0:00 Who was Enoch 2:53 Who were the Nephilim? 5:01 Who is Melchizedek? 6:55 Who is Job? 8:42 Who are Behemoth and Leviathan? 11:21 What is the Harrowing of Hell? 14:01 Book of Revelation?
Chad Enoch: - Live for hundreds of years - Begat Methuselah - Walk with God - Ascend with God instead of dying a normal death - Never shows up in the Bible again - Refuse to elaborate
@@dreaddshortsAs an inquirer into the Orthodox Church, it took me a while to understand that The church composed the Bible with the power of the Holy Spirit, established at Pentecost. it’s not something that fell out if the sky and that the Reformers caught. It is the same Church that Jesus Christ and His Apostles established still exists and has not fundamentally changed for 2000 years. Christ said the gates of hell will not prevail against his Church.
@@dreaddshorts we are not saved by works, however works so show your faith. Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV [8] For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: [9] not of works, lest any man should boast.
Fun fact, Revelation is not the only place in the Bible where 666 appears. 2 Chronicles 9:13 shows King Solomon receiving 666 talents of gold one year. It was also the sheer decadence of Solomon's kingdom that caused the Jews to forget God and worship idols. Also, Revelation describes 666 as being the number of a man. Coincidence? I think NOT! My interpretation of the Number of the Beast is that the Mark of the Beast is unrepentance and faithlessness itself, and the significance of the mark on your forehead and right hand is that the Mark (which is atheism and unrepentance) corrupts both your thoughts and your works.
Or, you can just Google the vaticanus codex 666 Greek rendering which looks identical to the Arabic "bismiallah" 3 centuries before Islam existed. It's no goddamn mystery. Greek rendering of 666 in ancient biblical Greek. Is the literal symbol of the words "in the name of Allah" in arabic. Why are you mystery thinking it?
@@briandiehl9257 lol I get that, but that disqualifies Jesus in this particular passage. Obviously Jesus had earthly parents but he also existed eternally, so in that sense he had no genealogy. Understanding Melchizedek to be Jesus is a valid interpretation, even if it is not true. Both interpretations are reasonable
@@timothyvenable3336 I mean it could have been Jesus but I think it’s cooler of there was an actual dude named Melchizedek who was Priest of God Most High wandering around blessing people
@@dreaddshorts You’re just asserting your presuppositions on what “the church” means, does the scripture specifically mention the protection of traditions written by pseudo-Dionysius an anonymous pagan author that Orthodox build so much of their theology off of ? No, definitely not. Tradition is important but it needs to be tempered by scripture. If the concept of the church was as a physical body and if Orthodox claims were true we would expect to see certain blessings bestowed on the Orthodox Church but we don’t, the Orthodox Church is in active schism the Moscow Patriarchate and the Ecumenical Patriarchate are not on speaking terms and the division between theological conservatism and theological liberalism is forming another schism, overall the Orthodox are suffering the same problems that every other denomination is, the claim that orthodox are one church is dubious at best considering dogma is not universally understood or accepted across the churches in communion and even the very definition of dogma isn’t accepted universally. An example is Toll Houses, the Greeks will tell you overall that Toll Houses are not dogma but a lot of the Slavic churches will and both will use different definitions of what dogma is and isn’t to justify their respective opinions on the alleged church tradition. I heavily considered and defended Orthodoxy for a long time but ultimately they don’t have the philosophical, historical, and especially scriptural defense of each of their extra biblical traditions. Protestantism does indeed follow tradition we find it important, you’re just fighting a straw man of the reformed tradition because the reality is that you don’t actually understand it. The Church Fathers didn’t agree on much of anything though when they did we need to be sure to heed their opinions when it’s in line with scripture, but the fact that they disagreed and can’t build a consensus on most topics shows they aren’t infallible as individuals or as a community, so much of the Orthodox apologetic is to up charge the Fathers when it’s convenient and downplay them when it’s convenient. They’ll cite Justin Martyr to their defense but shy away when you mention the fact that Justin Martyr didn’t believe in the Trinity and that he thought Christ was a separate lesser god, but yet they still pray to him.
Harrowing of hell works really well with the thief on the cross if you take into consideration that Jesus is God and is always in heaven according to His divine nature.
So there is a big assumption that Heaven is a place that you go to. My interpretation from descriptions in the bible is that it's actually a time in the future. And the place is right here on earth.
