The fifth issue that I've seen recently that I could not fit into the title was I've had ignition coils going bad frying the powertrain control module the engine computer
#27 gets relocated to #70. Everyone with a 09-14 F150 will get stranded by this at one point or another. I'd recommend it to every customer you get. It's a maintenance item. Did mine as such. Your list is bang on!
Yup. And it’s unbelievable that Ford still hasn’t made this a full on recall. This issues stranded my brother In a snow storm and his truck wouldn’t start. No heat, nobody around, etc.
According to ford dealership they always negate issues. We don’t see thatn act like idiots. Now pushing a $105k new one on me - f no id give it to charity before that !!
bro your learning me so much today thank you homie!!!!!I work on a ton of these models your mentioning ........... Thanks soo sooo much bro!!!!! I'm storning all this in the brain files this was another great one!!!!!!
Something that’s so weird to me coming from motorcycles is how clean and rust free our bikes are but cars have “Normal Rust” 😅 I about died when I saw my transit driveshaft caked in rust but they told me “that’s normal”. Since I’ve heard of it I’ve been peaking under every car and they are all the same underneath. What a trip. I’ll take to working on my rust free bike suspension parts any day. 4 bolts to drop the whole front suspension out 😆
Broke down in Phoenix this last week. Took my truck to a shop and they replaced the relay and fuel pump control module to the tune of nearly $500. Drove to Flagstaff turned it off and it wouldn’t restart. It finally started so I left it running until I was home in Idaho. I just watched your video and pulled fuse 27. Looks just like the one in the video. Thanks g f or the info.
That's a very good observation thank you for the info. I had to do the relocation of the fuse and a fuse box recently on the F-150. I know it comes with two stickers one that goes inside the owner's manual and the other one goes on the fuse box. That way whoever works in the vehicle in the future knows that the fuse was relocated.
Yeah just had to replace the purge valve on my '17 fiesta for a rough start after refuel & throwing a check engine light. Crazy to see that it's a common failure across several models & engines
Straight facts without the nonsense. Pretty sure I witnessed the exact moment that code you read happened. It’s all good and worked out just fine. Rock on.
Man, with that tank sucked in i’d be worried about a stuck closed vent solenoid or gas cap too. Parts are making things harder lately too. Did a FPDM last week and the replacement was defective, went from low power and low voltage to pump, to no start and no voltage to pump. Smh Stay strong.
My buddy has a 2013 or 2014 (?) with the 6.2 and the fuel pump fuse melted a few months ago. So not bad for being never touched before. He's gonna order the kit soon but for now just got a new fuse because he was on a long trip.
The biggest problem I have found with no starts is corrosion. If you have checked out all the culprits, pull all the fuses in engine fusebox and spray penetration oil for an overnight soak. This has solved the problem many times. But a good scan can't be beat!
Automatic thumbs up. Have you or your viewers had or heard of problems with the 2019 an up ford ranger. I love mine. Just the right size for where I drive an what i haul. I enjoy your live vids!
Great video my question is after I replace the fuse which was fried just like the one you pulled out is it recommended to change the purge valve as well?
I literally had to do this on my 2011 f150 FX4 5.0 And I just did one Friday on 2013 3.5 liter. If you have never done one it's looks scary with all the wires. But it usually takes about 10 min. Relocation down one row from f27. Move to driver side 8 spots. Put in a mini jcase. Every fuse relocation I did that's what was in the pack
I got the same message side with my 2011 f150 5.0 and have been having this issue for some time too, it’s frustrating and I read it before but forgot until I stumbled across this video as a reminder . My trucks been down for 3/5 days at my friends house and first day I dropped the tank and changed the fuel pump sending unit out for the second time ! Thanks for the video reminder , hope it helps me along with others too ! Now I can’t wait to go back over and test/check it, as I really need my truck for work !!! 💯 I like the ford trucks but this is really getting rediculas and no upgrade/recall from Ford ??? WTH ? Figures- Fix or repair daily . ☝️💯😡😞💰
I think I’m having a purge valve issue with my 2020 F150 2.7 ecoboost. On a warm restart it’ll misfire heavily unless I give it gas. Or it’ll stall right away. Noticed it does it bad after filling it up
I wish you worked at the dealer by where I live, I sent my car over there for an evap leak. I spent 1400 dollars and I was driving to work and engine light came back on for the same problem. Back to the dealer I went, so frustrating!
Friend of mine has a 2013 where the fuse box ended up melting because of the Fuse 27 issue. He posted about it on social media. Scared the shit out of me, I looked up the TSB and had the relocation done preemptively on my 2014.
