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Our high performance Predator 670 dragster CVT blows up! The turbo 670cc V twin is ok, but the CVT torque converter driver blew to pieces, taking out a turbo oil line, cracking the carburetor bowl, and knocking off the air filter. The CarsandCameras drag rail blows up in this episode, but we will find a snowmobile transmission, and we'll take our Predator 670cc dragster back to the drag strip soon!
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@bananas401k
@bananas401k Год назад
thats about the most impressive way of breaking a torque converter ive ever seen, get yourself a polaris cvt driver those can handle a whole lot more power
@BeetleSmasher
@BeetleSmasher Год назад
Yea it can handle a lot of power but not a lot of rpm they engage at like 3000 and stop at 5500 I think so nah
@YellohFoxGaming
@YellohFoxGaming Год назад
Comet clutch and a small metal shield for possible failure would work great so you dont catch a clutch weight to the face at 5k+ rpm
@dannybeausejour7205
@dannybeausejour7205 Год назад
Cvtech from canada can handle upwards of 200 hp for a power block the trail block 100+hp polaris and brp guys usualy buy thos or the daltons cvt's
@rokuplayz464
@rokuplayz464 Год назад
@@BeetleSmasher that’s not how a cvt works
@lowkeyquintin4202
@lowkeyquintin4202 Год назад
@@BeetleSmasher that’s not how a cvt works look it up if you don’t know
@CarsandCameras
@CarsandCameras Год назад
The fact that the engine survived 8,000+ RPM is insane. We definitely need a dedicated CVT guard next time around!
@PotatoeJoe69
@PotatoeJoe69 Год назад
Throw a Sportster engine in there, and put a Hammer Performance 1275 kit in it. Easy 150hp 👍 Plus you get the benefit of a 5 speed gearbox, would be easy to run the clutch cable to a foot pedal and custom fabricate a shift lever that simply goes back and forth. If you're feeling really creative, you could maybe even have the shift lever work the clutch and change gears in the same movement. Would be kinda awesome.
@rishibhargav5161
@rishibhargav5161 Год назад
Or use the Honda 919 engine with turbos it would give out about 150 hp
@rydplrs71
@rydplrs71 Год назад
Luckily the oil didn’t catch fire. The firewall didn’t do its job.
@jackmagnium6115
@jackmagnium6115 Год назад
@CarsandCameras pin me if you guys want. well i did warn you that you needed a transmission and not a chain drive as i promised before. I TOLD YOU SO!! now next time get a three speed bike transmission and mount it longitudinal. remember as i said before. guys in the 60's did what you guys are doing. and it worked but it was unreliable and often was prone to failure. thats why the front engine formula always was a longitude style engine postition. i knew something was gonna break in the drive line.. so. will you start taking my advice now?
@99jivvity
@99jivvity Год назад
Scatter shield.
@marcelpursche5339
@marcelpursche5339 Год назад
I love the Harley transmission idea. Having a sequential stick shift(or pedal shifters on the steering wheel like on your offroad projects) would be really cool on this project.
@donalbershardt9290
@donalbershardt9290 Год назад
HARLEY TRANSMISIÓNS Rob a lot of H. P. But it will Never Blow up. 👍
@Louzahsol
@Louzahsol Год назад
@@donalbershardt9290 that’s why they just need a hyabusa drivetrain
@mrbmp09
@mrbmp09 Год назад
Harley parts???? It's already laying down enough oil....
@randysmith5395
@randysmith5395 Год назад
Softail five speed perfect
@2v_media
@2v_media Год назад
@@Louzahsol If you ask me the Ducarti has too much power on such a short wheelbase, awesome as it is. That setup with a sequential over paddles in the rail would be insane.
@dreadgnarr
@dreadgnarr Год назад
Good thing he stayed right in the middle of the track to ensure maximum oil coverage.
@FRENZY355
@FRENZY355 Год назад
massive facepalm seeing that - no1 rule broken!, so ignorant
@sandmanbub
@sandmanbub Год назад
With all the fuel that came pouring out, you can see the need for a fire proof hood, worn under the helmet, that covers your neck. So glad the fuel did not ignite. I have seen the results of fire on a slingshot style drag rail at 2 of my drag strips and the end result was horrifying and sad. You have a nice set of race trim leathers, but really need a little more protection. Your fans want you to remain healthy and safe. Just finished watching and found out the liquid was oil, not fuel. You're extremely fortunate Ike. I was wondering why, what I thought was fuel, did not ignite.
@Hitycooking
@Hitycooking Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JqzuJaeykW8.html
@cavemanvi
@cavemanvi Год назад
the fuel was pouring on the battery.. plus hot oil.. so glad that guy from 1997 with the puka shell necklace is fine!
