkyTang 2 года назад

Nice to see the Rally version being tested even though it might not be your preferred model! I hope that brake dive can be reduced by playing with the suspension (wonder if it has a "braking support" option in the settings)... as someone who likes a sporty ride now and then that dive would do my head in. Can't wait to see what the new generation of GS/boxer brings to the table!

@whiskywhippet 2 года назад

Well done Andy, I’ve been waiting months for this and it didn’t disappoint. Shame they didn’t give you a GT.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes it was, I did ask!

@raulmorell7540 2 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer no it’s a rally pro not a gt.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Indeed, I asked for the GT but was told one wasn't available and got the Rally pro as shown here.....

@raulmorell7540 2 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer oh I do apologise Andy. Interpreted your comment as you saying that it was a gt but of course you meant that it was a shame. Again apologies

@lorentzinvariant7348 2 года назад

Great Review as always. Loved the LCR clip at the end! Great fun. Also, turns out I am very skilled at video pausing. I had no idea! I totally agree btw.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Well done! A new skill mastered!

@simonporter6209 2 года назад

Hi Andy,Another straight and honest review which I really enjoy about your videos. I would like to hear a review of the 1200 GT Pro and how it compares with its smaller brother,the 900 Gt Pro. Happy riding 😊

@mikewood6071 2 года назад

Just bought a 1200 GT Pro I traded my Rocket 3 for it and I’m completely in love with my Tiger I don’t know how I ever got along without a quick shifter, it’s buttery smooth I’m 5’ 7” so I have the seat at the lowest setting. I can touch the balls of my feet on the ground, but I do mount the bike with the kickstand down lol The Rocket had allotta front end dive under hard breaking so, I don’t notice any on the GT Pro. I’ve already forgotten about the Rocket I LOVE my Tiger 1200 GT Pro P.S. I’ve always had a thing for Triumph LOL

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Me too....

@ChristopherD-M 2 года назад

Delighted that that the equilibrium hasn’t been disturbed, and I can go about my day knowing the GS is still the best! Great review Andy... love the Chopsy insert!

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Well done for watching to the end...he also has a review on one of these coming up soon, just sayin' ;0)

@stephenthompson6049 2 года назад

Current GS owner and past explorer owner, test road GT Pro, exceptional engine, fork dive was intolerable, better in many ways to the GS, but as a package the GS can’t be beaten

@vicomtedelomagne 2 года назад

Fork dive depends on your suspension settings.

@Gorbyrev 2 года назад

Great review Andy. Got a friend who is volunteering for the Blood Bikes in his retirement. As a requirement he has had to do the Advanced Institute of Motorist's test. The one thing that has shocked him is how little his instructor uses the front brake. Firstly the back brake doesn't unsettle the bike and secondly back brakes have got so good that for everyday use they are more than adequate except in emergencies. Apparently many police bikes get corroded front discs through lack of use. Trying it on my Tiger 800 and the fork dive disappears!

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes very true!

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 года назад

I'm so pleased you've also noticed the weed smell more these days, I was just saying this the other day!

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yeah not good is it - I have no issue with it in private but not driving under the influence…

@VRFlightSimGuy 2 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer I couldn't agree more

@travelinben1966 2 года назад

I’m an old school Triumph and Norton guy,60’s vintage.I’ve never owned an adventure bike, but I wish Triumph great success for their offerings.I anxiously anticipate offerings from the revived Norton, and now BSA,which is also very exciting.I hope they due justice to the marque(s),which,(in my mind), represented the pinnacle of the motorcycle industry at that time in history.The torque, acceleration,and the smell of raw gas combined with the heat was the recipe for a love affair for the old British bikes.Same can be said for my old MG’s and Mini Cooper S.Thanks TMF for all you do to keep us informed on everything motorcycle.👍🏻👍🏻

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

It really is my pleasure! Thanks for watching!

@LXDDLE10 2 года назад

Spot on! The fact is that GS remains the bike against which all adventure tourers are compared. There are certainly reasonable decisions made by buyers to choose another bike over the GS but it is the best vehicle on the market, certainly for your typical rider. While excelling as an adventure tourer it also still qualifies as perhaps the best large displacement all-around motorcycle in the world. I did note that Kinga of "On Her Bike" is starting a tour of Australia on a Husqvarna Norden, which she sounds quite excited about. It's a bike that we don't hear of much and it will be very interesting to see how it works out. It's important to note that it is a variant of the KTM 890. Good on Triumph for challenging BMW but the big Beemer is still the bike that all of the others are trying to best.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes agreed - thanks for watching!

@chrischristofis8501 Год назад

Maybe the KTM 1290 is the nearest contender

@mmorlan1481 2 года назад

GS riders seldom nod, because they are deep in concentration, trying to identify the source of that new knocking sound that wasn't there yesterday ;-) Sadly BMW score very low on the reliability scale and the cost of any repair is , shall we say in polite company , excessive . To ride, the BMW may be a little better. To own, I vote for the Tiger. Thank you Andy. Yet another balanced, honest, informative review.

@alanbarnes2920 2 года назад

Great comment…I’m still chuckling

@craigfinnegan8534 2 года назад

I've heard so many bad things about BMW reliability I'm tempted to not even bother test-riding one.

@richardd9976 2 года назад

I just traded my 1250GS for a GT Explorer. After the first 1k miles, no regrets, and no issues with fork dive... perhaps your example was adjusted to have v. soft front suspension or perhaps it's just the Rally versions that suffer more. Agree with you about the TFT, GPS integration and the joystick. Here, I think BMW was better. Other than that though, I think the GT Explorer wins. I guess the next GS will have built-in GPS display like the RT. A backward step IMO.

@DanTube2010 2 года назад

Nose dive is easily avoided for sure, just a case of setting the suspension correctly and using the right braking technique.

@nikoscosmos 2 года назад

Tell me how you can brake without transferring weight forward and maintaining suspension movement on conventional front forks?

@steveart24 2 года назад

@@nikoscosmos Balance it with some rear braking and check you've got the suspension set up correctly in the first place

@nikoscosmos 2 года назад

@@DanTube2010 with conventional front forks it will always be a compromise of increased compression dampingas and reduced suspension travel as the weight transfer will always go down the forks from the headstock. With anti dive geometry the weight transfer will go directly to the front wheel and suspension travel won't be used up. In practice a well set up bike is fine for its intended use but I prefer my BMW anti dive system. 😉

@DanTube2010 2 года назад

@@nikoscosmos Of course the front will dive if braking hard for say an emergency stop. Even your GS will dive an inch or so in that situation. What I should say is that nose dive is easily avoided in controlled situations when you know that you're going to stop well in advance.

