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"Tim Duncan Was Harder To Guard Than Kevin Garnett" Kenyon Martin Breaks Down NBA Hall of Fame Class 

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Kenyon Martin battled two of the greatest power forwards in the NBA, and now hall of famers, Kevin Garnett and Tim Duncan. However, Kenyon Martin says he could manage KG, but Tim Duncan was his biggest challenge. Watch “No Chill with Gilbert Arenas” every Monday night at 8pm ET / PT on fuboTV or stream it FREE at fubosportsnetwork.com
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@austin78993
@austin78993 3 года назад
Duncan had Martin in foul trouble every game in that finals. Could not stop him and he was a good defender
@deez9805
@deez9805 3 года назад
He faced PRIMETIME Tim Duncan. Not just prime tim Duncan. But Tim Duncan at his physical and technical peak.
@Pimping9167
@Pimping9167 3 года назад
Rasheed can guard Duncan no problem lol
@TheIcemanthomas
@TheIcemanthomas 3 года назад
@@Pimping9167 cap
@Eboy227
@Eboy227 3 года назад
@@Pimping9167 super cap
@michael-paulware7330
@michael-paulware7330 3 года назад
@J F Duncan couldn't score on sheed in that series to be honest
@devinpace7529
@devinpace7529 Год назад
Look at those 2003 finals starts where he guarded him and that will tell you everything you need to know about Kenyon guarding tim. He never had shot at stopp8ng him
@abinezoldestboy1189
@abinezoldestboy1189 2 года назад
Got to sit behind him when the Big3 came to Milwaukee talked a little bit but was very cool S/O K-mart
@NoName-cn3cp
@NoName-cn3cp 2 года назад
How does Gilbert Arenas not have a mic on his own show? Lol
@yafiplaythatshi2943
@yafiplaythatshi2943 3 года назад
Why Gilbert look like the powerfoward now 😂
@Hellythep
@Hellythep 3 года назад
He does Mike Bibby workouts
@jacobiaplatt6764
@jacobiaplatt6764 3 года назад
Man....living good eating good 😂😂
@pandabear1576
@pandabear1576 3 года назад
I been thinking that same thing. Maybe it’s the camera angle but he looks way bigger than 6’3 on here all the time lol
@dellis4320
@dellis4320 3 года назад
I knew something looked wrong 😂😂😂
@tku1443
@tku1443 3 года назад
@@pandabear1576 them lil ass chairs 😆😆😆😆
@Hasan9t
@Hasan9t 3 года назад
K-Mart still playing hardnosed defense... every sentence he speaks, he cuts himself off.
@judahydennis
@judahydennis 3 года назад
Lmmfao bra chill 😂😂😂😂
@antoineflowers8594
@antoineflowers8594 3 года назад
naturally he has a stutter. so it takes an extreme amount of brain power to overcome it, hence the "cutoffs".
@parismccoy20
@parismccoy20 3 года назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭🤦🏿‍♂️ Boi you wild!!
@Lucilfer47
@Lucilfer47 3 года назад
STOP 🛑 ✋ 😂
@kingjofferyjoe3143
@kingjofferyjoe3143 3 года назад
This comment is🔥🔥💯💪😁
@edscottable
@edscottable 3 года назад
Tim was too big for that guy. KG was tall but he didn’t have quite the base that Tim had. Tim basically was a damn center.
@demhafdjh6324
@demhafdjh6324 3 года назад
He just Fundamentally sound
@JFLTX
@JFLTX 3 года назад
That's what also makes Shaq's comments on Tim Duncan not being a real big man even more dumb.
@stephaniewin9072
@stephaniewin9072 3 года назад
Tim ruin the NBA. He made big men hide and be PF. Made the NBA weak. Went from Barkley to bosh and Dirk
@lebronsburner5496
@lebronsburner5496 3 года назад
@@stephaniewin9072 i dont know those players u called weak are all champions and barkley who you call a real big even tho he is 6'5, is not.
@memcrew1
@memcrew1 3 года назад
@@lebronsburner5496 championships are a TEAM accomplishment.
@Maxjuliann
@Maxjuliann 3 года назад
Kenyon was a damn good player , the type of dude you wanted in the trenches with you
@juzealmighty8186
@juzealmighty8186 3 года назад
No question
@Mistachill
@Mistachill 3 года назад
Not to mention, Kenyon used to have a major stuttering problem. To hear him speak now shows how hard this dude works at everything he does.
@jdolo4670
@jdolo4670 3 года назад
Facts
@mashwork6615
@mashwork6615 3 года назад
If he didn’t have Jason Kidd he would’ve been the first number 1 pick to work in McDonald’s 3 years later
@clarkjonathan702
@clarkjonathan702 3 года назад
3-23 in the finals nah
@amirtz3342
@amirtz3342 3 года назад
Kenyon Martin was never appreciated as he should for his defense and effort that man was tough!
@lionelsheja6381
@lionelsheja6381 3 года назад
And he had BUNNIES
@dellis4320
@dellis4320 3 года назад
@@lionelsheja6381 bruh 😂😂😂
@lionelsheja6381
@lionelsheja6381 3 года назад
@@dellis4320 That's not what I meant 😂😂😂. I meant he could pull off a highlight reel dunk.
@dellis4320
@dellis4320 3 года назад
@@lionelsheja6381 oh he had hops 😂😂😂😂 How the hell you knew what I meant??? 🤔
@lionelsheja6381
@lionelsheja6381 3 года назад
@@dellis4320 your reaction?? 👀👀🙄😅
@hanglolo14
@hanglolo14 3 года назад
Man it is cool to hear big time players talk about their matchups vs legends. Martin was a damn good player in his prime.
