TRACK TEST FAIL - 2024 Tesla Model 3 Performance battery temp cuts power!

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This is the NEW 2024 Tesla Model 3 performance "Highland" - the UK version with what we assume to be 79 kWh battery and 460 BHP (compared to US versions with 82 kWh and 510 HP) and we are putting it the race track to see how it performs!
Tesla promises better suspension, adaptive dampers, better brakes, better performance and improved aerodynamics so to put this to the test we visit Thruxton race circuit, the fastest circuit in the UK (despite having no real straights!).
We've driven this track before with the previous Model 3 Performance so we can compare exactly what it's like.
The answer: well it handles nicely, the stock brakes are better BUT.. and it's a massive BUT.. after 3 or 4 laps the battery is overheating and cutting the power. Not just once but each time we tested it.
Is it something Tesla can fix with software updates? Is it limited by hardware?
Does this mean it's not fit for purpose?
I''m left very disappointed. :-(
Tesla are carrying out remote diagnostics as we speak and analysing the data so I will pin a comment with updates.
Thanks for watching.
Richard Symons
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@RSEV 29 дней назад

Update: Tesla have been reviewing the data remotely (which is fantastic!) and can confirm the car has zero faults evident. Coolant pumps etc operating as should. They can see when battery reaches 60 deg Celsius that the output Kw is reduced. They have raised to engineering but essentially, unless can somehow be tweaked with software updates, that this is simply a limitation with the car. Not fit for purpose then…😢

@iambenmitchell 29 дней назад

So sad, wonder if they never tested the MIC or MIB and only tested the US cars. How/who did you insure the car for the track? I’d love to take a polestar 2 onto thruxton when I purchase one one day

@techevo 29 дней назад

It doesn't surprise me. Cylindrical cells just can't get the heat out fast enough due to the surface area to volume ratio of that type of cell. A pouch cell as in the Ioniq 5N is a much better shape for thermal management due to it's inherent design. The MP3 is a great road car, but not great for anything other than one lap flat out on track.

@devonbikefilms 29 дней назад

Be interesting to see how the Hyundai N model fairs in similar circumstances. To be fair they don’t sell it as a race car. Having driven a few, they make awful road cars 😂😂

@whlphil 29 дней назад

@@techevogiven the previous car didn’t have the same issue with the same design cell I wouldn’t think that’s the whole story. Suspect it’s more to do with the LG cell rather than the 2170 hence why the US cars are rated with more power Anyway should all be solved when the finally get the CATL Qilin

@bryanduncan6178 29 дней назад

What colour Ioniq 5N are you going to get?!

@Maxaker 29 дней назад

What about testing the IONIQ 5 N ?

@moa2252 29 дней назад

Kia EV6 and Ioniq5 N are far better about heat management of the pack. Ioniq5 can drive 2 full laps at Nurb. Power is not everything.

@malcolmwhite6588 10 дней назад

Wow, that’s amazing. How many laps can a petrol car drive at full power?

@eb1888. 29 дней назад

The Ioniq N seems to have good battery cooling. A comparative run would be interesting.

@origaminefretami3480 17 дней назад

Dont think they are allowed to do a test where a Tesla gets gapped too hard.

@eb1888. 17 дней назад

@@origaminefretami3480 You likely meant too hard. Already comparisons at Nurburgring by Misha. Like to see info from this track.

@martinfay7274 29 дней назад

Great video (thank you) but a very disappointing performance from the battery pack.😢

@Theocurrie 29 дней назад

Great to hear from John, guys definitely knows his stuff 👍

@techevo 29 дней назад

Tesla aren't really interested in making a proper track ready EV, they want to sell millions of cars, and that's their priority. That's not going to change anytime soon. 5 years after the original 2019 M3P, they have only improved the rear motor in regards to performance, and the MIC cars are a backstep in regards to the battery. The battery in the US car is basically the same, and will de-rate after approx 3 minutes on track as it's having to deliver around 80bhp more. Compare that to the Ioniq5N which is pushing 640bhp and can run flat out for 2 laps of the Ring. Disappointing, but the reality of using cylindrical cells.

