I don’t feel sorry for him. He antagonized Meghan after the incident with an album and subliminal tweets. That jail phone call was the nail in the coffin. Innocent people aren’t apologetic 🤷🏾♀️
And what’s weird is. He wasn’t even sorry long term. If bro was sorry he wouldn’t fight all this and attack megan. So he like never meant any of it because like this was just to mitigate damage for him not to actually be sorry to Megan.
As someone who followed Tory I can’t understand how anyone could doubt he was guilty here. He has a history of being violent , whipping out his gun and lying. It all tracks
When had we whipped out a gun?…. And do you know him personally? So you believe he said dance bitch dance while shooting at meg? A lot of lies in this trial that are being overlooked
@@ApostolosFilms he’s threatened multiple people with guns before, and also committed assault and then lied about it (august alsina). You don’t need to know a person personally to remember their history of bullshit
@@marvelprince there is no article claiming he pulls guns out on people outside a random vlad interview. And with august yea cause he has an ongoing case of course he is going to lie. Just because a man beat another man up, and has been hyped a couple times. Doesn’t mean he looked at meg and screamed dance bitch dance while Kelsey did nothing. Why did meg lie so much? What about the rest of the evidence? Y’all want him in jail so bad yet there is a lot that shows everybody here is guilty
Shawn made a real valid point at the end of the vid. So many people wanna have guns but not all of them are mature enough to use it for the right reasons
it should be treated the same as like people who throw rocks off of overpasses. Charge them as if they were to accidently or purposely hit someone. That's why we don't do that ish. don't play with guns
its not even abt tory at this point. it’s like he’s become a vessel for ppl to direct their misogynoir towards megan and the facts can never dispute what he represents to them. kinda like chris brown, r kelly, etc.. they just back them forever
right I'm impressed by Sean and more importantly the audience. I wasnt expecting this from this side of black youtube but I have to remember Sean is a little more mature than other black streamers.
And if him shooting her resulted in a fatality how much time should he have gotten? He showed no remorse and continued to antagonize and ridicule this woman. I don’t get why folks are still defending trash.
From the outside looking in, I don't understand why so many of these prominent people fumble their own bags. Tory Lanez, Dababy, et al. Like, dude, you're earning millions of dollars. What's so hard about just getting the bag and laying low, live a life of luxury without the bullshit. I can't feel bad for him, this is all his fault.
@@SugaryFruit or just live on a tropical Island or something, travel and see the world, and spend time with family. I don't get these guys who lust after fame when they're already rich.
It’s the trauma and culture that’s ingrained in them to the point that they do this type of shit even when they can just lay low and live a life of luxury. It’s quite tragic, really.
As someone who was a big fan of his music output from 2015-2019, I’m honestly glad that he is getting what he deserved. Dude was an egotistical douche so I’m not surprised that he was found guilty of that bs tho. It sucks tho cuz I listened to his music a lot while I was making some of my own music in 2018 and 2019 to take some inspiration. This is y do not idolize anyone cuz most musicians and most celebrities r horrendous human beings, talented or not.
agreed, megan isnt his only victim. he's been terrorizing people for years like dax and travis scott for one. Tory is an amazing artist but a horrible person
Yall are ridiculous. All the shit black people been through, he should be allowed to let his ego shine however he see fit. When it comes to him shooting Megan, Kelsey needs to be eliminated from any suspicion before we start putting the whole shit on Tory. He said he never touched the gun, how the fuck he a horrible human being? The nigga was respectful of Megan the whole tiime. Asked his fan base not to attack her because he still had love for her and they shared a friendship. What sucks is no one will fact check any of the shit, they'll role with the surface level details.
Bruh, its not denial. No one can say with 100% certainty that he did it. Its possible. But Kelsey has GSR, an immunity deal, admitted to lying, fought Megan, eye witness places flashes coming from her, DNA not conclusive on a gun they alleged Tory fired 5 time. Come on, be honest. On top of Megan embellishing the story.
Got into a discussion with my boy and our coworker. Our coworker main defense was I'm not saying he didn't do it I'm saying there's not enough evidence to convict. And I was like aiight you got it bro
@@kadeemk4679 cuz he right tf how did they do a dna test and said no gun powder was on his clothes or hands. They said there is a video but nobody released it. Both tory and Megan r in the wrong because they both are not being hinest about what happened and jusy pointing the finger at each other
@@kenpark4724there was gun powder on him, even if he didn’t actually shoot her, if he was around the gun when it was shoot then there would be gunpowder on him.