@jaron312
@jaron312 3 года назад
Best in his crappy draft class for sure
@jbtreshawn
@jbtreshawn 3 года назад
@@jaron312 that might be the worst all time
@christophershanklin112
@christophershanklin112 3 года назад
Lol he was okay at best
@therealjayz8036
@therealjayz8036 3 года назад
I wouldn’t call Kmart a big time player. He was an above average player. He never averaged over 16 ppg only had a double digit rebound season once. In today’s league he’d be a poor man’s Al Horford, and I wouldn’t Al a big time player either
@hanglolo14
@hanglolo14 3 года назад
@@therealjayz8036 fair enough
@joep8830
@joep8830 3 года назад
This dude looks the exact same as he did when I last seen him play lol
@jameswilliams5400
@jameswilliams5400 3 года назад
Iui
@NexusFantismo
@NexusFantismo 3 года назад
Beige don’t Age
@chrisnunn7256
@chrisnunn7256 3 года назад
Black don’t crack my guy facts!!!
@eddiewallace3362
@eddiewallace3362 3 года назад
Really looks like he can still go!!
@missayawk
@missayawk 3 года назад
Dark skin always win.
@Dman4901
@Dman4901 3 года назад
Jason Kidd wasn’t the only reason the nets went back to back finals ..... Martin was that guy
@igraham125
@igraham125 3 года назад
Yep and Kmart Jefferson and kittles
@25Live
@25Live 3 года назад
Just played in a era where PF where Goated
@davidgilmore71
@davidgilmore71 3 года назад
Facts
@ShariaLawAllDay
@ShariaLawAllDay 2 года назад
If only Vince Carter joined them earlier.
@hustlengrind8833
@hustlengrind8833 Год назад
Those Kidd to Martin highlights were a sight to see.
@PushinP911
@PushinP911 3 года назад
According to Timmy Kenyon Martin is the best defender he played against
@B.Piercesports
@B.Piercesports 3 года назад
Rasheed Wallace could defend Tim
@jmoney9914
@jmoney9914 3 года назад
Kenyon was okay no rings no hall of fame
@HipHop-wj8yo
@HipHop-wj8yo 3 года назад
@@jmoney9914 rings are overated
@christianhenry4173
@christianhenry4173 3 года назад
@@HipHop-wj8yo not really ask Lucky shot Bob.
@NBaBall3r26
@NBaBall3r26 3 года назад
@@B.Piercesports yup i have seen it
@peskypesky
@peskypesky 3 года назад
As a Spurs fan, I know how good Kenyon was. He BATTLED.
@nbanba-ib8qy
@nbanba-ib8qy 3 года назад
Hell yea k-mart was str8
@markvirutiao8930
@markvirutiao8930 3 года назад
as a spurs I knew its bbq chicken when kmart was the opponent
@homoerectus744
@homoerectus744 2 года назад
He just seemed a little slight against many ,as a opposing team ,it was apparent against Detroit.many times him & even Reggie Miller always seem to have daylight but someone on Detroit would deny the shot....emphatically.
@peskypesky
@peskypesky 2 года назад
@King King Mutumbo and Collins
@riadanabtawi5880
@riadanabtawi5880 3 года назад
Duncan jumps once, twice, three times, four times defending the basket. While other defenders his height can only jump once or twice. Duncan was extremely fit and athletic in his defense. He can move in many directions so quickly. He was a good passer too.
@fanboy98
@fanboy98 3 года назад
Are you seriously trying to say Duncan was athletic? He was a decent player, definitely not athletic relative to NBA players.
@THE_BEAR_JEW
@THE_BEAR_JEW 3 года назад
@@fanboy98 you must not have followed Duncan’s career since the beginning. Duncan was incredibly athletic. Obviously later his career that went away but up until like 2007, he could move. Nobody is saying he’s Westbrook so chill.
@RodNubianKing
@RodNubianKing 3 года назад
@@fanboy98 2 time MVP in the regular season so yes he was athletic. Not to mention being drafted into the NBA in the first round.
@fanboy98
@fanboy98 3 года назад
@@THE_BEAR_JEW I watched him in college and as a rookie until his retirement. He sure didn’t look that athletic to me. Obviously relative to NBA players. An athletic big would be someone like his teammate, David Robinson.
@paulflores7026
@paulflores7026 3 года назад
I wouldn't necessary contribute the defense and jumping to his athleticism, he was called the big fundamental for a reason. Dude's footwork was immaculate. Bill Russel called him the best defender he'd ever seen!
@LuckyJackson2020
@LuckyJackson2020 2 года назад
Kevin Garnett averaged 20.4 points, 12.2 rebounds and 4.4 assists in 22 games versus Kenyon Martin in his career
@boogitybear2283
@boogitybear2283 3 года назад
Tim Duncan hands down the most underrated athlete not just basketball player but athlete to ever exist.
@airkuna
@airkuna Год назад
He's not underrated.. plus not a good athlete..unathletic as hell..
@Daroola415
@Daroola415 Год назад
Tim is only underrated as a ball player by non NBA fans. Any fan that actually followed the league back then knows that Tim was a silent assassin. He didn't talk trash. He wasn't a loud guy. He just got shit done on both sides of the court and won championships.
@kikaye38
@kikaye38 Год назад
​@@airkuna I take it you're a Clippers fan in the early 2000 😂 So many athletic beasts in the NBA who never had the brains, the IQ, the production and the accolade of Tim Duncan. Sports is about efficiency and output, athleticism can win you a slam dunk contest but it won't get you 5 championships and multiple MVPs.
