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Titanic Sinking: List to Port and Starboard 

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We've known for over a century that Titanic sank with a substantial Port list and initial Starboard list. But with the recent plethora of sinking animations being made in the past decade we've only just now been able to SEE this phenomenon occurring. In this video I break down the dynamics of the listing to try and help explain why the ship is visually listing from Starboard to Port as she sinks.
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@BravesFan13LF
@BravesFan13LF 2 года назад
This is one of the most realistic animations I’ve seen, the lighting and everything. Amazing work!
@Capt.SumTingWong
@Capt.SumTingWong 2 года назад
The evening out of the list along with the sudden “reversal” then re-dip that happened (basically the prelude to the final plunge) has always fascinated me. I always wonder what dynamics were at play in the bowels of the ship to cause such movement. Clearly it was around this time that Titanic lost its battle of buoyancy as the ships rate of sinking was vastly quicker than before, but that doesn’t explain that strange movement. If I had one wish it would be to be able to observe the actual sinking of the ship, just to know once and for all what actually happened and how it happened.
@ksp-crafter5907
@ksp-crafter5907 2 года назад
My theory of the sudden drop & short resurfacing before the last even faster sinking: One or more boilers, that were still under steam pressure and thus provided enormous buoyancy, snapped out of the anchorage that was riveted directly to the hull. This directly tore even larger holes in the bottom of the ship, through which further water could immediately rush in. The breakaway of the boilers, which immediately shot upward without restraint (temporarily neutralizing their buoyancy on the overall structure of the ship) along with the instantaneous rush of water shooting in through the newly created hull damage caused the Titanic to suddenly and noticeably drop. But this ended abruptly when the boiler(s) hit the ceiling of the boiler rooms (rather multi-story high halls), which shockingly lifted the overall structure of the ship again for a short time, only to go into the final plunge much faster than before, as even the buoyancy of the boilers could not win the battle of forces by the water shooting in!
@Bryzerse
@Bryzerse 2 года назад
Why would the boilers provide buoyancy? As far as I understand, the metal and pressurised steam would be denser than the air in that compartment, therefore weighing the ship down overall. Also, if the boilers were to break away, wouldn't the double bottom prevent any substantial amount of water from rushing in? And lastly, why would the boilers shoot up so high to hit the ceiling?
@KiwiKiwf
@KiwiKiwf 2 года назад
Very correct, the amount of people who include the lists in animations can be almost counted by hand, others just keep it on the even keel, it was very obvious that at some point the ship would have listed, as it is impossible for it to be at an even keel. There were also countless survivors that testified it, like you mentioned in the video, but the interesting part was the list even-ing out as the ship began it's final plunge, as something inside could have happened, either a bulkhead gave way, or an equalization in flooding.
@umi3017
@umi3017 2 года назад
As an aviation guy, it took me quite few minuets to realize List Port and Starboard means Left and Right BankAngle While many things in aviation actually inherited from naval, kind wonder why this is not the case
@DistractedGlobeGuy
@DistractedGlobeGuy Год назад
Because banking refers to manoeuvring procedure rather than the actual aerodynamic properties of the aircraft?
@peterkropotkin6224
@peterkropotkin6224 2 года назад
Isn't it possible that the sudden evening of the list might have led passengers to assume it was also rising? This would seem so especially if they were on the port side.
@Adamu98
@Adamu98 2 года назад
Yes that's certainly possible.
@DistractedGlobeGuy
@DistractedGlobeGuy Год назад
That's exactly what Kyle Hudak and the _Sea of Glass_ team have posited.
@peterkropotkin6224
@peterkropotkin6224 Год назад
@@DistractedGlobeGuy It would explain why people would have assumed the ship "rose" and then fell down again. The real puzzle I have is what caused the evening of the list if it actually did happen. Something had to give in the ship to cause the ship to reach its breaking point and finally sink. But what?
