Owner probably ran his truck constantly with low fuel and just overheated that pump. Especially in hot 100 + weather. Keep some fuel in that tank. That goes for any Vehicle Manufacturer that uses an electric in tank pump
Raul Lazaro Fill up with a quarter left that’s what I do in my car I look at the quarter mark as empty that way my pump stays mostly covered in gas and it lasts longer. There’s not much to the pump it’ll last forever if you don’t run your tank low. Keep it above a quarter.
Ryan Scherbluk in cold climates and snowy areas never run your vehicle below 1/3 of a tank that way if you hit the ditch you can still idle for a while, for example a Subaru Outback can idle for 30 ish hours on a full tank of fuel before running out, that 30 plus hours buys you time
Yep, that's one of the first things i learned on the car tech course i'm on that surprised me. For years the myth was if you run a car low on fuel all the time you're dragging through lots of crap/sediment from the bottom of the tank through the system, but it's the fuel that cools the pump,ad lack of fuel overheats it, something i never knew before. :-)
Christopher magee · Every once in a while fill the tank with 93 octane. Don't just keep on buying the same 87 octane gas. Also every 2 months dump a bottle of fuel system cleaner. This will help maintain the system and the fuel pump run smoother and last longer. If you just keep on putting in the cheap 87 octane. Sure it's cheap. But you will probably pay for it when you least expected 🤔. Yes you also have to try and keep the tank a little above a quarter of tank filled. The gas their selling these days. Tends to be more volatile. I guess too much ethanol or alcohol beeing mixed in with the gas maybe allowed by the owners of the gas station. You don't see any inspectors looking into that part of the problem😔
I have the same problem, kinda. Replaced the Fuel Pump. filter and fuel pump sleeve. Still wont start, but when i turn the key on, no check engine light. No fire, nothing. I am thinking that I have a bad sensor somewhere, and i am waiting on my tundra book wiring diagram to come in so i can run it down. Also, i have a 2001 Tundra 4.7. 391k miles, first problem i had with this truck. I MISS MY BABY!!!
I live in Dallas. And I had enough this year of the heat. The humidity today was brutal... 1 more week...And running vehicles low on gas to many times will burn them pumps out quick..
@@nightfangs2910 I can tell you this. The Ford E-250 cost $350.00 at the dealer. Then $200.00 for me to replace them. As the owner of catering shop has replace his 4 times. As his employees run out of gas all the time. And it only takes 2-3 times and they will say good bye! Least it's empty when I have to drop the tank. Takes me 30 mins to change it now.
Man, dont say that. I just moved to Dallas 4 weeks ago and so far the weather's been amazing. But, I know it's coming. However, I came from the swamp in Louisiana and there's NO WAY you guys have that kind of humidity. Not even close.
nice diag but you really need a better piercing probe. a guy could drive a mack thu the holes that made. personally i hate piercing but i do understand the need at times.
Toyota Tundra 58000 miles needs a fuel pump already wow are the trucks built in North America or japan ? It’s acting like gm Delphi pump not an aisin Toyota pump quality is going PO CARALHO FODAS
It is under the powertrain warranty. 60months/60,000 miles. But it look as though, as many have suggested, the owner deliberately ran it on low fuel, in turn killing the pump. So, really it shouldn't because the owner, if true, were carless and at fault. Not a faulty fuel pump. Therefore, the owner shell out for the repair.
Curtis Fleabag ehhh i have owned several toyotas and bot had these issues, however toyota isnt AS PERFECT as ppl think i had a 2011 camry and water pump was replaced twice in 4yrs (once before i bought it according to service records, and once 2yrs later,,)
@Curtis Fleabag tell that to the 01 tacoma my grandfather just sold with 500k plus miles. Never had any problems aside from someone hitting his radiator and waterpump with a haybale fork.