@freddiebrock6740
@freddiebrock6740 3 года назад
He was hell at Cincinnati. He balled out in the nba. K.Martin was freakishly long. Great defender
@545047
@545047 3 года назад
Gil gotta bring Kwame onto the podcast now 😂
@howardbrammer4871
@howardbrammer4871 3 года назад
There is no way Gill will do that. Gilbert is a lover not a fighter.
@damarimoland1613
@damarimoland1613 3 года назад
@Raf why lol
@545047
@545047 3 года назад
@@damarimoland1613 just type in “Kwame Brown” on google and RU-vid and you’ll see why Lmaoo
@545047
@545047 3 года назад
@@howardbrammer4871 Gilbert has actually been trying to talk to him but Kwame ain’t having it 😂😂
@ericfreman3305
@ericfreman3305 3 года назад
I agree 😂😂😂
@bigkatspoker
@bigkatspoker 3 года назад
Kenyon didn’t get hurt in 2000 they were winning the NCAA with cincy. But my Spartans took it home.... I didn’t forget Kenyon.
@lamarmc
@lamarmc 3 года назад
Yeah you’re right, I remember that ugly break.
@carlossosa1359
@carlossosa1359 3 года назад
You own the Spartans talking about my
@mynamelildarryl71
@mynamelildarryl71 3 года назад
I remember that. They were the undisputed best team in college that year before he got hurt.
@blackmyth208
@blackmyth208 3 года назад
so sad mateen couldn't make it at the NBA level. He was a monster at STATE.
@Iceman-gm1fu
@Iceman-gm1fu 3 года назад
agreed. mateen was an all-time great leader in college. tbh, he was the reason MSU basketball became what it is today.
@Uberstrib
@Uberstrib 3 года назад
This man know Kg gave him work!
@Ejohns1004
@Ejohns1004 3 года назад
K-Mart is one of the most underrated defenders in history.
@mytowntrill5441
@mytowntrill5441 3 года назад
So why did he decline to guard Shaq in the 2002 Finals?
@Ejohns1004
@Ejohns1004 3 года назад
@@mytowntrill5441 Cause Shaq is Gigantic and K-Mart didn't play his position.
@CertifiedPG
@CertifiedPG 3 года назад
@@mytowntrill5441 How would he possibly defend Shaq?
@Spytube_1
@Spytube_1 3 года назад
Ain't that the truth
@Ejohns1004
@Ejohns1004 3 года назад
@KINGBLVD "neither did rodman" What? That's not a sentence.
@almoney2319
@almoney2319 3 года назад
This is 1 of the best basketball podcast the internet has to offer rite now its really for the fans
@JCMthebrand
@JCMthebrand 3 года назад
Not according to Kwame Brown lol
@dayonjohnson1882
@dayonjohnson1882 3 года назад
@@JCMthebrand I challenge you, to name one person who cares what Kwame Brown thinks
@adgee5401
@adgee5401 3 года назад
@@dayonjohnson1882 His mom. What I win?
@josephborderline
@josephborderline 3 года назад
@@adgee5401 A dinner with Kwame Brown. Congratulations! 🎉
@citi360
@citi360 3 года назад
@@JCMthebrand Becky with the good hair!
@timsmith1033
@timsmith1033 3 года назад
Kenyon also knew u could out muscle kg and force him into settling for long jumpers. TD was about 30-40 pounds heavier than kg and could not only take the physicality and had more in his bag than kg. Kenyon was one if the very rare players that could literally guard 1-5 at a high level. 1 of the most versatile defenders ever
@Trillbandok
@Trillbandok 2 года назад
40 pounds heavier than Garnett? 🤣
@JimLahey45
@JimLahey45 2 года назад
Kenyon could guard 5-3 guards would make him look silly
@mjwpowerstroke
@mjwpowerstroke 2 года назад
@@Trillbandok at least 30 lbs if not 40 lbs, when Tim first came in league, they said he was a solid 260. KG, came in at 217, but that was out of high school as we know. They listed him at 240 later on though, but like him being taller than 6-11, he was probably less than 240.
@younglove3362
@younglove3362 Год назад
Out muscling kg would backfire. First, he's athletic so he could counter it easily like Hakeem did with Shaq. Second, Garnett was strong. There's a reason he played pf and Center when he came of age. I doubt Kenyon Mart is beating KG in an arm wrestling match.
@Johan-zm8hj
@Johan-zm8hj Год назад
Funny they average the same point against Kmart thi
@21Invincible259
@21Invincible259 3 года назад
Early in his career Kenyon Martin use to have a really bad stuttering problem. I don’t know what therapy or medication he took but the improvement is amazing. Another example of what money can do
@demonNthesn0w
@demonNthesn0w 3 года назад
I had it too. Therapy and improving helped me out. Gotta get back to it tho
@BrokeMalone
@BrokeMalone 3 года назад
Doesn't take much money to search studdering tutorials on youtube
@IcemanFabian
@IcemanFabian 3 года назад
@@BrokeMalone that probably wasn't a thing back in the day
@TRELL3132
@TRELL3132 3 года назад
Money doesn’t help more like acknowledgment that you have the problem and getting therapy helps
@certifiedchaos4643
@certifiedchaos4643 3 года назад
Yea he’s come along way man for him to be in the media now that is definitely applaudable
@nothing563019
@nothing563019 3 года назад
LOL Kenyon was a pretty decent player but both KG and Duncan busted his ass regularly. He is talking as if he was neck and neck with them during the era. Stop
@NoSpinster0909
@NoSpinster0909 3 года назад
Where did you get your numbers from
@fkdonaldtrump7194
@fkdonaldtrump7194 3 года назад
@@NoSpinster0909 kg busy his ass on the regular, just look it up
@NoSpinster0909
@NoSpinster0909 3 года назад
@@fkdonaldtrump7194 I tried to I couldn’t find any information that’s why I asked,where did you find the numbers at
@peoplevsradio317
@peoplevsradio317 3 года назад
You must have not actually watched that era. Talking out of your ass
@peoplevsradio317
@peoplevsradio317 3 года назад
KG says himself Kenyon could stop him. Clearly KG thought he was neck and neck if he singled him out as one of the best defenders
@jonpoon3896
@jonpoon3896 3 года назад
J Kidd and K Mart were my favorite lob city
@m_js5709
@m_js5709 3 года назад
Vincanity was wild with that Nets team too. Even RJ was catching a few bodies with them. That was such an underrated team. The Pistons had their number though.
