Top 3 Plot Holes in 'Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga' 

Exactly

exactly, the only plot hole is that one line in fury road, furiosa saying her mother didnt survive at some number of nights, whiles actually shes died the very first night

Exactly! Although I will say, when she cuts her hair as a young girl, it's not to appear as a boy. She cuts her hair and makes a wig out of it so she can escape when Joe's son is playing with it. She cuts her hair again when she's older, only so she looks like Charlize therons version in Fury Road, then don't give us any other explanation for that.

They didn’t SHOW any search for her. You are free to presume there was one. That portion of the story was subsumed in the time-lapse sequence.

I'm not criticizing the war rig driver, John, for accepting Furiosa, that made all the sense. I'm saying there's no way Joe, who runs the entire citadel, would not let such a healthy and beautiful young woman do anything but be a Wife

She was taken out by his son from the vault in secret and she hid. She kind of dissapeared to reapper as she pretended to be a boy.

@@kennymos9007we all get that part… what he’s missing is a scene of Immortan Joe making a big deal out of this missing girl, who was the main point of the deal he made with Dementus

They have to be cannibals right? I wonder about things like that with this world in general. Is Immortan Joe the only getting fuel from Gas Town? Or can other people come and pay? Because if not.. where is all this fuel coming from??

​@@ScreenStaticStudios yeah, I agree.

bigger question is where do they get the guzzoline? prior to discovering the gas town

Stupid question. Go to see a documentary.

Don't really get why she cares for the wives. Beside the ultra egoits who got their whole private forest and all for their few dozen people, those wives got by far the best life in the whole setting of living hell. If it's some sexist stuff about women, well, there are for sure hundreds of woman outside, but I guess those are just not pretty enough to be helped. Overall the majority of the violenc is born from basic needs. It's life and death situation. This includes her and her mother, who got abundance and just give a fuck about everyone else, let them die - what then causes those pretty much HAVING to kill each other over the few things left.

I swear there's a 3-4 hour version of this movie we didnt see

I'm trying to recall if her mother was also injured in that fight? Maybe they were slowly finishing her off to interrogate or get Furiosa to fess up?

You would think it might yield better results to torture the daughter in order to get the mom to talk..

Or simply just looking for it, since it obviously exist and that so close that you can reach it with one of the bikes. Makes ZERO sense that they did not look for and find it.

@@ScreenStaticStudios The simply don't need them to talk. Their bikes alone make clear that this isn't far away and with the mother trying to save her doctor and by that can't just drive off in the desert, it's also already clear which direction they should take. Hell, most likely they should know where it is, since these guys were scouts and so it should be vaguely clear in which direction they were sent. Furiosa was only needed as proof, nothing else.

The hair/tree scene was just to show the passage of time. No one saw that hair except the audience.

@@ScreenStaticStudios Maybe. But why cut off the hair in the first place, add the noise making sounds to draw attention to it.

That's a good point. I think you're doing more work than the movie did to convey that. But I can still concede that point.

I don’t think the movie should do more than this to convey it, I thought it was pretty clear

@emielmaddens7079 I didn't see anything in chris Hemsworths performance or the other people in the tent that suggest this was a lie or a trick. By movie standards, it was played as genuine. There wasn't any side eye between characters or conversation after she was out of sight. And there's no explanation as to why they have to wait until the next day

@@ScreenStaticStudios I disagree. It wasn't a 100% explicitly stated, but I got the immediate impression it was a manipulative line.

The forest is massive only thru the eyes of a child .. have u gone back to your elementary school and said I remember this was a larger place ? That’s how the green place was portrayed

She was under the protection of the Citadel’s most valued warrior. In our modern sheltered world we have forgotten the natural order of patriarchy.

Jack lives at the Citadel and his "crew" consists entirely of war boys, so there's no indication that he's independent. He's a permanent member of Joe's organization. After Furiosa officially joins the crew, she's very clearly a woman and isn't hiding that fact. And she sleeps in the same areas as everyone else. She's a girl on the crew and no one cares or asks any questions about her.