I have a 2011 f150 3.7 liter, I replaced that fuse years ago because it cranks and no start, recently it no crank no start with dash saying start system fault so after little research someone said it could be the key fob, turns out it was, i bought an aftermarket key because of the stupid my key feature on this truck and the top speed was set to 80 mph. The original FoMoCo worked and the newer aftermarket key was trash. I try to use FoMoCo parts now especially after I replaced all my tire air pressure sensors from Amazon crap parts and they lasted less than a year and the originals lasted almost ten years.
@@donjefe5999 I had the original key fob in a drawer, I tried it after checking the battery in the fobs and under the hood and the fuses and it started, the aftermarket key gave the start system fault message, the original worked fine and still does to this day, their is no way to check unless you have an extra key fob, a locksmith has them probably around $150
@@kenleycarlton7562 oh I've had video is out on this long before today I mean I have a whole entire video on purge valve diagnosis and remember the recent video I did when I pointed out how disingenuine and misdirecting Scotty Kilmer was whenever he was talking about the charcoal canister being the reason the vehicle is having a hard time starting or running rough after filling up with gas Yeah it's just a coincidence I don't try to copy other people I've been talking about this for a long time and I don't want Brian to think that I'm trying to steal his Thunder by making videos just because I see him make a video because that's not the case
Does the purge valve issue affect other engines or primarily the 3.7NA? I am not having any issues besides the dead lead-frame (Ford is offering to pay half the bill despite it being reported under warranty) but I am curious. *EDIT* That is up to 2014. They changed to the aluminum body in 2015. My 2015 does not have the power distribution/fusebox up front like my 2013 did. It is on the passenger side, but you likely know what I mean.
I put 2015 because I referenced in the video make sure you have the fuse box up front I've seen mid-year switches where things don't quite get carried over properly ideally you are right but sometimes I have to cover that extra basis that's why I referenced fuse box up front
My 2012 having this issue. Tried the fuel pump driver module, replaced plugs, purge valve, and #27 fuse. Fuel pump primes. Whats weird is I pulled the #27 fuse and it started for a second then stalled. Could it be corrosion in the fuse box? Ordered a relocation kit. Hope this is the issue.
Did you check the connector in the fuse box on the passenger side in the cab? And did you check the ignition coil fuse in the fuse box as well remember I have multiple videos on this no start issue specifically look at it there's a Ford Raptor same basic setup I did everything that I can do to figure out what was wrong with it come to find out at the end of everything I checked the ignition coil fuse in the fuse box it was gone the customer was messing with the fuses and removed it
But Scotty would have whipped out a giant scan tool. Definitely the charcoal canister lol 😂 But seriously, thanks for what you do. I really want a used F150 and this may come in handy!
I need some advice. What is the lifespan on these engines. Ive been looking at some used ones from a individual seller that have over 200,000 miles on them and I believe they're asking way too much and I am super leery of getting something with that many miles.
@@FordBossMe my thoughts exactly. I just dont know what mileage I could find and be ok. I dont want to buy something and the engine or transmission blow up within a month
So i had my engine replaced on my 2013 f150 Ecoboost, been sitting a while but it would take long long time to get it started after that and it wouldn't run right. Tou said something about the kick pannel and harness?
Man I gotta stop skipping out on your vids I keep wanting to leave comments to ask you dumb questions but then I realize the videos from like 3 days ago 😅
It would seem to me that you have an issue with your ignition or there's something wrong with the security system or programming with that key once it's put in the ignition
The 2013 F-150 i mentioned to you before just shuts off randomly . NO codes , Rear pump relay has been replaced and fuse relocation has been done by myself recently . The truck i am diagnosing is a 5.0 l that will just shut off at idle warming up or 2 hours later driving at any speed or stopped at a light . There is NO condition , time or temperature related to when it shuts off . It does not stumble or chug but much like the key was just shut off . When restarting the key needs to be cycled to re-initiate the PATS but starts immediately and runs flawlessly until the next time it randomly shuts off . Any thoughts ?? NOTE i have checked all connections in the passenger kick panel and underhood fuse panel and also monitored the ECM & run/start relays which remain latched after the engine randomly shuts off .
Does it retain fuel pressure once it shuts off can you monitor the Data Logger and see what the fuel line pressure is once the vehicle dies is it able to continue to retain constant fuel pressure once the vehicle shuts off? Or whole entire vehicle just go dead as if there's no power
My’14 n 5.0 does the random die too. Sometimes I have to let cool down before it’ll start n sometimes starts rite up. Sure would like to know wtf this is. I replaced the fuel pump driver as of last, knocking on wood now.
@@FordBossMe Oh i agree with the cut "n" dry statement 110 % Rich ... I never attended the Scotty School or Automotive Repair lol. I have only seen the tank concaved like that on a 2011 Ford Edge so naturally assumed it could happen on full size trucks too so i always check the tank . On the Edge there was a P0441 and a P0172 which lead me in the right direction . I would have been surprised had there not been any codes and the tank that distorted ! Then again we learn every day !
