Tongues & Prophecy: Why I Walked Away | with Kofi Adu-Boahen 

When I was attending the Pentecostal Church. I was never taught how to read the Bible there was no Biblical Teaching mostly just showing up to a Theater looking for a show carrying a book that I never opened .

I too am a recovering Pentecostal! I have 3 estranged daughters who won’t forgive because of their upbringing. They are apart of this ugly “woke” culture. But I have a BIG GOD! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 I loved listening to these men! So Good! ♥️

The frustration and never ending striving discussion really hit home. I was raised in Word of Faith home, and this ultimately caused me to move further away from God and from salvation. The Christian "life" was presented as this never ending pursuit of magic tricks. Every sermon in some way dealt with what you could be pursuing that you are not, and why you are failing at what you are pursuing. Basically "how do I get my magic wand to work?" Clench your face harder, grit your teeth, and raise your voice to "conjure" more faith somehow. Just awful stuff. (Ie. Copeland talking to Covid19). Most frustrating was this teaching of filtering you daily stream of human thoughts to separate Gods voice from your own. The reason you don't hear from God is because you aren't listening. So now every moment of personal introspection is a possible divine revelation that must be examined. Lives were wrecked and faith shipwrecked over this. In 1984, my father abandoned his profession and training to move us across the country "on faith" that God had called him to be a Christian actor with CBN. All these prophecies were put on his life and affirmed by others. I was torn from a loving, nurturing "non charismatic" church family, and a stable household in my father's pursuit of God's voice in his head. Not a crazy person. A PhD chemist. It was a disaster. We were flung into poverty. As a middle schooler, my life and self worth were turned upside down. I thought it was my fault. I was the Jonah letting the family down w not enough faith. I went from an A student to failing. It was all humiliating. By high school, I was suicidal. I had no interest in church, and God became a rubix cube I couldn't solve, so I quit considering God altogether. I kept a belief that God was real, but too complicated and risky to deal with. Sin was the easy alternative. My mother contracted autoimmune diseases, and her faith never healed her. She suffered terribly, 25 years, and then died of cancer in 2019. I was unable to have meaningful end of life conversations with her because that would cause her to admit her condition, which was a lack of faith that she would be healed. After she died, my Dad said it was because she lacked faith. The blindness and lack of self awareness remains staggering to this day. My Dad has devoted 40 years of his life to this nonsense doctrine, with nothing to show for it. No health, no wealth, and even worse....he's learned nothing. He's never looked back over his life and realized that everything happened exactly in the way you might expect it to if you made choices out of secular stupidity rather than God's voice in your head. Nothing miraculous came to pass. No promises were kept. There was one illuminating moment at a funeral when Dad was sharing Word of Faith w a distant cousin. The retort was "but that never worked out for you did it?" He came away hurt by the comment, but never saw the truth in the comment. At 78, he lives alone as a widower. He has no hobbies or interests at all. He spends his time walking around the house talking in "tongues" . Consulting God in everything from what to eat for breakfast to what color shirt to wear He still attends a WoF church STILL trying to work out the right elixir to release the power. Again, this is not a mentally ill person. WoF is so dangerous and absolute poison. It's all so heart breaking.

Kofi just gave a sermon at my church. It's a blessing to see him here! Small world

It’s been a pleasure watching Kofi grow over the years. 15 or so years ago I mailed him a copy of Calvin’s Institutes. Based on some of his writings at the time, I knew he would become a pastor.

Excellent discussion. I really enjoyed it. I was also raised in the pentecostal and charismatic background. Most of the churches here in Ghana 🇬🇭🔥 are largely engrossed in the word of faith prosperity gospel movement which is a hyper offshoot of the pentecostal and charismatic movement. I am always grieved by it. But I am thankful for sound teaching that is spreading here which is largely through the internet and it has been encouraging. Much love from your reformed brother in Christ from Ghana. Soli Deo Gloria.

