Tuning The Hoyt Ventom RX-5

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I've been getting a lot of questions lately on tuning the 2021 line up of Hoyt bows. In this video I go over my method of tuning them and how to do it.
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@davidbuurma9309 3 года назад

Finally got my ventum today...first time ever setting up my own bow...top cam off 3/16 or so... thanks to this vid... now in time... would love to see the full set up when u get the time...thanks for doing this for us...

@dsblackfly21 3 года назад

I usually don't comment on vids. But dude your vids are the bomb man. Love them. Always super informative and i like the honest opinions. Live in rural Utah. Because of a couple bad experiences with our local shop I've decided to go full blown self service - i love bows and should've done it a long time ago honestly. Just got my press last week, and your vids give me all the info im looking for. Keep up the good work boss!

@jamesstrength9483 2 года назад

Awesome video. Great info that lots of people don't know.

@Jimbowiejr 3 года назад

Three days late, because of lack of good hoyt bow shops in SC I bought the bow in Colo (have a cabin there) and ordered a last chance portable bow press with draw board. Had a bad tail left tear, plus couldn't see all my sight. Move both shims top and bottom, now it's as close to perfect as I'll ever do. Thanks for explaining, I now understand what I did 😎

@patrickbrandecker7027 2 года назад

I also have a bad left tear

@Jimbowiejr 2 года назад

Since that time I bought a shim kit from Lancaster Archery, this allowed me to use a thicker shim on the right to move sting to the left, top and bottom. The only thing you need to do is Mike the stock shims togather and then pick shims that are the same Total width. I shooting the best I ever have since doing that. Must be 30/40 shims in kit for apt 50$

@jordanmotruk5827 3 месяца назад

This was really great

@MrBrandonPetersen 2 года назад

Awesome video!

@mitchellkylerhenderson1316 3 года назад

Great video!

@Jimbowiejr 3 года назад

One other item, those who don't have access to the Hoyt shim tool can use a Hemostat curved 5.5 to hold shims, it works great. Amazon or having a nurse in the family helps.

@beeefstick 2 года назад

Thanks! This was helpful

@kurtisvoris2696 2 года назад

Thank you this was the first helpful video I found for my rx5. I’m adjusted all the way in on my MX integrate QAD rest and the arrow still sits inward. Need to find out where to buy the shim kit. Mine is so far out I’m pretty sure my fletchings are hitting my down cable. Not sure why it’s so far off but it’s bad. Had it at two bow shops now and no help.

@markperkins9150 2 года назад

Hey thanks just what I was looking for. An explanation of cause and effect for the HBX system. Just to let you know the Hoyt support site has a short video on the procedure of changing them out with the special tool. Just not why or which way.

@waynestevenson9613 3 года назад

Great info for all of the wannabe tuners! 👍🏽 Def need a press! Anyone that wants to tune their own equip could save this vid for a reference for speed and efficiency.

@mikea.6356 3 года назад

What a good reason to shoot a new Bowtech or a Elite Kure etc. to avoid this complicated tuning with bow press!

@livingadreamlife1428 3 года назад

This is a 5 min job for someone who knows what they’re doing. That’s how long it took me to swap the spacers from one side to another, and shot bullets. Relatively easy and painless.

@montuckyman4982 3 года назад

And when it's dialed it stays that way for the next string you get etc..pluses and minuses.

@johncannady6105 3 года назад

Thanks for the video. I have never heard a bowtech refer to the faster cam as "open." It is a bit confusing because I think of an "open" cam during the draw cycle as the one that leaves a gap between the stop and the cable, i.e. slower.

@InsideOutPrecision 3 года назад

Yeah just depends how you look at it I guess! It's behind on the draw, but ahead on the shot 🤷

@peterhansen4671 3 года назад

I noticed you're not running a spring on your hamskea. Do you need to swap out the lever arm to delete the spring? What are the advantages of deleting the spring?

@callummethley5082 2 года назад

Hey , such a great video!!! What should the centre of the arrow be (more or less) from the riser at the button be on a Ventum 30, I had to pu the cams as far left as possible to get my vanes to clear the bus cable (Max Stealth vanes) It was aiming waaaaay left when the rest was in its centre (QAD Integrate) position. Moved it in a s far as I can to get it straight as possible without hitting the cables.