@@FLPhotoCatcherThat’s a very literal interpretation of that passage. The sea is often a symbol of chaos in the both the Old and New Testament, so it is more likely (given the highly symbolic nature of apocalyptic literature like the Revelation of John) that the “no more sea” line is an Indication of the order and peace of the fully realized Kingdom of God.
@@NedJefferyYes and no. The problem is that the word “heaven” means different things depending on the context, both in the Scriptures and today. So Heaven can be used to describe both the place the redeemed go when they die and the renewed creation at the end of time.
Correction: the Archangel Michael contending with Satan is not a reference to the Book of Enoch but rather a reference to the Assumption of Moses (probably, the text we found was incomplete so we had to infer through quotations.) Jude does allude to Enoch in Jude 14.
In a study of revelations I heard that 666 actually meant that the devil could never get to be the number 7 (fullness or god) so he just tossed a lot of sixes instead trying to be a number greater than god but he can never be god
Hey Zoomer, I started listening to Calvin’s Institutes since you were talking about them at one point. Wow they are just incredible. The way he describes the character of God and man’s need for him (and futility without him) is just so eye opening. I just started listening to it yesterday and I’m already hooked!
You do realise that it's a heresy to disagree with the Church Fathers claiming that dragons and phoenixes don't exist, right? Thus saith St Bigchungus of Khazakhstan.
@@dreaddshorts Peace. No one denomination or tradition can claim to be the one true church since the church is the body of Christ and we’re joint to it by faith. Thus wherever there is faith, there is the church [Matthew 18:20]. There are many traditions which claim to stem from the Apostles. By the end of the second century simple details such as the date of Easter were disagreed upon by allegedly Apostolic traditions. An infallible revelation cannot contradict a prior infallible revelation and thus we should evaluate the later revelation of tradition by the earlier revelation of scripture. This is what Sola Scriptura means, not that Protestants deny traditions wholesale, but that we judge traditions using the scripture. Just as your Eastern Orthodox tradition believes the apostolic tradition of Rome to have fallen into error, we also believe you have erred and need reform! Salvation is by faith alone. It is impossible to do good works without faith [Hebrews 11:6]. James and Paul are using justification in two different ways. Paul uses the precise theological definition of being made righteous before God, whereas James uses it in the more general sense of meaning proven to be in the right, as seen in Luke 7:29. God certainly doesn’t need to be made righteous. Ultimately, you must not trust in your tradition for assurance of salvation, but instead look to Christ himself [John 6:47]! God bless.
Bro I think you need to study more profoundly the teaches of Jesus. He is criticising the fact that tradition and the word of God where at the same level as authority. Also you get saved by faith only as you can read in Ephesians 2. Also the thief that was crucified joined heaven just by faith. I agree that the facts are important and you know a true christian by his fruits but not the actions are saving us. It doesn’t matter your denomination to be saved if you believe that Jesus is King and God and if He is your Lord
@@rakalexandruesi3970 The teaching of Jesus is that you must obey Jesus. Jesus ordained his teachings to be transmitted and the remission of sins to be granted through the ministry of His twelve disciples. Only the presence of BOTH a valid ordination in succession from those disciples AND total orthodoxy of belief TOGETHER constitute the body of the Church.
Also, it was Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego who were thrown into the furnace, not Daniel. Rack, Shack, and Benny. Daniel was thrown into the lion's den instead. I think someone is long overdue to rewatch Veggie Tales...
Are the Nephilim really a mystery??? Like I feel like the angel thing is so straightforward and obvious tbh (you know the bible describes them as giants, right? Why would that happen by just two human groups interbreeding?)
The name, "Heretic," definitely fits for this point of view. Jesus was 5'5, what do you think David was when he slew the giant? The average height back then was short, and these, "Giants," were most likely 6'0. Not 50'0 like those weird Evangelical pastors like to preach. The righteous line of Seth is definitely a better understanding.
@OrthoJason ah yes, david was just a midget fighting an NBA player, and anyone who disagrees is a heretic. Jk no hard feeling but that is what your argument is.
Except it's really not. Angels don't procreate amongst themselves, how would they do it with humans. And the Bible doesn't call them giants. Enoch and the book of jubilees does. Enoch is deuterocanonical and Jubilees just straight up isn't.