@kawaiiafangirl
@kawaiiafangirl 3 года назад
I started watching the NBA around the end of that era. Kidd to K-Mart was gold.
@slickeddy2000
@slickeddy2000 3 года назад
@@m_js5709 the Nets beat the Pistons in 02 & 03 the Pistons got Rasheed in 2004 that was the difference than people like Kenyon and others had contracts coming up so moves and trades had to be made
@m_js5709
@m_js5709 3 года назад
@@slickeddy2000 You right Nets beat Pistons bad especially in 03. Pistons needed Sheed to hit that next stride though and that put them over the top.. At least until Bron started knocking Detroit out the playoffs lol
@ericwright9649
@ericwright9649 3 года назад
2003 nets best NBA video game team EVER.
@ArcadianGenesis
@ArcadianGenesis 3 года назад
He *should* say Duncan after getting a quad-double dropped on his head in the '03 Finals.
@psa2016
@psa2016 3 года назад
For all the talk about game 6, peep his game 1. 32 pts, 20 rebs, 7 blks, 6 asts, 3 stls.
@mr.towler4780
@mr.towler4780 2 года назад
The way he described that match up is what makes the game special and also what's missing in todays brand of basketball. Being a great athlete is different than being a great basketball player and Tim was a great player. When the game is played at that level it's fun to play like Kenyon said but it's fun to watch.
@justinlevy274
@justinlevy274 2 года назад
watch jokic
@youllbeokay3428
@youllbeokay3428 3 года назад
What with the Mic/Audio ?
@Thizlamic
@Thizlamic 3 года назад
Rasheed gave them both PROBLEMS.....FACTS.
@psa2016
@psa2016 3 года назад
Rasheed who was outscored, outrebounded, outassisted, outblocked by TD somehow gave him problems?
@allengriggs8894
@allengriggs8894 Месяц назад
​@psa2016 😂😂 facts and Duncan has a way better record against Wallace and garnett
@blacksheep838
@blacksheep838 3 года назад
Why did he fire Rory from the JBP
@lamarwashington7093
@lamarwashington7093 3 года назад
💀😂
@studentofthegamenetworks824
@studentofthegamenetworks824 3 года назад
😂
@Ebdawinner
@Ebdawinner 3 года назад
joe budden would throw away all them amiri hats if he had that hairline
@krish5526
@krish5526 3 года назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@blacksheep838
@blacksheep838 3 года назад
@@Ebdawinner that’s too right
@chloeratchford4854
@chloeratchford4854 3 года назад
Adored Kenyon insight. Really respected his opinion cause he has battled both players. And at one point he was one best defensive players in the league.
@edwinglass7025
@edwinglass7025 3 года назад
Loved that nuggets squad with him Melo Iverson jr smith NENE....
@gregphillipsel9906
@gregphillipsel9906 3 года назад
If their big men could have been healthy for the playoffs it's no telling how far they would have went
@marcuseversley3334
@marcuseversley3334 3 года назад
Marcus Camby
@al5603
@al5603 3 года назад
As a Jersey native I have to salute Jason Kidd and Kenyon Martin for reaching those 2 finals with The Nets. I'm actually still pissed off at Byron Scott. The first finals against the Lakers the Nets had no chance, especially with Jason Collins guarding Shaq in the post. But the Nets could've beat the Spurs. The Nets had Dikembe Mutombo on the team, but Byron Scott had a personal issue with him and hardly played him. So instead of putting 7'1 Mutombo who was a known shot blocker and very clumsy on Tim Duncan and keeping him on Duncan until Mutombo fouled out, Byron Scott had Kenyon and 6'9 Aaron Williams guarding Duncan. Duncan was abusing Aaron Williams in the post and Scott still refused to put Mutombo on him. That was one of the most boneheaded coaching decisions that I've ever seen. It also didn't help that Richard Jefferson was ice cold on many important possessions. Salute to Jason Kidd though. That Nets fast break from those 2 finals years was must see tv.
@Dnero518
@Dnero518 2 года назад
Wow they had Mutombo during thst finals? I don't remember him ever being on that Kidd nets team. He wouldve been perfect to put on Tim. Averys a buffoon for that one.
@layuponthedownlow
@layuponthedownlow 2 года назад
Byron scott is a laker. New jersey should have declared him as a traitor
@LG-gc8zn
@LG-gc8zn 3 года назад
"Tim Duncan Was Harder To Guard Than Kevin Garnett"......well...Nobody doubted that !
@st4r444
@st4r444 3 года назад
I mean duncan has more weight and power In their prime Duncan 260lb Kg 240lb
@youngblood5391
@youngblood5391 2 года назад
kevin garnett averaged 20 pts, 12 reb and 4 assists against kenyon Martin all career long while Martin had 15 pts, 6,7 reb and 1,2 assist :)
@holdthetruthhostage
@holdthetruthhostage 3 года назад
K MART was the most dunk focused guy Ever man he wanted to dunk all day everyday
@Obstakill
@Obstakill 3 года назад
He was the number 1 pick for a reason.