@michaelrheiner2415 2 года назад

Well done as always. For me, everything comes in 2’s. First midlife crisis my wife and I had involved cars. Survived that and sold off all those toys, but learned a ton. Now that 7 of our 8 kids are grown and gone, we’ve found motorcycles to be a MUCH cheaper option than cars (Insuance, gas, actual cost are all MUCH lower). While I do tend to “research”, we love all things Triumph. For me, everything comes in 2’s. My wife is NOT a passenger. She loves to ride. So when I bought my T120, she got her Bobber. But here in middle America, we’ve got wind, long roads, but plenty of highway and distances from almost anything. And while our bikes are funds and practical for work purposes (mine is practical), the Tigers are in our future. The 1200 is a great ride and at 5’10”, in the normal seat height, it was not terrible for me. And after test riding an Indian Roadmaster and a Challenger, even a Tiger 1200 feels light and easy to move around. I found the Tiger GT Pro to be exactly what I hoped it would be: an easy bike to ride for road trips to other states in the USofA. They handle wind wonderfully, and are so comfortable. I’ve only test ridden, but as a true fan of all things Triumph, I have zero desire to nitpick when the Tiger is a great bike. My wife, who is 5’7”, found the 1200 a bit tall even after doing the under seat adjustment that lowers the stock seat another 20mm. As much as she loves big numbers on her engines, I have her at least open to testing out the 900 GT Pro to see if it fits her a bit better. One way or another, she’ll figure it out. We met a 74 year old woman who was riding her 2018 Tiger solo from Connecticut to Washington state. She was 5’6” at best and had the LH version which she just loved. She adapted and found a way, because the product is great. Here in the US we definitely have more Triumph dealers than BMW which helps make the decision easier if you want a relationship with a good dealer. We will be riding 1200’s and 900’s on Tuesday and hopefully at least decide what she’s going to be comfortable on, that fits her best. We love our Triumphs and I’m grateful for a partner who loves riding. She rides more for pleasure, and I ride as much as possible (including for work….it’s amazing how much I can carry with four bags on my 120)….but buying in 2’s means trusting the dealing to take care of us…they are going to make 2 sales every time we buy…so we have to have a relationship we both enjoy. Our local dealer also happens to be a hangout for the Triumph and RE owners. Appreciate the Rally review….the nose travel is a funny thing to complain about….it’s one of those things that a person adapts to….kind of like riding a horse with a different feel…you don’t change the horse, you adapt and work together.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Thanks for the long comment Michael - I'm still trying to get my head aroud 8 kids!!!! Crikey!!

@michaelrheiner2415 2 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer it is blended but we had the kids full time. Had to find fun activities to keep us saine….I’ve had teenagers since 2007…..yeah, I’ve had my fill of teenagers…..keep two wheels down and keep on motoring! I’ve got mates in Bicester and Sunderland with family in Scotland….me and the misses look forward to an eventual trip to visit, run with my mates, ride some Motorcycles, and see some of those roads for ourselves! Keep on riding!

@ElliotDooleysmith 2 года назад

Great video. I had a test ride of one of these a few weeks ago and thought it was great. For me, it was a tie between the Tiger 900 and 1200. I decided to go for the 900 primarily because of the cost. I did a test ride on the GS as well, however, I didn't like it that much. Pretty much everything was great with it but the one thing I found that put me off was the Boxer engine. Not that the engine wasn't great as an engine, it's just I kept hitting it with my size 14 feet. Because it's right there in front of you and sticks out quite far there was nowhere to stretch out your legs. So after just a 40-minute ride, I felt my legs cramping and had no easy way to give them a little stretch. I've very excited to get my new bike, the end of July feels like forever away.

@fantastic_voyage 2 года назад

Hi ...would just say...the tank range and mpg is not so good on the ducati v4s....quite a consideration when travelling....the bmw gs is noisy engine wise when pulling up at junctions etc. I know I've owned 5 of them....the triumph for me 6'2" is nicer all round ...getting mine delivered today...:-) Good channel by the way.......

@nikoscosmos 2 года назад

I have size 15s -You can just about stretch out your legs under the cylinder if you are careful n ot to touch the road!!

@craigfinnegan8534 2 года назад

Helpful comment. BMW reliability issues, the loud engine noise I've heard about and the vulnerability of those cylinders make me tempted to not even bother test-riding a GS.

@nikoscosmos 2 года назад

@@craigfinnegan8534 If you're worried about mechanical noise I would recommend an Energica or Zero.

@nikoscosmos 2 года назад

Size 15, 6ft6in. Never had a problem with cylinder heads on a GS as the footpegs are quite far back. The R18 is another matter.

@StuartRShaw-vy5tz 2 года назад

I've been waiting for your review on this bike...Nice one..having been an owner of 1250gs for 2 1/2 years swopped it for a tiger 900 gtpro and I'm still loving it. Purchased it last Nov and nearly 3000 miles on the clock. Its great. Connectivity is of no importance to me. Few vibes at 70 ish but as you say not obtrusive. Wouldn't have that sort of heavy bike again. 900 around 40 kilos lighter and plenty of power. Take care.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes I love the 900 - I would seriously consider that (or the 850 Sport) if/when I come to buy another adventure bike....

@StuartRShaw-vy5tz 2 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer I think if i was buying again would probably just have the gt with optional centre stand saving around £1900. 👍

@ianhoskins7838 2 года назад

Be nice to learn your thoughts when you get a chance to ride the GT Pro. My dealer lent me one when my bike was in for a service. I was able to take it on my normal route to test. It gave me a chance to play with the settings. I found the sport mode a little to abrupt and snatchy but liked the firmer suspension set-up. So I just dialled up the suspension settings in road mode. This reduced the brake dive and I had the the benefit of a less sensitive throttle. In practice, I’d probably leave the bike in this set up for 90% of my riding, or set this up in the rider-configurable mode. The bike I had did have the vibes but I generally pass through them on the A and B type roads that I typically ride, so not a deal breaker. I didn’t gel with the T-Plane motor initially and think the previous generation configuration would suit my road riding needs better. However, after a few hours I started to befriend the T-Plane mill and enjoy it’s character; it really does have 2 personalities and is fun transitioning through them. I’m only 5’7” and the 850mm seat height was manageable but on my limits, I’d probably opt for the low seat (830mm) which also adds heating. Resale value is something I look at so a low mileage second hand one might be the wise choice. My Triumph dealer is very close and is good. The closest BMW dealer is 4 hours away. This last point could be the deciding factor and pull me towards a new Tiger. We’ll see. Thanks for the review Andy.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Thank you for your thoughts!