@@ScreenStaticStudios Maybe. In the film he's at the Citadel. I'm at work a lot, for contrast, but I don't live there. In the church of the holy motor, where the war rig is being built, when Jack first shows up, he isn't just there to work. I can't remember the comments from the people working on the rig but I had the sense that Jack is not a common sight to see and maybe even something more of a bit of a legend to them. I never saw the Immortan hot-iron brand on Jack. The war boys are just things in the end, too. Like gasoline. Whatever it takes to get the job done. Jack needs things to get things done, war boys are things, he's not too broken up on the loss of humans but he knows he needs things to protect his load from attack and does so with a crewed vehicle. And before the war rig, how were supplies moved between the three fortresses successfully. Without being swarmed by the rock riders or the spikey cars as there are other groups out there in the area as seen in Fury Road. Like Fury Road, there's a lot not answered and left to interpretation still. Like the "when" in the Mad Max films Fury Road exists. It's really open to interpretation. The pursuit vehicle with the bikes loaded into it as they entered the bullet farm I suspect is Jack's version of Max's interceptor. It's like in Mad Max 2, Max is not there to "help" save the people in the compound. He made a deal with a guy to gain access to the compound and get supplies. Max worked for the people in the compound driving the rig.

Your first point: Dementus' attachment to her and the care he takes with her is displayed well in the film, so I agree with you there. The Second Point: No one "destroyed" the Green Place and Furiosa losing the map on her arm isn't really relevant at all. In Fury Road, she says that she tried "many times" to go home, but her status as the War Rig driver has given her the best chance. But she always knew the general direction which is why she knew where to go in Fury Road. We just never see these many attempts. Also in Fury Road, it's stated that the Green Place just decayed and wasted away because of the environment. Your Third Point: Anything Immortan Joe or his son said or did in relation to Young Furiosa isn't shown. We don't know and there's no indication that Joe even knows or cares. But we know she was important or his son wouldn't have felt like he needed to sneak in and take her, he would've just done it out in the open.

That's all true. This being a prequel means there's a limit to what they can do narratively. However, in Fury Road, she tells Max that she tried to go back many times, but her becoming the War Rig driver gave her the best chance for sucess. In Furiosa, after Dementus is defeated, there's no indication that she still wants to go home or that anything is preventing her from going. And it's imlied that she immediately becomes the war rig driver, so where were the many attempts?

Yeah..... maybe he was bluffing or trying to fill younger Furiosa's head with doubts and trick her?

Then how did she know the way in Fury Road?

@@ScreenStaticStudios good question_ don't remember the movie

Then why didn't they leave immediately and why torture/ kill the mom trying force info out of furiosa?

@ScreenStaticStudios The mom was going to die regardless. She had laid waste to so many of his troops...a price was going to be paid. Plus, traveling to an unknown place with no real concrete information, how far, if they are militarized, etc is quite the risk. Leveraging the mom by torturing her in front of the kid would hopefully help extract some kind of information from Furiosa, so they aren't necessarily following tracks to what could be an imminent doom.

@ScreenStaticStudios And I totally agree with the other observations. For her to just go missing from the vault without anyone questioning was a headscratcher. But I think she doesn't just leave and go back home for the same reasons she didn't escape in the very beginning...she didn't want to leave anyone behind.

​@ScreenStaticStudios And her ending up riding shotgun was crazy too! Like you said, how did all of sudden some random "healthy", long-haired chick end up moving around and up the totem pole like that!?!? Nobody was like, hey...who the F is that girl? 🤣

Yea, I didn't mind the CGI honestly. Outside of some of the early scene with the mom, it was fine.

You're probably right.