@holdthetruthhostage
@holdthetruthhostage 3 года назад
@@Obstakill he was a viscous dunker man and his energy level was crazy
@MikeBrownLegend
@MikeBrownLegend 3 года назад
Dominique Wilkins had entered the chat
@Boseman7
@Boseman7 3 года назад
Naw...Shaq...lol....
@4tfbenjiglo63
@4tfbenjiglo63 3 года назад
Vince has entered the chat
@Artislife1992
@Artislife1992 3 года назад
K Mart was one of my favorite players back then. Along with AI, KG. Back when it was still a physical, intense, trash talking, fighting (sometimes) era. ‘Hip Hop Runs The World!’ 🔥💪🏾
@thefartist
@thefartist 3 года назад
Kenyon Martin is the Joe Budden of the NBA
@kingizzyblue1853
@kingizzyblue1853 3 года назад
This killed me 🤣🤣
@FireAngelChris
@FireAngelChris 3 года назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@plymkr25
@plymkr25 3 года назад
Facts 🎯🎯🎯
@feelgood5526
@feelgood5526 3 года назад
dont know if its a compliment or an insult😂
@kjthomas4553
@kjthomas4553 3 года назад
Lmao look like it 😂😂
@caseyjones815
@caseyjones815 3 года назад
and that’s why KMART WAS NOT PART OF THE HOF CLASS🤣🤣🤣🤣
@funkyfreshmess2107
@funkyfreshmess2107 2 года назад
Much respect! Love the break down of Martin praising Duncan’s game. Real recognize real.
@joelbreh3659
@joelbreh3659 3 года назад
Kenyon tried to guard kobe in 2009 wcf he got blazed bad
@Jayherbo23
@Jayherbo23 3 года назад
I mean Kobe Cooked everybody tho that’s not fair
@hardwoodthought1213
@hardwoodthought1213 3 года назад
Let’s not forget that in the infamous Quad double game, Duncan also held Kenyon Martin to one of the worst finals games ever, made him shoot 3-23
@clarkjonathan702
@clarkjonathan702 3 года назад
Kenyon was just a dunker & rebounder he couldn’t shoot
@hardwoodthought1213
@hardwoodthought1213 3 года назад
@@clarkjonathan702 It doesn’t matter what type of player he was he shot 13% in that game. Duncan is one of the 3 greatest defenders ever whilst also carrying the weakest offensive roster ever to a title in 03
@igz6388
@igz6388 3 года назад
BBQ Chicken!
@dcraneis2bad
@dcraneis2bad 3 года назад
@@hardwoodthought1213 Timmy was a great defender but top 3 stop it 😂😂
@hardwoodthought1213
@hardwoodthought1213 3 года назад
@@dcraneis2bad Most All-Defensive selections ever, 1 first team away from most first teams ever, led the league in defensive win shares 9 times, no other player led the league more than twice, was top 3 in defensive rating 14 times, had perfect positioning on Defense, was the best rin protector in the NBA for 15 years. Was the best defensive player on 5 title teams. How is it not possible he is top 3?
@ej11481
@ej11481 2 года назад
Real talk: KG (while a historically great defender) was more of a high-end role player on offense. This became clear in 2008, when Pierce was Boston's alpha dog during their title run.
@Goose21
@Goose21 2 года назад
For sure he was getting asked to score too much on ball in minni. Once he got to Boston and he could go all out on defence he was ridiculous
@raystaples9107
@raystaples9107 2 года назад
Man won MVP 03 season prime kg. Higher end role player boy stop, would Timmy have those rings if he wasn't with spurs his whole career,same Coach and system?
@ej11481
@ej11481 2 года назад
@@raystaples9107 KG won MVP in '04, not '03. And even then, he was deferring to Cassell and Sprewell in crunch time during the playoffs. He was a great 2-way player, but not at the level of a Duncan or Pierce as a go-to scorer.
@michaelbishop2561
@michaelbishop2561 2 года назад
@@ej11481 you are on crack .. go look at their careers if kg was drafted by the spurs he would be the best of all time im sorry … kg came from highschool and lead a team … Tim Duncan had pop his whole career as well as the admiral and hella of other hofs/ great role players to assist
@ej11481
@ej11481 2 года назад
@@michaelbishop2561 People like you are what suck about talking sports on social media. Fanboys who are bent on gassing up their favorite teams/players and get angry when anyone does anything besides give them unqualified praise. KG, like Pippen, is probably a top-25 all-time player thanks to his elite defense and versatility. But like Pippen, he wasn't an elite scorer and needed the help of one to win a title. Also, while Duncan got a lot of help during some of his championship runs, he flat-out carried the '03 Spurs to a title. The Admiral was well past his prime at that point, and TP and Manu hadn't yet reached their primes.
@dafranchise911
@dafranchise911 3 года назад
Kenyon was a Dawg he was a light skin KG but Timmy D owned them both with no style but plenty of grace lol
@pwimetime6687
@pwimetime6687 3 года назад
KG is a puppy according to K-Mart
@arizonaFIREent
@arizonaFIREent 3 года назад
@@pwimetime6687 kmart is a nobody compared to KG
@markpagtama7954
@markpagtama7954 3 года назад
@@arizonaFIREent kg is mighty overrated.