@G82Watts 28 дней назад

Then why do they have a track mode and call this a "performance" model? U do realize performance= speed, handling, and braking .. right? Not just a quick acceleration from stop light to stop light. This isn't a perfromance car if that's all it offers. Plus it's top speed is trash

@techevo 28 дней назад

@@G82Watts- I'm talking about the performance of the drivetrain and battery, not the performance of the car as a whole.

@hasangenc2922 18 дней назад

@@G82Wattsthe same reason Teslas have 'Track modes'....Elon probably studied other performance cars and two days before releasing the Model 3 he noticed 'these A45s and Bmw M3s...they all have track modes. Put a track mode in the Model 3 whatever that is!'

@G82Watts 18 дней назад

@@hasangenc2922 lmao. Elon reminds me of all these nerdy tesla owners who review their cars and u can just tell they had no idea about cars till tesla came out. Tech 🤓

@mrb2349 17 дней назад

@@G82Watts a Tesla can always gap the car of your dreams, though.

@krispyywombat7382 29 дней назад

Sounds like it’ll need cooling mods for extended use, and some of the usual tweaks like the last M3P. Still excited to see the full potential of this car realized

@smc419 29 дней назад

I would like to see this car vs the IONIQ 5 N. They are saying the 5 N doesn't overheat.

@StefanoFinocchiaro 28 дней назад

Doesn't overheat becaue it doesn't preaheat the battery so it start with slower performance. Tesla should add a similar option

@juliandclarke 28 дней назад

@@StefanoFinocchiaro I think there are at least 2 race settings with Ioniq 5 N. Depending on the type of track. I’m waiting for mine to be delivered so will be interesting to investigate

@johnnymiller1000 27 дней назад

@@juliandclarkethat’s right, not done it on mine yet but there is an N endurance mode that pares back power a little for longer sessions.

@techevo 26 дней назад

@@StefanoFinocchiaro- That's exactly what Tesla does with Track Mode. It COOLS the battery as much as possible, by overclocking the aircon compressor and transferring heat out of the battery coolant and oil system for the motors via the octovalve.

@StefanoFinocchiaro 26 дней назад

@@techevo No, it warms the battery for maximum performance. It try to keep the battery to a set temperature

@dooflexible 28 дней назад

Very informative video thanks!

@mateokovac2642 17 дней назад

The Model 3 Performance without the Performance. Typical Tesla.

@steveyoung8376 26 дней назад

get a hyundai ionic 5n

@paulvink126 27 дней назад

Should have got the 5N

@marcusgeorge1825 29 дней назад

Give me an Ionic 5 N any day and twice on Sunday.

@sorinelpustiu5674 29 дней назад

Enjoy your 70,000£ Hyundai:)

@juliandclarke 28 дней назад

£60k M3P plays £65k 5N. Not sure about PCP rates

@bEEBO178 24 дня назад

Its still a hunday

@marcusgeorge1825 24 дня назад

@@bEEBO178 and your point would be?

@juliandclarke 24 дня назад

@@bEEBO178 yep. Solidly built, well engineered Korean product

@pauln0371 29 дней назад

Been a long time since I drove round Thruxton. 24 years tbh. But I was Driving a Ferrari 355 and a 360 Modena at the time. Absolutely amazing track👍👍

@greenhawx 29 дней назад

Thanks for that video. I was considering this car as my next one. But now I have some thinking to do. Car with a track mode not able to run on a track. Not fit for purpose! Disappointing. Would be interesting to know how the battery temps behave on a German autobahn performing longer highspeed stretches?!

@JDDD33 27 дней назад

Ionic 5N will be the car for you, but it will also require you depart with 1 testical (due to its increased price)

@sxyrx7 29 дней назад

Did you leave "ride and Handling" in normal mode?

@philipf2705 29 дней назад

Great video Richard and this is what makes me hesitant to purchase one here in Vancouver. I don't like the fact that the battery is different coming out of Shanghai and the Shanghai factory are where all of the Canadian Tesla's are coming from. Build quality and fit and finish may be better but the battery quality is IMPORTANT to me

@youcandoit7290 29 дней назад

Looked like default had regenerate at 100% maybe try with regain off. to see how the battery holds up.