Trenton Archer · Tacomas are dependable little beasts 😊. I am making payments on my 08 tacoma access cab 4 cyl. truck. It's only got 61,600 miles on it. Am so glad i found it. It was the only one left in the dealership. Probably owned by an older person. The only thing i can think of adding. Is reinforcing the back with stronger leaf springs and installing Bilstein gas shocks. That's it 💪😅
@Truth Defender if you have ever been out of gas you know the feeling of praying it will start again, lol. Replacing it isnt hard so I didnt care if it did burn out, lol
I sure appreciate your knowledge & methodical approach to diagnosing & solving the various problems that come your way, you’re a true master-technician.
something is fishy here..im a Tundra owner since 2004 , bought my second 3rd gen in 2013 , watching like a hawk vids related to issues and I can confirm that this is a first to see this type of issue the last 15 years or so that im aware of ..very odd I would say ..something doesn't add up since this trucks are built to last 1000000miles
I don't want to burst your bubble... But 100,000 miles? Not as realible as u think they are... Especially the issues with these 5.7 all over the place not the first time I've seen these pumps burn out so quick... We've done 3 already this year. That tundra with the 4.7 was pretty good.. Except the timing belt is
yonda ila yes you are right, this is a Japanese shit... fuel pump breakdown because fuel is low in the tank, well that’s the weirdest and funniest reason I ever heard 😂😂😂 If you want a real truck, get an american one, go to the source and where story started...
BEEN A TOYOTA TECH FOR 21 YEARS. ABSOLUTLY RARE CASE. HE WOULDNT NEED A FUEL PUMP IF HE WOULD WATCH THE FUEL LEVEL. 2018 WITH 50K ON IT. THIS IS A WARRANTY PART FOR 7 YEAR 70000 MILES. FREE AT DEALER IF HE WOULD HAVE TOWED IT THERE. DIAGNOSIS WAS GOOD. GLAD CUSTOMER HAD TO PAY FOR HIS OWN MISTAKE.
Are you still a tech? I’ve been seeing the newer tacos having back fuel pumps and throwing codes for it. I even had a taco with a back fuel pump in the tank, replaced it and the new one was worse than the new old one. Took me 3 pumps to fix the issue.
Is their not a fuel pump shut off switch. I was thinking maybe when the pump went dry it'd shut itself off. They did on older cars I know. Both for when you ran out of gas or in an accident where the care may have overturned it'd shut off for safety.
Andrew Sims I don’t believe there is one. I’ve replaced my fair share of tundra gas tanks or cracked sending units and the wires going to the unit are for the pump to run and the fuel level. Also I’ve never been flat out told there’s a logic having low fuel in the tank and the wires for the fuel level go straight to the combination meter(speedometer)
Steve Smith It’s totally happens. It’s known but I don’t think it’s the most common thing in the world. I see about 50% of tundras coming in for service dry, 35% having a timing cover leak, the remaining 15% is the cam cradles/towers. Also another thing I’ve been noticing if a 5.7 liter tundra comes in with misfires I wouldn’t rule out the possibility a valve spring has broken. Again not super common but I’ve seen it enough I made a point to remember. I usually see our cars misfire due to poor fuel quality like too much ethanol content.
@@Trex6767 Just curious... Funny little story, I drove a Tacoma for a few years, then down graded to an f-150... Went to the parts store and just walked up to the counter and said "I need a thermostat"... The guy looked at me and said "what you driving?"... I said "oh, I forgot how to do this, I have been driving a Toyota for the last few years"... LOL
Great walk through of your diagnostic technique. Need more mechanics like you. gauge on empty indicates that this truck has probably spend a lot of time on super low level. Still kind of crazy that at only 58k it needed a fuel pump. I guess they just don't make them like they use to.
I have a 2015 Tundra SR5 double cab with the 5.7 litre Trd off road package with about 55 thousand miles and so far no issues other than having a rear seatbelt repositioned because it would get sucked into the seat when lowering or raising seat. I am curious does this truck not still have the bumper to bumper warranty. Good video of explaining your process of elimination.
Great diagnostic process walk through. I believe there was a recall recently on this year fuel pump on multiple models including tundra. Customer may be able to get reimbursed for labor and materials from Toyota.
I run my tundra to gas light often have 108k on it and it's still perfect. The fuel sender holds fuel in a basin for cooling the pump that's always there even if you run the tank completely empty. I'd say just a faulty pump it happens sometimes with mass produced products some last forever some just go bad 🤷♂️
All these people saying it was run low on fuel too much, just remember, when the tundra low fuel light comes on it still has over 6.5 gallons left! Plenty to cool itself. It’s just a bad pump-no need to try and explain why.
If that is the case, a faulty pump, it would be covered under the powertrain warranty. The owner could have gotten it towed to toyota for the repair. Unless the owner kept running it lower, til completely out. Who knows?