@AMDoss93
@AMDoss93 3 года назад
Never seen KG try that bully stuff with KMart lol he knew how to pick his battles
@clarkjonathan702
@clarkjonathan702 3 года назад
Still dropped 30-10 on him he was ass Kmart was average
@readytodie116
@readytodie116 3 года назад
He did. It worked too. Kg is in K marts head to this day. He's s always throwing shots at Kg. Kg always dogged him too and K mart was actually a great defender.
@bstrob2860
@bstrob2860 3 года назад
Y is ppl asking k mart there was better PF than him
@deesee2051
@deesee2051 3 года назад
KG was fake tough it’s video of him running backwards from McDyess 😂😂😂
@markbaque3633
@markbaque3633 3 года назад
Cause KG bullied Kmart by dropping a 25 and 10 on his ass every game they met. 🤣🤣
@robertwalker7979
@robertwalker7979 3 года назад
I'm going to take it one step further with the praise of Duncan. To me Kobe was NOT the best player of the last generation, it was Tim Duncan. It's just Kobe is more marketable than Duncan is🤷🏾‍♂️
@minato808
@minato808 3 года назад
And Shaq was more dominant than both of them.
@danielbelo7237
@danielbelo7237 3 года назад
What? 2008 Western Conference Finals is enough to say Kobe is the best of 2000s era
@robertwalker7979
@robertwalker7979 3 года назад
@@minato808 Shaq in his prime is the most dominant player of all time. Even b4 he died Kobe said if Shaq had his mentality that Shaq would have been the greatest player to ever play basketball
@rolliemosley
@rolliemosley 3 года назад
Duncan vs KG like Pac and Big it's only an comparsion in people heads. KG stats don't add up Duncan on no levels
@MrTknox19
@MrTknox19 3 года назад
Kenyon looks like a taller version of Joe Budden
@GTR24
@GTR24 3 года назад
I think KG's on-the-court trash talk got in the heads of these True Tough guys like Kmart and UD... Several yars after he retired, they're still salty about the on court collisions. Guys like Dirk and Duncan faced it too but they knew it was just in-game competitiveness. The tough guys who were ready to fight and risk 73 game suspensions are now exposing how emotionally soft they are to podcasts and reporters
@kg21bestpf94
@kg21bestpf94 3 года назад
Garnett used to shit all over Kenyon Lmao bro wtf is this clown talking about? Like how he said he kept KG below his scoring average? Kg actually averaged more against him lmao.
@Uberstrib
@Uberstrib 3 года назад
Right.,. This man is crazy
@lavelle3000
@lavelle3000 3 года назад
He never said anything about keeping KG under his scroring average you capping 🧢 he said they both were legends but tim was personally hard for him to guard
@kg21bestpf94
@kg21bestpf94 3 года назад
​@@lavelle3000 Was in the podcast were he said the puppy comment...KG averaged more points vs Martin and also averaged more points than Duncan had vs him...Think Kenyon be clout chasing to some degree...Prime KG was harder to guard than Duncan...Ask Karl Malone LoL
@samuraiphilosphic6187
@samuraiphilosphic6187 3 года назад
KG torched this man
@wc4201
@wc4201 3 года назад
Man I miss that era of basketball
@LYBism
@LYBism 3 года назад
Yeah, that era and the era before that one. This current era leaves much to be desired, and I do mean MUCH, at least in MY opinion. No one plays position. Everybody wants to be a ball-handler and/or a three-point shooter. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE to see a person who can do more than one thing on the court. It makes him a beast. But positions were created for a reason, and the game looks so beautiful when the positions work together PLEASE, let's get back to positional basketball?!!!
@Ninergang702
@Ninergang702 3 года назад
Tim don't get enough Love, ppl quick to call him greatest PF. Yet in my opinion he's one of the best players all around PERIOD
@Amaze1197
@Amaze1197 3 года назад
Love Kmart but man had a personal issue with KG biased a bit.. I think that KG was better than Duncan but many would argue against and it would be a valid argument. not to mention Duncan was more of a five than a four. KG played the SF when he entered the league.
@WillGYF
@WillGYF 3 года назад
Preach
@leokizzo3515
@leokizzo3515 3 года назад
Gilbert be looking 6’9 on the podcast
@piscessaga
@piscessaga 3 года назад
Anyone who thought kg and Duncan are on the same level of ‘greatness’ don’t know nothing about basketball… never watched the game… never even read the stat sheet. 🙄🙄
@SuperFlanky
@SuperFlanky 3 года назад
Fix the audio before releasing the full version Gil sound like he on the loud speaker 🔊
@sonnychibah2113
@sonnychibah2113 3 года назад
He sounds like he in a cave in another room
@brooklynzoo1838
@brooklynzoo1838 2 года назад
K mart was decent but he wasn’t like that kg & Duncan have him buckets why he never made an all defensive team I’ll wait
@alonreid
@alonreid 3 года назад
K-Mart & Sheed were 2 of the best defensive big men of that era, who didn't get recognized for their defense, bcuz it didn't show up on the stat sheet.
@bigzsakuragi6963
@bigzsakuragi6963 3 года назад
Your son is a high potential player, great father to have. Respect🤘🏻🙏
@carlpatrickragas2159
@carlpatrickragas2159 3 года назад
Timmy is a bad guy. Casual fan always bring up system brought championship to Timmy. It was the other way around. Pop made a system around Timmy's post up and passing. Plus his defense was anchored by him and Bowen with washed up Admiral. Timmy never backed down from any series. It was always him on offense and defense. KG was a talent but sometimes, fades out when needed the most.
@jayclark1551
@jayclark1551 3 года назад
Duncan is the best PF ever. Malone was close but I’ll take Tim and his resume all day.