@Sci-flyer 28 дней назад

I ran my 2023 MY Perf on track, default 50/50 track setting, default regen, went a little easy on the brakes as i knew they would be the weak point (not unusual for a heavy street car on stock pads) and the only thing that got into the orange was the battery. tyres, motors, brakes, everything else was fine. Went from 96% SoC to about 20% no power loss, no issues. Agree they handle better than you would expect

@wonderboy75 28 дней назад

Did you ever test the Polestar 2 Performance or BST version on a track? I'm curious how it performs in comparison. The PS2 Performance is comparable in price to the TM3P. You should definitely test the Ioniq 5 N when you get a chance. From what I have seen it can go on for much longer without issues. The new Polestar 3 and 4 will be interesting as well.

@THEZEST1357 29 дней назад

In Australia later model 3 LR (pre face lift cars) had the LG 79kw packs and the higher internal resistance in my opinion is the issue with heat on track. I managed after a few laps to overheat my battery. I think the Panasonic 82kw with its significantly lower internal resistance can not only charge faster but produce less heat under load. It seems like 55c is optimal for charging and discharging quickly, but 60c they reach their thermal throttling limit. There's a video on my profile of track use with live battery stats of the LG 79kw pack. And this was back when max draw was 366kw not the ~400kw of the new performance.

@NIAtoolkit 29 дней назад

I wonder if the US-spec battery exhibits similar thermal characteristics

@4literv6 29 дней назад

It pretty much does, several shared videos of track runs at Laguna seca shows you get 1 or 2 basically all out laps before. The stock tires and brakes cause fall off and battery temps cause power reduction to kick in. It does lap with a c8 though for half price. 😀 So it's a much better built and much more capable overall car for cheaper than a pre highland m3p was. But the battery itself&the cooling system, with small for the perf sized brakes and not true high perf tires. Means it's a fun quick canyon carver that costs 55k&runs high 10s. Vs being anything serious for a fun track day without additional bolt on parts&tires. But that is also true of most ALL vehicle's sold. 😎👍🏻

@G82Watts 28 дней назад

Also tesla is having problems with cars sitting in the heat outside actually losing miles by just sitting outside and the battery draining. 😂 insanity

@G82Watts 28 дней назад

@@4literv6that's true for most cars? U can't be serious dude lmfao. 1 or 2 laps around 1 min short tracks like that then it starts overheating and the brakes also go bad? 😂😂 that's true for almost no true sports car in this day and age. Imagine if porsche or bmw had those problems. Their would be massive recall and it would be blown out of this world on car channels .

@BigD4Real. 23 дня назад

@@G82Watts that is because the car has cabin overheat protection is on and can be turned off in the settings.

@mikees60 29 дней назад

EX30 review coming?

@briankielberg2782 28 дней назад

How did the tires hold up?

@SimonLant 29 дней назад

Joe with his arms folded after the first run look super cheesed off 😂 nice video, shame on the limitations you found.

@kubben1 29 дней назад

Will you test it against the Hyundai Ioniq 5N? Would be interesting to see :)

@louisolivierfortin 29 дней назад

Other than 0-60mph the tesla will get slapped on all metrics unfortunately. The panasonic US car would be a better match but still not as capable on track compared ti the N.

@juanmedinar20 29 дней назад

@@louisolivierfortin the 5N weighs more than a Model S Plaid. I doubt it.

@louisolivierfortin 29 дней назад

@@juanmedinar20 I’m just an EV enthusiast who watched like 25 video reviews of the 5N, and it’s unanimous this thing is a beats even if it weighs 4800lbs. Great steering response, great handling, competent on and off track, great top end power (better than m3p with LG battery), etc. Looks like the best package as far as a car that can do it all

@bryanduncan6178 29 дней назад

The 5N can get to the top of Pikes Peak with no degradation and can cover 2 laps of the Nurburgring Nordschleife at full speed! There isn't a car currently available from Tesla that can match that.....

@sorinelpustiu5674 29 дней назад

@@bryanduncan6178@bryanduncan6178 where did you read that no tesla can make 2 full laps of the Nurburgring? Or no power degradation at pikes peak?

@danex070 28 дней назад

It would been nice to have a full screen capture so the data you guys talking about we can see it, and you guys ran with a custom profile with 100% brake regen, reducing that would have save some battery temp.