I like the mystery behind every case study. A true professional mechanic finds the source of the problem and fixes the issue. A novas mechanic (No vas!) is just a parts replacer.
Eric, really enjoyable to watch and excellent thought process and some time what i do to check pressure i hook a loop in state of pump fuse and read the amps on the amp meter so every one amp equal 10 psi so 5 amp = 50 psi cheeeeeers and thank you for sharing.
Good job finding the fuel problem. Amazing with all the stupid "check eng" lights new vehicles give out, not one code for a fuel pump failure and no start. What a POS computer code/brains of a vehicle for solving a major problem.
Why crank starter, when the pump starts at ON position. Unless it's mechanical pump. I've run my landcruiser and Camry passed the E line and never have had fuel pump problems.
Yea that's what I was getting at between GM's and Dodges variadable valves which was a failed venture by the two late 70s into the 80s still is Ford's eco poops and plastic oil pans the" big 3 "do not hold a flame to Toyota for sure.
@@johnpowell5181 atleast chevys are cheap to fix though and I guess gm also, I've never owned one. My step dads ford f150 has had issues with its turbo more times than it's worth driving the truck sadly.
06 tundra 195k miles had intermittent crank no start problems. Usually started on second or third try. Then 8 or 9 attempts without start. New battery same.. removed and reinstalled all fuel and efi relays, then did a drum solo on all relays. Has been starting flawlessly for a few days now. Gonna replace all associated relays. Hope this helps.
Nice video. 👍🏼 I’m trying to troubleshoot my 4th gen 4Runner that when I try to start doesn’t, but when I turn the key to start, continues to crank even if you let go of the key. Then I need to turn the key to the off position to get the starter to stop. Any thoughts? Ignition switch, ignition, starter ???
I just replaced my fuel pump and it ran for about 7 days and the occured the same issue. Slow loss of throttle and engine shut off going about 70mph. I tried swapping EFI relays and had no effect but the truck will no longer crank. It will turn over but won't actually crank up. It's a 2006 2.7L Toyota Tacoma Any ideas?
Just bought a 2002 Tacoma and it started out working for few days since I bought it but now it won’t start. It’s cranking at but won’t turn on. 1 out of 10 it turns on but after that it won’t start. Any ideas?
So far all signs point to a code P00113 which is a mass air flow sensor code only it will say Air Intake Sensor but on most models it appears to be built inside mass airflow sensor.
I’ve used a external 12v fuel pump and gas in a bucket to start a no start. You ever try it? Kinda of a fuel pump bypass. What’s the warranty on Toyota 36 mo? Bummer
why didnt you just buy a fuel pump only and use the same plastic? That would be cheaper than buying it as a set, i know toyota dont sell pump only but u could of got it after market.
This channel is gonna grow, you deliver excellent diagnostics, quality videos, thoughtful dialogue, and you don't waste viewers' time. I will work through past videos. My first thought was why not use a high amp bulb to check wiring with pump disconnected. Now that I think about it, if the pump was good your technique PROVES no line resistance, because otherwise there would have been a voltage drop on either the ground or voltage side. After all, assuming the pump is good, you were doing a drop test across the energized pump, electrons were flowing during the test. However if the pump was bad AND wiring was bad, then you might not see a drop. Two coincident problems are unlikely and you saved a step. It would have been interesting to see current but there isn't much room for satisfying curiosity in a working shop.
Thank you! Yes, I did what I could with the time I had and the fact that I could not gain access to the pump without dropping the tank. The module was doing it's job providing power and ground for the pump on command, so I felt comfortable calling a bad pump. Thanks for watching! btw I just subbed to your channel! I'm looking forward to checking it out!
Thank you for this video. I have a 2007 Toyota Tundra 4.7 with 267k miles. My truck gave no symptoms for a failing fuel pump. I pulled the truck out of the driveway to work on my other vehicles. Then pulled it back into the driveway and let it keep running so I could add more freon to the ac. As soon has the hose was connected to the ac port, the truck shut off. Then it began to have a crank no start. Pulled out the fuses and relays, then placed them back in and truck started again. Then later drove it 10 miles and everything was fine. Then drove it the next day for another 10 miles and all was good. So then come Monday, drove the truck to get gas. Right when I drove up a small incline the truck shut off and it wouldn't start again. Had to tow it home. Replaced the fuses and rely and it didn't improve anything. So bought a new fuel pump from Rockauto. So after watching this video, I now feel confident about replacing the fuel pump. But I'm curious if it's important to wash out the gas tank before placing the new fuel pump in the tank? You didn't mention in your video about cleaning the gas tank.