@davolbc
@davolbc Год назад
They severely lack in safety equipment and almost every video that I have watched. They are very lucky the serious injury to Isaac's shoulder was the only thing that has occurred so far. Riding bikes most of my life everyone knows when you go down even on a bicycle the first thing you try and stop your fall with is your hands and they turn into hamburger but yet they don't wear gloves at least 90% of the time. A lot of young kids I'm sure watch these videos and this is no example as far as safety goes they need to look into that or it's possible someone might report them. And yes everybody wants all of them safe and healthy it's not that big a deal and you don't look like a wuss just because you protect yourself with proper gear but it appears they don't listen as I have made this recommendation well over a year ago multiple times. I'm surprised the track doesn't require it.
@Thomas63r2
@Thomas63r2 Год назад
Disaster awaits for those who disrespect safety considerations - like the dude who was severely injured at one of the Cleetus Freedom Factory events who should have been safety flagged. Any type of open wheel vehicle has a whole different set of safety concerns.
@danijuggernaut
@danijuggernaut Год назад
He was damn lucky, he coulded burn to death.
@jcb5565
@jcb5565 Год назад
With all those flying parts that’s a good indication you might need a scatter shield. Safety safety.
@Hitycooking
@Hitycooking Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JqzuJaeykW8.html
@jeep2003
@jeep2003 Год назад
I always warn people to put a guard on their torque converters because they blow up like a grenade. they dont care
@bradley3549
@bradley3549 Год назад
Yup, 100%. Even if they are too cool for all the safety, they seem quite embarrassed about oiling down the track and a good shield would have solved that too.
@dljones61
@dljones61 Год назад
Agreed, scatter shield is a must. It was lucky those pieces flew up and forwards a bit. Keep going guys, 60 something year old guy here is pulling for you all.
@henrytaylor3049
@henrytaylor3049 Год назад
gotta protect them primary investments. never underestimate the bottom line.
@brandonhewitt2386
@brandonhewitt2386 Год назад
I saw my name on the Dragster! I didn't realize I'd be this excited about it. I haven't felt this happy in a long time. Barely keeping a roof over my family's head, but seeing my name really felt awesome. Thanks guys
@Oldmane-420
@Oldmane-420 Год назад
Hey guys, crazy Canuck here. I’ve ridden high performance mountain sleds that have produced up to 320 hp, that particular sled ran a Polaris four post primary clutch on the engine and could withstand the 9500 rpm the engine turned at. Talk to sledders, they can help you determine the correct weight and spring combination to obtain optimum shift rpm while maintaining maximum grip on the belt. Plus as an added bonus you have limited adjustment of your stall speed which should help your hole shot tremendously. Also keep in mind snowmobile belts can handle huge horsepower and not fail. On a safety note! Put a belt guard on that thing! I once got hit by a piece of belt frac after it bounced around engine compartment than came out through the hood and hit me in the shoulder, it left a bruise and sore shoulder for about three weeks! You fella’s are entering fatale speed territory, take some precautions please! I just found this Chanel and I want to see lots more of your ingenuity and insanity! I love it! A machine built from scratch using components never before mated and than tuning it til it goes killer fast…. What more is there!?!? Oh! Wait! (HEADSLAP) That’s right! Make it go faster!! Thanks for the great content from a new subscriber, stay safe, motor on! Regards Mel from Quesnel
@hotrod7938
@hotrod7938 Год назад
Use a snowmobile CVT. Right off a sled. Many are good for 150hp. Plus much aftermarket support with weights and spring's to keep the engine in the perfect RPM. I would love to see you guys try a XCR Polaris 800 engine and clutches. That would pull 100mph in the 1/8th
@Hitycooking
@Hitycooking Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JqzuJaeykW8.html
@dreamshop6071
@dreamshop6071 Год назад
Yea, it would be nice to get them rippims up past that stumble before you engage drive.
@stevenbryant3055
@stevenbryant3055 Год назад
Something tells me it’s not a great idea to use a cvt because if it slips the belt like this one did it could make a bigger more potentially lethal bang, a trans and clutch from a motorcycle makes more sense just for safety, sleds are robust but they’re not built for top tier traction on prepped surfaces and could be even more prone to slipping a belt and blowing up the cvt, I’m not completely for or against a cvt but from seeing how everything went down that idea should go to a future project where centrifugal force, who knows how many rpm, and potential belt slipping upon launch is less likely to harm Ike
@toddfields9128
@toddfields9128 Год назад
Yep use a snowmobile clutch Some of them will handle a lot of power and rpms wont be a issue
@Yz4Life
@Yz4Life Год назад
@@stevenbryant3055 clutch blowing up isn’t an issue, You usually have the entire cvt system enclosed in stainless steel.