@saintsilvershade7575 21 день назад

Did you turn off regen mode when you were track testing? I've heard it keeps the battery cooler.

@NO3V 29 дней назад

Did you try a session with less regen?

@Tommmmmmmmmmmm 29 дней назад

Brakes will overheat even quicker

@tv-ld3wv 28 дней назад

100% will make a big difference But it's LG chem😢

@lbtobl83 28 дней назад

Brakes would be toast after 3rd curve 😊

@richardhc76 27 дней назад

Change out the pads for XP10 then all good with lower regen

@Pus1 26 дней назад

Regen makes a huge differnece. I drove my 21 mod 3 performance on the ring and when going over 40% regen the battery gets hot. Worth noting that i have aftermarket brakes so i can push them a bit more

@wensiangfong 21 день назад

Using original brake pad or change to track brake pad?

@FRTLBN 28 дней назад

Hi Richard - When you get data from the US-version, I hope you will do an update video about how much difference the two battery packs makes on tracks. !

@mowensmd 4 дня назад

A lot. but also they had regen on 100%. should be near off.

@Jaw0lf 29 дней назад

Interesting stuff and John really knew what he was talking about. Hope Tesla can fix this through an update for you.

@waterthink7 29 дней назад

테슬라에서 트랙패키지가 없어도 트랙을 달릴 수 있게 만들었다더니 거짓말이네 ㅋㅋ

@pstarke1066 27 дней назад

기술적으로 그게 가능했으면 이번에 5n이 기록세운 파익스피크에 나왔겠죠ㅎㅎ

@alex135789 29 дней назад

Learned a lot from your mistakes. Thanks.

@brightbluesmurf 29 дней назад

Did you turn regen off by any chance?

@GaryJohnWalker1 29 дней назад

The Ariel in the background is what I want

@TheJAMF 29 дней назад

Any regen braking still on, or set to minimal or off?

@NO3V 29 дней назад

Was on 100% when they showed the selected Track Mode profile. 1:57

@TheJAMF 29 дней назад

@@NO3VWeird that that is the standard setting. At least they can do a low setting on a personal profile.

@TheJAMF 29 дней назад

@@NO3VAlso makes me wonder if they had the regen on low on the old M3P. Micha recommends having it on low when doing the Nürburgring Nordschleife. 🤔

@mowensmd 4 дня назад

@@NO3V Oops...that's their problem!!!

@colinwiseman 29 дней назад

Ha! Love that you're doing that there. My mate works there, which is nice.

@user-ui7vo8kp3z 28 дней назад

I hope they will fix this issue with future updated m3p, next year perhaps?

@josefinkjellsson7051 28 дней назад

Left foot breaking possible?

@Deniseich 29 дней назад

Can you provide the specifications of the race? It's really important to know because they can vary significantly between countries, race tracks, and race rules. 1. What was the temperature on that day? 2. How long did each race last in minutes approximately? How much rest did the Tesla have between races, and how many races were there in total? 3. At what points and for how long on the timeline do you really start to loose motor power, and how much power do you loose roughly in percentage terms? 4. The same for braking performance - when do you start to loose performance, how long does it last, and how much performance do you loose? This information is really interesting to know. Perhaps you mentioned some of this in your video, but I couldn't find it. I test-drove this Tesla M3P provided by a dealer, and it was intresting. I plan to buy this M3P next year and want to understand its limits. In Poland, we have 18 race tracks, and I've driven on one of them with different cars, which was really cool. Now I'm choosing between the RS3 and the M3P and trying to understand which would be better for me.

@Martin-dx5zs 29 дней назад

Do you plan to review the Volvo EX30 twin motor?

@RSEV 29 дней назад

Yes! I have one at work waiting but not even had time to drive it yet. Coming soon

@Martin-dx5zs 29 дней назад

Awesome, can’t wait! We’ve had our twin motor performance EX30 for a few weeks and it’s blown us away. Crazy performance and build quality for the money. Would be fun to see how it compares on track.

@sorinelpustiu5674 29 дней назад

@@Martin-dx5zs what do you think of the infotainment system? And the screen itself? Do you also have the 1sec acceleration lag when you accelerate?