@szaneman791 2 года назад

Your reviews are absolutely the best! Thank you good Sir.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

You are very kind!

@davidhorne779 2 года назад

Great review. Considering the average height of males for a large part of the world's male population is 5ft 9.5in (176cm) or under, I can't work out why manufacturers have ridiculous seat heights like 875mm. I'm average height and there's no way I would take a bike that tall off-road or even feel comfortable around town.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

I'm 100% with you on that.

@IanTed 2 года назад

Why I swapped my GSA for a V2 Multistrada, 820mm seat height and narrow, great for those of us with a 29” inside leg😆

@SirOsisofLiver 2 года назад

I'm 178 and roughly 75kg. I couldn't imagine wrestling one of these walrusus off road. At the weekend I looked at an Africa Twin. I could just about get tip toes on the floor. To make matters worse, a lot of the weight seemed high up. In the distant past I had a kick start DR650 with barely legal knobblies. Compared to previous Elsinore and RM 250s, I soon learned the value of light weight off road. Previous trails that I hadn't even thought about left me absolutely knackered on the DR. For me, I'd be looking at some form of sport tourer and a small bore dual purpose or dirt bike. Horses for courses.

@martycech5844 Год назад

Buy what ‘ Fits ‘ you & be done with it…

@Thanx4alldafish Год назад

I'm the opposite, I'm 6ft 3 so 875mm becomes about the minimum comfortable seat height. This is a win for me with the Triumph. If every bike had a seat height ideal for the 'average' person, I would never find a bike I'm comfortable on. We need these variations in the market. It limits my choice as it does yours, but I wouldn't have it any other way.

@AcatGaming 2 года назад

Never been an adventure bike fan. I've got a few mates who have a R1250 GS. But good golly that Triumph is such a gorgeous looking bike. This might've changed my mind on ADV bikes. Awesome Review as always

@bonerfi9254 2 года назад

Been waiting on this vid! Glad you cut to the chase with the rider experience, Andy, and delivered with your usual panache as well. Cheers for taking the time. The cameo by Chops was hilarious! 🍻🍻🍻

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Glad you watched all the way through and spotted that! Cheers for the kind comments....

@nickrider5220 2 года назад

Really good review of how the bike feels to ride 👍 Wouldn't want the more off road TE though, a hard packed track is as offroad as I'd go, or 99 % of would be owners I dare say !

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Totally agree Nick - thanks for watching!

@coffeeguy6673 2 года назад

Hi Nick, you just reminded me of when a friend of mine and I rode up to the Scottish Borders and into Kielder , great place and scenery. We both owned Tiger 800's back then and my pal had bought the spoked wheel version, I forget the model, mine was the road version. Anyway, we noticed lots of gravel tracks and I said, shall we give one or two of them a go and he said, oh I don't fancy going off road !! It was hardly off road, we did go on a few of these gravelly tracks and the bikes performed impeccably. There was always in the back of my mind, what if I drop this, it's probably going to hurt and it could be expensive !! I certainly wouldn't want to take a £17k bike off road. Cheers.

@LambChopRides 2 года назад

Great review Andy! Not sure who that hansom chap was towards the end though 😁

@peterjfox69 2 года назад

I've been a Triumph Tiger owner for ten years now, Gen 1-3 love them because of the engine as well as being great bikes. I waited three years for the new 1200 to come out but cannot get on with the new engine. Didn't like it on the 900 so bought a Gen 3 800 XCA new for a great price hoping to trade it in for the new 1200 but no way. I do notice the vibes at around 75-80 mph, really notice them after riding the old triple for so many years. I've ridden the new bike for nearly a day now trying to ignore them but I can't. Why oh why change it when most people will be just touring on it baffles me. On the 900 maybe as people will go off road much more on the smaller bike but not the 1200. Just bought a GSA instead. How daft is that! Not me buying a GSA, but Triumph putting me on one...

@josephmt0927 2 года назад

I totally agree with you, I tested the new triumph 1200 Gt pro and the vibrations on that thing are too much, the BMW r1250gsa is much smoother :-)

@Nell1052 2 года назад

@@josephmt0927 Totally agree, After 17 years on Triumphs, I truly hate the T plane engines & it's intrusive vibrations, it's an evolutionary route I will not take, what's worse is the Speedie 1200RS motor is a peach by comparison ! Most Tigers will be used in Tarmac, so why spoil it for those 5% that go off-road ? After all if we wanted a GS we'd simply buy a GS !

@motocrusader72 2 года назад

As always, an excellent review and very value added. I need to catch up on my monthly bike news vids so you can educate me on the new GS. Hopefully headed back to the US next year after 10 year stint in Japan so a new GS is on the top of my list (#2 is finally buying a house by the way!)

@Fernando90054 2 года назад

Is a very difficult task to overcome the current GS 1250. But it is a sign that other brands are getting closer👍🏻👍🏻

@blade19620 Год назад

And ore expensive than the GS too

@chrischristofis8501 Год назад

I dont think the triumph is close enough to the GS really in terms of riding experience, build quality or design, it is a good effort but given a choice anyone with any sense would have the GS

@Fernando90054 Год назад

@@chrischristofis8501You’re maybe right. And in the next year, with the iteration of the GS , Its expectable big development on the bike in general and tech improvements from BMW 👍

@Ian-bq7gp Год назад

Im sure the reliability servicing and spares and even the design and performance id have the tiger. They seem better finished than some hondas like the africa twin especially somewhere like scotland where fasteners etc rust. I really like those big triumph triple engines.

@ttrguy9952 2 года назад

I traded and am waiting for my Tiger 1200 GT Explorer to come in hopefully this month. I will definitely have the first one in New England! Great video Sir!!! I think comparing the GT version to the GS would be a better comparison. 🙌👏👏👏👏👏🖖👌✌🤙👍👋🙂

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

I agree but I can only work with what I can get!