@DistractedGlobeGuy
@DistractedGlobeGuy Год назад
@@peterkropotkin6224 I think that would be due to the keel failing. Multiple forensic simulations have shown that the break-up had to start when the ship was at a relatively low angle, but numerous witnesses who were actually on the ship insist she reached a pretty high trim before giving out completely; Roy Mengot suggests that the break-up likely occurred in several stages. You could have the keel initially fracturing in several places around 1:05AM, allowing water to gush straight up into the aftmost boiler rooms and maybe even the main engine room (as reported by telegraphist Phillips), evening out the port list and also causing the last of the ship's remaining buoyancy to be sapped away much faster, until you hit 1:17AM, when the outer skin rips away and the superstructure collapses amidships. That would also explain the loud banging noises coming from somewhere directly below the third funnel (as reported by both trimmer Dillon and chief baker Joughin) several minutes before the ship actually came apart entirely.
@sockjim9016
@sockjim9016 2 года назад
Titanic really fought until the very end. It’s incredible that she managed to stay more or less upright so all the lifeboats could be launched; you’d think with damage like that the ship would just roll over and capsize, and yet the greatest list was only about 10 degrees.
@DistractedGlobeGuy
@DistractedGlobeGuy Год назад
The senior engineers were fighting to counterflood bilge tanks and keep the decks fairly close to level basically right up until the lights went out and the keel cleaved.
@lordfoxquaad1611
@lordfoxquaad1611 2 года назад
A 2021 research conducted by the Russian Titanic enthusiasts covered the topic of the flooding and listing by running a computer simulation of the flooding. It's explained there that neither the interior bulkhead collapse nor the vents on the deck would've caused such a dramatic port list evening at 2:15 AM. The first would've simply caused the water redistribution inside the ship but not the rapid increase of flooding. And the vents just weren't enough to cause this event to happen. What they came up with is that the only most likely cause for this could've been the cargo hatches 2 and 3. Suggesting that there were the air pockets remaining right underneath them, at 2:15 AM the wooden hatch covers might've collapsed, thus turning both cargo hatches 2 and 3 into huge, massive openings on the deck. With that, a sudden and massive surge of water inside the ship would've instantly evened the ship's port list out and triggered the entire final plunge event moments later.
@EpicJoshua314
@EpicJoshua314 2 года назад
To me, this seems the most likely explanation for the evening out. Survivors in the vicinity of Boat A and the bridge reported hearing several explosions deep within the ship as final plunge was about to begin (before the evening out) so that collapsing of the hatch covers is what they likely heard.
@christianborje7708
@christianborje7708 2 года назад
But it would of already been flooded, the cargo holds had plenty of time to fill up once the bow with submerged , even if it was not full it would be still flooded quit a lot
@TitanicAnimations
@TitanicAnimations 2 года назад
I didn't know about the Russian Titanic topic! But if you have a link to it I'd be very excited to read it!!!
@lucass.3389
@lucass.3389 Год назад
Is there a link for that research paper? I would love to look into it!
@Migfiney
@Migfiney 2 года назад
My birthday is April 14 and every night om my birthday I get major chills that remind me on titanic. Especially if I stay up late. Can't wait until the real time comes out because I'll be watching it all night!
@goldfing5898
@goldfing5898 2 года назад
Very detailed and informative. I had known of the Scotland Road design flaw before, and just recently learned about the Firemen's Passage, but didn't know that it played such a role at the first stages of the flooding, but it makes sense. Regarding the last phase and re-dip, maybe a large area at the mid or stern of the ship suddenly gave room and was flooded, so that there was sort of a counter-weight in the aft which partially compensated for the head going down? The ship was so large and complex, who knows.
@ZVdP
@ZVdP 2 года назад
The E-Deck graphic shown from 5:50 onward doesn't fully correspond to the testimony of Joseph Wheat who saw water trickling down to F-Deck at the base of the GSC coming from the starboard side. At this time Scotland road was still dry according to him. So there would have been a bit more water on the starboard side than shown here, most likely coming from the set of stairs leading down to the mail hold, which saw rapid initial flooding.
@mr_1970_lake
@mr_1970_lake Год назад
Yes, the port list started at approximately 1:30 am, at this time Turkish bath on E deck was flooded.
