Traumatizing Tom Scott for 52 Minutes - Safety Third 37 

Seeing Tom Scott on Safety Third is like seeing your teacher at a strip club.

We all know that Tom always looks like he's in his 20s and 60s at the same time, but here he fits in perfectly while also being the odd one out.

Tom Scott continuing his excellent mission to collaborate with every RU-vidr

Tom is unusually sane and collected for a guest on safety third.

I quite like how Tom pushed back on making this an interview on him, it made the podcast way way more pleasant.

Tom Scott really surprised me in this video, in two great ways: 1. He was a straight shooter with them, whether he meant to be or not. 2. He was confident and set hard boundaries, and was funny while doing it. He's always come across as the living embodiment of nervousness, so I didn't expect either of these.

Wow this is actually a treat getting Tom Scott. He’s made quite a name for himself on RU-vid by doing just about everything. Very entertaining creator.

I love how it took 4 minutes for Tom to be cornered into talking about himself. I hate that it took Allen mentioning Caillou hentai for Tom to be cornered into talking about himself

Honestly kind of odd to see Tom Scott in an environment where he's not in control of the situation and/or production; it's like running into your high school principal in a nightclub. He's one of those weird RU-vid cryptids who has done such a good job of isolating their professional life from their personal one that you kind of assume they functionally stop existing when a video ends. The man literally wears the same thing every single day, like a cartoon character... What am I supposed to think??????

This is SURREAL seeing Tom Scott with the gang.

Regarding film photography: There's a saying: A medium format roll with 12 pictures yields 6 good ones. A 36-shot film roll also yields 6 good photos. And shooting 2000+ images onto an SD card also yields 6 images that end up being used. Really makes you think.

tom scott is 38 and william osman is 31... their energy and character is so different... when i watch toms videos i feel like watching a lecture from a prof, its so serious. when i watch wills videos i feel like watching myself making stuff out of my degree, its so experimental. both are lovely in its different way

Oh my god. Hearing Tom geek out about rollercoasters in the same way I do makes me so damn happy. Knowing manufacturers and track styles and all of that stuff. God to think he was PETRIFIED of getting on those coasters in his video, now he's as big an enthusiast as some coaster vets are. I love it!

"we are bad at making videos" "Well you gave up for a while" hahaha damn tom

Tom Scott: "I'm bad at improvisation" Also Tom Scott: had an improvisation comedy troupe

Seeing nilered and tom scott in the same video is about as surreal as it gets

I have never seen a man unintentially make such a god tier minecraft villager sound in my damn life. 22:07

Somewhere, in an alternate universe, The Backyard Scientist joins Gary, Matt and Chris for a very interesting Citation Needed…

For those interested, the shape of a looping is a clothoid mirrored at 180° , also called a teardrop shape. If the looping would be perfectly round the inert nature of your head and body would put extreme sudden forces on your neck because your direction of momevent changes so suddenly. With the clothoid the radius increases over time so it's way easier on your head and neck. Little info from a big huge rollercoaster nerd 👀🙏🏻

Gonna be honest, normally this podcast is just a background thing for me. With Tom on it, you've got my full attention. Years of watching his videos has taught me that everything he says is interesting. Well, unless it's on technical difficulties

This is the collaboration I never realised I needed. It's kinda surreal seeing Tom Scott with Safety Third. I know he's done collaborations with William Osman and Michael Reeves before, but... O_O

The fact that Tom knew what the words "Caillou Hentai" were referring to sort of terrifies me...

“I have a second channel where I bounce off of people”. That is an understatement and a half: Tom Scott Plus, Matt and Tom, Tech Diff

I have never been more excited for a podcast

Omg Tom Scott, that's the collab we were not expecting, but definitely needed

if you think by bringing Tom Scott you will finally make me watch 1 hour of William, Alan & Nile, you're damn right.

I have POTS and the way Tom describes passing out and having to use a g-strain maneuver to avoid this is very similar to the syncopes and convulsions I experience just from standing up! Only difference is that I remember the space in-between in a vague manner. I know it's happening beforehand, and I know it happened as I come back into consciousness, but the in-between is different. It starts as nothing, every semblance of thought is suddenly gone, there's nothing but existential static, like your soul left your body. Then you start to come back, first as feelings, then images, dreams, thoughts, and finally you wake up as your hearing and vision fades back in along with the rest of your senses, leaving you confused for only a moment.