@Martin-dx5zs 28 дней назад

Infotainment has been solid for us; buttery smooth. It’s also pin sharp. In terms of the throttle lag, that only occurs in normal mode (not AWD performance mode where the front motor is permanently engaged).

@TonyMiguel-ko7cz 8 дней назад

You got a 10 second car. Shuts off after 10 seconds 😂

@johnnymiller1000 27 дней назад

So in the UK we get lower power to begin with, and it still overheats in a short distance on track, even in UK temps. Wonder if the US cars with their battery pack fare any better? I was on the fence about chopping my 2020 M3P for one of these or the Ioniq 5N. Went with the Ioniq 5N, a few weeks in and glad i did….. just dropped my 2020 M3P off for sale at RSEV. Check them out if you’re looking for an EV. Great guys!

@nickolassnielsen 26 дней назад

Same for the us version. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pt3oUzjHxjw.htmlsi=Zc4rFDzrWsaUD4BT

@HBGP-007 26 дней назад

I received my M3P Highland ten days ago and have been driving it satisfactorily. However, from a performance and driving fun perspective, the best electric car at the moment is the Ioniq 5 N. Hyundai has excellent battery temperature control technology and has implemented gear shifting, which is something you usually see in internal combustion cars. It's really impressive.

@theipc-twizzt2789 28 дней назад

The 3 is not a track car and it was not built for this purpose. It's what Lars said in that JP interview. Adding to that the unfortunate LG battery.

@brianmckenna3440 29 дней назад

Great video

@MrPindie 29 дней назад

I have the LR Highland and it is very wobbly and scary above 100mph - bordering dangerous. The mud flaps scrape the ground often so it is pretty soft. My flaps are now half length compared to when new! The MP3 Highland is clearly more composed but a change in tyres etc would help it a lot. I am also wondering if it needs to be driven in a smooth manner rather than drive it like you stole it? Any road based car struggles on track if you drive it like that. My 2012 scooby did 8.1 mpg on track. That was around 80 miles from 70 litres of SUL.

@dominolehmann8227 28 дней назад

Just redo a measurement of the track of the car. It's much more stable afterwards

@madsdgdhg 28 дней назад

Maybe test the Hyundai Ionic 5N in the same track... to show Tesla how it's done. 😆

@bEEBO178 24 дня назад

I wouldn't want to roll in a Hunday

@Aztasu 24 дня назад

@@bEEBO178 well you wouldn't have the money for it

@hasangenc2922 18 дней назад

@@bEEBO178As if an American car is any better.

@valery3418 13 дней назад

Maybe an S PLAID will help…

@hasangenc2922 13 дней назад

@@valery3418 will fail against the Hyundai too.....just a Tesla

@joelny2000 17 дней назад

I wonder if this is just an issue with the LG packs outside North America. Just watched a video of a guy doing a track test in 100 degree F temp (California) and the motors got orange, but the battery temp was fine. Will be interesting to see the difference between the Panasonic and the LG packs.

@origaminefretami3480 17 дней назад

Just watched a video of a American Model 3 overheating as well after a fast lap.

@neothehackerV2 17 дней назад

US M3P overheating and limiting after 1 minute 20 seconds. Embarrassing!

@ObiePaddles 29 дней назад

Del Boy is a great driver.

@spencerpieters5502 28 дней назад

Nice one for showing the truth, Richard. I love my Highland LR but I don’t think any Tesla is track material. You can give it an option called track mode and a few cool settings to fiddle with, but in the end it’s a great, efficient EV for the road which can accelerate very fast to give your family and mates a giggle. It’s not track material.

@Mamba310 24 дня назад

You need regen braking off. Also the Lg battery that comes in the EU/Asia version has these problems unfortunately. The US Panasonic version is fantastic tho

@adamgentil2195 29 дней назад

Looks like the Panasonic batteries are far superior to the LG ones, I wonder if the 82kw Panasonic battery from a 21 plate performance car would fit 🤔

@bEEBO178 24 дня назад

That still overheats as well. US drivers have reported driving at Laguna Seca

@alastairhatt360 29 дней назад

Yeah even though it’s a performance car it’s not a dedicated track car and that track had no let up for the battery to cool down or recover with slow chicanes etc. like other comments was the regen the issue? You need to drive it like a normal road car not a race car.