Simply makes zeros sense as so many things. When she lost her arm and escaped was also absurdly stupid. She was the main focus of all these raiders there. Absolutely absurd that she could escape. And there is zero chance that with those few people around, that she wouldn't get discovered hiding between the minons of Joe. If anything she could have stayed hidden between the 'peasants' at the bottom - though those for sure would have sold her out to Immortan Joe for a reward. Being such a jewel in his treasure cave, Joe would have made everyone look after her and with just enough people for a small village, you can't just stay anonymous. On top of that, when someone does not talk and hides 'his' face all the time, they will double check them just out of caution alone. The whole Mad Max setting is a brutal, hellish fight for constant survival, you don' just let strangers run around, especially not when you got such a fortress build up. Hell, he knows the exact numbers of boys he got in his army, making it very clear how ordered his regime is.

She doesn't have the map in Fury Road at all but still managed :/ She always knew to head East

When she escaped and was hiding as a boy, she had her arm and the star-map. She didn't lose her arm until she was a grown-up. I also would say that she most likely memorized that simple map!

I think for that scene, the implications that she used the dust to hide her movements and with all the other bikes running loudly, they didn't hear her ride away. The real answer is that she's Batman. I think the thing with the prosthetic arm is just something we chock up to the world they are in because from a logic standpoint. Everyone should be dead from either infection or dehydration because immortan joe definitely doesn't release enough water a day for all those people to still be alive.

You're right, I had to watch Fury Road again to see her say the part where she'd tried before. It is better, but it's not a clean connection because she says that it's because she now drives the War Rig that she has the best chance. But at the end of Furiosa, even before the time jump, there's nothing suggesting that she isn't already the driver of the War Rig, or that there's anything she needs to do to get that position now that John's dead.

Simple scene that could have explained it, he could have take some food and throw it down, then tell the story that she escaped an fell from the cliff during that, with them looking down and seein those peasants running around, just thinking that she is dead and was eaten by the cannibals (since they obviously eat dead peopel down there). Easy fix for the problem. Still a problem that Joe doesn't demand to have her when it became obvious that she's a healthy woman. The focus on creating healthy children for a possible future is obviously his main goal and it makes zero sense that he would waste any healthy woman's life for such a very certainly lethal ending job.

I believe there's a 3hr cut of this movie that we probably won't ever see

I mean, in the end the whole Mad Max setting never made much sense, but they at least tried to care more to push the whole suspension of disbelief, while Furiosa was much too lazy.

Not at all lol

Jack was a mentor who taught Furiosa how to fight and live in Westland. And the rest is to reinforce the audience's hatred of dementas? As for the chrome, I think it makes sense to dare to sculpt with precious chrome. I don't know how the Furiosa was transported to the Citadel though. Maybe Max carried it😅

I thought she was injured and having a flashback? Trying to remember was that after she lost her arm and the recalling a prior encounter with desperate people eating arms and legs?

Pretorian Jack was the first man she trusted and loved, hence her later attraction to Max who is a similar "type" of man.

Exactly, a group of marauders and it's just you on horseback? No help?

Overall they alreayd had a whole grup of raider finding that place - by that it makes zeros sense that the raider clan there wouldn't find it, too. Those guys were clearly scouts and by that it shouldn't be hard to guess where the place is. The moment they saw Furiosa and by that KNOW that there is that green place would be the end since the would just keep looking for it. The range of those bikes is clearly limited so there isn't much area where it could be. The mother trying to save her child then pinpoints in that direction, too, because she can't just drive anywhere else, she has to go back to that save place or die in the desert with her child.

Wait.. it's not a documentary about regular life in Australia?

It was honestly kind of distracting

All of those are great reasonings. But they are all assumptions. The film doesn't tell us these things. Yes it's The Wasteland, so all kinds of things will happen, but in any story, your characters should act consistently with how you've set them up and how they particular world is set up. All we've ever see of Joe and his wives is that he cares about all them. We've never seen him act indifferent to one, he cares about all of them and has had one favorite among them. So there's nothing given to us by the film that suggest he wouldn't care that one goes missing, or wouldn't at least care about how one got out of the vault so that the others can't do the same.

@@ScreenStaticStudios we've seen that he cares about his wives collectively, as in when they ALL leave, including his favorite one, Rosie Huntington-Whiteley. But one new one, while his Gastown is being seized, we have no indication he would go insane over that. Or even if he did, we can assume he freaked out about it in the background and then got over it. At the end of the day it wasn't like he could do anything about it, they lost her.