@@kenpark4724 Where are you getting your information? There was gun powder on both him and Kelsey with a more concentrated amount of particulates on him indicating he was the actual shooter
It's lowkey scary how many people will cape for a dude in situations like this. I understand not having all the facts but people were literally making them up
this is an immature conversation that could only happen because ppl don't understand how the criminal justice system works. it's not a fair and just system, but there are certain approaches that are bound to fail. for example, Tory's attorneys lead him to believe that the jury would acquit him because the dna + the love triangle would put the suspicion on Kelsey. quite the contrary, if Kelsey pulled the trigger or even pointed the gun, Tory should have taken the stand and said so. jurors are not geniuses but they are also not idiots.
I have three friends who work as criminal defense lawyers in LA, and one is a DA. There was a massive fine and 2-year bar from the US option floating around. I figured dude would take that since the other option was a definite zero percent chance of winning. Did you read any of the actual court paperwork? Take all the drama out of the situation and tell me how much love you get from the jurors as a Canadian millionaire running around LA with a loaded and unlicensed firearm then saying you fired off "warning shots."
It's interesting to me how the Tory Stans seemingly don't see any issue with how much his defense's story kept changing over the course of the last couple of years. It went from Tory claiming that Megan never got shot, to his lawyers claiming that Kelsey shot Megan but that Tory was trying to wrestle the gun out of Kelsey's hands, to by the time it got to his newest legal team's attempt at filing a motion for a new trial, they were claiming that Tory never touched the gun. These are all 3 radically different scenarios they were trying to present, but his fans overlooked the inconsistencies, and instead tried to poison the well with unhinged conspiracy theories about Megan. This whole case needs to be taught in some kind of class about critical thinking and media literacy, because it's astonishing to see how many people are still caping for Tory, even with the overwhelming amount of evidence showing him to be guilty of all 3 counts.
Shawn you were wrong about one thing tory didn’t punch august for saying something about the trial he punched him because he didn’t shake his hand when august was leaving the concert dude has a lot of issues he was gloating bigging himself up after punching a handicap man technically 💀 every time he has a chance to do right he does wrong this was bound to happen
Lmao, listen man I wanted Tory to be innocent. I’m a huge Tory fan when it comes to his music but my guy is guilty asf. When I heard that phone call I just knew he did it. If Kelsey is the shooter, and Tory ends up in jail, you really think he’d be on the phone calm, apologising to the actual shooter for any wrong doing, when the reason I’m sitting in jail is because someone got shot. I’d be on that phone fuming. Come on guys.
You're a very smart and wise young man. Im very proud of you. Keep going strong and I will spread the word of your channel so others can subscribe. Keep up the great work. You are the only RU-vidr who summed this situation up in the most accurate and professional way. ❤
He’s getting in between 9 to 11 years his original charges aren’t what’s getting him it’s the gun enhancement charges thats now been added on is what getting him he should’ve taken a plea he was so cocky and thought he was invincible let this be a lesson learned to anyone
It's like the dude watched Fox News thought that it was Cali in reality. Then shows up to court and agrees with the prosecution on three of the charges that he pled not guilty to by sayign he fired two shots.
Yeah I was rooting for him but when the verdict came out - - I just thought “well that’s that” and then the phone call was released and it solidified he was guilty.
Am I tripping? It’s been a while, but the way I remember it, it sounded like he was apologizing for the altercation in general. We all know there was a big fight. He didn’t mention shooting her did he?
@@RagnarLoudpak how did it sound like he was apologizing for the altercation when he said he didn't remember what they were arguing about because he was so drunk?
@@RagnarLoudpak even if that's the case, and there is very well a small possibility of that, then he's still dumb for how ambiguous he worded the call. He gotta be smarter than that.
I enjoy some of the songs he did and still listen on occasion, but man it's a shame he really cooked himself with this bs. Acted like he didn't do it, drug Megan through the mud, and now is facing 20+ years, possibly cooking his son's childhood and adulthood, causing a huge rift in his family, and overall ruining his career and life possibly forever. Do NOT get drunk with a firearm and NEVER talk to two girls if they both know each other. I wouldn't do it in general but DAMN that was dumb as fuck man 🤣
He coulda gotten a shorter sentence had he just all the music he could and then taken the Plea Deal but NOOOOO he wants to be a face of fighting the system as a guilty man. SMDH
Omgggg the common sense analysis of that call I’ve been trying to sayyy. I don’t know where people are hiding their brains. He can’t be telling Kelsey “I know Megan won’t talk to me again” when the person he supposedly cheated on is Kelsey. Shouldn’t it be Kelsey that should be apologized to????????
