Tschaikowsky: 4. Sinfonie ∙ hr-Sinfonieorchester ∙ Carlos Miguel Prieto 

I am a trombone player and I agree with you, however some instruments were used just in specific occasions, for example the trombones in some periods were used only if they played something majestic... "havenly" if I remember it correctly. But this is Tchaikovsky's style, it is romantic, and I love it.

Right! I love the sound of the horns! (Former French Horn player!❤)

When/where do violins in particular "hog" parts?

@@theultimatereductionist7592 Um, every classical piece?

except the guitar players...

and also cymbals (44:49)

Thanks for point this out about the timpani, I'd never stopped to pay attention but it's actually super cool!

A very beautiful rendidition, especially thanks to the lush tone of the orchestra. Only sometimes it seems to me to emphasize the beauty of the music at the expense of the torment that Tchaikovsky intended to convey.

Si importa el Director! No en vano se le llama Maestro!

@@Andrea72773 Hola Andrea, no pienso que Alvaro estaba dicienco que el director no importa, sino que los musicos son tan expertos que tocan increíblemente no importa quien los dirija. Todos los musicos entienden Tchaikovsky y como tocar su musico

@@willmorris8198 al más experto cazador se le puede ir la liebre... es una opinión muy particular sobre el trabajo del conductor. El director tiene que transmitir su trabajo y asi sacar esa sensibilidad y emoción de los músicos hacia la audiencia

I'm lucky enough to participate in a performance of this in the 29th. I'm stoked.

@@lamontwilder3511 Good luck! What instrument do you play?

@@porrasm Violin. I'm really having a good workout everytime I play it.

@@lamontwilder3511 Hopefully you'll get to shine. The strings in this piece are really beautiful all the way through,

@@lamontwilder3511 how did it go? I'm playing bassoon 2 on this later this semester!

what would composers have done at the end of almost every symphony had their not been the tympani to call upon?

Dude and right before when the theme from the opening comes back… oh it gives me chills every time!!

Same... Tchaikovsky also does this near the end of the 1812 Overture and something similar in Capriccio Italien

HandbrakeUser Why thanking ‘’god’’ while you could thanking Tchaikovsky himself 😒

@@leocadieux6781 ,that's too deep for me. I just think the world should be thankful for geniuses like Tchaikovsky.

This made me laugh way more than i though i tought i would, looking at comments of a symphony

@@christophmeurin8010 😀

According to what metric is Tchaikovsky's Fourth "underrated"? It's among the most often recorded classical pieces on the planet.

If you liked symp. 4 first mov Then you will like symph. 2 mov 2 Too

@@bomcabedal I think it may be considered 'under-rated' due to the snobbiness shown by many self-proclaimed classical music 'experts'. I once had someone tell me the Tchaikovsky was a 'beginner' composer, implying one would grow out of him and into more respected composers.

Personally, one of my favourite symphonic moments/passages, the dialogue between the woodwinds is just magnificent.

None of our piccolos could play this solo cleanly in my college orchestra >_>

@@thesilvershining This kind of pieces should be performed by professional orchestras).

Yes. Unfortunate. Wish I hadirected videography. I would never show the instruments withouthe faces of the players.

A lifetime of study for 3 seconds of sheer terror!

@@JP-ku5hw my youth orchestra tried to play Tchaikovsky 4 but the concert was cancelled because it was right around when the first lockdowns began. We got fourth movement sounding decent but the whole symphony is just really hard. Second and third movements were just never going to happen. Perhaps it’s for the best we didn’t end up performing it lol.

omg me too 😭

Sameee

same!

HAHAHA SAME LMAO

Omg sammmme

@Level headed LMAO PLEASE I CANT WITH THESE TYPES OF COMMENTS HJSKANDMAKSMDNAJS

💀💀

Great comment - and hilarious.

Within last 24 hours in Russia more than 1000 people died because of COVID-19. I’d be happy to write the hashtag #nostalgia but it’s still our reality..

I'm a bassoonist (NYC trained by Frank Morello) and I adore this piece. The bassoon solos are fiendishly difficult at times but they are also a joy to perform. My love affair with Tchaikovsky started with the pool scene from the film "Harold and Maude" (his 1st piano concerto, 1st movement).

@@edwardmontoya50 I just played the first bassoon part in this symphony last semester with my university's orchestra, and man those solos were nerve-racking. Especially the first solo in mvt. I. I was so glad to have gotten the experience though, you can really tell how much Tchaikovsky appreciated all wind instruments.

This melody is a pleasure for many, I guess. As a clarinetist, I love to play it just for fun. But often for the real beauties composers often prefer oboe/english horn.

No

when i was younger, it was, well...fashionable for some critics to turn their noses up at p.i. t.'s works. over the years this has changed and he is now recognized as one of the greats, certainly the greatest russian composer of the 19th century.

RU-vid can recommend things to us all day but the important part is watching, so you need to thank yourself as well for giving this symphony another chance! I’m so glad you did because the 4th is one of the all-time best imo. MTT’s version is my absolute favorite because the man understands Tchaikovsky perfectly ♥️

Who is MTT?

@@sebastianmuromusak MTT = Michael Tilson Thomas. This is the brilliant Tchaikovsky 4th he conducted with the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra: open.spotify.com/album/0CEcKeN8dOfJGWsOaiIYQE?si=h4xEc4NPTIOrcvZNNWQ9Mw&dl_branch=1

@@thesilvershining Thank you!

Something similar happened to me when I listened to Bruckner's eighth symphony for the first time. At the begining I wasn't liking it very much, it seemed without personality, but nowadays is one of my favourites symphonies

41:45 :P

@@branweg haha

How about when he presents the first subject of the second movement? (I love how it moves from solo oboe, to clarinet, to bassoon).