@torentmonkey 24 дня назад

Is this because of the different battery vs the US ?

@TheJAMF 29 дней назад

🤔The helmet on Gints looks small...

@Durzel 29 дней назад

Hopefully we’ll get the Panasonic battery in time, or a better one than the LG at least. It’s probably fine for driving normally, and charging, but not for this.

@blower1 16 дней назад

This is the difference between LG and Panasonic batteries. Pre 2022 M3P used Panasonic batteries in Europe, after that they are all LG - including on the new 2024. The LG batteries have DOUBLE the internal resistance of the Panasonic's, meaning they will get much hotter far quicker when under continuous load like on a track.

@mowensmd 4 дня назад

It's the EU batteries. The panasonic don't have this issue in the US.

@silverstoned83 29 дней назад

The LG pack definitely has a higher internal resistance, resulting in decreased charge and discharge performance when compared to the Panasonic variant.

@oggyoggy1299 28 дней назад

What is the LG resistance and the Panasonic’s?

@G82Watts 28 дней назад

Both versions are overheating after just 1 lap.

@JonathanHighfield 29 дней назад

My 21-plate model 3 long range lease is up the end of July… I was looking at treating myself to the performance Model 3… but having watched this… I'm not sure it is worth the extra £420 per month over a long range

@bEEBO178 24 дня назад

How often do your race/track?

@hasangenc2922 18 дней назад

Get the EV6.

@chewthegum 29 дней назад

I knew this would be a problem with the car because the lead engineer said it would be.. but it still hurts to see. Tesla needs a proper track day model.

@hasangenc2922 18 дней назад

No they dont. Teslas arent built for serious racing, its notb the brands intention.

@chewthegum 18 дней назад

@@hasangenc2922 If you want to look at it from a cold, business perspective, sure.. But I'm just saying, from a consumer POV, we need a Telsa that doesn't power limit after 3 laps..

@Euromasterrace5000 18 дней назад

@@chewthegumwe certainly dont need it, its a Tesla, not an M3, not a 5N, and not a Porsche or Amg. Its like a Corolla, just quicker. Cheap to maintain, quick, boring. Racing isnt what Tesla does.

@chewthegum 17 дней назад

@@Euromasterrace5000 My point is that it doesn't have to be that way.. They could make an easy to maintain, fast, and fun Model 3. There's no reason they couldn't other than "it wouldn't sell well". I'm not saying they need to change their entire lineup. All I'm saying, is Tesla should have an "N", "M", or "AMG" esque performance trim.

@ElmoBHD 25 дней назад

I've test drove one today. For everyday use its not worth the upgrade in price over the Standard range and nevermind the LR. It will be LR with 19" wheels for me.

@BadL_ 29 дней назад

Since this is the fastest track in the UK I wonder how much longer, if any, it would last on slower ones.

@davebway6371 28 дней назад

Really disappointed that you didn’t see the increased performance on track that I have seen.

@RSEV 28 дней назад

It feels better, brakes better, but top end speed not notable but then didn’t get chance to really stretch because battery overheats just as getting everything else warmed up.

@Rambo9700 28 дней назад

Right so it’s crap and show the limitations of EVs as performance cars. I have a model Y performance and really enjoy it. But if I’m going to go on a track I want a proper car, this isn’t it. 30 miles in just over 50% battery? That’s pathetic.

@davebway6371 28 дней назад

It’s better than the modified old M3P. I’ve had both, and this is faster with battery performance much the same. Come to Castle Combe and I’ll show you.

@djoldschool 28 дней назад

I've driven many different cars and bikes on track and I can't say that I've ever wanted to drive any electric (road) car around any track. Regardless of the weight, there's no engine noise which is surely one of the joys of driving a car on track? Having also worked at a circuit for a couple of years, I could count on one hand, the number of people driving their 'road car' on circuit and I can't imagine many people building a Tesla racetrack only car. Shame about the battery problems but it seems Tesla did not spend a lot of time developing their performance model 3 for on-circuit use.