6:56 Inspiring Philosophy actually has an hour long video on the book of Job and about how it may actually convey a different message than how most Christians see it from at a glance. I definitely can’t sum up the whole video because it’s a lot of depth that he goes into, however if I had to sum it up in a sentence, the message may be that it is about Job’s moralism, being that he believed he was righteous and did things just to get by, as opposed to hedonism which is just doing whatever you want. I would definitely give it a watch if you have the time.
My old pastor taught that Nero was a *potential* Antichrist, with there always being a candidate on earth, since the devil who gives power to the Antichrist doesn't know the day or hour any more than we do.
When talking about Behemoth and Leviathan, you forgot to mention that a lot of young earth creationists believe dinosaurs and humans lived together at one point, so the two beasts would be first-hand descriptions of something like a Brontosaurus and Mosasaurus /Plesiosaur (although the fire-breathing and multiple heads would be embellishments 😅)
That's what I believe. Dinosaurs did not live millions of years ago I believe the earth is young and dinosaurs were around until the flood and then after the flood only the specific kinds of dinosaurs survived to repopulate. Alligators and crocodiles look like dinosaurs and the only reason they aren't considered to be dinosaurs is because it messes up the evolution narrative that is pushed.
Baptism of the dead is another mystery that’s mentioned in a single verse, but never again. But the Mormons use it to say that you can get baptized for dead, unsaved relatives in order to save them.
You have a misquote here, the Archangel Michael quote comes from the Apocryphal book "The Assumption of Moses.", not Enoch. Jude quotes Enoch in Jude 14-15- “See, the Lord is coming with ten thousands of his holy ones, to execute judgment on all, and to convict everyone of all the deeds of ungodliness that they have committed in such an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things that ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” Just thought you ought to know. Love your stuff.
Saw a video about someone thinking the Bible is mentioning dinosaurs and actually used the example of the fact that almost every ancient culture has a believe in large reptiles or dragons. The Christians who believe this are also Christians that believe the earth is around 6 thousand years old. Honestly interpreting it that way kinda makes sense
It does make perfect sense. Only people who want the approval of the world think young earth creationism is dumb. I trust God not man. If that means I will be ridiculed, so be it.
Man I can’t wait for heaven to find about this stuff. To me this a great demonstration of how Christianity isn’t boring. The depth of the wisdom and knowledge and mystery of God is so amazing and interesting that such insults fall on deaf ears
Zoomer, 1) you quoted the wrong verse as a reference to Enoch. That verse is thought to refer to a no-longer-existing work called "The Assumption of Moses". You probably should have cited Jude 1:14-15 (which quotes 1 Enoch 1:9). 2) you called the doctrine of Christ's preaching in hell the harrowing of hell -- properly speaking the two are distinct. Notice, for example, that Irenaeus believed Christ preached to all who are in hell, but that he denies anyone left that place of waiting. (I'll get the references if you want.) The harrowing refers to removing people from hell, and was added sometime in the 4th century.
The book of Enoch Seems to be somewhat true as Jude literally says PROPHECIED implying that parts of it were divinely inspired a coincidence I heard from someone is that Jesus talks about how there will be no marriage in heaven a concept mentioned in the book of enoch so it seems like Jesus (and I heard other characters too like joel and I think peter) also mentioned the book of Enoch 🤔
I could be wrong but I wonder if the Leviathan referenced in the book of Job is actually Satan. It would make sense in the context of Job and how God has ultimately conquered Satan.
Only liberals that try to deny the inerrancy of scripture say that Job wasn't a real person. Other passages reference Job with Daniel and Noah in the same light. Even if these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they would deliver only themselves by their righteousness,” says the Lord God. Ezekiel 14:14 NKJV Blameless doesn't mean that he was sinless. It means that he walked in the fear of the Lord and had a righteous character. It says the same thing about Noah. Also, righteousness is counted by faith even in the old testament.
@@matt66716 because I like to know what are the core differences between different denominations are and by the grace of God to try to resolve the differences and become one church as the early Christian were as our Lord and God Jesus Christ established one church I believe we should be one 🙏 What about you my beloved brother what are you doing here?
@@Simeonf7750 thats a good reason but personally I don’t believe we will unite with the protestants hopefully we can reunite with the other orthodox and Catholics first. I just got a notification about this video because im in redeemed zoomers discord server
@@matt66716 Matthew 19 SEV - ማቴዎስ 26: Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” Pray for all Christians and also non Christians to find the true faith and unite as one to worship the one true God Jesus Christ of Nazareth ✝️🙏❤️🛐
The devil had a valid claim of the sin of Moses when he claimed credit that was due to God and he paid the price by being denied entry into the promised land. Michael couldn't call him liar.