I have been in assemblies of charismatics who were speaking in tongues. At a time in my Christian faith life when I had been desiring the gift *if it was real* and was seriously praying for the Holy Spirit's guidance in understanding what the Bible teaches about tongues and hours deep in my study of what the Bible says about them, in one assembly where a dozen people around me were 'speaking in tongues' I prayed at the level of a whisper what wouldn't be heard by others, that "the Holy Spirit would silence any voices that were not of God," and the voices around me stopped almost immediately. Coincidence? I don't believe so, but I wasn't positive. To test it, on another such occasion, I did the same, and they immediately stopped. I took this as a confirmation of my first experience to be a result of my prayers, and not just coincidences. This effectively settled the issue for me. I no longer asked for the gift, but I dove in even deeper in studying the issue. Today, I am a cessationist, having studied what God's word says about those gifts, which I now understand to have been specifically granted during the apostolic age for the purpose of ministry to a new and developing community of believers and as a sign for the Jews to verify that those early Christians were led by God's Holy Spirit. Thus, I am left in a position where logic dictates that, if someone is speaking in another tongue, it will be a known, existing language being used specifically to "tell of the wonderful works of God" (the gospel message) to someone of another existing, known language... but I know of no verified instances of this occurring in any assembly I've ever been part of over decades, and I've heard of no verified instances elsewhere. Can God do something miraculous? Certainly, and I've seen that he is always doing miracles in our lives. But rattling tongues of gibberish isn't God's work. That means, logically, either someone is doing that babbling of their own will and work... or it's the work of a demon. I fear for the souls of those who babble gibberish - either it's demonic, or they are blaspheming the Holy Spirit by calling what they are doing "good" and "of the Holy Spirit" when it is actually not. "Woe unto them." Isaiah 5:20

The gifts of the Spirit have operated all through church history.

The Word of God must be our first and last call: context, context, context. Sola Scriptura. Excellent interview BTW :)

I was so blessed by this conversation. So much Scripture and so much brotherly love as well as witnessing to the sufficiency of God’s breathed out Word for us.

This was the best. This story of this also coming through a woman is meaningful to me too. I also was raised in the "Jesus Revolution." I was a Jesus freak in the 70's.

Speaking in tongues is absolutely part of Christianity. If it weren't there wouldn't be so much about it in the bible. It's when the Holy Ghost fell.

Awesome.

This is great. This gift is not for any notoriety or self glorification. But from messages between the LORD, the Speaker, & Receiver(s). Most likely the speaker, knows not the language, but the receiver(s) hear their own recognized language. BIBLICAL FACT! "BEWARE LESS WE BE DECIEVED!"

I have done the opposite after 27 years as an Orthodox Presbyterian. I am now at an Assembly of God for worship and as God calls. I can relate to your life stories, both of you. My issue with the reformed faith is fruit. The reformed do a lot of watering and cultivating, but not much harvesting.

I came to faith in a Foursquare fellowship and was initially enamored with "signs and wonders" theology as promoted by C. Peter Wagner, John Wimber, and the Vineyard movement. But I also love to study and have a passion for biblical truth, which invariably led me toward the Reformed tradition. I've gone from a pessimistic eschatology to one in which Christ is very much ruling and reigning.

The final nails in my Pentecostal coffin were: 1. Discovering that "frozen chosen" (i.e., not spirit-filled) believers were perfectly capable of living holy lives in service to God without the benefits of the so-called "second blessing". 2. The shocking lack of contrition demonstrated by modern 'prophets' when their prophetic words or decrees were demonstrably proven to be false.

Glad this came up in my feed. A great conversation that clarified several things for me. Thank you both very much.

Even though we don't have time to rest we can rest in Him while we work

Thank you for this discussion, one of the best I’ve heard

This is an excellent discussion ! Thank you for this dialog.

This is the 2nd time an interview with Kofi has come up on my playlist. I'm glad for it, him, and Joel. Keep speaking the truth in love brothers!

I was raised Pentecostal also around 18 to convert to Living Waters after what were clearly violation of biblical law. Only much later to learn about its roots extra biblical. But his rod and his staff they do comfort me and his word is sufficient better we study it ourselves than to receive it from another who may be false

Beware of people and positions that use lengthy and wordy philosophical narratives to bring you to conclusions which run directly counter to the plain sense of the actual text of scripture. The NT explicitly commands us to "pursue spiritual gifts' especially to prophesy," "pursue prophecy, and do not forbid to speak in tongues," "Do not quench the Spirit, do not despise prophecy but test all things." There is not a whisper of clear language telling us to no longer obey these commands of God.

Thr evidence is what doesn't come out of ones mouth. And by LOVING words being spoken. Let the lord lead our path. I was brought up in this peticostal and now understand it as koondilini

I pray in tongues and don't experience other of the gifts and I am at rest in Christ.