@JP-jd8wr
@JP-jd8wr 3 года назад
Malone wasn't close. KG and Dirk both are better. So were Barkley and McHale
@Panther016
@Panther016 2 года назад
Asking former players which player was tougher to guard is like asking them which player they respect more. It's not always the truth that come out of their mouths.
@sergiocamacho8221
@sergiocamacho8221 3 года назад
Get Kwame on the pod. Tell em’ to stop being sensitive 😂
@mookshowdagoat1664
@mookshowdagoat1664 3 года назад
That man been through hell that ain’t being sensitive that’s standing up for himself!
@radoslawnowogorski5141
@radoslawnowogorski5141 3 года назад
And good hair Becky
@RafsanS15
@RafsanS15 3 года назад
imagine only remembered as a bonafide scrub...
@xxtooshiestyxx8756
@xxtooshiestyxx8756 3 года назад
@@mookshowdagoat1664 Facts... He roasted all they tap dancing ass into civil conversations lol... Podcast should be called *Ducking Smoke* 😂
@pgpro8691
@pgpro8691 3 года назад
Loved Kenyon Martin. One of the only guys I saw watching the playoffs that would pump up the crowd and then walk by and high five all the nobody’s in the front row. Love this guy in Denver.
@qceaz11
@qceaz11 3 года назад
Finally some respect for Timmy
@ThomasTheTankEngine22
@ThomasTheTankEngine22 3 года назад
And that's why he has five rings to KG's one
@IknowMoreThanYou
@IknowMoreThanYou 3 года назад
Incorrect. Tim was surrounded by hall of Famers and the best coach of all time his entire career.
@fmsstudio6316
@fmsstudio6316 3 года назад
Bull. Tim was drafted to a playoff team, David Robinson missed the 96-97 season with injury but the year before he was MVP and they were the number 1 seed. He had David Robinson, Sean Elliot Avery Johnson Mario Elie... Loaded with vets Duncan was drafted to a playoff team. The wolves were an expansion team they had jr Rider and we're awful kg took them from trash to the playoffs and conference finals. Duncan team were stacked he had David Robinson Manu ginobili tony Parker Stephen Jackson then they added Robert horry and Michael Finley. After fading they add kawhi leaonard. Kg gets with Paul and Ray and they instantly win
@readytodie116
@readytodie116 3 года назад
If Kg came up under Pop, was taken in by David Robinson, and played with the other hall of famers and great role players that Timmy had we would be saying even better things about Kg than Duncan. Kg is all around the best power forward to play the game.
@-.-1720
@-.-1720 3 года назад
@@readytodie116 You guys really need to stop with these what if BS. KG does not have the same skill set as Duncan. There is no way KG and Robinson gets by Shaq and Kobe twice. Only a dominant player could do that.
@him1019
@him1019 3 года назад
@@readytodie116 lmao you fucking wish. Duncan is one of the best all around big men of all time. KG aint shit compared to Duncan.
@halfwaydowntheroad
@halfwaydowntheroad 3 года назад
This is no surprise, Duncan's way better. 😂
@kadarbraxton4039
@kadarbraxton4039 3 года назад
Was thinking same thing. Who recommend this.
@lesss4067
@lesss4067 3 года назад
his battle with Jeremy Lin was probably the toughest tho
@royyeo2838
@royyeo2838 3 года назад
Timmy is way underrated and KG is way overrated. One speaks too little hence underrated, the only words speaks a lot hence make ppl thinks he greats. Look at stats, kg is way overrated
@JoseGomez-cg5bg
@JoseGomez-cg5bg 3 года назад
Kenyon was a badd dude!! Blessed with heart and talent.
@EricK-ir8np
@EricK-ir8np 3 года назад
Kenyon Martin gets on my NERVES!!!🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️
@drewcaraballo6883
@drewcaraballo6883 3 года назад
Him and b Roy were my favorite players growing up
@zerotolerance923
@zerotolerance923 2 года назад
Greatest era of power forwards. Timmy so underrated. I would take him over some of y'all greatest. He never played with another superstat
@reubenchestersaldua
@reubenchestersaldua 3 года назад
Funny that he couldn’t guard either one. But talks like he can.
@MrRockapoodle72
@MrRockapoodle72 6 месяцев назад
shouldve asked who was harder between Duncan KG and Dirk. Cause I think Dirk was probably way more frustrating for Kenyon to guard than KG, maybe Duncan
@wysefavor
@wysefavor 3 года назад
KG is just a rah rah guy, but Timmy is a quiet thinking guy.. NJ nets k-mart was a Beast!!!!
@JCT1926
@JCT1926 2 года назад
lol, Duncan went 24, 17, 5, 5blks 50% fg in the 2003 finals.... Also, that was an overall looooow scoring series with probably a really low pace: Only 1 game had a team score over 100 points. Whereas, Martin shot 34% from the field, rofl.
@stevenwhiters8928
@stevenwhiters8928 3 года назад
Lol it’s make sense Kenyon was an elite athlete Duncan sheer size and crisp fundamentals made it harder
@ryanr20091
@ryanr20091 3 года назад
yeah people keep calling him a power forward but he was bigger than all of them lol. just call him a big m an stop this power forward non sense it was annoying . those guys could not deal with him in the post he was either taller or heavier
@nostalgicbliss5547
@nostalgicbliss5547 3 года назад
@@ryanr20091 Yea dude was 6'11 and like 270. He was always built like a Center and played like one, especially on defense.
@trevb2311
@trevb2311 3 года назад
@@nostalgicbliss5547 Tim Duncan wasn’t no damn 270. That’s heavy as hell. He was usually around 250, by the end of his career I remembered he was talking about how he dropped down to 235 to take pressure off his knees.