@George_Shonia 28 дней назад

is it technologically possible to implement nitrogen cooling system in EVs? that would solve the problem for battery for once & for all

@juliandclarke 28 дней назад

Interesting to compare to Ioniq 5N

@RSEV 28 дней назад

Ioniq would unfortunately leave it behind… better high end speed, sustainable energy. Maybe braking not quite as good as its heavier but in reality it would trail the 5n I’m quite sure

@MichaelPanzer 25 дней назад

@@RSEVthe Ioniq does up to 280kw of regen on braking so I don't think the brakes would be worse compared. It delivers impressive numbers everywhere it is tried right now

@Martin-dx5zs 29 дней назад

Would love to see the EX30 performance on this track

@mikapeltokorpi7671 29 дней назад

That jerking of steering wheel on fast corner. 👀 Is it having electric power steereing? What type battery is in this one? LFP?

@SvikDK 28 дней назад

Sorry, but what a joke of a performence car. 2 laps on this small circuit, and it´s dead.

@jameschapman4824 29 дней назад

Shame about that Richard. As a by I thought you might be at the Tesla Owners Club day at Bicester Heritage on Saturday.

@waskus 22 дня назад

Brakes overheat on the track

@vhol93 28 дней назад

Cool

@tonysales3687 18 часов назад

Production cars need to be modded for serious track use. Thats why i use my production motorbike on the road, and my track bike on the track, Duh

@BobSacamano-zg6yw 28 дней назад

Time to break into the cooling circuit and re-pipe it through a dry-ice pack. 😅

@mike07707 29 дней назад

I get the feeling that cause this car is still so new, they are probably throttling down the power to be safe until they have enough data to then roll out another update. Which will probably adjust the temperature ranges and warnings etc. that would be my guess anyway. Time will tell, youll have redo the test in a few months once theyve done some tweaks

@BrenoBLC 27 дней назад

Circuit with a few straight lines, a lot of low speed curves, and The piloting styles hammering a elétric Car like a gas Car. Probably they were a lot faster at The entrance of The curves, so had to brake a lot harder. With non competitive tires. Its a lot laking to do performance a performance laps

@BradFreebird 25 дней назад

Just had one of these on loan for the weekend. Not sure how they have managed this, but for all the improvements it somehow feels ‘cheaper’ than the last 2 generations of M3P. Whilst the cabin is well insulated from external noise, the NVH coming through the chassis when moving is simply not good enough. Tyre roar is one thing, but the noise from the suspension and in particular the front motor is very disappointing. Not convinced by the adaptive dampers - a 200 mile round trip down a mix of country roads, A roads, the M1 and driving into central London revealed a hard ride with sharp ridges being transmitted straight through the cabin (in standard mode). Sport mode was obviously worse. The new sports seats creak, and the noises of plastic on plastic coming from the dash area make it sound like one of those cassette trays from the 80’s is installed somewhere. The wheel trim aero pieces are also an issue - if you drive with the window open next to wall you can hear them rattling. Overall disappointing - it looks better, and they have addressed a number of previous issues but seemingly created more in the process. Worst of all, UK cars come with a compromised battery pack (see track overheating and reduced performance vs US cars). Unacceptable the prices other countries pay for this car - even more so at UK prices. Model 3LR is the smart choice if you must have a model 3 - even more so if/when acceleration boost is introduced. Lease rates seem to be £250 per month less that he M3P. I don’t buy the ‘Performance’ credentials of this M3P - they appear to be more cosmetic that of any real value day to day, and as RSEV has proved, not of any real advantage for the occasional track day. My money will be heading in the direction the Hyundai IONIC 5N.

@DrumL3000 29 дней назад

This car is just not meant for racing. Its more a gimmick (track modus). Cooling is always a big issue of electric cars. The ionic 5n does it a bit better and the porsche also. I was pretty amazed that Lucid had such good cooling. With Teslas its just not very good. You can try tuning and modding it to get better temps maybe.

@hasangenc2922 18 дней назад

Ioniq 5N would leave it behind easily. Not even getting started with an G80...

@nickolassnielsen 26 дней назад

Same is happening for the US version. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pt3oUzjHxjw.htmlsi=Zc4rFDzrWsaUD4BT

@Euromasterrace5000 18 дней назад

Damn. Thats....embarassing

@MJB9559 29 дней назад

Hope you learned how to drive a track day from the expert 🙄

@JDDD33 27 дней назад

Its not an endurance EV like the Ionic 5N. Its a sprint car

@Chris-hy6jy 27 дней назад

Looks like a battery cooling issue.