This is one awesome conversation. Every Christian needs to listen to it

This was such a insightful discussion and biblically supported. Thank you & God bless!🙏❤️🕊️

1:27:38 - 1:28:04 Beautiful!! Comforting! Encouraging!

ive know about Kofi a lot longer then discovering Joel . so he definitely isn't a nobody

No prophets n apostles exist in today's dispensation of grace

Great episode, gentlemen.

I love the Lord but always feel I am not measuring up to where I'm supposed to be... I get so discouraged in my walk. I try to learn more and more but it feels like the goal post is always being moved. A constant state of disappointment with myself in my walk. Love this discussion so much.

These gift of tongues incidents usually, from actual cases i have heard of, when the listener(s) are found far from home, or among foreignors to their language. Now this makes more sense. Just like in Book of ACTS.

Great Convo Pastor Joel…..I too came out of Pentecostalism, Praise The Lord!!……on a side note….I was unaware you knew Dragonball Z!! What is this conspiracy, 😂😆….You said Super Saiyan!! Kamehameha!!! Really enjoyed this! Thank you Pastor and Kofi. God bless you both and your ministry!

I my church there are three that speak in tongues. We have discussed this and know that it is a spiritual conversation with one and God. Not done in church because we have no one to interpret. This is Paul’s statement as well.

Excellent!

Wonderful. I hope he can come back again.

Great topic! Thanks!

Why are tongues only in the charismatic circles? That right there is a bad sign.

This was terrific!

The pattern of the process of salvation is given to us in the Tabernacle. A person can experience all of tge steps instantly or progressively.

Appreciated the interview. Quite a bit of ground covered. I first wrestled with this 30 years ago and continue to 'suffer' from impacts of the 'misguided pentecostal teaching". The misguided teaching has robbed my marriage of any hope of 'oneness' in the relationship. It is very divisive. I hold to the scriptural understanding that was outlined in the interview. Disappointed that the following question was never really unpacked: tongues, as taught in the bible, are other languages. What, then, is being babbled by the so called 'baptized'? It would have been nice to ask Kofi "what do you think you were doing/saying when you were convinced you were speaking in tongues?

Great interview.

That redemptive explanation was AWESOME 🙌🏼 can this be found in that book mentioned by Peter Masters?

Has anyone ever seen a church test the spirits whether or not it is the Holy Spirit?

I went to a charismatic church and had no issues with doctrine or teaching. All the gifts were present as well.

Hey pastor Joel! I appreciate your ministry and am an avid listener of guys like you and Doug Wilson. So blessings first of all! I’m kind of the opposite of your story - I came from a reformed presby/baptist background but unexpectedly experienced ecstatic glossolalic tongues in prayer. I know many others who have similar unsolicited experiences who have even questioned this phenomenon in light of scriptures to figure out how to weigh it, though they intuitively felt edified by it. This is where I appreciate Lloyd Jones’ exegetical position and critique of warfield’s cessationism, though I am open to being convinced by the best biblical data over my psyche. As for prophecy/words of knowledge, I think it’s important to take into account the forgotten accounts of the reformed tradition - like Richard Knill’s prophecy over Charles Spurgeon when he was a child, spurgeon’s many words of knowledge of listeners’ secret sin from the pulpit, or even modern reformed Baptist guys like Albert N Martin/Paul washer being known for strangely accurate words of knowledge about people or prophetic predictions of the future. Washer attests to a Christian man recently sitting him down and telling him everything wrong in his life and ministry over the last few years and leading him to deep repentance. Now these men in particular don’t use charismatic theological vernacular like Piper, Lloyd Jones or Grudem might, but they do preserve and attempt to integrate the truth of these extraordinary experiences as edifying or providential within their theological frameworks (calling it “light unto feet” or “Quaker-like impressions”). In Christian institutes, Calvin posited: “[apostles and prophets...] were not established in the church as permanent ones, but only for that time during which churches were to be erected where none existed before, or where they were to be carried over from Moses to Christ. Still, I do not deny that the Lord has sometimes at a later period raised up apostles [...] as has happened in our own [Reformation] day.” Calvin was the original C Peter Wagner! That’s tongue in cheek, but it does open up interesting discussion. For a cessationist-favoring scholarly work that integrate these widespread occurrences/phenomena, you should check out garnet Howard Milne’s “the WCF and the cessation of special revelation.” On the charismatic side, check out Jon mark ruthven’s “on the cessation of the charismatic” or “what is wrong with Protestant theology.” My prayer is that you and other pastors from across the theological spectrum would adhere to James 3:1 with reverence and God’s wisdom as we handle these matters. God bless!!