@livingadreamlife1428 2 года назад

A knock-off shim tool is already available for sale to GP in some archery pro shops.

@awoloutdoors2521 2 года назад

on my ventum 30 I set my center shot and now im getting fletching contact on my cables. my bow shop ordered the shim kit but while we wait for it to show up( we are in Canada) I was curious if you had any suggestions for the shims that are already in it. it looks like my shims are crossed. thicker one on the left bottom and top right of the cams. couldnt I just put both thick shims on the right side to push the cams over?

@CodyRay013 3 года назад

Awesome video! Can you do a bow build on a ventom. You explain everything very well!

@outdooraddictionwv5299 3 года назад

Was just wondering if that bow is tuned up. My cams have about the same amount of lean as the bow in the vid. Is that normal

@paulfredrick9872 3 года назад

I have a ventum 33. I do think there's a slight flaw with the system. One as you mentioned, if you push the cams to the right, if you use something like a spot hogg there's no getting around the riser blocking part of the housing (in part because the riser is so fat in that area). Also if you use the black spacers, fletch clearance is minimal. I got my right tare out by swapping the bottom grey spacers, and even then clearance is close. Hoyt also mentioned this in their tune chart. Maybe a split cable system like Mathews would help this? It would pull on both sides of the cam instead of hard on one side. Just a thought.

@chs9627 Год назад

Im shimmed to the left and the riser still blocks part of my sight, it's pretty normal.

@MoseMoser 3 года назад

Yep, that rx5ultra I picked up a couple weeks ago needed older Hoyt slightly thinner and slightly wider shims to get it out of the slight tear, glad Trent found them hidden away. oh, sorry again I took the Ultra you were going to review on, ALL YALL WAITING CAN BLAME ME. :)

@richardganz9318 3 года назад

Got the gray one

@jorgeduran9329 3 года назад

Awesome video.. You are, in my opinion the best guy explaining bowshop info.. I have been following your stuff the past 3 years.. Thanks man

@trevorhulsey2659 3 года назад

What is the center shot supposed to be for the RX5? Mine should be in next week and can’t find it online Hoyt says 5/8-13/16 but curious if anyone has a better, more precise measurement to start

@josephchavez8280 2 года назад

I know for a fact my local hoyt shops won’t give you the time of day especially if you didn’t buy the bow brand new from them. I tent to try to save as much money as I can and buy used bows from others or eBay etc. unfortunately I lose out on customer service from shops by doing that.

@GreatWhiteStud Год назад

Love the video. I think they are a flaw in hoyts system. If they would use S.E.T. technology like what elite has it would solve so much..

@jeffreyccv 3 года назад

Hey brother I watch and love your series all day long... I ordered a a ventum 30 and garmin a1i sight back January. I was told itll be at my local shop in May.. i already missed the spring bear hunt.. is the demand for bows really that high? Thanks and cheers 🍻

@mustang268 3 года назад

It's also a pandemic you're not the only one waiting if it was me I would cancel it and wait to see what Hoyt or whoever comes out with next year at this point if you dont already have a bow to hunt with if you dont like any new ones you'll get the old one you bought cheaper and faster I waited 6 weeks for my bow to come in but that was in 2019 before all this started

@edhead35 3 года назад

Stuff in the northeast are 12 to 22 weeks out for bows

@montuckyman4982 3 года назад

Waited 13 weeks for my ventum. Just got it. Sorta insane. Everyone killed production capacity, then people had lots of money left over from no traveling, , Biden funny money, etc. And time on their hands to spend it. And the orders flooded in and swamped all these businesses that didn't forsee this. Some did better than other. Order fishing stuff from tackle warehouse. They get around to filling your order in two weeks. Order from discount tackle , out the door next day. 🤔

@jeffreyccv 3 года назад

@@montuckyman4982 I waited about the same.. The bow is definitely worth the wait. I'm up in Canada so no funny Biden money . Or slick hairdo money lol for me. Good ole stock market bought mine! $iik bow!

@brutallyhonestmf5578 3 года назад

On my Axius the center shot is perfect but my Spott Hogg fast Eddie xl hides a little bit behind the riser( maybe 10%). Also shoots bullet holes through paper. It's that normal?

@jimmywallhanger8402 2 года назад

Yes, mine does the exact same thing. its so annoying. I have teh Axius Alpha, and same thing on my old Nitrum Turbo.

