I test drove a Toyota recently. The sakes rep was so obnoxious playing games. I sat at his desk for 10 minutes while he talked to his “manger” he was shocked when I walked over to his manager area and said I was leaving. No matter how good you think your product is I ain’t playing games.
The reason they are having record profits is with the high MSRP's, they are making 20 - 40k per vehicle now instead of the 10k they were making when the msrp's were lower. Greed will always give high returns.
I'm so glad I bought myToyota 4Runner back in 2016 for only $35,000 and said it was my forever car. Glad I don't have to deal with buying one of the newer Toy's.
Bullshit! When you sell less units and make more profit they are gouging their customers for profit. Product is more tinny now too. I just always bought new every 2-3 years. Not any more.
Keeping my old 4-Runner. I had a minor off-road fender bender, but plan to replace all parts and have the body shop do everything necessary to make it last!
I have never had luck with Toyotas ..I decided to give them another try and I'm definitely not happy with this car .. Im having issues with it already ..not major but annoying
Lower labor, lower quality of parts, higher MSRP. Thats how. They are relying on the fanboys that will buy whatever junk they put out. These aren’t the Toyotas of old.
I always tell my family, you can get a Toyota or a Lexus. However, their arrogance in price.increases, horrible distributor and dealer markups coupled with not being able to make reliable new cars/motors is a major problem. I would not buy one now. Not that it will destroy the brand, but their prior stellar engineering has gone by the wayside, perhaps temporarily. Not that Toyota is alone, but this was Toyota's value proposition. It is presently failing at their strongest attribute.
As long as people pay the ridiculous prices(while complaining about the high prices) they will be fine, regardless of how much plastic and bad engines the vehicles are!
I am currently dealing with a seal failure on one of the rear cab's 2 vents that cannot even be seen without taking the cover off the rear cab wall or looking at it between the cab and truck bed with a flashlight! Cheap vents and poor sealant. Serious water leak and thousands of dollars of interior carpet replacement. Make sure you get these checked if you have a tacoma. Mine is a 2016 but the problem is not isolated to that year only. Save yourself a lot of $$$$ and grief. This should be a recall issue!!!!!!!!!!
I bought a 2022 Toyota Corolla SE and the paint is so thin on the car the slightest touch and you can see metal. The windshield is a joke too, tiny abrasion all over it. Drive facing the Sun in the morning and you will see this problem. Road noise is to loud, the quality of Toyota is going down.......
Now. This makes the argument against legit. I was looking at the 1958 LC hard. Local dealers are will above the 61K (including delivery and taxes) to damn near 65! 4Runner is in my future instead.
Anyone purchasing a turbo honda need special help. Whats wrong with people Honda has a POS and they keep selling it. Everyone with a 1.5 engine should be given an engine replacement . WHAT they've done is criminal, but people are stupid , keep buying!!!
At least they are owning up to the problem and will correct it! Take a look at Ford and Gm problems and don’t forget about Kia and Hyundai who have major engine failures!
Lol. Man. Define "awhile"? Toyota will be just fine. I'm just waiting on the "H2o" car for real. My Avalon will hold out until then. Companies have hiccups. You're going to tell me what? Buy American? Lol. The Unions killed that. Wait. European? Never have the parts needed in their non modular vehicles. Maybe a Honda? Yeah maybe them. Yawn. Boring design and expensive upkeep. I run through cars and your "awhile" statement is intriguing. Mechanically? My Toyoz have stood well toe to toe with its competitors. They're on a new engine design. Years from now people will be screaming how awesome they are. I say you souldve waited for the kinks in a clearly new Mechanical system.
In my area Toyota dealers give no discounts on their cars. They do on their trucks.I can go to the Nissan dealer and get a 3 or 4 thousand discount on the Altima.
Yeah and that Altima is going to lose its transmission at 50,000 miles and be worth half as much as an equivalent Toyota or Honda in five years. Don’t take the Nissan bait.
@@thomasjohn6041 Sorry, but one unverifiable example from a random fanboy RU-vidr does not overturn what an entire industry has grown to know and understand about your car! 😂
Toyota doesn’t give discounts because their cars are in high demand unlike Nissan. Why would they give you $5000 off with somebody that will pay full price? They’re not losing a customer they’re just giving it to the person that will pay full price and not losing money. No business would do this any differently. Btw, here in Canada it’s still a 4 month+ wait for most of their models, and all models on wait list that come in are already sold.