I truly want to know this answer. How do you know that we aren't supposed to eagerly desire prophecy? Or the gifts of the spirit? What verses led you both to that conclusion? I am part of the AOG currently, my family started out Baptist when I was a child, then to Foursquare and AOG in my early 20's til now. I want to understand your perspective on these types of scriptures. If I am wrong I am fine being told so. The longer I live and the more I watch the behaviors in AOG with my own pastor, people in the hyper-charismatics, NAR movement, the more appalled I become. Anyway, just wanted clarification. Thank you.

I appreciate the way both of you have spoken the truth without using too many words. Just spot on. Thank you and stay blessed.

When did the original disciples receive their justification? When did they experience the baptism in the Holy Spirit? They were two different experiences for them. Means it is possible that way for others today.

What an excellent interview, Joel! I grew up in the 60’s in an AG church. I am thankful that I did hear the gospel and became saved, but there was no rest in Christ. I was always seeking “more.” I was also always trying to adhere to a strict standard of behavior that boiled down to no drinking, smoking, dancing, movies, or cards. The burden on me was overwhelming. I am so thankful for bringing me out of this movement.

Never saw tongues of fire over anyone's head (in COG Cleveland). What happened to the tongues of fire?

This has been a great discussion. I grew up Pentecostal in Newfoundland, Canada. I now live in Alberta, and thankfully God has lead me out of this denomination and into a wonderful Baptist church. I understand reformed theology, but I have a hard time trying to explain to family and friends there, that we grew up with lots of scripture taken out of context. They continue to quote (twisted) scripture to me about speaking in tongues, baptism of the Holy Spirit, the heavenly prayer language, etc. They are a tough bunch to discuss biblical truth with. Also, Newfoundland is made up of many tiny towns and there are not many (none practically) solid churches in this province, that teach sound theology. I often say that Newfoundland needs missionaries!! There is an amazing Baptist Church in Newfoundland’s only city, and they are doing church plants in small communities. Praise the Lord for this, because it is much needed in that province. I’m sure they are running up against the Pentecostals, but we know that Jesus will build His church!

Justin Peters just did a great documentary on the history of the Pentecostal movement. The amount of shady characters involved in this movement since the 1700s should be warning enough that something is up. Prior to the 1700s no biblically Christian sect did any speaking in tongues or shaking and falling on the ground that I know of. The Shakers were apparently the 1st in America to do this stuff. Prior to that any of this type of activity is related to Hinduism, and other eastern religions and occult practices. Speaking in tongues in the Bible was an actual real language that others could understand, not just a bunch of incoherent babbling you force yourself to do until it "feels" real. I have never felt like a bigger moron than the time i was told to just start talking in tongues and it would come to me. If it is truly of the spirit why do I need to force myself to start talking like this in order to make it happen? Of course, at the time, I was told that it was "the enemy", trying to make me feel weird so I wouldn't continue. No. it was my sound mind that God game me telling me something was off.

that was great! I could relate to everything that was said. The PTSD is real haha

Tongues and Prophecy are for today and very very important The Lord speaks In Prophecy and it’s for us to know What God is doing and to warn us of things to come and all Prophetic is in Part, The Word of God Clearly tells us what the tongue’s are for… we have both tongues for our prayer Language and for a Message that is interpreted by another with the gift of interpretation, This is the word of God to be Baptized in the Holy Ghost and receive Power and to be able to overcome and Cast out demons Lay hands on the sick and see them Healed, And Prophecy is Crucial for this day time and hour! Jesus said Greater works shall ye do once that the Holy Ghost is Come Upon you!!!!

I have a question and I hope it gets answered. First of all, thank you for this discussion, it was edifying. It confirmed things I already believed, and taught me things I did not necessarily know. Just so you know, I have left my Pentecostal church after four years because simply put…I could not speak in tongue. My question is this… If Jesus was born full of the Holy Spirit, then what happened at his baptism? Could you consider that to be a second event?

This was a good'n.

May God bless you and address you

Very insightful. God bless both of you for the knowledge he has given you and the ability to teach others.

I really enjoyed listening to you guys! I came out of the Charismatic Movement as well and I have similar concerns as you do.

a real man of God would never ask for money. Lord Jesus never asked for money.