@thunderpants645
@thunderpants645 Год назад
I respect the fact they show and explain the failures. Back yard ingenuity at it's best. Thank you, gentlemen.
@Hitycooking
@Hitycooking Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JqzuJaeykW8.html
@Dreamstunt2025
@Dreamstunt2025 Год назад
It was a great honor meeting you guys at a RC shop. I am the Autistic guy that loves people. Thank you so much for making the trip to see everyone from Anderson RC. God bless you guys. From Mark Hunter!
@lokedog916
@lokedog916 Год назад
Dude I’m so happy I made it on the firewall! That means so much to me, love the t shirt too! You guys are awesome and I hope you guys keep motivated with the drag rail it’s my favorite project so far! Have you thought about drilling out the emulsion tube in the carb? That could be limiting you on the fueling side, I think the reason the 38mm didn’t work was the engine wasn’t pulling enough air to create a strong enough signal to pull fuel through it.
@Ratkill9000
@Ratkill9000 Год назад
You may have to buy like a Comet 102c or 108c setup. They are upgraded CVT clutches for older 2 stroke snowmobiles. They hold up to 100hp or so.
@NotMeeither
@NotMeeither Год назад
They would run the secondary backwards and have the same problem!
@bolkegard
@bolkegard Год назад
and are good for 10000+ rpm
@Ratkill9000
@Ratkill9000 Год назад
@@NotMeeither How would they have the same problem? It has a much higher rating than most anything on the market. They would need a 30mm tapered sleeve and get weights for it. Also need the 90D driven or 100D driven pulley.
@reesewilliamson3346
@reesewilliamson3346 Год назад
I've personally run 200hp through a 102 and it held up good
@Tommysmess
@Tommysmess Год назад
@@bolkegard they would have issues with it not fully engaging if the engine can only rev to 8500 rpm, they could spray with nos for those extra revs but then probably only get 9k out of it
@draggonhedd
@draggonhedd Год назад
Time to go EFI with launch control and a hard RPM limiter. (Check out speeduino!)
@Ratkill9000
@Ratkill9000 Год назад
That's over a $1000 there
@177SCmaro
@177SCmaro Год назад
I was thinking the same thing.
@maxxproductions7749
@maxxproductions7749 Год назад
For sure
@jasonstalder5208
@jasonstalder5208 Год назад
@@Ratkill9000 only if you purchase new. and considering what they're trying to do its definitely worthwhile
@fernandop937
@fernandop937 Год назад
@@Ratkill9000 that’s why we’re buying merch tho right
@BrickHouseBuilds
@BrickHouseBuilds Год назад
A 4 or 5 speed Harley trans would give you obvious gear abilities while being compact. Clutch gives all the extra control you want and of course a huge aftermarket.
@danielsells76
@danielsells76 Год назад
I'm happy that no one hurt when the cvt let go, I got idea for build for you and all the RU-vidrs you know and some don't yet know I saw a show of lawn tractor pulls and thought it would be great to see all of the RU-vidrs challenge each other to build one and see how far you could pull the sled.
@bodine2537
@bodine2537 Год назад
Hey Ike, when you blow up at the drag strip you’re supposed to pull over to the side so oil doesn’t get strewn all the way down the track but glad you’re alright , no need to be embarrassed guys, blowing up at the track is part of it, I really wish it would’ve stayed together though cause that sucker really took off at the line til it ran out of gear an went caplooy , patch her back up an make a triumphant return for redemption lol 🤙🏼
@tylerrussell6779
@tylerrussell6779 Год назад
Based on the goggles he showed in the pits I'm thinking he couldn't see... Better off to keep it in the middle then run it into the wall
@_JamesBrown
@_JamesBrown Год назад
Get over.
@Lively_1185
@Lively_1185 Год назад
@@tylerrussell6779 Well since the helmet cam represents what Ike is seeing, it was also covered in oil. So definitely he wasn't able to see anything to drive or pull over properly.
@cannonballrepair7940
@cannonballrepair7940 Год назад
I was thrilled to have the chance to witness this first hand! Hate that it broke but glad everyone was ok! I’m happy to meet y’all as well! Hope to see y’all at the track again soon!
@alanbabcock1438
@alanbabcock1438 Год назад
You guys are awesome! You have experienced what all those who push the limits experience, the limit. Now you know your equipment's present weakness and have a place to focus on. Keep on pushing!