Tom's explaining what being a programmer is like, without mentioning he's a programmer.

if i had a nickel for each time there was a william osman tom scott collab, i'd have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it's happened twice.

I always think "How can I get myself to watch 50+ minutes of this?" and end up just sitting all the way through without finding it boring at any point. Especially when there's a guest I like.

It's so funny how Tom has become a total roller coaster aficionado after seeing the multiple videos where he simply couldn't handle that sort of thing before

I'd love to see you guys getting more of the "serious" science and education RU-vidrs on the podcast. Like Matt Parker, Steve mould, or Brady Haran.

So tilt-shift lenses have two separate functions, tilt and shift. You can also get lenses that just do one or the other. For photographing buildings without the perspective distortion it's the shift part that's important, not the tilt. What you do is *not* point up at the building. You keep the camera level, pointing horizontally forward so the sensor is vertical. That means any vertical lines in the scene like the edges of the building will appear parallel. The shift function shifts the lens relative the camera, but for this it's easier to think of it as shifting the camera relative to the lens. So you simply shift the camera down, and because the image is upside down inside the camera that means you crop out the bottom of the photo and you start to see more of the top of the building. It's exactly equivalent to having a camera with a bigger sensor, or a with a wider angle lens, and cutting off the bottom of the picture later.

5:30 - "What's your take on Caillou hentai?" Not even 6 mins in and I'm already wheezing. XD

love how tom scott is an expert on the first looping railway cause of that citation needed episode

Knowing that Tom Scott is now a rollercoaster nerd makes me very happy

I absolutely love Tom’s work but seeing him here is a bit like seeing the the President at a frat party. It shockingly worked and was super entertaining but definitely a wait, what moment when I saw the title

I'm happy that everyone got a chance to be on Tom's podcast!

11:28 william is talking about recovering from mistakes like it's a jazz solo, that was such a good way to think about improv

"Oh no, I'm not getting tricked into a personal interview again!" "How do you feel about Caillou hentai? "So, the secret to posting a video every week..."

I want to see a version of all Nile Red videos where the intro is him talking for 15-30 minutes about the relatively simple project

Tom should be brought in as a host for sure, he fits perfectly, adds a lot of context from outside of the US, is both old and young at the same time for some reason and is generally smart and knowledgeable. It was a really good episode and should've been longer!

these are the only exact combination of 4 adult men that i would listen to talk about rollercoasters for 15 minutes

This has got to be one of the best crossovers ever

It's hilarious how quickly Tom became a rollercoaster nerd with Opinions™.

I was playing fall guys, and I had a playlist on, it's set. This comes on and I hear Tom Scott, Nile red, and William Orman. I kept listening till I realised it came out 1 day ago. This is like a dream come true.

I absolutely love this. I have watched all of you independantly for years, Tom, Nigel, William and Alan you are all so damn inspiring, and keep me trying new things and being creative. Thank you for all you do.