@andrewspooner8146 2 года назад

I considered the 1200 but I was more impressed with the 900 Rally Pro. I preferred the weight and look of the 900 and I liked the TFT so I parted my money for the 900.

@martinlegrice1414 2 года назад

Absolutely agree Andrew and I went in exactly the same direction. Love my 900 Rally Pro!

@ThaiggerRooAdventures 2 года назад

@@martinlegrice1414 same same. love my 900 RP. even more than my outgoing 1250GS. smoother, lighter, smaller. triumph hit it out of the park with it imo.

@michaelarchangel1163 2 года назад

Nobody's going to try using this bike as real mudplugger, so the change to a T-plane crank is a foolish 'let's dare to be different' lot of bollocks, making it less smooth and supposedly imparting more low end controllable drive on a loose surface, which nobody will ever use.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes given few actually take them off road I thought it an odd step - I far prefer the smooth delivery of the traditional triple (not to mention its distinctive noise)

@ogdennash2439 2 года назад

Hi Andy - great review. I bought a 1250GS, and one of the the deciding factors was the 3 year guarantee on the GS. If I am on tour in Southern Italy and I break down... I call BMW, they come and get me and try to repair the bike. If it takes a day or so, they put me in a hotel, if it takes longer, they fly me and the missus home to the UK and then fly the bike back and deliver it to me. That is a serious amount of support and service..... how does the Tiger match up ?

@brucecutts8841 2 года назад

The Triumph also has a three year warranty

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes good point on the BMW breakdown service - not sure if the Triumph one is quite as comprehensive but may well be (I'm sure someone can tell us)....

@craigfinnegan8534 2 года назад

Wouldn't you rather have a bike that doesn't break down in the first place?

@colingoldthorpe5918 2 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer my Trophy Broke down 1 month old I had to pay the tow to the dealership and they sent me a check in the mail. But that was a Canada, someone forgot to tighten the stater cable must have been a Monday or Friday 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ great review TMF just loving my new T120 gold line it’s just awesome. Only taken the Trophy SE out a couple of times. Needed to take the burden of the Trophy and share the work load 😁😁 ride Safe Andy have a great weekend👍👍thanks for all the videos and work effort on them.

@toby7504 Год назад

This might be a better bike, but old one looks so mutch better. Nice review sir

@jesseonamotorcycle Год назад

Toby 750 I went with the Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer and it’s an awesome bike, especially off road.

@toby7504 Год назад

@@jesseonamotorcycle l belive you there, as l do not like the looks of this new 1200 (personal prefrance) l love the cockpit, its just sutch a nice place to be in. Congratulation on a new bike mate 🇳🇴☕😊. If l do end up with on some day, it will be the GT version as l commute all year around and spokes in salt is a nightmare to keep clean😄 Rides safe.

@kingkrimson8771 Год назад

Let's be honest, none of the bikes in this class are rolling works of art. How they work is far more important than how they look, and the new one works so much better by any measure.

@GPR111 2 года назад

GS for me... on my second one now, totally brilliant go anywhere bike (and no fork dive - which I think you have to live with one for a while to fully appreciate that.... Its one of the undesirable things I always immediately notice on any other bike now ) Plus I value the 3 yrs warranty which is a must for me on these increasingly tech bikes. You are right, the margins between all these adv tourers are getting finer but for me the BMW is "just right". Hope the new one has mirror integrated indicators which I think all bikes should have.... ? I like the Tiger though and no doubt it will be a success, the big triple motors pull like a freight train ! Pipes out of fork tops looks a bit ropey ...

@timwhite3250 2 года назад

I’m definitely with you on this one. The big thing with the GS is the “living with it” factor. This for me is the big deal with GS’s and always has been. The more you ride it the better it gets. The more things you use it for, the better it gets. Commute, running errands, doing the food shopping touring, whatever and that’s where it really wins out for me. Arguably the Triumph should be better at everything, it’s come out 4 years later. So bench mark the opposition, make your new bike 5% better on everything and you have a winner. It’s good to have choice, though I hope that BMW don’t get sucked in to the power and weight battle. Power near max rpm means nothing to me, big torque at 5000rpm does. I’ll take the few kg penalty for telelever front suspension, it’s something that keeps the GS different. In fact I personally wish they still had the old style indicator switches, miles better 😂

@hollowaysteve 2 года назад

Yep, 3yrs warranty. Just enough to cover the rental crowd, and let the used market owners pick up the (expensive) pieces.

@MW_1981 2 года назад

Triumph bikes now also have a 3 year warranty

@timwhite3250 2 года назад

@@hollowaysteve So let’s say the “rental crowd” as you call it get rid of their bikes after a 3 year PCP. Chances are that they will be sold back to the dealer for another PCP perhaps. If that’s the case then in BMW dealers at least, that bike will be sold with a 2 year approved used warranty so that bike will have been covered for a total of 5 years in this use profile. There will likely be an option to purchase another year though arguable whether that’s worth it as some items are not covered. I assume it will be a similar story with Triumph. So while there will be some cases for sure that do not fit this profile the 3 year PCP bikes will often fit it

@hollowaysteve 2 года назад

@@timwhite3250 Exactly. So as I say. The rental crowd are covered

@perryburns6515 2 года назад

Great review TMF with bonus guest appearance from uncle chops! Winner

@chrisgover7765 2 года назад

Great review.I've ridden the 1200 GT Pro and rode a GSA a few years back. Now completely confused on which one to get. BMW deal is very attractive and the Triumphh dealer has matched it .... the Triumph seems to be winning. I'm jumping off a ZZR1400 and had a VFR1200 Crosstourer before. Decisions, decisions! Just not sure which one.....help!!

@awesomeagnihotrisvlog 2 года назад

Which one did you buy mate …are you happy with your descion 🙌🙌

@mr.sunshine665 2 года назад

👋 hello everybody.. I can perfectly understand why so many bikers love and buys the Bmw Gs 1250 but for having tried many times that motorcycle my feelings were that even though it’s a very multi qualified bike it gave me no goosebumps or smile riding it… I had more pleasure riding the Triumph Tiger 1200 probably because of the sound and how the power of the 3 cylinders are giving to the rider and to be honest the looks as well of the Tiger is more my taste. ✌🏼

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Fair enough! The Tiger does have a great engine I agree….