@theracerguy754
@theracerguy754 Год назад
You guys are so humble. I love that. But I believe everyone understand the situation. I’m glad the driver is 👍.
@GoldenCroc
@GoldenCroc Год назад
"It'll be fine" is a nice, chill attitude to have in general, and great for youtube content when things goes sideways. But sometimes it just isnt good enough. Especially when playing with more power, nitro/methanol fuel, and parts that are, in all honesty, likely to blow up. Disregarding oil and pieces on the track, tech inspections and safety regs were often written in blood. Flying parts and potential alcohol invisible fires are no laughing matter. Please take this just a bit more seriously, we want to keep having you around. /old racer.
@Nickwillfixit
@Nickwillfixit Год назад
You forgot the Golden Rule always pull over to the railing's as soon as you have a problem it makes sure as little as possible fluids are dropped on the main track, clean up can be quicker.
@marcpavlik8776
@marcpavlik8776 Год назад
I thought of that too, but the smoke screen didn't help, might just as easily hot the wall. By the time the smoke cleared it was nearly at a standstill.
@jfolck1886
@jfolck1886 Год назад
I was thinking the same thing but you can see as soon as it blows The camera and Ike's goggles were covered. Maybe he wasn't able to see well enough to get to the side
@adamr9215
@adamr9215 Год назад
Did you see his goggles? They were covered in oil and he probably couldn’t see well. Also, he was between the grooves. Had he moved to the side, he would have dumped oil across the actual surface that most cars have rubber on. You can see the two tracks that cars follow, oil in the middle is less of a problem than oil crossing those tracks. In this case, staying in the middle was probably the best option.
@bdubz5150
@bdubz5150 Год назад
I just remembered why I like your rail goKart so much. Reminds me of the Zingers Cars of the 70's 👍🇺🇲🇺🇲
@martinburgess4814
@martinburgess4814 Год назад
Wow glad Ike is not injured. That waz close.All the best to you all.
@carlnorton4952
@carlnorton4952 Год назад
Definitely needs a transmission. Would love to see y'all banging gears down the track.
@reviewaccount469
@reviewaccount469 Год назад
Yep, I totally understand their hesitation of "well it would require redesigning...", but it looks like its that time. CVTs only get you so far. I think that was the biggest weakness of RBGs supercharged buggy too. He basically stopped doing videos on it after he built it.
@79huddy
@79huddy Год назад
Yep a Harley transmission would get the job done and aren't overly expensive for a used stock one
@Robert-qm7yi
@Robert-qm7yi Год назад
@@reviewaccount469 I mean there's snowmobiles that make 200 hp, they can run a CVT on a 670 harbor freight engine. Only question is getting the right CVT
@trxtech3010
@trxtech3010 Год назад
I think they need to do like a CRF450R engine or maybe even a 2 Cylindr CBR500 Engine.... Or a 2010 or newer EFI/Electric start YZ450F engine. Honestly they need to get rid of the Harbor Freight garbage engine. The YZ450F makes already 60 HP stock plus boost would probably put it in the 100 HP range all stock.
@leifhietala8074
@leifhietala8074 Год назад
@@Robert-qm7yi For the price of the "right CVT," it might be cheaper to just screw in a tranny from a busted Harley.
@TheUncleRuckus
@TheUncleRuckus Год назад
No damage on the firewall yet it's scratched to high hell 😂 My vote is to go for snowmobile CVT next, it's will definitely hold up to the RPM y'all are looking for to run through it, you'll get a better gear ratio and there's a huge aftermarket. 👍👍 No third Jack shaft 🤦
@TurboJohn74
@TurboJohn74 Год назад
This ^^
@BigMan7o0
@BigMan7o0 Год назад
Its not scratched at all, if you pause and look closely you can tell its all wet grass and stuff thats stuck to it
@dextervonwhiplash1755
@dextervonwhiplash1755 Год назад
Sure you can find used snowmobile parts online cheap and get them sent south. Check marketplace or Clist from Michigan or Wisconsin
@yeboidustin8725
@yeboidustin8725 Год назад
Yeah they definitely handle the rpm around 8k on the regular not sure why they even bothered trying to run this tc.
@jameswilson7641
@jameswilson7641 Год назад
You guys are getting crazier and crazier, keep having fun!