Behemoth can represent the beast of the Earth in revelation while leviathan represents the beast of the Sea in Revelation. And Job shows how God ends up defeating them both?
6:55 Job isn't the only one to be called blameless, so to say he's too good to be true ignores the other "blameless" or "upright" people in scripture. The author obviously doesn't mean they were perfect the way God is, but they walked faithfully with God. In Luke 1 the priest Zachariah and his wife were also described as blameless.
The harrowing is probably my favorite story because christ is a redeemer and it only makes sense he would go down to hell to redeem the people that came before him, he is mankind's king and that means he wants for us to be in his kingdom. Nit to mention it parallels the story of soddom and gammorah wherein the angels are asked repeatedly if anyone in the city is good will it be spared, the number proposed getting smaller each time the question is asked. It's obvious that if he would be willing to spare the cities if they had ANY righteous citizens, then he would surely go to hell to redeem presumably virtuous pagans.
About Revelation, it starts by saying that it is a Revelation of Jesus Christ, given to the Apostle John. I think that, although the events are important, the whole idea is that, after all the storms, Christ wins, and we all live happily forever after.
I'd love more of these videos that are more informational about the bible, cause I sure as hell wouldn't notice any of these if I were reading through it.
Harrowing of hell is pretty important in Eastern Orthodoxy, many of our hymns mention it, so we kinda care more about that doctrine than Western Christians.
The book of Job is definitely talking about a dinosaur 🦕 not a hippo. The description of the behemoth does not fit a hippo. Just look how the text describes the tail of the behemoth. A hippopotamus’s tail is nothing like that
Facts! Look up Ta Prohm cambodian temple, you’ll find a stegosaurus carving to prove that there were dinosaurs in early human civilization. You can also look up Mesopotamian monsters in Paris, you’ll find Mesopotamian cylinders with carvings of sauropods fighting each other like giraffes.
I believe that the behemoth in Job 40 is most likely a sauropod dinosaur. The description of the behemoth, especially the tail like a cedar, fits well with a sauropod. If we also look back at mesopotamia history, you will find clues of dinosaurs. Such as the Mesopotamian monsters in Paris, which is a Mesopotamian cylinder with what appears to be sauropods fighting like giraffes. You can also find a stegosaur engravings at Ta Prohm, a Cambodian temple. What makes these significant to me is that it proves that God indeed created the dinosaurs, and that early humans saw them. It also proves there were dinosaurs aboard Noah’s ark.
By faith Enoch was taken up so that he should not see death, and he was not found, because God had taken him. Now before he was taken he was commended as having pleased God And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.
I think Enoch was referenced because it was commonly understood but also the part Jude quotes is just about how God will come to judge the world so it's nothing that scripture doesn't already mention.
Not to nitpick, but you never talk about Nebuchadnezzar's transformation into an animal, and as to what he exactly became, I interpret it as lycanthropy, but could you talk about it in a future video, it's fine if you can't though, or don't want to
Regarding the Harrowing of Hell. If Jesus is supposed to take upon himself the sins of the world, hell would be deserved would it not? And then there's the whole resurrection and ascention thing a few days later. So if he went to heaven after dying on the cross why come back, and then go up again.
LDS here, The Pearl of Great Price expands on Enoch quite a bit. He created the city of Zion and the entire city was translated into Heaven because of their righteousness.
@@JoWilliams-ud4eu still heretical nonetheless because the idea is if you didn't do enough good works you can essentially still lose salvation. (It's also not the place of the demons to take you to hell, nor angels to take you to heaven)
@@micahm7123First off, they're more of a metaphor than anything. Second, that was kind of a bad description of them by RZ. Third, there's a good video by Bible illustrated on them.
I personally believe Enoch and Elijah will be the two witnesses described in revelations, it makes sense that they both were taken up by God, however I don’t believe they were taken up into heaven at that time but rather held in perhaps some form of limbo awaiting the end where they would act as the witnesses. I may be entirely wrong and if I’m not being biblical in my view here please correct me, but I find it to be a fun fan fiction nonetheless.