@brianhill3603 2 года назад

My mate has the previous model and tbh I prefer its looks over this one, swingarm looks awful and I dont know if it was just the microphone but it sounded like a bag of nails, I would miss the triple howl of the old one, I'll just keep my own gs1200. Glad you done this great video to show that newer isn't always better 😎🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Thanks for watching Brian!

@nikoscosmos 2 года назад

I have heard the same comments from some friends who own the previous Tiger. A nice engine messed up.

@peterjfox69 2 года назад

The perfect touring engine messed up 😔

@seamus9750 2 года назад

Been in a relationship with my GSA from New since 2008... could never see myself cheating 💚

@pistolpete6321 2 года назад

Great review, you really can’t go wrong with either the GS or the new Tiger 1200.

@creedm3040 2 года назад

Beautiful bike for sure! I have always loved Triumph motorcycles. My problem is the nearest dealer is almost 2 hours away. I’m not sure why Triumph went with that crank , the sound could be much better. And those brake reservoir’s. Ugh! I do love the brakes, Stylema’s are amazing. They should be on the GS. Seat height is the major concern for me. I don’t tippy toe. Way too dangerous. Awesome video ! Best!

@ragerider6283 2 года назад

Nice review TMF. Seems like a great bike & a big improvement on its predecessor but the GS is evidently a tough nut to crack. With regard to the suspension & dive, can this not be firmed up & tuned out fairly easily with the semi-active settings, or dare I say a manual adjuster somewhere?

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Maybe somewhat but not to the extent that the BMWs telelever prevents it - for me, that's quite a big deal because of course these big ADV bikes have so much suspension travel.....

@ragerider6283 2 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer Interesting, thanks. Could be worth checking out the other version(s) of this new Tiger at some point in the future then maybe.

@twowheelstouring482 2 года назад

Its a shame you cant choose the firing order for when your on road, i love the triple too and have the 2014 Tiger800, the smoothness (turbine like whistle) of the engine is a big deal for me.

@paulscammellscampi3743 2 года назад

Great review Andy the first one I've seen where it's actually compared to the GS . I test ride the 900 rally pro and the dive on the front really put me off I tested 1200 gt pro and found the front dive not to bad , but the vibes on the bars gave me numb finger tips and it had a really snatchy throttle. Ps I'm a triumph fanboy but having tested the GS last weekend I think the bm just takes the win because of the triumph vibes. I just wish triumph had put the 1200 speed triple engine into the gt models and T-plane into the rally models

@flyingklaasman 2 года назад

Thank you for the compliment on the Pause skills!!

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Well done!

@flyingklaasman 2 года назад

Cheers!!😜

@S.p.a.c.e.C.o.w.b.o.y 2 года назад

I think I'd prefer the 900 rally pro. The extra 30+kgs is a deal-breaker for me. The GT Pro 1200 may be a different story.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes I think I prefer the 900 over this - their lightness is a real plus point...not to mention the height.

@michielvandepol6765 2 года назад

I've had two T900RP's. One of the best bikes I've ever owned.

@VRcrazyman 2 года назад

I had the same pairing issues with my GT Explorer; the problem is simple; your iPhone name is too long! I had to change mine from ‘Jonathan’s iPhone’ to ‘Jonathan’ and it works fine; a nice chap at Triumph admitted that if the iPhone name is too long or has special characters or spaces, the pairing fails! Nice of them to have not put that in their pairing documentation! Great video by the way….

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes they should make that known!

@SanandanDA 2 года назад

These bikes have become seriously expensive. It's an impressive machine for sure, but it runs too hot for the Indian climate, GS has a massive advantage there.

@DaveDayve 2 года назад

The old 1200 defiantly didn't. It would over heat left right n centre. I had one. Awful

@christianolsen9781 2 года назад

@@DaveDayve new ones are water cooled 👍

@DaveDayve 2 года назад

@@christianolsen9781 part oil, part water

@chamade166 2 года назад

It's an English rust bucket what do you expect.

@pedromiguelareias 2 года назад

No, no. Triumphs around here have been gaining a robust reputation for quality. Better than Honda.

@michaelhassall6821 2 года назад

Regarding fork dive i noticed this bike has electronic fork adjust which you did not go into . Perhaps it might have different rider modes that may stiffen it up as my car has .

@ridewherever 2 года назад

I love all the flagship adv bikes. They all look equally good too. But since the T7 exists…I feel like I could make it work for every situation.. Plus it would beat all of them off-road easily. I think my fancy phase has worn off. I love electronics but do I need them? Ehhhh I’m not too sure. Great review Andy!

@prep4evac 2 года назад

I looked at the T7, really light half the price and I would have got one but then I found it uses tubed tyres, not something easy to fix at the roadside

@ridewherever 2 года назад

@@prep4evac you can switch them to tubeless 😀

@GillyBikes 2 года назад

I haven ridden and reviewed both. I found the GS to be perfect. I did everything well. But it didn’t put a smile on my face. The Tiger was good but not perfect. But the way it rides put a big smile on my face. I had loads more fun on the Tiger. For grin factor I would pick the Tiger (personal preference) but you wouldn’t be disappointed with either.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes maybe, if I wanted out and out grins I'd go for the Multistrada though....

@GillyBikes 2 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer yes I agree with that. Had a play on that as well. 👍

@glenntoulouse5710 2 года назад

May feel faster when you wind it up but gs still has more bottom end and midrange. Honestly was underwhelmed by the tiger after all the hype. If I wanted a hooligan adventure ktm would win.

@freddiel178 2 года назад

LOVE the "small print". Right on point!!

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Well spotted!

@wilbo5457 2 года назад

Hi Andrew, are you goin to try the GT version for a review? PS loved the little Mavis "get a grip" insert 🤣🤣🤣

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yep - I’m getting one in September for comparison….

@wilbo5457 2 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer Excellent my man, I'll be watching out for that! 👍

@johnsmith5726 2 года назад

I'm sorry, but if you are going to claim your new bike is a GS beater, then at least have the good grace to actually design a new bike. This is a GS clone with a different engine that ended up being heavier, more expensive, and with nose dive. It might be a nice bike for what it is, but it will never be a GS beater, just another different copy.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Well a bit strong maybe but I do agree!!

@davidhailstone1519 2 года назад

Exactly,

@arrow0872 2 года назад

It’s actually quite a bit lighter, and has a similar price…

@snowbrdlover 2 года назад

Guys the front dive is not a disadvantage... the rally version its off road oriented... thats why it has also 20mm more travel...