There's a simple reason that as technology advances, things often seem to get worse: It's insanely complicated. Not like 'oh its kinda tricky.' More like... we're essentially operating a 500 mile by 500 mile wide abacus made of rice grains with chopsticks. From the moon. It is frankly absurd that computers work at all. Even a cheap computer contains more parts than any other device ever built by mankind. The only other devices with more parts contain CPUs as one of their parts. There are billions of transistors packed into a square inch or so, flipping their states billions of times per second, and if only ONE of them isn't in PERFECT synchrony with every single other one, the entire thing immediately crashes and comes to a complete halt. We can't even program them directly any more. Even if we write in assembly, the code is translated and re-ordered and split across different execution units and unpredictably run alongside other code we've never seen, stopped at any time and restarted possibly years later, attached to devices that didn't even necessarily exist at the time of manufacture or code authoring. The CPUs also have undocumented instructions, and sidecar 'management engine' processors that can dive into its inner workings and modify things regardless of what state your code expects. And we let USERS touch the damn things! It's an absolute miracle that even something like Minesweeper works most of the time. Oh, and we let these things operate cars and critical societal infrastructure.... while also having not one single standard or licensing requirement or education requirement at all required by any company. Toyota, which turned out firmware in their cars that killed a dozen people (just in the US), didn't even give their developers a bug tracker. They didn't have version control. Automotive code has 90+ practices which are considered 'suggested' or 'recommended' by the automotive industry (entirely not legal standards, just ad hoc ones). The cost Toyota cars ran followed 4 of them. Out of over 90. And the executives at the company were found not guilty for criminal negligence. Because, as the judge correctly observed, there is exist NO legal standards that the company even could have conceivably violated. You could let middle schoolers slap together a "self driving car" software stack, and unleash it on the public, and there isn't a court in the nation that could convict you of anything. And yet, sometimes... some of it works? HOW? Also, if you understood what Tom Scott was talking about when he was talking about the 'drop' on a rollercoaster... then you understand what withdrawal from an SSRI is like. People commonly call it the "zaps". I always thought the perfect explanation of it was like when you were a kid and you went on a swing, if you ever looked at the ground as you were swinging down toward it and got that 'rushing' feeling, it is exactly that. Every time your eyes move suddenly. So I would guess that the mechanism for the sensation on rollercoasters is primarily concerned with serotonin, or lack thereof. It is PROFOUNDLY unpleasant to go through and can be quite debilitating. My prediction, which I am willing to set in the stone of the RU-vid comments, is that the first company to get real full self driving to market will be the company that cuts the most corners and doesn't listen to their engineers who say they need more time for testing, and their vehicle will plow into a group of preschoolers or some other extremely sensitive demographic, and it will be the headlines for weeks. Then the court case will be the headlines for months more. And we will get to see just how shoddy their work was, how the engineers begged them not to go to market, how the executives told them to shut up because they didn't understand "the big picture", how there were 4 managers for every 1 software engineer on the project, etc... and then the judge at the end will declare the company not guilty for negligence for the same reason mentioned before. It's flat out not POSSIBLE for a company to be negligent if there is software involved. The public will actually realize what this means this time. And they will demand action immediately. And politicians will oblige them. They will create mandatory licensing requirements, create a big bureaucracy that mandates code standards, and they will be TERRIBLE. Most likely they will mandate use of Java with Design Patterns, since that is one of the worst and most resoundingly failed ways of creating software. It'll be terrible.

When Tom started to talk about the Robo Coaster in Legoland I instantly flashed back to my childhood experience hanging upside down for 20 minutes because of that exact E-Stop malfunktioning for the one I was in. The one arm that caused the stop to be activated because of my sister who was sitting next to me starting to cry and wanting to get off. With ours being the only one that got stuck and all the others going back into disembarking psosition. Suffice to say it was not a fun experience and my sister definitely did not get off as quickly as she wanted, or as she would have if the did not start shouting for it to stop.

I've ran out of the yard and chuckle sandwich podcasts, this came out a day ago and I love Tom Scott, it's a sign I should start listening to safety third. I was never really into podcasts until recently but I love all these guys so I'm surprised I didn't start listening sooner.

I was not expecting the rollercoaster conversation, but enjoyed listening to you all nerd out about it as I work.

Tom would be the last person I'd expect to show up on this podcast, lmao

Tilt shift is also cool for making things look macro. Good example is the intro to BBC's Sherlock. The city shots look like miniatures.

Just discovered the Safety Third podcast this weekend, can't believe I've slept on it for this long as an engineer. You guys are awesome!

this was incredible content thank you guys!

In regards to film photography, I’ve just gotten into it after doing various forms of digital photography for a while, and I love it. The tangibility of it is what really made me fall in love. The whole process, from more intentional shooting, developing, enlarging, printing, and so on is a fantastic journey.

As a passenger terminal X-ray operator, the 3D X-ray scanners are cause for great jealousy. I’ve tried some of them (they’re not all Analogic, by the way; all the big players have models, from Rapiscan and Smiths to things like Nuctech) and they’re a bloody joy. Some of them actually allow you to virtually separate out individual objects, which is just incredible to experience.

I hope one day Tom Scott is more comfortable with the idea that many people are fans of him, or at least how they perceive him

This is a crossover I hadn't realized that I needed. Thanks!

absolutely perfect podcast ep thanks for this awesome collab

"I have two videos (of me being a sad man on camera)" Yeah, "I'm done" and "My house burned down" god damn

nile and tom are both really great at speaking. allen and william are funny and chaotic. ABSOLUTLEY perfect podcast

Listening to you guys talking about Magic Mountain, which is in my city, was nostalgic as my family would go there every summer, sometimes with friends.

This is amazing. Im so happy. Thank you for this video! Tom Scott is my favorite!