I left Toyota had a 2023 highlander with 4 cly turbo nothing but issues, Toyota always gave hard time with fixing even had only 12,000 on the highlander traded it for a Jeep Cherokee 2021 22,000 miles
I hope Toyota enjoys their massive profits on the junk. They’re building these days. They’ve lost me as a customer forever. I’m picking up my new Chevy Colorado ZR2 on Monday. I was going to buy a Tacoma again, (would have been my third one) but when I saw the sticker prices and the shortlist of features, I ran away. Not to mention all the things that are breaking on the new Toyotas as well. I don’t think those profits are gonna hold up if they keep this trend going.
This is actually fact and has the paper trail to justify. So the early adopters are crying because well too soon! Second gen/new model year under this current engine lineup should be fine. All car companies suffer this. Toyota virtually changed all models generations simultaneously. Problems were bound. They do simulation not real world pothole ish. 😂 They'll be fine. All the Capitalist crying about profit margin. Lawd.
Canadian here. Toyota lost me as a customer while looking at the Rav 4 hybrid which was a serious consideration for me. Demo models to drive and test, but no inventory for 6 - 18 months. I called several high volume Toyota dealerships and even a Lexus dealer in the greater Toronto area and was told the same thing. Coincidentally the dealership did have Tacomas and Tundras collecting dust in the parking lot. No inventory = lost customer. Bye bye Toyota, I won’t wait.
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Toyota remains the industry's number one retail brand in the first half of 2024. TMNA second quarter U,S, sales totaled 621.549 vehicles up 9.2 percent on a volume basis. Toyota sold 11.2 million vehicles worldwide in 2023.Revenue in North America is approximately 138.9 Billion U.S dollars. You should focus on Nissan, they are actually in trouble in North America.
Toyota maxed out all its "credit cards". Total debt at world record of $241 billion. Not enough money to properly make engines and transmissions. The 100,000 engine replacement is the beginning. There is 100,000 transmission replacement coming.
I just spent 2 months trying to buy a certified Toyota or Lexus. They have some serious issues and this comes from a 30 year buyer of those brands. I walked away from them due to the way they treated me and bought a new VW Jetta. I have not bought a VW since 1990. The Toyota and Lexus dealers give you a price and then add 3 to 4 thousand dollars of dealer mark up. Many will not even return your calls about a car. I have never been treated like this when I have purchased a car and I will not go back to Toyota or Lexus again. They lost a customer for life!
I empathize with you. That's a "Dealer" issue however. Plus the Kool aid has been guzzled. All the old V6s are getting snatched up. Big time. Good luck with VW. Left them when the Jetta engine went up in smoke. Literally.
@@Capius1272 I certainly understand, it was just incredibly frustrating trying to deal with Lexus and Toyota dealers though. I plan on changing my oil every 5k miles, instead of the recommended 10k, I do that with all my cars. I have no idea how the VW will hold up, but I’m keeping my fingers crossed. I had a certain amount of cash set aside to purchase a new car, I hate car payments. So, when I made that deal on the VW, it was really the clear choice for me, they were offering a 2k rebate , on top of marking the car down a lot. If my kids stop borrowing my car, I shouldn’t put too many miles a year on it!😂😂
Toyota is on a downward spiral out. Mazda will be the new Toyota in the U.S. like they have been in Canada. They are producing far better cars and at a much better price.
@@taxationistheft7Why wouldn't you want a Mazda lol? They look better than toyota's Hyundai's or Kia's. They're more reliable than Hyundai and Kia, and consumer reports are even putting them above Honda in the last 2 years. Mazda's have a better interior, the cx5 and the cx90 and cx70 are made in Japan where quality matters.
Toyota dealerships have gotten EXTREMELY ARROGANT about pricing…still see dealership mark ups and “market adjusted price”. And to top it off the new models/engines have had issues and not reliable like they used to be
Toyota is great at staying with motors, transmission, etc. that are reliable. But unlike other manufacturers they have been slow to experiment and modify vehicles except for maybe Prius. Maybe the change was too much of a drastic change? I can say typically Toyota will work with and support their customers.