@kevinshuman9911
@kevinshuman9911 Год назад
CVT is definitely the best for that setup I’d say,the ability to hold constant power output vs using a shifter transmission,plus shifting gears would add time down the track,if it were me I’d try and CVT setup off a higher CC atv,you’d have the ability to upgrade if needed ,love the channel and creativeness that goes into the projects
@Sithhy
@Sithhy Год назад
I'm surprised you've stuck around with this particular CVT for so long seeing how it wasn't fit for purpose at all
@Ratkill9000
@Ratkill9000 Год назад
The actual Comet rating is like 18hp so I'm surprised it lasted this long. I've looked at the spec sheets, you can down load the PDF sheets still
@la_plata3588
@la_plata3588 Год назад
@@Ratkill9000 things a piece of 💩. I have one. only reason it works on there application is because they're sponsored by GPS
@villemil
@villemil Год назад
That was just stupid to even try the dragstrip with that CTV...
@Hitycooking
@Hitycooking Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JqzuJaeykW8.html
@dipstiksubaru3246
@dipstiksubaru3246 Год назад
@@villemil not only stupid but also reckless and ignorant. They're lucky this didn't happen sooner.
@jaredselig2812
@jaredselig2812 Год назад
CVTech makes a great cvt that’s typically used in snowmobiles. I’m part of an SAE baja team and we also use a custom CVT made my gaged engineering however I’m not sure what their max power and rpm specs are. CVTechs have like a 3:1 starting ratio and finish at like a .47:1 and gaged starts at 3.9:1 and finishes at .9:1. Hope this helps.
@auroraRealms
@auroraRealms Год назад
Yep, have to agree. Time for a snowmobile transmission, and a decent shatter guard.
@tonynorris7042
@tonynorris7042 9 месяцев назад
BUMMER ! GLAD HE DIDN'T GET HURT ! I like the Harley Transmission idea. Or something like that . That is One Tough Engine y'all have Built !
@shifty1927
@shifty1927 Год назад
This is awesome. I was looking up 670cc rotax engines. lol I run those engines in my 1985 honda odyssey. You guys are doing awesome work.
@83cjwest
@83cjwest Год назад
just a little advice for the next time something happens at the track. As soon as you can get pulled over as close to the wall as possible to avoid dumping oil in the Grove or right in the middle of the track. people will hate you less
@warhound7781
@warhound7781 Год назад
That that crew left chunks on the track the rest of the night is pretty sad.
@henrytaylor3049
@henrytaylor3049 Год назад
what I can't understand is this whole thing is, 1off. why not start with a Jr. dragster. or better yet run em 4 deep.
@ivyisle
@ivyisle Год назад
That's such a bummer man. I love this project and I enjoy this channel so much. Keep at it guys and I can't wait to see this drag rail full send it soon
@jstsayit9434
@jstsayit9434 Год назад
A complete rebuild would be very cool, and adding com’s while at the drag sounds like a good idea too just to check in on the driver
@Ithiel1981
@Ithiel1981 Год назад
So happy to see you guys running this master piece! Maybe adding an under pan will keep oil and parts safe. Also, drilling a bigger orifice on the return oil passage on the turbo will help oil get faster into the oil pan!
@804_Rider
@804_Rider Год назад
It was loads of fun meeting you guys at the dragstrip! Keep up the great builds!!
@AliceC993
@AliceC993 Год назад
I have been following this channel for several years and I'm generally a fan of what y'all do, but there are several mistakes being made with this build and the result is inevitable. Firewall, transmission, turbo, nitro, the transverse layout, the socks over the air filters... I would love to see this project succeed but you _need_ to rethink your strategy otherwise this could end very, very badly for someone.
@jackmagnium6115
@jackmagnium6115 Год назад
correct, its a nitro sidewinder drag rail. which is the worst drag rail u can ask for. im sure you know these things competed in the NHRA Top fuel class
@dylanzrim3635
@dylanzrim3635 Год назад
@@jackmagnium6115 with 6 extra cylinders
@AClayton172
@AClayton172 Год назад
Also starting the rail on the ground in the pits is dangerous considering it's belt driven. They need to slow down and think.
@donaldshimkus539
@donaldshimkus539 Год назад
Didn't have a tach on there. Yeah, and apparently a rev limiter either. Outstanding video! And I'm glad no one got injured.
@Dillon1791
@Dillon1791 Год назад
It was great being there. Unfortunate that it broke after just half a pass but thankfully it wasn't worse. Tracks can be cleaned up! While in staging and waiting for the track to go green again I didn't hear anyone complaining about the situation. Everyone was just chilling around their cars and checking each others out.
@OSXMan
@OSXMan Год назад
I just recently subbed. You've got to be safer, as I'm sure you've learned. That dent in the exhaust is terrifying. Glad Ike dodged that bullet.
@Hitycooking
@Hitycooking Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JqzuJaeykW8.html
@gapporama
@gapporama Год назад
There's a reason rear-engine dragsters came to be. Glad Isaac is A-OK.