@MatteoRamaccioni84
@MatteoRamaccioni84 3 месяца назад
Also at 1:10 AM, one of the bunker's doors failed, flooding boiler room 5. Leading fireman Frederick Barret mentions that when he escaped the room and he reached scotland road he saw the water flooding the forward part of the corridor. The escape door of Boiler room 5 is about 60 feet aft from the door that leads to the E-deck level of the grand staircase. So we know that the water that Wheat saw was coming from the starboard first class corridor and not from Scotland Road.
@talkaboutwacky
@talkaboutwacky Год назад
Titanic Animations has the BEST real-time sinking of the Titanic on RU-vid
@singerspecial
@singerspecial 2 месяца назад
Your animation is INCREDIBLE!! Thank you!!!!
@NorthWestern1919
@NorthWestern1919 2 года назад
My personal theory as to why Titanic evened herself out during the final plunge is because of that giant, ugly-ass octopus from that one Italian animated film. (I'm sorry.) But in all seriousness, it really is amazing that despite listing considerably, Titanic still managed to stay on an even enough keel so that all of her lifeboats could be deployed. Albeit by unconventional methods in the case of Collapsibles A & B.
@HankHarvick3749
@HankHarvick3749 2 года назад
If I’m right, Scotland Road caused the ship to list to port super heavily, about 9.5 degrees
@Derek.Duquesne
@Derek.Duquesne 2 года назад
Plus they also left the gangway door open on that side
@HankHarvick3749
@HankHarvick3749 2 года назад
@@Derek.Duquesne caused it to list heavily as well
@GamePlayerZ1912
@GamePlayerZ1912 2 года назад
It was mainly the Scotland Road, the D-Deck Door didn't influence the port list as much.
@MatteoRamaccioni84
@MatteoRamaccioni84 3 месяца назад
@@GamePlayerZ1912 I think that the D-deck door is the reason why the ship reached that heavy port list. The time in which the list starts to worsen coincide with the time when the door starts too submerge.
@HankHarvick3749
@HankHarvick3749 2 года назад
I ever wondered about the 2.5 degree port list pre-collision
@TitanicAnimations
@TitanicAnimations 2 года назад
The 2.5 degree list to port prior to the collision is thought to have come from the shifting of coal during the voyage. It was common back then for small "coal fires" to start up in the coal bunkers of ships. Most people hear or see the word "fire" and immediately think of a house fire but that wasn't the case (unless it went untreated) it was more akin to what would happen if you were to BBQ outside on a grill with charcoal briquettes. They smolder. This smoldering was noticed as Titanic departed Southampton and began her voyage. Various shifts of firemen and stokers were sent to the bunker where the "fire" was located and began to remove all of the unaffected coal from that bunker and relocate it to others. I've never seen a document of where the coal was relocated to but most historians seem to agree that it was relocated to the port side of the ship. This didn't happen quickly though, it took until Saturday/Sunday for all the coal to be removed from the affected bunker and then damage assessment could be conducted. In other areas of the ship, a few passengers had begun to notice the list to port. To point out one specific passenger, 2nd Class Passenger Lawrence Beesley, he noted while sitting down at a meal service that if he looked out of the port windows he couldn't see the sky or horizon, only the ocean. But Mr. Beesley, when looking out of the starboard windows, noticed that he couldn't see the ocean or horizon, only the sky. He surmised that the Titanic must have developed a list but it was so unnoticeable that it must not have been serious enough to stop the voyage. He only noticed it from looking out the windows, not by feeling the decks shifting beneath his feet.
@WYZWYZ
@WYZWYZ 2 года назад
This is a very informative video, very easy to understand, keep up the great work!
@P0sitive_vibes_0nly
@P0sitive_vibes_0nly 2 года назад
This one makes sense, but I have a question, did the D deck gang way door made huge effect on the sinking?
@gothicthorn3
@gothicthorn3 2 года назад
I remember reading somewhere that it more or less doubled the rate of flooding. If so, this opening might have shortened her life by at least 30 minutes.
@MatteoRamaccioni84
@MatteoRamaccioni84 3 месяца назад
@@gothicthorn3 Also the door created a heavy port list.