@@rhinoman86but she was the lynchpin of the deal he just made with Dementus. So that’s why we’re wondering why we didn’t see any reaction or explanation. Now, if the movie was all from Furiosa’s perspective, that would make sense. But it’s not.

Feel free to enlighten me

@@ScreenStaticStudios A plot hole involves a contradiction or error of logic. Most of what you detail in this video are, at best, matters left unexplained but probably better-characterized simply as off-screen action left to the audience to infer. The one exception is the trail and the sandstorm---the first "plot hole" to which you refer. Yet; I find your interpretation "unique." The villain had no way of knowing a sandstorm was on the way: He has the service of a History Man, not a Weather Man.

@WatchMaga I don't entirely disagree with your critique. It mightve been more accurate to say "questions the movie didn't answer" Except, the Sanatomr point and her not immediately heading home at the end of this, I maintain are both actual plot holes. With the sandstorm, he doesnt need a weatherman, the Sandstorm on the Horizon in the same scene where he says they will follow the tracks in the morning.

@@ScreenStaticStudios Appreciate the reply. A fair-minded response. I would need to watch this film and fury road a second time to determine if there is an implied explanation for her not heading home immediately.

The only, young woman, with no diseases walking around the citadel and nothing? Nothing...?

@@ScreenStaticStudios I dunno, Praetorian Jack seemed healthy enough. Maybe there's a minority of healthy people who get prominent positions unlike the sad War Boys. Kind of makes me wonder about Max's history ( in this version ) since he seems healthy to.

I mean, it makes sense that the boys wouldn't do anythin to a woman, since they are ultra disciplined in their crazy raider way and the way Joe is it should be very clear that females, especially health females are treated like royality. What doesn't make sense ist that they do not instantly bring her to Joe for just that reason. Overall with all the death and so little people it's paramount if you go for survival and keeping humankind alive, that you would focus on the woman you got to get pregnant as often as possible and you would for sure not waste them for any job that would 99% certain result in death sooner or later. When it comes to the boys, those are doomed anyway, that's why Joe's focus is not only on childre, but healthy children, who won't just die by cancer or whatever at young age. Overall he likely would also not even waste guys like Jack - though that would depend if he wants to be the sole father of all babies. But if he got any clue of reproduction, he would probably give someone healty as Jack also at least some halfway health women and more likely give him a job that is not about dancing with death the whole time. When the boys die, that doesn't matter much from his PoV, since they will die anyway from their illness. But obviously the loss of any healthy human would be a big loss to his plans.

Where/who in the movie ever says she's infertile? And the movie ends with a time jump to the events of mad max Fury Road.

@@ScreenStaticStudios in the comic book it's said that she couldn't be a wife because she's infertile. So she is joes imperator and gains his trust and she spends all that time looking for the right opportunity to escape and then that leads to fury road.

@@JR-qx6xi Then say that in the movie, wouldn't be hard, no? Of course from Joe's PoV being infertile as a woman would make her borderline worthless and then it makes sense to just put her together with the doomed boys.

@@JR-qx6xi word.

@@JR-qx6xiif it’s not in the movie, it doesn’t count.

I know! Discussing them is half the fun 😁

You're right, I had forgotten about the black rider. They were definitely alluding to a division and/or conflict between him and Dementous that was more significant than what we saw. The production on Fury Road was really difficult for them, being out in the desert for months. Maybe, for this movie, the issues showed up more on screen

@@ScreenStaticStudios I thought what started to happen is this was a Trojan Horse kind of attack to get their guys, disguised as War Boys, passed the gate. Dementus chose to make it convincing by even killing these guys which pissed off the dark horned guy? I'm not gonna say this clears up the story details very well lol; it's an area of the movie is increasingly more chaotic. Or oddly, Dementus envies Joe's power so much, he's decided to emulate the power he showed when he had a War Boy kamikaze them. Dementus is like fuckit, I'll murder my own War Boys as well.