@nostalgicbliss5547
@nostalgicbliss5547 3 года назад
@@trevb2311 Wade at his heaviest was 230 at 6'3. You want me to believe 6'11 Duncan with a massive frame was just 5 pounds heavier? Everyone carries their weight different, but there's no way Duncan was the light.
@marlowelocke3180
@marlowelocke3180 3 года назад
@@nostalgicbliss5547 Duncan was never 270 lol
@FMD023
@FMD023 9 месяцев назад
K mart should talk about the time Timmy torched him in the finals with almost a quad double and a sweep.
@zacharypeery4082
@zacharypeery4082 3 года назад
Cause Timmy had more overall skill over Garnett, Prime or not.
@markbaque3633
@markbaque3633 3 года назад
Nope. Overall SKILL?! Nope, ever saw timmy as a point forward? Ever saw timmy lead the spurs in assist? NO. TD had the better career, but not skill. Go see your facts. TD had the better team and organization but KG was better with overall skill. But nonetheless TD is the best PF of all time.
@WillGYF
@WillGYF 3 года назад
@@markbaque3633 exactly
@mannjayy
@mannjayy 3 года назад
Lol yea Tim was 5 masquerading as 4 lol K Mart was a actual 4 who could guard 5s. Tim & KG already kinda seen where the game was goin. Even playin with Shaq they knew they couldn't be him.
@robertriojas2639
@robertriojas2639 3 года назад
I’d easily take KG over tim Duncan 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
@Terminator879x11
@Terminator879x11 3 года назад
Good for you, and I'd pick Tim over KG. Guess it evens out lol
@robertriojas2639
@robertriojas2639 3 года назад
@@Terminator879x11 good for me? Thanks???
@natebaxter9551
@natebaxter9551 3 года назад
I didn't know you hated winning.
@robertriojas2639
@robertriojas2639 3 года назад
@@natebaxter9551 Tim had David Robinson, manu, Parker and coach pop… (amongst other good role players) of course winning was happening… KG didn’t get nearly that much help. No shade towards the big fundu but KG was more skilled
@natebaxter9551
@natebaxter9551 3 года назад
@@robertriojas2639 old David Robinson and a bunch of people you would never talk about if Duncan never existed. If Duncan and Garnett switched teams he'd have at least 2 rings.
@jeromewilliams591
@jeromewilliams591 5 месяцев назад
K MART was definitely tuff if you kept the ball low he was good at stripping the ball down low
@nellyville69
@nellyville69 3 года назад
Lowkey obi toppin could be the next k -Mart
@biggarah11
@biggarah11 3 года назад
Could be better!
@cranberryjuice2936
@cranberryjuice2936 3 года назад
Stop it 😂
@thehumblememphian8499
@thehumblememphian8499 3 года назад
As A Knicks Fan Not Defensively His Feet Too Slow
@vicshephard9231
@vicshephard9231 3 года назад
No
@Terry794
@Terry794 3 года назад
Not even close lol Kenyon Martin Jr is better than Obi 😂
@MrAllDay2u
@MrAllDay2u 2 года назад
Obviously, Tim's supporting cast was much better than KG's outside of a couple years in Boston. So, the quality help D for Tim was better and more prevalent. But, KG vs Kenyon in 22 games went. KG 20.4/12.2/4.4 Kenyon 15.0/6.7/1.7 And Tim vs Kenyon in 26 games went Tim 20.3/12.0/1.7 Kenyon 10.8/6.2/1.6 So, I think that a large part of what Kenyon was feeling was that his and KG's DAWG mindset were similar, so he didn't have to go anywhere else in his head to play him. Just try to meet his DAWGedness. While Tim's game plan and thought process was different, so it made him come out his A-typical shell. Which was harder.
@energyforsale
@energyforsale 3 года назад
Good ol days
@moety2
@moety2 3 года назад
And water is wet. Anyone who has watched Timmy and Garnet play know this without being told.
@royhollins4232
@royhollins4232 3 года назад
I commend you for even guarding either of those guys 👏
@beshertakin531
@beshertakin531 8 месяцев назад
Tim Duncan was a much better player than KG period.
@josecastro-ce1ph
@josecastro-ce1ph 3 года назад
What if Kmart never leave NJ?Then they get VC. Jkidd VC RJ KMart Kristic. Legit Contender
@marcus23fraser
@marcus23fraser 3 года назад
Cus they didn’t want to give Kmart 65 million
@Memphiz10Boi
@Memphiz10Boi 3 года назад
I think VC would've paired perfect with the Phoenix Suns with Nash, Marion, and Stoudemire
@bryan502004
@bryan502004 7 месяцев назад
Duncan put a historic series vs Kenyon. No match honestly.
@carlossilvestre280
@carlossilvestre280 3 года назад
Kwame ~ The Most Important People of the Century
@michaelangelosumang1617
@michaelangelosumang1617 2 года назад
Garnett is so overrated.His big mouth makes him what he is today:)
@edgonzalez5381
@edgonzalez5381 3 года назад
I'm so glad the Rockets picked up his son. Dude has been swatting 7 footer's shots to the stands.
@csutherlin7325
@csutherlin7325 3 года назад
Kg definitely destroyed Kenyon Martin
@vbeau28
@vbeau28 3 года назад
Gotta respect Kenyon for those comments 💯
@marksines1246
@marksines1246 3 года назад
As a grit and grind era fan of the grizzlies he gave fits to zbo on one series when kmart played with the clipps, aside from timmy, Kenyon made it tough as well for zbo in the paint, not easy to do😎
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