Just wonderful, guys - and just another ex-charismatic, but now fire-breathing 1689 guy here as well.

Wonderfully engrossing 95 minutes of scholarly and inspired teaching!

I would actually say that angelic languages can be tested, at least by scripture. Practicing good harmonutics with proper exegesis, when in scripture, does an angel ever speak in an unknown language? I would say never, but I'm not a Bible scholar. I'm just a dummy who loves Jesus and the word.

From glory to glory, make hay while the sun shines, the son of man has no place to rest his head, do not run the race and look back, your life is like a vapor

I have up denomination awhile back if ask what denomination i belong to i am a sonner saved by the grace of god i beome a child of the king when he saved my soul and everyone who belives that believes on the name of the lord jesus shall be saved these are my brothers and sisters we are his church not the building or the name over the door these things cause confusion in whice god days hes not the author of.

I was reading a pentecostal book in '91.. There were lots of Scriptures, which I believed, prayed, asking Holy Spirit in, and the book said to then speak in tongues.. I honestly with all my heart, wanted to, but didnt. Then several times these pastors, pentecostal, and God bless them because this was in jail and their pretty much the only ones who vistit.. but several walked people through tongues.. never happened. I did read in those circles for several years, along with Sacred Names, feast days, even sadly the higher critical stuff.. even though I believed Scriptures, and yeas, it creates a lot of doubt, and its all a part of the modern versions, Newer Bibles, texts, etc.. but I got pulled out, actually by reading that apologetic book, cant remember name, but it dealt with the higher critical views, how its infected everything.. Anyway, i devoured the Bible, believed it, but struggled a bit over the whole Spiritual gifts things.. and then... I started approaching reformed theology, after being prejudiced of ot from all the other circles.. but struggling as i was, I became acquainted with the creeds, etc.. and that sealed the deal, learned to understand gifts better, etc.. Im always learning, and a big one was the ever present war between Protestants over this and that, saddly, when we have real enemies who are doing everything they can to destroy us, literally. But also, the Bible version issue, I believe it's important. Anyway, wrote more than I intended. My little 2 bits.

blessings..... brother from birmingham

Kofi was a member of my church, GraceLife London before going to the States to seminary. I joined the church long after he left.

One prophet used to lead the nation, now thousands of prophet's are learning to hear God's voice and encourage each other, prophecy now means possibilities if we obey not certainties without obedience, different purposes

We have ti rightly divide the word of truth (2 Tim 2:15 KJB)

According to chapter 14 of 1 Corinthians you can speak tongues to God ONLY if you don't have an interpreter that's they call it private.

My husband and I come from Southern Baptist backgrounds. The church we are currently members of is not. And when we became members and took their membership class it was presented as a church that was more non-denominational. They did say they believed in spiritual gifts, such as tongues, but it wasn’t until a few months after becoming members that the church started taking about “baptism of the Holy Spirit.” They would mention it, but not explain what they meant by it. Two Sundays ago, the lead pastor gave a sermon and he again brought up baptism of the Holy Spirit, and finally went a little further with his explanation, and made my husband and I both think that he and the church believe that baptism of the Holy Spirit is a secondary event, that happens after conversion. This is not something my husband and I believe or support. And several times in church people have prayed in “tongues” and there has been no interpretation. Which again, is something my husband and I don’t support (speaking in tongues without interpretation). They have also had two women give the message/teaching on Sundays, and address the whole congregation, which is a whole other area we are concerned about. All that to ask, are these issues ”non-essential” and not imperative enough to leave a church, or are the concerns my husband and I have valid and we should we talk with the pastor and let him know we may begin looking for another church?

DENOMINATIONS ARE MAN MADE. THERE ARE ABSOLUTLY NO DENOMINATIONS IN THE BIBLE. THEY ARE ALL MAN MADE RELIGIONS. GOD IS A SPIRIT & BEING BORN AGAIN MAKES ONE SPIRITUAL, WITH TONGUES, THE HEAVENLY LANGUAGE. THE HOLY BIBLE SAYS HOLINESS, ALL WE NEED, & WITHOUT, NO MAN CAN SEE THE LORD.

We Baptize in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ for the remission of sins b c the Father Son and Holy Ghost have a Name and his name is the Lord Jesus Christ and all 3 are in Jesus that’s what Acts 2:38 is about! So we need to give the Name when baptizing

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Explains things very well and helped me understand what I learned is not necessarily true.