@davidsmyth2798 2 года назад

I know you may not like all the electronics, but thats one of the reasons why they are expensive as you can tailor the ride to suit. It has much less dive and more power in sport mode although a firmer ride. I really like it and I had a GS

@kurushunwalla 2 года назад

Nice review/comparison TMF! Wonder which one you are going to finally pick up😊 out of the trio. My local dealer has these babies for a test ride. Will take a test ride this weekend. I am more inclined to try out the GT Pro since I am not and have never been interested in off road shenanigans. Cheers

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes the GT Pro is the one I'd go for too....

@PhilipBallGarry 2 года назад

Another excellent review Andy thank you. Although I'm not in the market for a new bike I always watch your vids as you know. I like to stay informed and keep up. Regarding cannabis driving, it's alarming isn't it and the same where I Iive. A worry indeed. I think they call it "hot boxing". There's an old BMW 5 series which parks outside our local Aldi. When the doors open there's a blue cloud which which wafts out - along with driver, wife and kids. Not good 😔 The heightened sense of smell when riding means you're always "tuned" to such things. Diesel fuel whiff and the associated rainbows on wet roads are always to be observed too 🤨.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes agreed!

@markmundy3435 2 года назад

Your review (along with one other) is the one I've been most looking farward to. I can cast aside how tall you find it as I'm over 6ft tall and fork dive due to you being so familiar with a GS and it being the rally with its longer travel suspension, but I'd be interested to know what setting it was in, it may have been on the soft side ( but would I'm sure still dive somewhat under braking, like all bikes with a conventional setup do). I'll take what you say as a Gs rider as glowing praise for the new Tiger, and part of me, as a Tiger owner, prays the new tiger never overtakes the Gs in the sales chart, I kinda like that when I park up its one of one not one of ten in any carpark. You'll never out Gs a Gs but will take same same but different.

@ElvinIsbell 2 года назад

"I got a whiff of cannabis there!" I know that's a rotten thing for a driver to do, but you made me giggle when you pointed it out.

@Darryl1982 Год назад

I'm going through most of your reviews as I'm trying to get an impression of what bikes are worth shortlisting for touring. I haven't come across your Honda Africa Twin review yet but that being said, it isn't in your top 3. Is it a bike worth considering? Personal taste aside, I'd be interested to hear your views as you're a rider with a lot more experience than myself in all things motorcycling. Great review by the way! Edit: just watched your review on the Africa Twin. I would consider myself as being a fairly fit 6'2 individual but you did raise some other points in your negatives which was helpful. I foresee many test rides in the near future 😄

@clemfandango9534 2 года назад

Respectfully, this is a disappointing review. You can’t in my opinion simply ignore the electronics on bikes, because the modes setting you use can make a huge difference to how the bike rides. So when you say “ I’m only interested in how a bike rides not the electronics” this makes no sense because the rider modes make a huge difference.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Fairpoint, but there are plenty of other reviews on RU-vid that go through all the details of the electronics and I frankly CBA!

@clemfandango9534 2 года назад

Fair enough. Your channel. Your perogative. But if you criticise an aspect of a bike while not bothering to establish if it’s a valid criticism or not (that may be easily addressed by RTFM) it dents your credibility and your opinion means a lot less.

@bobholley6202 2 года назад

I think we should beware of letting the old brand loyalty syndrome effect our judgment. I went through issues with the Pan America. It took a test ride a few times before I came to the realization that it’s not near as good as many reviews say it is. I wanted it to be, but it wasn’t. Loyalty can cloud judgment fellas, be careful. I almost made a mistake and went back to Harley. In hindsight I’m glad I didn’t. A great review Andy! I’m going to be looking for a new ADV bike next year and am in the same situation. Too many good bikes to choose from. A good problem to have no doubt!

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Sure is! Thanks for watching Bob!

@20spag 2 года назад

Regarding the phone sync problem. Try disabling any other Bluetooth apps on your phone before you attempt to connect via the Triumph app,

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes might work, trouble is I need Bluetooth enabled so that my Apple Watch can talk to my phone, it’s a pain if the bike means I lose that functionality.

@jamest5149 2 года назад

Good to see Chops… pointing out the obvious with Mavis’s help. 👍

@darrylcoomer1539 2 года назад

Great review Andy, These are going to sell well!

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

I think so too!

@danasprey4144 2 года назад

Sold! Your enthusiasm has it.

@joshnnik 2 года назад

Can’t hack the vibes from the T plane cranks on the Tigers that I’ve ridden, play hell with my shoulders. Fork dive was a niggle on the Africa twin that I once owned. Sticking with my BMW.

@ratbrain7743 10 месяцев назад

Once you get the tech figured out. You can stiffen the damping and get rid of the brake dive. It takes 10 seconds. Those tourance front tires howl at 40-50 mph drive me nuts on my GTX

@LonelyTreeSunset 2 года назад

Wait for the next GS! BMW can't afford to cock it up.

@kevinmorris265 2 года назад

Well presented!, Triumph will never be as good as the Gs!, Stick with the BMW Andy!, You know it makes Sense!!😂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

@michaelelson668 2 года назад

As a owner of both the 1250 GS and the tramp tiger 1200 GT pro I can say the two bikes are very similar in ergonomically, handling, and electronics. Both have excellent quick shifters and handwarmers I just don’t get warm enough. Don’t get me started on that. The GS has a tractor for a motor, whereas the tribes not quite that, but it’s close. Let me tell you when you give it the beans it Goes fast! Is it better than the GS in my opinion? No, but it’s a great Combination for the garage

@tommillar2821 2 года назад

interesting,i had an 1200 explorer for the years now a r1250 gsa hp jurys out to be honest yet to find anybody who has taken the new triumph out at [night] have you ? if so the triumph headlight does it work or will one need to buy a pair of denali driving lamps.