@BigD4Real. 23 дня назад

Turn off regenerative braking and use the brakes more.

@neothehackerV2 17 дней назад

Oberheats breakes even faster.

@mattx4253 29 дней назад

That’s pretty piss poor for a £60k car which is supposed to be a performance car

@alstonmiller212 29 дней назад

Their is a better version where an actual driver has done

@israelmercado9692 29 дней назад

It’s not a bargain at all in the uk that’s ridiculous that it’s equivalent to 76k US. I got mine for 46k US after tax credit which is insane. And I have more peak power than them.

@mattx4253 28 дней назад

@@israelmercado9692 in the Us with tax credits it’s a good buy for a fast car. Problem starts though when you drive it fast. You can cook the breaks and the battery it seems. That could kill you if you fade brakes in the wrong corner

@hasangenc2922 18 дней назад

Its not really a Performance car. Its just quick.

@lagardena8551 15 дней назад

That's why I am buying an ioniq 5 n

@stennordenmalm9900 28 дней назад

Track racing is to much to handle for any Tesla.

@mikaelvellmun7228 23 дня назад

You clearly haven't seen the track pack plaid

@hasangenc2922 18 дней назад

@@mikaelvellmun7228True. That one overheats after 1.5 ringlaps, not just half a ringlap.

@r7cardosuarez806 18 дней назад

@@mikaelvellmun72282.2 ton track car 😂 yeah right

@MrSnicol 28 дней назад

Remind me not to buy a used car from you 😂

@jermunitz3020 29 дней назад

For Sale: Tesla Model 3 one female owner barely used

@markymarkreviews 29 дней назад

Without rubbing too much salt in to the wounds, I think the Hyundai Ioniq 5N will best this, not just in endurance over several laps but be more involving and almost certainly more fun with the "gear changes" and "engine braking" effect when slowing and "changing down a gear". These things matter when track driving., and heighten the involvement factor. Its not just about going as fast as possible.

@davebway6371 28 дней назад

Sorry, but totally disagree. Just did Castle Combe. Battery performance the same. Overheats after 3 or 4 laps. Brakes give a heat warning long before any reduction in braking. The 2020 M3P lost brakes after 2 fast laps, and they went soft. My best lap time was 1.2 seconds faster than the old 2020 M3P. Top speed at the end of the straight +5mph - and this was the only clear flying lap I got on a green track at 77% battery (after a wet start}. By the way, I first raced at Castle Combe in 1985. I know the circuit perfectly. Won the Dick Mayo sprint last year, so my lap times are as good as almost anyone. Far better car than the old 2020 M3P.

@RSEV 28 дней назад

What are you disagreeing with? I agree car is good and has the potential but the battery overheat is an issue (which didn’t happen on previous cars). As you had same overheat issue on a separate track it really does cement the fact this battery pack is not fit for purpose unless somehow software updates can fix.. (unlikely I feel)

@davebway6371 28 дней назад

@@RSEVsame overheating as the previous car not worse. By the way, you said the previous modified car was better, did you try it on standard tyres? I doubt any of the modified cars were on standard tyres. I’ve just done back to back same tyres vs fully modded old M3P with tractive, brembo and adjustable anti-roll bar. The new M3P is quicker and better handling.

@francescodelia4069 27 дней назад

@@davebway6371 you say "fully modded old M3p...", but, according to your reply, I dont see any suspension improvement like KW v3, and the brakes you mentioned is a not specified brembo. For a fully modded M3P I would have expected at least a Brembo GT kit (5 k$). So, in my opinion, your comparative between the new M3P 2024 and your fully modded old M3p is not relevant

@davebway6371 27 дней назад

@@francescodelia4069Tractive suspension is a semi active suspension costing around $15k and it’s the best available. The Brembo brake calipers and disks are also the best available for an M3P so I think it’s your comment that’s not relevant 😂😂😂

@francescodelia4069 27 дней назад

@@davebway6371 Could you give a link to your Tractive suspensions and Brembo brake calipers and disks of your M3P? Otherwise I can't evaluate your modding. Thanks