Excellent discussion! Keep up the great work!!! I too grew up in Pentecostal-AoG churches and now I'm PCA. Still love my brothers who are speaking gibberish tho. Joel, have you ever read Kenneth Gentry's small book on tongues? It might be the best brief explanation on cessation I've read, and has helped me a lot with my charismatic friends.

The ministry you speak of would make a person cynical. However, to give up praying in tongues because of it is to let the gift be scorned because the giver is corrupt.

You guys just read my personal Christian bio. Extremely helpful.

Pauls Letters to the Corinthians were very clear. Let scripture say what is to be lived as a follower in "The Way” of Yahoshua Hamashiac/ Messiah Jesus

Thanks Pastor to you and your Wonderful Guest. GOD Bless y'all AMEN 🙏🙏🙏

I spent 30 years of my 55 year walk with God in the Vineyard in OH. It has broken my heart to see the movement become progressive through The social justice doctrine.

Diverse tongues is still present..i have the gift of tongues..like Joseph ( see bk of Jasher as mentioned in 2 Samuel and Joshua) #giftoftongues #diversetongues #diversecommunication😅

why so much speaking. Use scripture and get to the point

Jeremiah 23 25 I have heard what the prophets said, that prophesy lies in my name, saying, I have dreamed, I have dreamed. 26 How long shall this be in the heart of the prophets that prophesy lies? yea, they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart; 27 Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers have forgotten my name for Baal. 28 The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the LORD.

I go to a church and they prayed over my friends hand and it was healed. My friend is not a liar. Her hand was broken and it was healed. I thought he was fake at first. You can't speak for every situation. Some of it is fake. But there are some who are truly being healed today. I want to ask you do you beleive all the Bible? I have been plagued by demons and i would like to know your solution to my problem.

There are prophecies in the bible that have yet to be fulfilled such as in Daniel and the book of Revelation and some that were fulfilled hundreds of years later such as Isaiah predicting Jesus. So seeing if a prophecy comes true isn't always a good measure. Also it seems like you guys are making fun of Pentacostal beliefs. I'm an inquiring Christian and it's off-putting the way you talk about their beliefs being so sure you're correct.

Brother that is not what hes meaning in that scripture and because you are not baptized in the Holy Ghost you can’t see it! He’s is talking about we are all one in Jesus Christ neither male nor Female b c we all have the spirit of Christ that’s why we are Brothers and Sisters in the Lord but all one!!!! The Baptism of the Holy Ghost is to receive Power read Acts 1:8 you will be power less against the works of Darkness and in any deliverance of healing the sick or casting out demons this is what the Holy Ghost is for…. bc it is HE THE HOLY GHOST THAT DOES THE WORK THRU YOU AND THRU US!!!!!!! You have left the Enemy twist your thoughts on this… Lord have Mercy!!!

Wow…I seriously just watch you openly reference Harry Potter a very demonic Movie in the prior video & some how RU-vid is now playing this video. Im a tongue talking, dead raising, dancing Pentecostal😂😂 Im praying for you, your heart mind & a tenderness to what He has for you because He has so much more!😮

If you are coming against the Holy Ghost on each individual which clearly is stated in the word we shall receive power after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you so that we may do the Greater works Jesus said we must have the Holy Ghost!!!!!!! This is for us to battle the Enemy you better wake up!! Jesus said he when he leaves the Holy Ghost will come and he is the comforter and the one that does the work thru us!!!!! In all our battles!!!!!! 56:59 Each individual must be baptized In The Holy Ghost!!! You are way off track here way way off track this is Absolutely WRONG!!!! I am baptized in the Holy Ghost u need to ask God to open your eyes Spiritually b c you are teaching falsely read the word pay attention!! !! You are misleading people u better stop this now!!