Or maybe he apologized because he ruined their friendship by blurting our he was fucking her best friend . I feel like when he said “ she not fwm no more “ was because he did cause them to fight . But that’s just my opinion
@@destinixshakur yeah but even if he’s apologizing for ruining their friendship, shouldn’t he still be more apologetic towards Kelsey than Meg if it’s really about cheating ??? Or maybe just maybe he knows he’s hurt her leg and she wouldn’t want to talk to him after that ?
@@chibaby800 I think she’s Megan would be mad because he caused her ti get hurt . I think Kelsey was in self defense against Megan and pulled the gun . I think she won’t claim it because the gun was hot . I feel he was very apologetic to Kelsey and Kelsey must’ve felt that way to even accept the call . If someone shot my girl I’m not talking to them . I feel like she picked up the phone because she knew he was gon incriminate himself and it take the heat off her . Also , he dedicated an entire album allegedly to either her or Megan or maybe he mixed them both together for the character to describe but I can see him apologizing for causing the fight that caused Kelsey to do what she did . That’s just my opinion
Been following Tory Lanez since 2011 and his Mr. Peterson mixtape. This whole ordeal has been surreal. I'd have never imagined dude was even capable of something this dumb.
This man didn’t shoot that horse in the foot , and furthermore why would even target another high profile celebrity without any reason . Megan and Kelsey were fighting that night and Kelsey grabbed the gun and was trying to shoot Megan however Tory grabbed it and send off warning shots to break it up.
@@amosross22 Dude are you an adult? Because I refuse to believe you are being this dumb. Tory claimed the gun as his and took it to trial on a case where it was a Canadian millionaire with a loaded, unlicensed firearm, shooting it off in the city with multiple people seeing it. Gascon goes lenient on kids who don't know better. Not foreign nationals who he thinks are influencing the very kids he's trying to be progressive about. Taking this to trial was one of the most insane moves since Ar-Ab and his self-snitching and his legal team letting him take lead and mouth off at the sentencing. Take Meg out of the equation since you clearly have some issue with her and tell me how taking the case to trial makes sense? Since he claimed the weapon as his no contest, explain how he didn't just cough up the money and take the 2 year time out in Canada, a free man? Send off warning shots to break it up is crazy dude. If that scenario happened he's a whole adult with a kid, leave the situation. Do you know how much time one bullet fired risks you in Cali with his situation? Warning shots. Jfc dude.
@@amosross22 prince from love and hiphop, august alsina, his ex gf, travis scott, literally soooo many examples of ppl that tiny angry man has hurt he’s has gotten away with it for too long and he’s rightfully being held accountable for everything he’s done.
the spectacle of this is so weird to me. I know more about this case than anyone who is not Megan should. it's a strange narcissism to constantly be in the press seeking attention. I simply do not care what happens to this man now why are e still being shown anything about him?
because people who hate women want him to be a martyr so bad. they're still going on about how she initially said she wasn't shot when that point is totally irrelevant to the truth that she was.
Today little man said he knows he didn't do it but in this phone call he says he was drunk asf and didn't know what was going on. Dude was angry drunk and blacked out. He doesn't even know what he did, that's the only reason he thinks he can claim innocence but he knows that won't fly in court lol. One day he might grow a conscience and take responsibility.
Megan and Kelsey are being painted as being belligerent alcoholics based off this situation.. while Tory who admitted he was too drunk to remember what happened that night is painted as an innocent victim in this situation. Misogyny.
Cocky or not, he was going down spectacularly off the gun charges alone. He was in Cali with a loaded and unregistered weapon as a man with a previous firearms conviction. Everything else was icing on the cake.
Bro u nailed this explanation. I said the same sht. Why is he apologizing for fckin when they both knew what was goin on? N most chicks will still talk to u even if u do fck around on em so this sht doesn't make sense. Dude was mentioning megan to the homegirl he was fckin so shy was he apologizing to shawty? Thts why i fck wit ur content cuz ur reasons r valid. dude sh0t her. Wtf is hard abt this?😂😂😂
i was on the fence kinda leanin on tory not firing the gun but as soon as that call dropped i knew he was guilty of something more than sleeping around/disrespecting women in they faces(i.e. him firing the gun)… edit: i remember when it first happened ppl were saying he was apologizing for tryna get with kylie jenner that night (which i didn’t agree with anyways tho)
Yup his little fanboys can stay delusional if it makes them feel better. He should have taken accountability and just took the plea deal he was offered.