Oh man tom started talking about the slippery slope of film and i sad chuckled as i looked over to my two rolls of film drying hanging from my cealing and my darkroom enlarger sitting in my bedroom 😂

ALLEN you DO NOT ask Tom Scott about hentai of a children's show! Especially within the first 5 minutes!! OMG IM DYING 🤣

finally got me to watch one of these with tom. i like what all three of the other creators do, but itd never been enough to watch an hour long podcast about nothing till now

This is so much better than talking about RU-vid for an hour. Thank you Tom

THIS IS THE CROSSOVER EPISODE I'VE ALWAYS NEEDED YEEESSSSSSSSSS

40:40 Whenever roller coasters come up, I immediately think of my unpleasant experience riding Drachen Fire at Busch Gardens. I never thought about who built it, so I looked it up, sure enough, Arrow Dynamics.

That feeling on roller-coasters that tom was scared of, that's the felling I love about anything that gets your adrenaline going: roller-coasters, bungee jumping, white water rafting, etc

Hell yesss I wish I could subscribe to this podcast twice. Just started watching, can’t wait for the segment where y’all have two different conversations at the same time!

The thing about that stomach dropping feeling is that to me that's what I ride the coasters for. Maybe I still just want to be afraid, but I love that rush and I keep my eyes open the entire ride on any coaster.

tom is always a joy to listen to. every time he speaks i feel compelled to listen. he’s so eloquent and manages to make everything sound more interesting.

“Okay in terms of content consumption” The room fills with tension, everyone struggles not to say “Caillou Hentai”

Seeing 3 of my favorite youtubers in a single room fills me with joy

Wait that is Tom Scott in the Trash Taste US studio, that could mean cool things

It's amazing how much parts of this sounds like Citation Needed or The Park Bench even though Tom is just a guest.

The feeling of your tummy going when you drop is something I can get sitting still but falling in a videogame in a way that i didn't expect. I first had it with GTA:SA and still get it to this day

This is one of the best collabs I've seen yet, top 10.

I don't know how intertwined the two fandoms are, but I swear this set looks exactly like the one that Trash Taste used for their podcast while they were in the U.S. My best guess is that it belongs to Offline TV since they both have connections with the group, but I certainly don't know much about OTV itself

Arrow, older Vekoma, Gerstlauer, and to some extent Intamin have reputations for roughness, sometimes punishing roughness. New Vekomas and RMCs are super smooth, as are some B&Ms but some older B&Ms do rattle a bit. Mack triangle track coasters are generally quite smooth too.

Williams outlook on film vs digital was wonderful to hear. I haven't heard anyone articulate it as well as he did. Agree 100%

Has Cody been asked onto safety third? He's bound to have loads of interesting stories

Tom's transformation into a total coasterhead just makes me happy. :D

I KNOW this is gonna be a great one

I was not expecting to see Tom Scott on Safety Third lol. Great episode!

As someone who got quite tall very quickly growing up - it absolutely does make roller coasters more painful. As a kid I used to love them, once I hit 6 foot my back started to hurt anytime I went through a loop.

The podcast ending by William asking:Is that the end? Got me lol

That stomach drop feeling was my favorite and why I originally loved roller coasters but now that I’ve ridden so many I almost never get it anymore

I really enjoyed this! Tom is always a treat to watch, so having him hang out with you guys is rad as hell!

this worked a lot better than I was expecting it to

The title is exactly what I'd expect from this episode haha

Rollercoaster do get worse as you get taller, as there is more leverage on your back being applied by the gforce as you go around bends and unfortunately many don't support the back in those lateral Gs

I'm a coaster enthusiast, and I also like watching Tom Scott's stuff. I wasn't expecting to get a bonus coaster podcast!

Yo, I'm glad I found this podcast/channel.

I'm only 10 minutes in and this is probably my favorite special episode of safety third. I'd pay to see more content with William Osman, Allen Pan, Nigel and Tom Scott.

What an amazing piece! You should get Kevin Perjurer in this if possible! He'd nerd out on park and rollercoasters as well and it'd be wild, probably.

I genuinely wish I had never overcome my fear of rollercoasters. I finally got over my fear and was diagnosed with Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome a couple of years later (there’s no rollercoasters near my home). So now I can’t ever ride one again, because there is a risk of permanent joint injury and potentially worse things like spinal injuries and such… yay bodies! This was a great episode! Thanks for your work. It genuinely brightens up my life. Can’t wait to buy Patreon! 🥳

I love the Tom Scott +Will Osman videos!!!