@adammills4343 2 года назад

Greetings from Australia TMF , in regards to a few things in comparison between the two bikes - in Australia all GS 1250 models come standard with semi-active suspension and now heated seats , in the brake department the GS came with BMW branded brakes for a couple of years but now come with brembo brakes , I currently own a 2021 1250 GSA in the low suspension model ( a big plus due to me being vertically challenged ) and love everything about it - at the time the old 1200 tiger was too tall and too heavy form me and I did also like the multistrada 1200 but the service intervals and the lack of a shaft drive put it out of contention for me - and so I went with the BMW , I did own a 2008 tiger 1050 which was brilliant in every way and a great bike in its own right , if Triumph had the new tiger 1200 explorer at the time I was in the market , it would have been a very difficult decision to make , at the end of the day both of these bikes are world class and very closely matched . As always another great review mate , it will be interesting to see what your final choice will be in the near future . Cheers.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

I loved the old Tiger 1050 too - I had one, a 2009, great engine (but heavy!)

@MarkATaylor 2 года назад

Been waiting for this one, especially as I swapped my gen 3 Tiger 1200 for a new GS earlier this year. Agree it looks good and I wonder about the new t plane vs the old silky smooth triple 🤔The old bike was top heavy and a handful manoeuvring in slow traffic, you wouldn’t dream of taking it off road either but was a comfy tourer for sure so glad to hear this is much lighter. I hear though that the big tank version is somewhat top heavy. It’s great that we live in a world where there are so many good Adventure style bikes for those of us that way inclined - this, the Multistrada V4S, the KTM 1290 SA and of course the still mighty GS. Great intro review Andy, I wonder if you’ll get a long termed, maybe on the GT at some point.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes - in September….

@Moto.Twisties 2 года назад

Finally paused on the “small print” love it!

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Congratulations!

@Trevor_Austin 2 года назад

If there is one takeaway from this review its that Triumph have listened to feedback and dramatically improved their product. That can only be good for us all. What is also interesting is not only your comments but those of many others - Everybody appears to be waiting for the next bike before they make their minds up? The computer world used to be like this with everyone waiting for the newly announced super-duper turbo-nutter with added pizzazz only to defer their decision because another manufacturer announced the same but with bells on. Why not buy what’s available now and get the miles and smiles earlier?

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes that is a good point Trevor - not to mention that older bikes can still be pretty good too (I'm thinking my late 2013 GS for example)....

@nikoscosmos 2 года назад

I think Triumph have aimed at the BMW. Friends of mine with older Tigers don't complain about the weight of their bikes but don't like the revised engine on the new model.

@paramesvaridasa5167 2 года назад

Nice review….. you are my standard of a good review….. could you tell me what jacket you have on…. Cheers from Oregon ….

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

That's my Rukka Nivala....

@ujay888cc Год назад

Comprehensive review. Having owned BMW bikes, the biggest issue is that they corrode. If they addressed this, the GS would be a no brainer. But, for longevity it has to be a Triumph

@TheMissendenFlyer Год назад

My GS is ok on the corrosion front….

@ujay888cc Год назад

TMF. Rode the Triumph today with a very open mind. Windnoise and engine noise were significant. I wouldn't entertain the Triumph now. BMW are a different league when it comes to riding experience. Glad to get back on my R1200R LC.

@johnfretz1938 9 месяцев назад

Trick for when you get a long travel suspended bike with a bit of front end dive...skim your rear brake a little, as you slow down slow down with the fronts. It'll help control the chassis a bit and limit the dive.

@steveball2307 2 года назад

You should try and get a go on the smaller wheeled/lower seat hight GT, I suspect that's the model most will go far (at least those who can afford one!). Presumably some of that fork dive can be dialled out on the semi active suspension set up?

@grayjohn1906 2 года назад

Spot on comment, seems to me Triumph really missed a trick, not supplying a GT version?

@steveball2307 2 года назад

@@grayjohn1906 Absolutely, especially with Andy not being especially tall and comparing it with his 17/19 wheeled GS.

@dingbell5498 2 года назад

Just done a test ride on a 1200GT Pro, didn’t notice any vibes to write home about. Mirrors were clear and steady at all the speeds I tried. Quick shifter was excellent, as was the comfort. Sat nav,? Triumph scored an own goal here in my book by not fitting a bigger screen with a proper sat nav display. When touring I like to see the layout of the road ahead, which turn by turn does not display. Met a bloke at the dealers who thought the same, he had a Tom Tom fitted to his 1200 gt pro. Another option would be to enable control of a stand alone sat nav from from the joystick controller, but in most cases once you set the destination that should be it. But that’s nit pickin. It’s a nice bike.

@mplus1338 2 года назад

On my Tiger 900 Rally Pro Evotech Performance have a solution that puts the Sat Nav exactly where the movable bar is. It perfectly positioned so you do not need to take your eyes off the road. I am sure they will develop something similar for the 1200.

@ezekieloliphant163 2 года назад

Tiger seems a nice bike, offering more grunt than my 800, but not cheap.. I’m smelling an awful lot of pot being smoked in cars these days too, wonder if they’ll come out with a camera for that too…or just more Police perhaps?

@SadaEKE 2 года назад

Tall heat sight :D That will never get old.

@MarkSmith-io3qd 2 года назад

I’ll be replacing my 2015 Tiger Explorer XC in 2025, and this’ll definitely be on my shopping list. Always try and keep my bikes for at least ten years.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

It;'s a huge improvement over the 2015 - you'll love it!

@daverose4789 2 года назад

I had a test ride on the 1200 GT Pro a couple of weeks ago and was very disappointed with the overall experience. The power and shove from the engine was fantastic but the show stopper were the vibrations from the T-plane. Horrible. They're excessive and a smoother engine is needed for the sort of mile people will be doing on this bike. I just don't understand why Triumph didn't put the 1200 from the Speed Triple in it or some thing like it. I think the new GS will blow away the Tiger 1200 when it comes out :-) Keep up the great content TMF.

@peterjfox69 2 года назад

My thoughts exactly, that new 1200 from the Speed Triple would have them flying out the door like hotcakes, missed a trick there In my opinion...

@daverose4789 2 года назад

@@peterjfox69 Glad you agree. I would have definitely bought a 1200 if it had a smoother engine. I'm looking at BMW now.

@peterjfox69 2 года назад

@@daverose4789I've been a Triumph Tiger rider for ten years. Had all three versions, brilliant bikes. I've been waiting a couple of years for the Tiger 1200 only to be disappointed with that daft engine. I have just bought a GSA! Exactly what Triumph didn't want...

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes I prefer the smoothness of a traditional triple too…

@Bowlin01 2 года назад

Good review as always Andy (not at all suprised at the conclusion 😂🤣😂), but are you going to get hold of the GT version, which as you say, may be more of your cup of tea?