1:51 bro, Michael arguing with the Devil isn't in Enoch. Origen mentions that the story is found in a book that he was aware of, that is lost to us, called the Assumption of Moses. But yeah it's not Enochic. However, Jude does quote from 1 Enoch 1.9 later on in the epistle (Jude 14)
The bible interprets the bible. 3:45 Job 1:6 Sons of God are spiritual beings. Jude 6-8 describes Angels having left their first estate and did SOMETHING that is comparable to Sodom and Gomorrah, and they are chained up forever. you might say "oh duh, demons get punished for rebellion." But not all demons are bound, these ones are. King Og, Goliath and the brother of Goliath were Nephilem but there were additional tribes of giants in other regions the kings during the age of Abraham wiped out. Job was the greatest man of his region, he describes himself how everyone would respect his wisdom and how he ministered to many, as do his friends acknowledge this as well. He even says if the roles were reversed, he would have been grieving with them, not accusing. He DID speak without wisdom though, Elihu who is the last to respond before God, states he will speak for God as Job had requested; Not putting fear on him and taking His hand far away. God says Job's friend spoke wrongly, but doesn't say Elihu did. So Elihu actually answers a LOT about the nature of God. As for the age of the book, people get that based on the land of Uz, which you can see in the Geaneologies as being around Peleg. Placing the STORY as being the oldest. Job DID screw up by attributing his suffering to God when in fact it was Satan. Job spoke without wisdom (though not a sin), everything Elihu said was correct. You might think "Well what's the difference if Satan beats you up or God ALLOWS Satan to beat you up?" God doesn't beat you up for no reason, he only gives just punishment. One day Satan will be gone, so people will not receive torment without reason. Behemoth and Leviathan specifically, physically described and that the identification of Behemoth matches a known creature validates scripture rather than invalidates it. What it invalidates is the idea of millions of years if the bible if accurately describing a dinosaur in the age of Uz and Peleg. Also compare the description of Leviathan to an Asian water dragon. Re Revelation we have specific descriptions of events which simply have not occurred. It's a matter of whether you take God at his word or you think you know better. 🤷♂
I'm surprised he didn't mention that one considering its the most thematically consistent view. Leviathan is mentioned in Isaiah 27, and definitely seems to be demonic.
What about: As Jonah was in the belly of the fish for three days and three nights, so shall the Son of Man be in the heart of the earth for three days and three night?
For number 5. I was always under the impression they are just talking about satan personified as different serpents Maybe I’m just missing something 🤷♀️
Sam renihan is a 1689 guy and he takes a view on Christs descension to the dead that i think is the most balanced. I think uou’d call him low church but he does a great job all the same
For Dinosaurs I have a theory In Genesis the first creatures God created were the sea and sky ones, since the sky is itself water it matches with the order "The seas create forms of life" (i'm Mexican so i don't know how it's written in english) and since to God a day it's like thousands of years for us it can perfectly fit in with the prehistorical life, with people saying birds came from dinosaurs (although i have no idea about the quadrupeds and the marine ones) And since i was a kid everyone i knew agree that the meteorite that killed the dinosaurs and hasn't appeared again was lucifer falling down But there IS a creator since other planets have water yet no life has been formed in thousands of years And about Revelations, man i'm convinced, John had a vision, the bible says that every era has had an antichrist, my guess the one in the time of the rapture will be the main actor And Jesús did say when entering riding a donkey that this time he came in peace, but when he does come back as a King he will be on his horse and sword ready to put an end to the darkness (That reminds of Noah in Xenoblade 3 having the Sword of the End fighting against the demon looking Moebius since the 3rd Xenoblade, the Lucky Seven/Sword of Origin/End/Eternity has the Logos crystal which represents the Son in the Trinity Takahashi knows his lore)
There is no theory. The Bible does not specifically mention loads of animals. Why should the Bible even mention dinosaurs? Dinosaurs existed before humans. So why would they be in genesis?
Imagine being a professional theologian and spending your entire career saying "Job probably wasn't real. He's too good to be true." And then meeting Job in heaven . . . Awkward
What I find funny about the whole Nephilim debate is that _nobody_ talks about the Rephaim. *Who are very clearly called giants.* 10:27 (Insert YEC screeching noises.) Ok, I really hate that "The Bible is not meant to be a science textbook." Ok, it's meant to teach us about God, does that mean it can't _include_ science? Who do you think *made* science?
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Couldn't an argument be made that Job is a Christophany considering he's descibed as blameless. The other obvious answer is just that Job is like Lot. Although yes a sinner God still spared Lot from the destruction of Sodom out of his grace in seeing Lot be righteous in his love for the lord and God's angels.