Excellent video! Fuel pumps have been a problem for all toyo/lexus vehicles since the introduction of their "flex fuel" models, even if you never use flex fuel. Something about the ECM measuring the alcohol content incorrectly and responding poorly with the pump ECU and fuel pump that results in struggled cold starts and hard shifts while warming up, and ultimately a dying fuel pump. They don't have a replacement part than the Delphi FE0707 currently, so I purchased an aftermarket aeromotive pump with higher flow capabilities that folks use when supercharging (haven't seen any with issues after upgrading). I'll be wiring it into the existing pump assembly this weekend and praying that makes this truck purr again. Don't buy flex fuel models!!!!!!!!!
I have this same problem. Had the pump replaced and alcohol reset and 3 years later the ethanol was reading was back at 74%. Had to reset with techstream and right back to starting and running smooth as ever
Hard to imagine pump gone so soon. Things do break! Nice logical step by step diagnosis. Moment of truth start up always scary when doesn't fire up right away! Great video!
@@ADVANCEDLEVELAUTO There is still wiring integrity to check that you didn't show. I know a lot of technicians would not do that final step because it is not usual for wire to break but assume there were rodents in there and could have nicked the wire or even a small internal corrosion. I have seen the craziest things with wires that have intermittent connections and ends up that they just have a string that is still making it work intermittently. I have seen this in modules and sliding door from minivans.
Dude.... the fuel tank was dry when it came in. The owner burned the pump up running the tank low. I have 2 tundras, a 2000 and a 2010. The 2000 has 140k with the original pump and the 2010 has a 46gal tank with a flex fuel pump from McGeorge toyota. Always stick with toyota parts.... aisin and denso. And keep the fuel tank full-ish. It keeps the pump cool and lubricated.
Should I keep risk driving around if I had starting trouble? After about 10 seconds of it not starting, it finally did. Should I just go ahead and change it?
The thing is there are many unknown variables. Maybe the owner had a bad habit of not filling up till the gas light came on. Fuel pumps are pretty sensitive.
@@tylerbolton8695 I got a shit load of servicing thrown in when I purchased my truck. They basically are on the hook for all the scheduled work unto 200,000km including oil. I guess they figured it was a cheap chuck in to clinch the deal! I have never paid for anything other than tires & fuel so far & I am at 190k.
My 2016 Tundra cranks without starting several times first thing in the morning. Usually starts the third time. do you think that the fuel pump could be going bad? Once it starts it runs and starts all day. Thanks
I have a 2000 Tundra ( 10yrs ) with 265,000 mile and drive it to E almost every time. Same pump. I also had a 2002 s-10 ( 6yrs ) with 135,00 miles and did the same thing. Just a bad batch at the assembly line IMO
2001 Sequoia - Died while driving... would start but then die... then eventually would not start at all. would crank but no start... Was NOT fuses, fuel pump, relays, anti theft, ECU, or fuel filter... Turned out that the wires to the crank sensor were damaged by the serpentine belt! repaired the wires and BINGO it runs!
Curtis Fleabag agree, because the Subaru BRZ/Toyota 86 have premature fuel pump failure, and I'm not sure if that's on Toyota or Subaru end... but the late 1mz-fe had valve cover gasket leaks and my 2011 camry had crap water pump
Toyota Tundra worst vehicle I ever owned. 2013 5.7. At 30k transmission failed while towing 2k lbs. At 40k rear end failed. At 42k transmission failed again. At 55k transmission failed again. At 72k transmission failed again at 82k 2 pistons cracked. Huge fight with dealer even though under warranty. After paying $5,000 to get it back on the road I sold it immediately for a huge loss of course. Needed a vehicle I could rely on. Not one that leaves me stuck on the side of the road all the time. Went back to Ford Diesels. Take a look under the Toyota. Rear springs look like tissue paper. Not a real truck.
I don’t get it why people talk so grate about Toyota I have fords chevys and a tundra 2016 with 94,000miles and is giving me more problems than the others.
I have the same problem. Crank no start, Changed fuel pump now start and stall. Order fuel pump control module 3 day to get in from California to New York. Waiting......