And lukewarm reception to that incredible bombastic finale. I hated to see the audience woken from its sleep.

I don't mind movement applause, to be honest.

@@bomcabedal I don’t mind it either. It usually signifies audience members who are unfamiliar with the piece, or have poor orchestral hall ‘manners’ generally. But it also suggests new folks in the seats. Always saddens me to attend my hometown symphony orchestra’s concerts (St. Louis Symphony Orchestra) and see empty seats in the midst of such musical talent, perfection and enjoyment. Why does it take us all so long and late in life to find our way to these treasures? Anything to attract younger audience is A -OK with me. I can swallow their tattoos, running shoes and green fingernail polish if they’ll just accept my old man blazer, gray flannels and worn down loafers.

@@frankreedy6437 I fear many professional orchestras in smaller cities don’t get the funding they deserve. Ours is so close to stopping performances and I’m just so sad because they are phenomenal!

@@frankreedy6437 I wish orchestra halls get filled up more nowadays around the world not just in Europe, however my home orchestra in Toronto usually has full halls so I can’t complain but I wish there are more around the world and in St,Louis

L l T?? ..totally agree though.. it's an incredible piece. a tone poem by itself.. such dynamic range from a solo, to the battering of "ffff" !!

@@davidevans3227 Absolutely. The first movement of the 6th is the same way, imo, a mini symphony within a symphony.

@@thesilvershining ..sometimes his music moves me, simply because its so good..

@@davidevans3227 I daresay no composer has ever moved me more often than Tchaikovsky. He certainly had a way with the musical language, so many emotions but also profound beauty straight to the soul.

@@thesilvershining so great to catch someone with good taste.. 🙂 ..would you know if Valerie gergiev has done the Manfred symphony?? him and the Kirov banging out Manfred is something i'd like to hear! he played the serenade with the Kirov strings here in my town.. was so lucky to go..

Measure 78 for 2nds violins mvt 4 I swear is way harder than what the 1st violins have😂

So everyone be playing Finale of Tchaikovsky 4 😭✋. And yes I may be first, but I agree seconds have it harder

Don’t speak spanish. Some languages are more interesting.

@@JP-ku5hw You're so right. And English isn't one of them.

@@BAAJ1998 When you learn how to speak English in a proper way, you can say it's a boring language. Otherwise, you can't.

@@JP-ku5hwEnglish is indeed, a very poor language as compared with Spanish, I bet you can’t speak spanish and therefore, you do not know what you are talking about, cheers

Amen. I live in the country as well, and now, thanks to finally getting good internet, can bring the whole best of art, music, literature and movies to my big screen and stereo to our little farm. No hassle of the big city, can play my music as loud as I want. I discovered Frankfurt Radio Symphony when COVID started, their concerts save(d) me.

Acho o terceiro mov pesado e muito louco

T’s contemporary critics blasted his first movement as too long and repetitive. I happen to enjoy it. But he was truly submerged in some kind of internal torture, for certain.

Actually the 4. movement is a Folksong (береза стояла.....)

The nightmare of the piccolist... He did it so well

When Leonard Bernstein used to conduct this symphony, he'd have the oboist from the 2nd moment, the piccoloist, and the horn section take their own bow at the end.

Also the Finale, he pierced through that grand tutti with grace 🙌

@@HeartlessConservativ Awesome, they all deserve it.

Penelope Kimball Yes, I too love this movement. I particular love the middle section 24:34 and for me 25:07 is very special indeed. 💘

Yesssss!!!

One piece of live music I've ever seen has moved me to have to hold back tears: the 2nd movement of Tchaikovsky's 4th.

Same here. I once had the incredible (pre-COVID) privilege of hearing this performed live, and it was literally breathtaking. Tchaikovsky is stunning.

It is Very beautiful. I think his best movement is begging of his 6th

Calma. Ele inventava melodias bonitas pra conquistar clientela

​@@MarkGond por isso ele é um dos maiores compositores da história.

@@neemiasmoreira9601 um dos mais populares. E ótimo em orquestração e harmonia. Sobre ser um dos melhores, faltou inovação a ele, como Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Wagner, Shostakovich,

저두요 ㅎ

The first flautist is Clara Andrea de la Calle

and how they „speak“ to eachother in last movement. beautiful

@@anandsamuel1978 Clara Andrada de la Calle

0:26 20:17 30:55 36:44

Mega Vicar ありがとうー！！😇

yes lol. I was totally relaxing anthen BOOM

Yes! Totally agree!. The sound that the orquestas and sound engineers are looking for is something more "academic", without risk... I never agreed with it, they forgot about aggresive emotions that are so real and human (and more interesting in a artistic performance)

I went to see a concert on thus piece and it totally had me off guard

I srsly set it as the alarm clock XD

@@khabanh6928 🤣

What instrument do you play? I played bassoon 2 on this last November. One of the best musical experiences I've ever had. Good luck (if you haven't already performed it) :)

ja vind ik ook

Definitely one of my favorites for 30+ years ♥️

Not the greatest but its up there

It's not made it was composed and very very powerful and beautiful.

Lawrie i agree

Agreed! "Where's the beat?"

I saw like 3 different downbeats in a lot of places

i kept getting confused where the beat was and resorted to following the beat of the orchestra, wherever they got it from ;-;

It's some kind of wave moving

❤

Indeed you cant ask for the passion or the type of passion that the germans simply dont have. But REIGN SUPREME in quality

@@lestermatos2989 Rubbish. Listen to this orchestra's performance of Tchaikovsky's 5th under Manfred Honeck. Two different worlds regarding passion, all depending on the conductor.

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