@gapporama
@gapporama Год назад
@DAMNED SHARP KNIVES I alway think of Garlits at the Winternationals in '70 when I see a front engine rail.
@daleosborn3729
@daleosborn3729 Год назад
You guys are awesome 👌. I always look forward to seeing new videos from y'all
@RoerichMinebukkit
@RoerichMinebukkit 9 месяцев назад
I Love the Sound! Like a big dragster...
@bobmeyer6747
@bobmeyer6747 Год назад
Ike, when you have issues like this you need to get out of the groove as quick as you can and to the side to keep from oiling down the whole track. You also need to buy an alcohol carb for it.
@scottjohnson29
@scottjohnson29 Год назад
I’m sure he knows to get over to the side or out of the grove, he’s been around the drag strip lots. The way his helmet was sprayed with oil he probably couldn’t see.
@charleybetts1053
@charleybetts1053 Год назад
@@scottjohnson29 obviously not. He let it coast to a stop, and let it sit. Ruined the evening for alot of guys that actually have business on the track.
@isaacitllbefine7231
@isaacitllbefine7231 Год назад
I was standing on the brakes to try to get it to stop and i couldnt see. I think the brakes got oil on them so it took me forever to stop
@Cyberdeamon
@Cyberdeamon Год назад
You guys also need one of those switches (maybe one that you have to press while holding the steering wheel?) that you can easily get to that kills all ignition because that was running for a while with all that fuel going everywhere.
@donaldhalls2189
@donaldhalls2189 Год назад
Bad luck, you'll get it right, all the best to yous and your loved ones
@squirrelmaster4926
@squirrelmaster4926 Год назад
That is why the newer dragsters have the driver in front of the engine, with a shield separating the engine and driver. That could have been really really bad, glad the driver is ok.
@cupfabman
@cupfabman Год назад
Love all your innovation, starting to go fast enough to start thinking about a better roll cage!
@2earache
@2earache Год назад
That’s right! Not a terrific example but if you recall Formula 1 - also now 2 and 3 etc - created that Y shape which has proven to be a serious contender of safety for the driver. In this situation, a relevant-to-the-frame shape would certainly be advisable because that aside, Cars and Cameras wouldn’t be the same with any one of these boys out of the picture! Health and Safety first……PLEASE!!
@Lively_1185
@Lively_1185 Год назад
@@2earache Especially Ike, without him, the channel is ruined. Just like Jeremy Clarkson leaving Top Gear, and then later, the channel fell apart since then.
@destruxandexploze2552
@destruxandexploze2552 Год назад
“We’re gonna show exactly what happened” Bruh in the last episode, you said the torque converter was for like 16 or 18 hp. We all expected this.
@alternator7893
@alternator7893 Год назад
Dude I called it. A few videos ago I made a comment on how the torque converter was too flimsy for that power output and how they should switch to a more powerful one or they would have problems (lo and behold), I recommended a NORAM 50hp centrifugal clutch.
@mattcreek3671
@mattcreek3671 Год назад
Gotta love the arm chair quarterbacks in the comments right? You guys are smart enough to come up with something that will work. As long as you are driven by your desire to have fun your channel will still be cool. Thanks for the slow mo explosion bit, super cool!
@gregoryfletcher6198
@gregoryfletcher6198 Год назад
Whatever you do add a scatter shield around the setup. Glad to see no one got hurt.
@AndWhatISeeIsME
@AndWhatISeeIsME Год назад
Somebody get these boys a clutch assembly out of like a ZR-600, STAT!
@Ty-bz7zx
@Ty-bz7zx Год назад
Love the channel and content, but must say I think after "no surprise" "we knew we were Greatly exceeding its limits" and similar comments it was a bad idea to run on a public track for everyone else's sake. Glad no one was injured; best of luck on repairs and future runs, can't wait to watch!
@fernandop937
@fernandop937 Год назад
Wait you think these are public tracks? All tracks are private property and people who go to the track are aware of the risks. This was the perfect place for this thing to blow up at. The whole point of having a track is a place to race that’s safely set up for racing and potentially crashing or blowing up
@fernandop937
@fernandop937 Год назад
Disappointed at the amount of people who agreed with you enough to leave a like on your comment
@ionbusman2086
@ionbusman2086 Год назад
@@fernandop937 He ruined EVERYONE else’s fun at the strip that day. I’m sure the OP meant “closed” track. Meaning just him to blow parts everywhere and not annoy fellow racers with the 1 hour of cleanup
@derschwarzgeist
@derschwarzgeist Год назад
@@fernandop937 Gee, I can't imagine why people might criticize someone when they half-ass things frequently, _knowingly_ run parts way beyond their limits, and inconvenience other people as a result. If only people in the comments had been saying from the start of this that they should get a snowmobile unit that's actually rated for this kind of power...
