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How’s they ruin them? Idk, they where entrapped by the titan’s creations so it’s not like they where immeasurably powerful in old lore. But I do wish they took longer to defeat
Good work, but in my opnion, inconsistent list, Naaru more powerful than old gods, really? Also, sargeras more powerful than void lords? They probably are members of first ones, And eternal ones most powerful than titans like argus seems inconsistent, cause we will defeat denathrius without Major difficulties in the begining of expansion differently than argus in Legion.
I would've understood if he was talking about the Keepers of the Naaru, but yeah, I disagree with their placing. Sargeras being stronger than the Void Lords is also cap, as the Void Lords are legit WoW's Outer Gods. As for the First Ones and them being members of it, no. The Void and the Light as a whole seem incredibly different from the First Ones. As for Denathrius and all, maybe the Covenants and Soul Binds amp your character beyond what the Artifacts/HoA could, hence why we're able to face off against Titan level threats like Denathrius. However, regarding the Pantheon of Death being Titan level or not, they go from "titan level" in the WoWhead Interview, to the Winter Queen being Keeper level in another interview from other sites (Which is cap). The Jailer goes from "Titan++ level" to "Titan Level" the same way. However, I seem to trust WoWheads stuff more, as WoWhead is far more official than offbrand sites.
Now I have questions. 1. How are titans created. 2. Who made the fel? And why did it make seegares so powerful. 3. Who exactly is death. We have been hoping it up forever now, or is death all the higher being in the ancient realm, kind of like the titans.
1. Basically they sleep in planets and wake up 2. It's more of just a chaotic energy source it wasn't really made unless the first ones made it but we don't know. Sargeras was already the strongest of the titans and adding fel to it was like throw gasoline onto a fire it just blows up more. Fel is very very destructive and chaotic by nature so, lets do some math Strongest Titan + (arguable) Strongest Magic = Big strong Boy 3.There's not really anyone who is just death like Lady Death in Marvel or anything. The Pantheon of Death could kinda be compared because they control the Shadowlands which is death Sorry if I get any of this wrong but I'm pretty sure I got it down Hope this answered your questions!
I'm glad why this list has different kinds of power. Not just, "I have big energy! You go boom." Its well thought out between different abilities of the warcraft races.
Its just.. sad. I remember back in wrath, the intimidation I felt like when descending into ulduar, going up against yogg saron, going up against a being so powerful even the lich king wouldn't approach it, seeing as you saw almost no scourge in storm peaks. Same with c'thun, you felt the fear factor of the old gods before even confronting them, and the struggles in your raid to beat the lovecraftian things. Today, they are just seen as nothing in the scale of bigger things, just something the bigger bad guys threw around like cheap pokemon
i think it is funny how everyone forgets about murmur, the dungeon endboss of shadow labyrinth in tbc. his lore is literally quoted: "It was so powerful that its entrance into existence shattered all reality around it. Mindless and existing only for chaos, its barest whisper was enough to destroy entire worlds". He is literally a cosmic being and the essence of sound
You know the identity of the First Ones? The creator of all, the most powerful being who can control the fate of other characters. Blizzard is the name
I'm missing one important Entity on this list. Killing the Jailer and the Titans would be 'just another tuesdaymorning for him'... Many players were already vanquished by his relentless onslaught.... Hogger!
I dont understand why Sargeras stabbed Azeroth with his sword, when he could have sliced it or something,,,,, guess Azeroth wielded some plot armor made by blizz
@@Noxielle im pretty ssure theer was a huge cosmic beam trying to seal him away, maybe that just fucked him up but yes dude plot armor is not a real thing
@@xoshnax5962 He came out of Azeroth in a cloud he was there for a while we can assume, Azeroth should be dead, I have no idea what your argument here is. You act like I’m saying plot armor literally saved Azeroth like bruh
Blizzard themselves confirmed the Jailer is more powerful than all of the Titans, and that the Pantheon of Death (Winter Queen, Archon, Arbiter, Denathrius, Primus and Jailer) are all Titan level in power
I don’t think the eternal ones are stronger than the titans, at least equal to them. The jailer was confirmed to be stronger than the titans but he is a very different case from the rest.
I dont think the jailer is stronger than the titans. I think blizzard is just trying to be more and more grandiose. IDK, what has the jailer done that actually makes him stronger than a titan? Instead of just saying he is stronger, they should actually show him doing something.
First ones would be Outerversal beings. Fyrim journals are hinting at this, and few other things in Zereth mortis too. They are Basicaly Existing outside concepts like, Death, Life, Logic, Fate, Time, space. Look at the warcraft cosmology Map in the Google, First ones would be basicaly Outside of Everything shown there. That is how Strong They are. Omnipotent pretty much.
Hard to say honestly at the moment. Before it used to be Grom Hellscream, but now I might just say Arthas due to how iconic he is to the entire Warcraft series.
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Should void lords be before sargeras, since he’s scared of them/believes they can’t be defeated? Also no post shadowlands it’s vete likely zoval was talking about something even stronger than the void lords.
Shadow seems like it's closer to Death, while the Void is sort of undead light. Once the light runs out of energy it starts devouring its self, and becomes anti matter, Void, I suppose.