So what’s the problem? Sounds like every To Often Yannkies Overprice This Automobile I have ever own. Besides oil leaks, a/c not working, lights not coming on, brakes not working, doors falling off, tailgate not working, on and on. They are such piles of shit. Calling them shit is insulting to shit.
Apparently, TOYOTA knows these FLEX fuel pumps have a problem. They issued a TSB to replace them. They are also forced by the epa to fix them under a warranty up to 80k miles. There is some epa rule that forces all manufacturers to warranty any emission problems up to 80k miles. I found this information on a tundra forum and printed the pdfs of the TSB and of the EPA warranty rules and leagal information that a member had shared. Which helped tremendously because the dealerships would rather take their customers hard earned money instead of the manufacturers money they took from their customers. Apparently, they had to replace a fuel line and the pump. They were supposed to reprogram or reflash something in the computer also. I hope this helps someone out there.
Mar 9 2020...Toyota Fuel Pump Recall The recall affects nearly 2 million Toyota and Lexus brand vehicles, nearly as many as the company sells in America in a year.
It's funny how the tech is trying to make the Tundra look bad by exaggerating "let me show you how many miles, we got 58,957 miles and this thing already needs a fuel pump..." (13:58) lol. But the matter of the fact is, the owner of the truck is too stupid by running the fuel tank completely empty; fuel lubricates the pump as it flows through. Furthermore, it can be any gas powered vehicle, you keep running that tank completely empty; the fuel is gonna die early.
So I have an 07 5.7L that does this from time to time. It did it this morning and I tried cranking a couple times and nothing. Pulled key out for a few seconds and put it back in and it started?!? Last few times it's been it almost starts and pukes out then it'll start so is that a madule issue?
I have a 2007 Toyota Tundra. It has the same problem. It will happen only ones in a wile . Ease fix. Disconnect the negative cable from battery, reconnect back, open the key only to the point where all controls turn on, Wate a few minutes , you will hear the computer reconfiguring When you hear no more noises from the computer. Start the engine. That will solve your problem. That will save you hundreds of dollars and great deal of time . You can also do the same with all the different trucks like GMC and other models. I really know this will help many of you out there.
I have a 2008 toyota tundra 4.0 v6 , I replaced the tension idler bracket. all was ok, the I bobbled the alternator, a spark, I to change 3 fuses, 4 relays, The truck runs but no radio, heater fan, power windows, and worst I cannot get out of park. Any ideas?
Wow a lot of Toyota fan boys making excuses... I have driven mostly Nissan's and Honda's always ran my gas until the gas light came on. Never had to replace a fuel pump.
why did not show rpm signal on the scanner DATA PID during cranking, first thing I would think is if the pcm does not see rpm would not activate the pump mere than key on for 2 seconds.
what do you use to seal the wires after probing them? Ive had my power probe for close to 15 years now, I need to upgrade to one like yours with a readout, Thanks for the video
I have the same issue with my tundra. The problem was simple, It was weak battery, it a few ways can drained battery power. If I turn off the engine and turn on radio, watching movies in the car or left my headling on more than 15 minute then I am fuck. I checked all fuses, battery connection all was good. The only simple way get it starts just jump start. As I know the big Tundra need a lot cracking power to start.
I'm fixing a Toyota hilux 2kd efi engine, I cannot understand why the injector anus doesn't have a power feed or source, we have installed brand new ecu and the crank and camshaft sensors... Anyone with a fair idea please assist
I had three new fuel pumps put on, the most recent one a OEM, had pressure check done, electric test done, fuel system clean out done, reflash as well. My truck still cranks and will start after waiting 20 minutes, then I will restart it several times and it will start, then I will shut it off and it will crank and not start then I wait another 20 minutes or so and it will start again. I put a new ignition switch in, checked all the fuses none blown, I thought maybe the Crank Position Sensor, what are your thoughts?
i have a 2002 tundra 6 cylinder will not start changed fuel pump changed the filter relays work still no gas. i was told of a fuel resistor but i looked and there is not one were it is supposed to be, the fuel relay was under the dash not under the hood. is there something i am missing?? to check?
There is a TBS for this release on February ? Not sure all affect truck has been removed from sale because Toyota got a red flag since 04/20/20 still not answer to how address the issue I have a 2017 sienna that I am working on that has crank not start when warm only