This. This. Also this. They moved forward a bit too aggressively. Both brands. This. All without letting the vehicles experience real world driving. Still a fan. Waiting to see how the 1958 and the 4Runners reception is. Or unlike those adopting out the gate? I'll get a '26 model.
This. I'm a fan. But this makes too much sense. To Toyota go back to R and D where you tested the engine/motor marriage 5 - 10 years before release. Then sell your perfection to us for 30 years until the market catches up. Oh and your delivery cost are bunk. You assemble the vehicles here in the states. Stop it already. Dealers you aren't off the hook...
New CEO needs to go. More interested in profits at all cost including quality. We own three Toyotas and I fear we will look elsewhere for our next car.
I plan on buying a 2025 Camry in the winter, when there are more Camry's on the lots. My Father loves to haggle and he's good at getting a great price, so I plan on flying out and letting him have his fun. In the meantime, I am going to go to the local Toyota dealerships where I live and see what kind of deal I can get. And basically have fun messing with them! lol. Currently, their interest rate is too high. And I don't buy above MSRP. This is how they are so profitable.
Can’t find a new Camry on the lot to test drive. Need to drive one first. They say I have to order one which will take 6 months. If you have a car to trade in, what’s it going to be worth in 6 months? All the other car makes have inventory on their lots. What gives??? We have a 21 year old Camry, and it’s been a great car since new. Gonna keep it, but would like a new one now.
I purchased a '21 Tundra because my instincts were telling me that the new generation would have numerous problems. These manufacturers make huge profits only to further cheapen their products the following year. We are now at the point of Toyota selling cheap plastic, adding problematic and unreliable turbos and raising their MSRP's to levels that are no longer affordable. They've lost their loyal fanbase because they refused to listen to them. Now they are left with inferior products that no one wants. They could only fool people for so long until they figure it out. Affordable reliability is what Toyota stood for, but that is now a thing of the past!
Then you're a smart consumer. They CHANGED the whole drive train!! And numerous models!! All at once. If anything it shows that ambition isn't a goal but a gift. Slow and steady Toyota. Slow and steady. You pushed on us a 30 old engine and we still bought in. Relax. Breathe.
I hardly every comment on YT videos but I can't help but give you my two cents about current Toyota. I've been in the car business for almost 20 years. Prior to COVID, I was 100% confident to declare Toyota my most recommended brand to family and friends. Now feeling hurt, never expected Toyota to turn into such a POS like it is today. So damn sad for what used to be a trusted company.
How'd they lose your trust? You are in the "business" the markups are on the "business" end. My local dealer is charging almost 1700 over MSRP and delivery, taxes for a LC 1958. Or are you talking the fact they tried to be too ambitious with the new generations and a untested mechanical system? In a Prius okay. In a full blown truck body? Hold up. Or poor business modeling in which they are overlapping they're vehicles? I'd buy a Crown or a 2022/23 Avalon way before I consider an entry Lexus.
In FL, AC Highlander went out-Toyota Dealer wanted $4,000 for compressor replacement. No way, waited a week, they went down to $3,000. Said no way. Waited another week, they offered $2,000-took it as average cost. Bought a Kia Telluride, done with Toyotas after 25 years….they lost it.
Lets see how your comment ages... I believe it will age like MILK 🥛... Tesla and Chinese are going to eat Toyotas lunch... just like Japanese conquered American car market in the past... Toyotas arrogance, like the American legacy manufacturers, are DEAD...
Interest rates were high but even after bank of canada reduced prime rate, Toyota canada didnt. Still charging 6.69 and similar rates. Consumer notice that together with ridiculous wait times,. Almost all Honda dealerships in my city have CRV hybrids available with rebates and less interest rates,.
I want alot of buyers to look elsewhere for a vehicle so the few others can get their Toyotas quicker. What the hell is with demand that it takes over a year for some models. Go buy a Nissan, Honda, Mazda, Tesla people 😅 Or Hyundai, KIA.