@adamr9215
@adamr9215 Год назад
@@fernandop937 Tracks are private, but they are not there for you to blow stuff up and waste the time of others who also paid to be there. They took out something they knew wasn’t built for what they are throwing at it, and wasted other people’s time and money. I don’t bring a car to the track if I think it’s gonna blow up, I fix it first. Why waste other people’s time that they paid for?
@jameshuffman835
@jameshuffman835 Год назад
Y'all shouldn't feel bad! Test and tune! You're learning! Have fun!!
@brianramsey7048
@brianramsey7048 Год назад
It sounded like it was on the max rpm. Good luck guys love the videos.
@cade861
@cade861 Год назад
Time for drag rail 2.0 hang that one back up on the ceiling and start frame up incorporating everything you learned from the first one to make it even better
@petermerkin6428
@petermerkin6428 Год назад
Get a Baker Transmission and you can bang gears just like a harley. Eliminate the weak clutch’s
@MRR-qv3bw
@MRR-qv3bw Год назад
I never go to the track without the cooler packed with Gatorade/water just in case something like this happens so I'll have a nice cold peace offering! I've been lucky enough to not have to use it yet but I've been handed a couple Gatorades/waters and it always hits the spot. Awesome video man and don't sweat oiling down the lane because it happens and everyone is more concerned with you leaving in the same shape you arrived!👍👍👍
@woofer2121
@woofer2121 Год назад
Just got my Vote for turbo shirt and yall signed a piece of the belt for me. Thats very nice guys.
@InnocentMiscreant
@InnocentMiscreant Год назад
The 670 has survived the wreck on the mower which needs a revisit it survived the magnets in the flywheel seizing the engine and now a grenaded cvt pulley and 8,000 rpm like a cat it has 9 lives
@daleatkinson7273
@daleatkinson7273 Год назад
I cried reading the title and my heart dropped into my chest. Thank you guys for the content!
@airsoftgodfather
@airsoftgodfather Год назад
It's not that big of a deal bro 🤣
@shawnsatterlee6035
@shawnsatterlee6035 Год назад
Did you run to your safe place also and hug yourself? 🤣
@dickiwickster
@dickiwickster Год назад
Just got my shirt... love it .. thanks for the extras too...you guys are extra awesome now!!!😁
@tomsalzl6593
@tomsalzl6593 Год назад
Did a snowmobile clutch years ago from a 70’s Kawasaki that needed a taper shaft mount. Never touched the straight shaft out of the engine. Made the taper sleeve piece that did not have a key way for the fit piece. Kept taking small shavings off the turned shaft to find the right taper angle. Had a longer undersized though bolt inside the taper as an extra long sleeve mounted in the lathe chuck. I could undo the nut check the taper fitment with lapping compound. Once satisfied with shaft taper then re-chucked to do shaft bore with a thou to a couple thou undersized press fit. Did lots of measuring to figure out the cut off length for clutch and engine wall clearance good fit. Heated the taper sleeve, placed on shaft and left a blunt nose on taper mate end for another sleeve to hammer tap taper to engine shaft. Used many different lengths of bolts when finished mounting clutch to new tapered engine shaft. Also left a step collar on engine side for a pickle fork or 3 jaw puller in case I had to pull it off the shaft if I had to replace the engine. And yes it’s like 3 engines later on this flint stone backup high seat open floor full suspension kart. The Kawasaki clutch needed to be tweaked every time the engine changed for spring tension and dawg weights changed for engaging rpm speed, to also not over weight the cvt to find the engines power band of an even acceleration power curve. And not do the fling to high rpm and full clutch engagement and radical tire burn. I wanted the pleasure ride of a full suspension go karting off road crawler if need be driving machine. Just add or remove material till you find you sweet spot. Yeup I bought a couple of belts for the figuring of the right sized parts for my ride. I even had to re drill the low end spring engagement side cause snow machine were like plus 3000 rpm and I was running stock Briggs at first. And then I figured out the dawgs issues... blank slate learning. Oh read up on old sled torque/hp specs and took a guess on the engagement side as I knew most clutch designs as the kid mechanic that I was.. I simply made it work. That frase going back to the drawing board was really a good part of the journey. Lathe and milling machine often are required parts for this type of play... enjoy the go
@erikcourtney1834
@erikcourtney1834 Год назад
I’m curious as to why was that converter still on the rail? It has at minimal double the power going threw it. That’s just asking for a catastrophe. Luckily that’s all that happened and nobody got hurt. We all want to see this thing done up right. Air/fuel problem and a proper cvt. Not an “it’ll be fine” cvt cuz it won’t. 🤦‍♂️
@feverdream2661
@feverdream2661 Год назад
Perfectly said. The engine is right infront of them. Thats not exactly a calculated risk they should have taken.