Putting the First Ones above the Titans is a joke. Even if Blizzard says the Jailer is stronger than the Titans, there has to be evidence and feats. And based on that, the First Ones aren't even close to the power and level of the Pantheon and Sargeras.
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Where is murmur? He should be in Titan tier at minimum, in that codex of blood it was mentioned that his mere whisper was enough to destroy planets. It is scary to think what is that enitty capable of doing if angry and not holding back. Proof of his crazy power lvl is in outland, they summoned mere fraction of his true self and it made crater like from nuclear bomb.
Hello Dorons! Huge fan here!! I was wondering ....you could make a video talking about the Dungeon on Shadowlands "De Other Side". I think it's the Dg with the best lore until now! Gratz for your good work!
What's the logic for Naaru being above Old Gods? I know your logic is that their strength isn't literal raw strength much like with the dreadlords, but the Old Gods have both a ton of literal raw strength AND are master manipulators and corruptors responsible for much more that has happened so far as we know than the Naaru. I know they've been retconned to be really pathetic compared to how we used to think of them but I still don't think it's fair to place Naaru above them.
Right now I replaying W3 and I don´t thinkt that Lich King (or whatever is LK) and Dreadlords are best friends ever. I don´t mind dreadlords being intergalactic manipulators, but I really hope they are not all Jailer´s agents. It does not feel right. But if one or two of them are double agends than with that I have no problems. Nice video.
Void lords, first ones and azeroth have no feats. Sargeras best feat is planetary. Elune best feat is multi-solar system. Elune is the strongest entity in Warcraft.
I mean @Doronsmovies you really should redo this video. It's not only different opinion of the list but also tell the Warcraft universe Lore the right way. Sargeras wasn't infused by fell! Where did the fell game from. No it's stated that Sargeras found out that the endless battle fighting off creatures that were created in the twisting nether had no end and no progression. So instead of fighting them he joined them and became there leader living in the twisting nether changed his appearance and corrupting the body, mind and infused it with fell magic from within.
idk, I still think it goes titans then voidlords as the two most powerful beings in the universe. It is hard to take current lore at face value as blizzard has lost their mind and will keep pushing the goal post further and further to create bigger and badder enemies so that, eventually, the titans will be little more than an elwynn forest spider.
I think void lords should be number 2 or 1 because they control void a fundamental force of everything in World of Warcraft, even a fragmentation of them is capable of doing so much chaos in the universe, so imagine them in they full power, plus there are Void Lords not a single of them so i think they are strongest beings, or maybe there is someone like Void God who controls whole Void and Void lords is just like workers for him i don"t know. This is just my opinion.
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I hope one of the raid bosses is legit every major dreadlord, fuckin Mal'ganis, detheroc, tichondrius, varimarthras, mephistroth, balnazzar, just legit all the boys. THat'd be sick, i'd froth that
...just thought that the first ones could be us(the people outside the game) as it would make sence for our characters to be able use items by the creators as our characters are kinda like our avatars and as people(humans living on earth) were the ones who created world of Warcraft it can make sense that they would be seen as the creators.
Why does no one ever talk about “elune” elune is essentially supposed to be this great goddess who’s power has been felt all over the universe.... so why is her physical embodiment hovering right over Azeroth.... she is gonna be second to none except Azeroth and she needs Azeroth to be her best self.... I’m calling in now 2021 for anyone who sees this in the future
@@preds43 the point the size difference is huge the jailer is like archimonde size while sargeras can destroy a planet with his sword its just its incomparable
I believe sargaras is stronger then the first ones. Or even the titans before they were weakened. I feel like they share many similarities in looks to the Greek pantheon who were the children of titans, the literal first ones in their universe. And they overthrew them. I believe the same is to be said here. After all, all the first ones are gone and the one we do know about is in chains. I think that has to be said for something
The First Ones and the Titans are different, and it doesn't seem like the Titans overthrew these First Ones at all, as the Chronicle does not at all mention them whatsoever, even tho the Chronicle mainly focuses on the Titan's perspective of the WoW Cosmos.
I love Ur videos dorons. but i guess u forgot to mention Elune as it is said to be worshiped by all the universe. i guess night fae also does it.. i am not sure though.. great video keep it up..
If Illidan beat the strongest Naaru quite easily why is he not on this list? P.S. By the way Illidan is not even mortal now because the only way he can die is if you killed him in the void realm.
It never ceases to amaze me how people can find sooo many points to criticize about in a vast, HUGE universe of ideas and content. I doubt any of you could even come close to the comprehension it would take to even start thinking of a story that ties together so many things. So instead of constantly crying and mimimi´ing about it, go and do it better. Im so fed up with the internet in 2022 lol.
Mmmmmmm i think void lords is stronger than sargeras and azeroth since the entire reason sargeras felt fear was because of the void lords power in the first place
Wait, Wait! Are you saying the Dimensius the all-devouring is one of the Void Lords? I mean, all these "Void Lord" mobs and bosses obviously are weak as hell compared to the Old Gods, has there been another recton? Or maybe did you confused?
@@ssj3theoutsider228 According to Chronicles, Void Lords requires immense amount of power in order to manifest in reality, especially if it's indefinitely , so basically if they do, it is likely that it will be only an echo/fragment of their true form