@@captainnappyhair why cause we still like a good chunk of his music?!? All of us ain’t bothering anybody. Not to mention the barbs never let shit go they’ll cyber bully you off the internet if they could. Tory’s base isn’t big enough to do that nor are they that emotionally fragile
He speaking too much truth about this apology over the phone. If Tory were going to apologize to ANYONE about sleeping with two people, it would be Kelsey because she was in the dark about the whole situation. Instead, he is deferring more to Megan because he performed more harm towards her. Meg would have knowing slept with someone Kelsey was already sleeping with. Meg doesn’t need an apology. She committed the wrong doing. Why are people in such denial?
They think they’re doing Tory a favor by saying he’s apologizing for sleeping around? You really gotta hate that man to say he should automatically apologize to a woman just for sleeping w her
He needs to apologize to his son since whatever the payoff from this was to him is worth more than time with him clearly. Taking it to trial as a Canadian millionaire caught with a gun, unregistered, loaded, and then claimed by him as having fired is one of the most insane moves if you're trying to avoid going to prison. He needs to apologize to all his fans who listen to his music too.
If he apologized for messing with both of them and the situation getting as hectic as it did I 100% can see him apologizing like he did. And not for shooting Meg. I mean I still maintain the idea that Kelsey shot her and what fucked Tory yo wa Shia witness who met with prosecutors right before trial which is weird.
@@diarn345 he could easily be apologizing for playing a part in escalating the situation by blurting out he was fucking Meg behind Kelsey’s back. That call was from the same night. He probably hadn’t even talked about what he could and couldn’t say should and shouldn’t do before that phone call
@@TheSamanthaEdit no he did not girl are you late? Their was FEMALE DNA and it came out that the prosecution hid the evidence that his DNA was NOT on the gun .
@@diarn345 I think he apologized because of causing best friends to fight and cheating etc . Or maybe he felt bad about them fighting and watching Kelsey getting beat up . This just my opinion
Well I heard from the RU-vidr Karceno that this was going to happen. And there were people saying that he was lying. But now, the truth has come out and he new trial was denied. That shows that he was right all along
The reason he got 20 years isnt just the assault on Meg, he was on parole and was not supposed to have a gun and he is Canadian so he's technically a tourist that's a felon on parole that violated parole by having and discharging a weapon and there was a female victim...if he did this in Russia or Korea he would've gotten way more time or death penalty
Also why would Kelsey sit on the phone with him while he apologized to Meg 🤦🏾♀️ I wouldn’t want to hear that .. only thing she would care about is him saying sorry about the shooting
He has more of a case for an appeal than a brand new trial. With all the evidence they had before and newly stacked evidence including allegedly a video that proves his evidence, he could easily win under an appeal.
Not if roc nation pay off the legal system . It’s crazy because Jay z allegedly son is suing the police etc because he says roc nation was paying them to dismiss his case . The truth gon come out soon or Jay Z gon fall and I’m glad to see it
Tory isnt finished. He will go to jail for probably about 1 year in Canada and i am sure he will be able to come back into the country. The rap community, let me be clear, the black community will still support the dude.
Bro that Megan chick was absolutely bias and who Ak was following too😂.. she totally played down detrimental evidence against Tory and gassed up that bs story Tory was going with. She made Ak look dumb as hell in the end😂😂
Wdym at home? The government got terrified of the uptick in recent gun violence when Brampton had its' 17th homicide in one year and has invested 353 million dollars into making sure there are after school programs and sports leagues so the gang violence stops. This is why he should not have taken it to trial. “Today's announcement will help prevent gun crime and gang violence in our community by directly supporting local initiatives and our youth. It is by funding these types of projects that we contribute to building an even safer Canada for present and future generations.” - The Honourable Omar Alghabra, Minister of Transport “My number one priority as Minister of Public Safety is keeping Canadians safe. Investments in grassroots efforts in Peel Region are essential to addressing the social conditions that lead youth and young adults to get involved in a life of crime. Put simply, we must stop gun and gang violence before it starts.” - The Honourable Marco Mendicino, Minister of Public Safety “We know that the best and most effective way to fight crime is by preventing it from happening in the first place. That starts with helping youth at risk of becoming involved in crime choose a better, more positive life. With today’s announcement, our government is investing in real, community-based solutions that will build safer neighbourhoods from here in Churchill Meadows to Sawmill Valley and all across the Region of Peel.” - Iqra Khalid, Member of Parliament for Mississauga-Erin Mills “I am pleased funding is coming for crime prevention to keep our communities safe and help our young people. With support and programs in place young people can make good choices that prevent crime where it may start. It is important we have the right resources in place for prevention programs that can make a difference to a young person’s future and our safety.” - Mayor Annette Groves, Town of Caledon “I campaigned on improving community safety. I want to thank the Government of Canada and our local MPs for today’s Building Safer Communities announcement. It is important to address the root causes of gang violence. This is a very good investment in Peel Region” - Mayor Patrick Brown, City of Brampton Peel is a diverse and growing region with unique, evolving needs around safety and well-being. We welcome this much-needed investment and are eager to collaborate with local organizations to help address gun and gang violence in our communities. As we continue to focus on reducing harm, these funds will strengthen existing programs that support at-risk youth while increasing our capacity to promote upstream opportunities that lead to better outcomes. Partnerships help make change possible. We are grateful to the federal government for its ongoing support to make Peel a safer community.” - Regional Chair Nando Iannicca, Region of Peel Everyone knew Gascon was going to skewer him he took it to trial since that dude wants this level of political unity for the kids but it's not there in LA. It's like he watched Fox News and thought Gascon was just letting people out the jail if they were black and did crimes 😩😩
Also like Meghan did get shot and it's either Tory or Kelsie and idk about you but I probably wouldn't be calling a girl yo apologise if she shot someone the night before
its rare for dna to be the main evidence that convicts someone in a shooting case … so yes dna error wouldnt have made a difference given all the other evidence that was stacked against tory.