@Jagalvan37 10 месяцев назад

What if the cable touches the cam at perfect tune. And my arrow is 1/2 inch from the riser?

@geb263 3 года назад

Hello, I am struggling with tuning my Ventum. Its perfect through the paper but the arrow points significantly left. I tried all the shims, but it still points to the left. Any help would be much appreciated :)

@edhead35 3 года назад

How far away is the paper tune. Seems like many pros talk about a close up paper for initial setup and then a 20 or 21 ft paper tune. If you're doing a close up paper tune, and arrows are sideways at distance I would paper tune further out when the arrow isnt still reacting so much. Get it close with shims then fine tune with rest. I'm a newb, and there are a million ways to do this but it's worked for me so far.

@milkrvr4088 2 года назад

Go to a shop

@stevew3718 3 года назад

Are you noticing that with the new hoyts, they are not timed with the shims and cams?. I get it with the d-loop and arrow rest may need to be adjusted but you would think that the cams should be timed and no need to add or remove shims especially on a new bow direct from the factory. Especially at the prices they are charging for their new flagship bows.

@Umslopogas666 3 года назад

Shimming is always an issue that depends largely on the shooter‘s grip so it’s very individual. A bow that is shimmed/tuned for me probably won’t shoot well for you and as far as timing goes, you just have to re-check it after a couple hundred shots and all the components have settled in. That’s just the way it is with new bows - no matter the manufacturer...

@chethans7491 3 года назад

I bought the ventum 30 and noticed looking down from the top of the bow my arrow was pointing way left,.. I started doing some measurements and the string from the riser to the outside of the string was slightly above a half an inch, I really hope I'm not going to have to lean the cams way out with the shims to compensate for that.

@stevew3718 3 года назад

@@chethans7491 if i got a new bow and the shims were that much out, i would send it right back to hoyt! Get them to fix the issue. Brand new bows should not be delivered like that, they should be pretty close to perfect out of the box... that is just my opinion.

@bassamaticfpv4354 10 месяцев назад

I paper tuned my Mathew’s Vertix w rest only but ended up moving rest way left and now my sights are maxed on adjustment. I’ve adjusted rest back the other way during a walk back tune to get center. And checking on paper still pretty good. Should I try to mess w shims and yokes now to try n get the adjustment back in my sights ? I feel confident in my groups now except when shooting fixed blades I get more open groups past 25yds which I can’t say if it’s just my shooting, or what.

@InsideOutPrecision 10 месяцев назад

Leave you’re rest at 13/16” of an inch from the riser. Then use the top hats (shims) to tune.

@blackarm3265 3 года назад

Hey bro I have a Hoyt nitrux it's at like#67 I shoot all the time I was wondering if you had any arrow suggestions as far as brand my draw length is set at 30" I think I might need a bow with like 30.5 caz my d loop I had to make an inch long to make comfortable anyway I cut my arrows at 28.5 I shoot target 🎯 I'm not hunting an if I was I'd be more interested in shooting ground hogs or prairie dogs something like fun and challenging anyway I just was wondering if you knew a good thinner arrow like .001in straightness so if I'm cutting to 28.5 I was wondering what spine I should use as of now I use black eagle 350 those zombie slayer but I'd like to get nicer like. $160 to $240 a dozen as far as price point thanks for your time and thanks for taking time and responding I appreciate that you take the time happy easter and be well🤙🏹🏹🇺🇸🇺🇸🎯🎯

@ChilleDxFighteR 2 года назад

I've been going nuts over tears like my shop had to move my rest all the way out to get a bullet hole and it's been driving me insane

@InsideOutPrecision 2 года назад

Why aren't they using the spacers instead of moving the rest? Rookies!

@ChilleDxFighteR 2 года назад

@@InsideOutPrecision I think he is out and waiting on a more to come in he swapped the ships around and it made it better but I think he said he is out but I'm in quarantine ATM so been trying to get everything figured out best I can to get use to the new bow

@blaydenzahner9379 2 года назад

Anyone have a problem with the cam rubbing on the cables?

@EDHBowman 3 года назад

How about a video on the new PBTS on the PSE Evo EVL and yoke tuning?

@DerrellD1988 3 года назад

Do you know how to remove the grips from a ventum ? I can’t find anything online.