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes - I'm getting one in September to compare....stay tuned!

@kyotosal 2 года назад

In my humble opinion, after listening to all your videos, I think you would be most happy with the Multistrada. I know I would be. Thank you for another good video.......Sal : )

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Certainly it would be in the running if I were ever to replace my GS.

@1TotalNoob 2 года назад

About fork dive: I test rode a GS, and the lack of fork dive when breaking into a corner FREAKED ME OUT! I could not FEEL the front and didn't like that at all. Why do people like non-fork-dive so much? How do you feel front grip, etc.? All that said, neither the GS nor this is my type of bike. I'm too weak to handle this much weight! Good work as per usual!

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Cheers Casper!

@a68war 2 года назад

Excellent quality vid in HD 1440p and 2160p HD, unfortunately RU-vid can't push it out fast enough it would seem! I seem to have good internet and on checking buffering it doesn't use all my bandwidth but buffers, seriously annoying even sometimes in 1080p. That 2160p is fantastic when actually streaming, passing trees with such quality. Nice bike as well, ha! Seriously, that joy stick button is not a problem when you own one, I have the Tiger 900GT Pro (did I say that, ha!) and what if you put the bike in sports mode, the suspenders will tighten:-)

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Thanks for that Andrew - I did wonder if the sport mode would stiffen things up a bit, I should have thought of that and wish I'd tried it....

@a68war 2 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer Guess it will still be bouncy like my 900 compared to GS. Laughing over bumps, steady when I stop if I can, just the way I guess and I prefer softer so put up with it. Had to stamp on brakes mid corner though and the 900 was so composed, a white van pulled out on me, doh!

@artisalltoes 2 года назад

Nice to hear 'hey kids" again, re-subscribed as a result. I'm a 70's bloke, so equally as quirky.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Welcome back Austin - I can't win either way with that one but on balance I got more complaints when I removed "Hey Kids!" than when I included it!!!

@Walkercolt1 2 года назад

Both of these bikes are far too heavy and too complex and have too much "stuff" on them to be serious dirt road or off-road bikes. People who buy these bike are like people who buy 4 WD pick-up and Land Rovers and Jeeps: 99.8% NEVER LEAVE THE PAVEMENT! I have a 1965 Honda 305 SuperHawk Scrambler I've taken places many full-blown enduro or even moto-cross bikes wouldn't go. No, I didn't go there at 40 MPH, I may have picked my way along at 5 or 10 MPH, but I GOT THERE without breaking parts! And I'm TRUELY street legal and can make 65 MPH or even 75 just fine. Do I wish it was 60 lbs lighter? Yup. Do I wish it had a 21" front wheel? Yup. Do I wish it was 450cc or even 500cc for the torque? Yup. Do I wish it had 21st Century suspension? YUP!!!

@stephenchapman8344 2 года назад

Great review. Totally agree with you in that it is not the GS destroyer . 😂 Look forward to your review of the new GS. Wonder if it will be a Triumph destroyer. 😂

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

I'm not a gambling man but......

@BcDano139 2 года назад

Too many choices!! Thanks for another great review.

@IanTed 2 года назад

Unfortunately after a lifetime of bikes and having had both a Tiger 1200 and three GS LCs including a GSA I’ve decided that the big ‘adventure’ bikes are for wealthy, tall poseurs who have partners that pack too much luggage😜. They are marketed for world travellers but they are far too heavy for that. I can afford another big adventure bike but I test rode the Multistrada V2S with a ‘mere’ 950cc 115hp engine and loved it, low seat height, plenty of performance and looks great. The Triumph GT PRO was a close second but was less sporty than the Multi so here I am still waiting for delivery, ordered at the end of March! Seems the V2 and V4 have long waits for delivery as proving very popular

@capz3217 2 года назад

Excellent choice. I've got the "old" 950 S and it's just great. I tried the 1250 GS before but I like the Ducati a lot more.

@lifesjourneyat50 2 года назад

Nice review as always….the one thing this bike doesn’t do well against the GS…is low and slow…when off-road. It stalls out compared to the GS when doing slow maneuvers….but outside that does a wonderful job…Triumph did a great job….it will be interesting when the New GS comes out and what improvements they make. BMW definitely has its work cut in their next upgrade to stay ahead of all this competition…..

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Totally agree

@Kpate1 10 месяцев назад

Took rally pro 1200 out at bike show, most comfortable seat at the show, great engine love the noise and it has lots of go. On backroads at Birmingham very agile easy got to scary speeds, seriously quick , love how you could jump on it and go. Quick shifter was good. Great do it all bike and has a heated seat for the other half , triumph think of everything. My first bike was a tiger 955 and loved it took it off-road all the time and fell off doing so TC great step forward and old tiger felt heavier

@markjones464 Год назад

After a GS BMW , it seems really Quick, just Scroll Down the setting and Adjust it By the sounds he has not worked Out , take a Breath and shut up I not going to go through the Screen I leave it to somebody Else ? I'll going to tell you how It Handles , You can adjust it Tighten the Forks , I owned one For a week and worked it out Comfort , normal and Sports

@thepeakybiker 2 года назад

For a 5’8 bloke Bike is too tall and to top heavy Good review though mukka taarrrrr

@richardwitherstone7396 2 года назад

Very very nice 👌🏻, the range rover of motorcycles im thinking? Resale value won't be anything like a BMW, horrendously expensive to put right out of warranty, won't see to many about after three year's just like a range rover? Will miraculously Dissappear ? I could be wrong, time will tell!

@michaelhoward142 2 года назад

The Triumph seems, to my eyes, more attractive than the Beemer (much slimmer, especially), though that could simply be because the GS' styling is becoming somewhat "long in the tooth" and has been copied so much. I had to smile when you mentioned being able to smell things while riding that car drivers are unaware of. My sister once didn't believe me when I casually said I could tell if the driver in front of me was smoking (a cigarette). Absolutely love every time your speedo goes blurry, though I can't imagine why that happens. ;)

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Cheers Michael!

@madmick6805 10 месяцев назад

Great review, few things I picked up on is, 1st the tappets sound loud on this bike unless its the microphone just picking it up, might not be as bad living with it, and 2nd I live in South Yorkshire and a lot of our roads are abysmal!, good in a not a good way it seems its a country wide thing, some of the roads you was on I can not help thinking it was a good job you was on a ADV bike.