Acts 8:14-17 “When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of GOD, they sent Peter and John to Samaria. When they arrived, they prayed for the new believers there that they might receive the Holy Spirit, they had simply been baptized IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS. Then Peter laid hands on them and they received the Holy Spirit. When Simon the sorcerer SAW that THE SPIRIT was given at the laying on of hands he offered them money…..” Now WHAT did Simon see?? WHY had these people who had already made a profession of faith and been “baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus” not received the Holy Spirit?? That is all that people today do! Today people believe and are water baptized. What is this about? Perhaps you need to consider this question. Did something change between then and now concerning the baptism of the Holy Spirit? The first followers of Christ received the baptism of the Holy Spirit in the upper room but many others received the same Holy Spirit such as what happened when Peter went to the centurion’s house and spoke to the gentiles that believed and the Holy Spirit fell on them. When a person receives the baptism of the Holy Spirit there is something that happens that people can perceive. I have just given you three examples of scripture showing this. People thought that the first believers that received the baptism of the Holy Spirit were drunk! Sadly, we hardly see a change in some people who simply decide to repeat the sinners prayer these days. ‘Just say these words and you are in!’ No. Getting truly saved requires the convicting power of the Holy Spirit. In 1 Corinthians 2:3-5 Paul tells us, “ I came to you in weakness with great fear and trembling. My message and my preaching WERE NOT with wise and persuasive words, but with A DEMONSTRATION OF THE SPIRIT’S POWER so that your faith might not rest on human wisdom but on GOD’s POWER.” What is our faith in today? There is much in that chapter that Paul relays that has to do with the need for less of man and more of God’s power. Today so many people rely on their own strength. The church works on the outside of people and does not show them how to mature spiritually. Speak a certain way, dress a certain way, give a certain way but how does the saint develop their ability to hear the Holy Spirit who Jesus himself said would lead us and guide us into all truth? Do you know where that new born from above spirit is located within the person? Can you distinguish between the thought of your mind and what your spirit is saying within you? God is spirit and those who worship Him MUST do so in spirit and in truth. We are spirit beings that live in a body and have a soul (the mind will and emotions). It is the responsibility of those leaders mentioned in Ephesians 4 to build up the saints so that they can become spiritually mature and attain the fullness of the stature of Christ. Does anyone take that charge seriously?? We have infant stage Christians sitting in the pews most of their lives. They never learn how to help themselves much less minister to others! Simon the sorcerer saw something when Peter laid his hands on the people! What did he see?? Simon had been so impressed about the signs and wonders that Phillip and his team were doing. Then when Peter laid hands on them Simon offered them money so he would be able to do what Peter did for these people. It was visible. It was something very noticeable when those people had hands laid on them by Peter and it WAS an experience separate from salvation for them. The church has gone for two thousand years without those signs and wonders even though the Lord Jesus said that believers would do the same as he did and even greater. Every time a real move of the Spirit breaks out the Pharisees start pointing finger and finding fault. “Those people are not holy!” Well, the Corinthians were not holy. They were new believers and still quite carnal but they had the gifts of the Spirit functioning within that church. It got messy sometimes but Paul did not tell them to stop the move of the Spirit. He told them that they were SUPPOSED to have gifts functioning among the body of believers, just keep it orderly. Today the body does nothing. Nothing. Oh, you can join a group for a Bible study but God is not supposed to work through the body today as He once did. Church is a show for the people to come and watch instead of sharing what God has shown them through the week. Churches have thrown out the power of God in order to look good to who? You look fine to the world. You have a form of godliness but no power.

The nature of New Testament prophetic revelation is seen in the examples provided for us. For example, prophetic revelation is given for the guidance of the church (Acts 11:27 - 30 and 13:1 - 3) or for guidance of individuals (Paul in Acts 21:9 - 11 and Timothy in 1 Timothy 1:18, 4:14). No where do we see that the gift of prophecy used for the purpose of providing new doctrine (although, Ephesians 2:20 & 3:5 could be a counter argument to my claim - worth discussing further if anyone is interested). The examples we have are no threat to the completed canon. As Paul says in 1 Corinthians 14:3 prophecy is for the encouragement of the church, providing specific guidance for an individual or church that desires to know the mind of the Lord in a specific situation.

It seems that this Kevin Z guy. RU-vid pushes this guy on me in feed. I listen to him. And notice a lack of scripture and his TOUGNGES PRAYERS and his talks have a lot of self edification a preponderance of I did me I . He does give God the credit

Please whatever you guys say do not grieve and or blaspheme the HOLY GHOST because the Bible say that it is the only "unforgivable sin".

Not all tongues are the same. “If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels”.

“Dispensationalism applied.”

How then DO we properly interpret 1Cor14:1...eagerly desiring prophecy (1:24:02)? (This is a sincere question, not a disagreement with your teaching.) Is it still an active gift as we saw in Acts and elsewhere in the NT?

I just wish there was a church based on book of Acts! Why nitpick? Why limit God? I don't think tongues should be emphasized as proof of baptism as it's too easily faked. Some pagan churches Babel.