@ArronP
@ArronP 2 года назад
explained what I always wanted to know about the portside list...
@caljucotcas
@caljucotcas 2 года назад
looks really nice! cant wait to see full video.
@TitanicAnimations
@TitanicAnimations 2 года назад
Now I'm nervous! Your animations are always a delight to watch.
@ccchhhrrriiisss100
@ccchhhrrriiisss100 2 года назад
Well done! This is a fantastic explanation of changing list that night!
@richatom71
@richatom71 2 года назад
Another brilliant and insightful episode .
@S.M.R
@S.M.R 2 года назад
Titanic's sinking was really one hell of a roller coaster.
@JealouseStatement
@JealouseStatement 2 года назад
Very well analysed and explained! Very noice work!
@TitanicAnimations
@TitanicAnimations 2 года назад
Thank you kindly!
@apathist04
@apathist04 2 года назад
Chief Baker Jougin was drinking water in the A deck bakery when he heard a loud noise of metal wrenching below him. He also heard a rush of passengers above him running aft on the boat deck. This seems to correspond with Archibald Gracie’s testimony of a rush of humanity coming up from somewhere below, while he was at collapsible A. This was around the time he and others were washed over by the wave. I wonder if the metal tearing sound and the wave are related
@DistractedGlobeGuy
@DistractedGlobeGuy Год назад
I'd be pretty confident saying so-it also corresponds well with Patrick Dillon's testimony that water began gushing up from beneath the stokehold plates in the aft compartments, and with Roy Mengot's analysis that suggests that the keel failed in several stages rather than all at once.
@michaelmcdonnell3905
@michaelmcdonnell3905 2 года назад
Sea saw motion as said in On A Sea Of Glass.
@jPod07
@jPod07 2 года назад
It was described by several survivors who were still on board the ship.
@gagalover2k10
@gagalover2k10 2 года назад
Loved this, I never get tired of learning about Titanic, I’d love to become a member but I can’t for some reason 😔
@TitanicAnimations
@TitanicAnimations 2 года назад
RU-vid is weird. You're an active person on the channel though! :) Since June they haven't let me advertise merchandise either, with no word from their support staff as to why. I think when they updated the website last it threw everything into a fluke state.
@MetanoiaAm
@MetanoiaAm Год назад
Interesting video, just what I was looking for. Probably won't respond, but here is my two American cents..... Is it possible that where the ship broke in half, that the bottom started to fail before the rest broke apart. Titanic took a rather long time to sink, long enough that the front end was heavily inundated with water, while the back was not. What I'm suggesting, is that as the bow filled, the downward force of the water that caused the ship to start to pivot, raising the stern into the air, was exerting enough of a downward force on the ship to cause a small but gradually increasing bowing of the ships hull. Meaning that one point, to the naked eye it may not have been noticeable, but Titanic started to take on a slight banana shape, with the outer most bend being the essentially the point in the water where the stern and bow meet. So, Titanic is sinking, listing to port. However she struck on her starboard side. Perhaps enough damage was done during the initial hit, perhaps more damage to the side or bottom was done than we know, perhaps its just more bad luck. But Titanic sinks lower and lower. Snap. under the water on the starboard side, perhaps even in damaged areas of the outer hull that hadn't initially let in water, Titanic's hull ruptures. New water rushes into any hole it can find in the new opening leading to both the bow and stern. The force of the break, plus the water has two effects. The first is that the force of the break downward and the sudden rush in of new water, pulls the whole ship with it, causing the mentioned large though apparently momentary drop of several feet. Next, again the combined forces of the break downward and the rush in of new water, momentarily intensify the bowing of the ship, like a banana, that I mentioned before. This wouldn't be noticeable in the stern, as this is also when the ship is doing its momentary drop of several feet, or closely after, so the stern is just perceived as sinking "normally". The bow, however, is through these new forces acting on the area of the break, is pulled down strongly by the back, downward at the break/pivot point at the back of the bow, and upward at the front of the bow. Now, the energetic force of the break subsides, but water continues to rush in from the new breach, i quickly fills the starboard side, fixing the port list, as well as drastically increasing the rate of sinking, leading to Titanic's "final plunge" and further/complete break up. What do you think? Plausible? Impossible?