I’m dealing with this issue too #27 changed out, new f p driver. Didn’t know about purge valve. I have the 5.0 -do they have one ? I don’t see the p v issues but if that thing doesn’t wanna start it wont !! A shot of start fluid by the intake horn would work. Never any codes. I’m hoping the fpd is my answer n 🤞
Check the fuel pump driver module and also check the connector at the body control module inside on the passenger side down by the floor remove the fuse panel door and make sure the latches are pushed in all the way because sometimes people push up against the plastic and knock the latch out and break the Locking clip
Random question, hoping you Ford guys out there may be able to help me. Im working on a 2011 f150 and the rear driver turn signal isn’t working, the brake lights work and the indicator clicks fast in the vehicle, I’ve checked all ground, fuses and relays. From some reading it appears the Bcm has to be reset If a bulb blows or a short is caused, Any help is appreciated.
So 2011 on they started using where they would shut the circuit down or they would make the turn signal flash fast even after you put a new bulb in and corrected the problem until you clear the codes to let the computer know everything was okay now I can't guarantee that that's the problem but I had that happen to me before and then once I cleared the code that reactivated everything for me and went back to normal and all it was was just simply a blown bulb but it needed to see the codes cleared
@@FordBossMe perfect, when you say codes your taking about the check engine light codes correct?, I’ve got a snap-on scan tool and my shop but that’s about it, from what I’ve read ( I could be wrong but i at least like to be thorough before asking for help) I need a ford scan tool to reset the bcm
What if your truck doesn't have a code or an engine light?? I have a problem on a 2012 and at times it doesn't start! But later it's running fine for a couple of days
Hey I have a 2019 ford escape I just rolled 60k (I drive highway alot) and third gear acts like it slips sometimes and it acts like it bucks sometimes coming off throttle what are possible causes for this issue
Trans fluid, shift solenoid contamination, early failure of internal components, may need trans adaptive strategy reset A basic drain and fill may help
I know this has nothing to do with this video but I have a 2017 explorer and the hood has bubbles in it. I was told there was a five year warranty on it my dealership said they never heard about it.
So you typically have to make sure in your policy whenever you buy your vehicle that you have paint and Corrosion Protection I know there are some coverages but I think they expire quick and it is a common problem on the Explorers we have people coming in all the time complaining about it and they are livid
How you give me a little bit more information about what it does do when it's warm does it crank when you say when it's warm does it mean that the oil is warmed up but when the oil is cold it won't start? What previous work has been done and what codes have been cold pulled from the computer
@@FordBossMe no codes just a long crank seems like no fuel but I have a Modis it’s telling me I have fuel pressure the ro or going around is cam phasers also once you drive it then shut it off then she doesn’t want to start
@@billyryder501 With what you’ve described and having NO codes, then it’s usually a mechanical issue with the fuel system. Could be fuel filter, could be fuel pump, could be injectors. The only electrical problem that could be the issue without throwing a code is a temp sensor for fuel mix. A Ford tech can plug into your truck and find out.
Can you tell me this issue: my 2009 f150 4.6 engine, Last October 2022, as i was heading home and the truck shuts off all the sudden. I replaced water pump, fan clutch, spark plugs, ignition coils, fuel pump, starters & alternator, oil sensor switch, and it will crank but won't start. Its telling me that the spark plugs or ignition coils is misfire to pcm/ecm so I tried to lock the truck, it won't lock, no power. I called my ford dealer service said it could be fuel pump or the electrical issues. My neighbors said it could be the PCM that the rain moist got into the PCM but I checked all the relay and replaced few of them. I bought a new PCM computer. My neighbors said when he took the vehicle to dealer they said it was the PCM computer so they paid $1000 to start up. Do you think its the PCM. Any advice thanks
I would try to spray some starting fluid while cranking I didn't see if it starts and if it does then you have a fuel problem and if it doesn't you might have an ignition problem which in turn I would be checking the crank sensor make sure you got RPM signal because if you got no RPM signal in the vehicle won't start and that comes from the crank sensor crankshaft position sensor and if that don't work then it might well be a PCM
@@FordBossMe topping off the gas tank. I also wonder this, if it messes with the EVAP system. I learned from my dad to never keep topping off the gas tank because that’s how it’s designed, need some air in the tank so it doesn’t damage anything with temperature fluctuation.
Scotty dont know shit about vehicles made after 1992. Just another example of a person who refuses to learn as their occupation advances through time. Amd as a mechanic you always need to be learning new tricks and shit that manufactured add over the decades