You wouldn't support someone being convicted solely on DNA evidence, so why are you in support of someone being found not guilty based on a lack of DNA evidence? It's not the end all, be all like some of you seem to think it is.
Also Shawn I think he might be apologizing to Kelsey because Megan probably wasn't trying to talk to him because of the fight. He was so apologetic to Kelsey because that was the only person he can even apologize to. He was probably feeling like shit so I can see him doing that. He was dumb he should have just been quiet but shooting Meg or not he felt responsible for the entire situation and it was clearly eating him up inside. He chose to call Kelsey instead of stfu.
I'm not calling the shooter to apologize. I'm calling my lawyer to get me out. His driver should have cleared this up. I think what ever is in those sealed documents will tell the truth to which the judge said it can incriminate you.
@@katrinalongmire6535 i said that giving him bail that the shooting wasn't intentional no matter who did it. either way he's dumb he shouldn't have been calling anyone period after that
@@katrinalongmire6535 that is what is laughable. Why you calling the shooter? The whole time, Tory’s team had more heat for Megan than for the person they claimed actually shot her. Why did Tory’s team not bring his driver to the stand if his testimony was going to be a 100% slam dunk for Tory?! The truth is that the driver was likely going to get on the stand and claim the 5th, too. He was going to claim he don’t remember, too, just to try and make the case messy so it could get a mistrial. And dumb fans are responsible for pumping up Tory and his team’s heads into thinking that a non-guilty verdict/mistrial was possible. They partially responsible too, lmao.
@@katrinalongmire6535 or maybe he called to apologize to the shooter because he felt guilty causing the fight that lead to the shooter to pulling the gun out . I don’t understand why Kelsey won’t just come out and say it was self defense . It’s already out they both was sleeping w / the same man . Kelsey is a chess master fr
I used to be a big fan of his music. I ain’t really care for what he did outside of music. But honestly even though at first him being guilty to me was bullshit, it is what it is. He had a chance to say his what he wanted on stand and didn’t. I don’t feel sorry. I just don’t wanna see or hear bout this shit no more. Pack him up already
I found him due to the trial and trying to figure out how I missed a huge ass R&B artist. People online be making up numbers I swear and he makes dece music too not sure if they were fans or just there for whatever reason. It was explained to me he should have never taken it to trial though. I'm floored with the legal strategy they went with. He could've gotten aggravated mayhem apparently. A DA I know was saying Gascon would be hitting him with the millionaire from Canada running around unregistered and loaded firearm, negligent discharge, and influencing poor kids to do the same charge and that the Meghan bit wouldn't factor in to the sentencing or charge unless she was permanently disabled since that's the requirement for aggravated mayhem.
i like tory lanez and the 2 albums before his more recent (alone at prom and playboy) were great but this recent one showed his limitations talent wise and he only talks about one thing through this entire catelog so the people riding him and are even stupid enough to compare him to the WEEKND is just pure overrating. not really related to his trial and shit but just wanted to get that off my chest. that dude does not compare to the weeknd at all or even people like brent faiyaz for that matter
His last 3 albums besides alone at prom have been about him trying to gaslight the public into thinking he didn’t shooting Meg and him taunting her that stuff came back on him 10 fold 11 years is what he’s getting most likely
@@alien-hs1zn i won’t speak on that because women will lie for their pride like the girls that lie about rape but he probably did do it. but music wise i can’t stand his fans. they compare him to the weeknd even say he’s better when he doesn’t even come CLOSE