@runar4731
@runar4731 2 года назад
The sudden movement of the ship in the end, could it have been a boiler explosion maybe? As several boilers were still in pressure.
@CJODell12
@CJODell12 2 года назад
Is it possible that the coal fire actually kept the ship from sinking so quickly and possibly capsizing because of the 600 tons of coal being moved from starboard to port. Because we know that the coal fire didn’t cause her to sink.
@TitanicAnimations
@TitanicAnimations 2 года назад
I've seen some sources say that, but I'm not verse enough in the dynamics to state such a thing. But it's certainly thought provoking thing to ponder!
@CJODell12
@CJODell12 2 года назад
@@TitanicAnimations Because some still claim it was the coal fire that weakened her steel causing her to sink.
@itskaratemaster
@itskaratemaster 2 года назад
Great video! I think that the listing back from port to starboard might have given some accounts the illusion that the ship raised out of the water slightly or, maybe there was a huge spill over with a bulkhead towards the middle that caused the forward sinking to even out slightly ? It’s hard to know since we can only theorize..
@TitanicAnimations
@TitanicAnimations 2 года назад
Thats the weird thing though, most of the accounts of the "raising" just before the plunge started were from people still on the ship that managed to survive. Virtually everyone in the lifeboats didn't mention it, only that the ship, "continued going down until her lights snapped out, she split, then sank." Contrary to both official inquiries, a very good amount of those in the boats did actually see the ship split apart.
@DistractedGlobeGuy
@DistractedGlobeGuy Год назад
@@TitanicAnimations that sounds almost like they could have misinterpreted a brief slowing of her descent-like an inverse of how passengers on a plane sometimes feel like they're falling when in fact they're still climbing, just at a shallower angle of attack: their proprioceptors detect the deceleration along the vertical axis, but they don't have the scale to accurately interpret how extreme it is, so they feel momentarily weightless.
@Oxidinite
@Oxidinite 2 года назад
Really cool
@corde6180
@corde6180 2 года назад
What if the sudden evening of the list was not caused by interior flooding but by the movements of people up on deck. Lightoller at some point ordered passengers to go over to the starboard side to even the port list. He said that for some time it worked, but the list returned. Imagine 200+ people waiting on the port side for collapsible B. Seeing that it landed upside down they would rush over to the starboard side in hope to get into another lifeboat. Gracie reported that just before the plunge mass of people appeared on deck near the gymnasium and prevented anyone from going aft.
@thinmanpaul
@thinmanpaul Год назад
Hey, awesome visuals, as always. :D Question: Does you're model on CGTrader come with lighting? Cheers!
@Nomulus64
@Nomulus64 2 года назад
Did the band play on the starboard side by the gymnasium by around 2 am when they headed outside??? Because by that time more passengers were residing there due to her list to port
@jPod07
@jPod07 2 года назад
Yes, they did.
@Nomulus64
@Nomulus64 2 года назад
@@jPod07 well then that would make a lot of sense due to their motive was for passengers to hear them
@MatteoRamaccioni84
@MatteoRamaccioni84 3 месяца назад
@@jPod07 But how do you know?
@OceanChannelProductions
@OceanChannelProductions 2 года назад
wow
@heltinpapelo6642
@heltinpapelo6642 Год назад
Hello! I was looking at a deckplan of the tank top of the titanic. I have a question, why didn't water flow from the starboard sides of the no. 2 and 3 holds into the vestibule on the aft of the Fireman's passage, considering that the doors from the holds leading there weren't watertight? Also, once the water reached that area, shouldn't the port side begin flooding as well, thus the titanic not getting a starboard list? Also, I guess the reason the Titanic took rather long to eliminate the initial starboard list is that while water did begin pouring over the Fireman's passage into the port side, the pooling of water on the starboard side made flooding of the port side slower in general. Is that correct?
@Robot-fi6gs
@Robot-fi6gs 2 года назад
My theory lol
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