@InsideOutPrecision 3 года назад

Heat up the front of the grip for a couple minutes with a hair dryer, then use a small flat head screw driver to pry it off

@DerrellD1988 3 года назад

@@InsideOutPrecision You’re the man!! Thank you!!

@douglasgreaves1137 2 года назад

Hey bro.. iv gone through the whole process like you said.. cams in time, arrow through the burger hole, and had tail right tears so pushed and then swapped out the greys for the black spacers both cams pushed as far right as possible with the spacers and now bear shafts are on with the field points but my rest is still pushed way left..?? Anything I can do to get it more in line..?

@InsideOutPrecision 2 года назад

Not really. If that's where it tunes then you just have tonshoot it there. The hoyts are very sensible to grip pressure. With out being able to see you shoot its hard to say ifnits your gripnor not thats causing the tail right

@douglasgreaves1137 2 года назад

@@InsideOutPrecision thanks for the info.. iv finally got my Landslyde picatinny sight arriving today.. ordered in May.. so I’ll go through the whole thing again and then really concentrate on my grip..! Sorry to bother you but I’m all on my ace here with no one to help me figure things out and your info does help big time..! Have the best day ever mate..!

@InsideOutPrecision 2 года назад

@@douglasgreaves1137 nice! I'm still waiting on my landslyde that I ordered in August haha. I can try to send you some vids on IG about the grip if you're still having trouble

@douglasgreaves1137 2 года назад

@@InsideOutPrecision I got a good tip from one of the channels Late to the Game.. once at full dram and in anchor look up the string.. it should be in line with top cam.. mine was off.. redone the Center shot and made sure the cam and string was aligned and hay presto.. had to shim it back a bit but now I’m straight down the middle and bare shafting well.. good tip to check torque..! Cheers for your help..!!

@calicountryguy9085 3 года назад

why would u want the top cam open a hair over the bottom. I have always heard the opposite

@rwfinger 2 года назад

My rx5 cam spacers are reversed top and bottom. Thick on one side top, thin on the same side, bottom. Is this normal? Getting a left tear consistently and would love to solve it with proper spacers.

@InsideOutPrecision 2 года назад

There’s no rhyme or reason as to how the spacers are configured from the factory. You need to push both cams to the left (large spacer on the right, small on the left). If that doesn’t fix it then you need to use the black shims as explained in this video

@rwfinger 2 года назад

@@InsideOutPrecision I appreciate the suggestion and will give it a try. My local shop says the way they are is correct but it leaves the string canted. Doesn’t make any sense.

@InsideOutPrecision 2 года назад

@@rwfinger don’t worry about cam lean, that’s literally how the bow is designed to be tuned. Hoyt had no idea what draw weight, draw length, arrow,etc., youll be shooting so I promise they do not tune the bow before it leaves the factory. You will see cam lean when you shim the cams, and it’s supposed to be like that. Either your shop just doesn’t know how to tune them or they’re being lazy

@wereverywhere2.037 3 года назад

I bought 3 hoyt bows from the same dealer over the last 3 yrs. Powermax, Helix, and now a Ventum 30. Never once has he had me shoot through paper. Is he disregarding my purchase and just don't care? He's obviously a Mathews guy and always in a rush dealing with my bows. I'm about to buy a press just to get away from having to take it in

@justintorres08 3 года назад

That’s a horrible shop man. That’s pure laziness.

@jase1911 3 года назад

Find a different shop rather then buying a press

@edhead35 3 года назад

Most shops don't seem to put the time on for the average guy. Especially if they think we can't shoot well enough to justify the extra effort. Maybe they're right but with RU-vid people are getting alot of knowledge they otherwise wouldn't and they should spend more time.

@wereverywhere2.037 3 года назад

@@edhead35 you're right! I'm not very good and have only been shooting for a couple years. I'm learning alot on RU-vid. I tried making a relationship with my local bow tech and every time I buy something from him I realize he rips me off alot. Example a QAD HDX he opens the package and mounts it on my bow. But never gives me the extra felt tape or arms that would come with it. I never seen him use a level on my bow. Etc. I Had him order me a hoyt stabilizer and he kept the extra colored weights. Its the little things like that. My Ventum 30 should have came with a picitinny rail that he never gave me. I wish they other pros closer that I can deal with

@jase1911 3 года назад

@@wereverywhere2.037 dude you seriously need to hammer this guy and anything you buy should be 50% off until he gives you all your stuff