Lol! I'm with ya! My sister waited 6 months for the Red Crown. But she clearly loves it. Road tripping to Florida from Ohio after just visiting Alabama. So yeah. Hate on Toyota so those of us looking for specifics can get ours 😂
Sorry to say but toyotas went downhill with quality and workmanship when they started making them in the US!!! Japanese workers are under more pressure to make quality cars and trucks and live for their companys, just not the same in the US!! Use to be that way in the US in the 50s and 60s but not anymore!!
Haha. You said the quiet part too loud. The greed here is insane. Auto workers want up to 100$ an hour but have no American pride in their output. Just lookee at the big 3! Before you call me a liar. When the workers find out about Toyotas record profits? Woah boy!!! Yet they'll forget about the engine defects and the recalls because of poor manufacturing and development 😂😅! You stirred the pot fella. But you're 💯 correct, lol! Robotics just put the foot to the door.
@@dlbsystVolume. Basic economics. You heard the man. 250000 units of Rav4 many of which are built in Kentucky. Export those numbers all over the world? Cost.
Toyota is carrying Billions and Billions of debt. They are in a Financial crisis. As of June 30, 2024, Toyota Motor's total long-term debt was $241.82 billion. This includes all current and non-current debts. Here's some more information about Toyota's debt: Net long-term debt: As of March 31, 2024, Toyota's net long-term debt was $22.805 billion, a 233.56% increase from 2023. Long-term debt: As of June 30, 2024, Toyota's long-term debt was $142.037 billion, a 6.68% increase from 2023.
Yup. This. I thought they were assembled with the engines and motors shipped here for assembly only. Even still. This is a very true statement on so many levels.
Correct me if I am not correct, but isn't Honda and Mazda in the same place? If I recall correctly, Toyota first admitted that it lied on its safety records, followed by Honda?
I have been dragged to the shores of misery with Toyota. After 40 years of loyalty I've been forced to jump to Subaru. My 2020 Camry AWD developed a vibration no one could diagnose. 2024 Forester Touring. I have to admit, it seems like it's a higher quality product. Interesting.
Trucks and SUV’s look great. Quality has dropped due to loss of their classic V6 dual port /direct injection motors. Plus dealers are jacking prices past 100K for some models. Insane. Wait for the lease returns in 2 years.
Highlander sales are broken down now between the regular version and the L version. which is new....Half of the Highlander sales are now for the L model , so the overall sales numbers for Highlander are not down but even or up for 2024 !!! Please look at the sales numbers before reporting to the public !!! Crown is an all new model and 14,000 sales for the entire quarter 3 months is not very good ... when Buick sold 14,000 similar size LaCrosse or Lucerne models for 3 months.. it was reported that they had terrible sales !! The media also reported that Tesla sales were terrible in CA , way down from last year .. but they failed to report that the Model Y is the best selling product, car or truck in CA .. by far .. and the best selling car is the Model 3 in CA ....facts are facts .. many liberal media people now don't like Elon since he supports Trump.....Look into the numbers before judging.
First the Toyota tacos gram replacement on thousands of them now that was a wake up call then they go with twin turbo 4 cyl. I had the first taco with a single turbo always spun the big wide tires in the rain and snow but it also was a rust bucket sold it for 500.00
Sales are down due to certification sorrows and schandalig, costs Toyota hundreds of thousands of sales. It is not due to lack of demand...sales are very good in the Usa and Europe, down 11% in China. Given the factcthat Toyota has still no Bev's line up in place, a good result.
They are making junk. They have ruined almost everything. They went woke,and everything turned to sh%$. I loved toyota. I have 2 in the driveway now. Best cares ever made. Now ,they are just trash on the level of Kia. Even a Kia doesn't need 3 engines in 35.000 miles.
If you really stop and think about it, the auto industry as a whole isn’t doing all that well right now. Toyota and Honda seem to be the least smelly turds in the bowl by far, and I’m a personal fan of neither brand!
Toyota charging $10K - $15K over MSRP completely negates any perceived QRD. Makes no sense to buy a Toyota now. Smart people are aware of this. When I see a new Toyota on the road, which is rare, I think of P.T. Barnum. LOL
No.. just the 3.4 twin turbo and they all addressing it.. Toyota and Lexus on number one.. in sales and reliability. Honda is second. AND THEN THERE ARE THE REST OF THE UNDERWHELMING BRANDS..👇💩 0:00