@Hellsong89
@Hellsong89 Год назад
@@feverdream2661 More like calculated revenue from little drama.... fucking hate that shit. "hey guys we put this 60hp engine with high speed rotating mass of variator that is only rated 30hp, it will be fine... ou it blew up *keeps milking this*, how ever that could have happened!?"
@upyourgrass4222
@upyourgrass4222 Год назад
One thing you guys don't have to remove your primary clutch to put a new belt on. You just have to put belt on primary clutch and then push in your secondary clutch and slide the on. If you race snowmobiles you change the belt every race so you have a cold new belt for best performance 👌
@upyourgrass4222
@upyourgrass4222 Год назад
You need to put a Comet clutch on it.When I raced snowmobiles I ran 180 hp over 100mph in 60p feet.
@adrianvanderzandt4310
@adrianvanderzandt4310 Год назад
I love it when John breaks out that Carolina twang!
@bbolck27
@bbolck27 Год назад
That thing is bad ass guys can't wait to see up grades and it make an impressive run down the track
@loganhawkinstv.426
@loganhawkinstv.426 Год назад
I think a Harley transmission is the way to go. They'll hold up to the hp and torque and when the engine nears its redline, just shift it. Also I'd recommend a tachometer.
@dylanzrim3635
@dylanzrim3635 Год назад
The redesign wouldn’t be that bad surely
@mesanders1113
@mesanders1113 Год назад
I've been saying that since the beginning. They are loosing to much power through the torque converter setup. Then they can rev it dump clutch and go
@loganhawkinstv.426
@loganhawkinstv.426 Год назад
@@mesanders1113 I have too but I feel like they have to run cvt with their gopowersports sponsorship fr. Back in 2018 when they first ran it I knew the engine wasn't in its powerband, but now that is in its powerband, it blew the cvt up and almost seriously hurt Ike. They need gears STAT
@presleyfleckmotorizedbikef4285
Sorry about the dragster and I'm most glad that nobody got hurt I love your drag kart it's awesome
@kidsalex13
@kidsalex13 Год назад
Man that sucks to have a failure like that, I just took my home made turbo 125cc dirtbike out last weekend, makes me glad I have a clutch and and transmission and a torque converter. Also super cool to see my name on the firewall!
@srxmod700
@srxmod700 Год назад
Grinding on the clutches.....great idea
@snappybonesify
@snappybonesify Год назад
Can't say I couldn't see this happening lol. Next time try to side track the rail to minimize oiling the track
@Mulletmans
@Mulletmans Год назад
Yeah you should immediately pull to the side off the prepped part of the track fast as u can even if you don't no your leaking anything stop someone will pull up and let you no. The track workers get pissed when people do this.
@henrytaylor3049
@henrytaylor3049 Год назад
these guys a few years ago were just like 11yo me and the neighbor kid. if necessity is the father of invention. we got to learn the hard way about things like throttle return springs and kill switches... and now blast shields. love watching these guys.
@BRUH-mk2vr
@BRUH-mk2vr Год назад
love the videos, I hope you keep going to get the next generation into engines🙏👏
@thebauerman2119
@thebauerman2119 Год назад
Great video guys, can't believe the torque converter blew up like that!! Next project idea- vertical engine go kart or trike, use a rear end of lawn mower
@kurthammack9867
@kurthammack9867 Год назад
It makes sweet music love the v twin sound
@208Concepts
@208Concepts Год назад
Might be time to consider a scatter shield for the torque converter as well 😁
@lsucody3687
@lsucody3687 Год назад
It’s time you put a Streetbike/Harley/snow mobile engine in it and turbo that!
@charleybetts1053
@charleybetts1053 Год назад
Terrible idea. They are NOWHERE near ready for that.
@deronborghi5929
@deronborghi5929 Год назад
Nice work guys .. that's a sweet setup. Now, a little friendly advice .. rule 1. If you still have vision and control, GET TO THE WALL .. so you're only oiling down the side and not the groove.. It's good to see that it wasn't any worse than that. I hope you lay down some impressive times with it, good luck. That is all, carry on LOL
@Jimsalos
@Jimsalos Год назад
Excellent camera footage, glad no was was hurt
@darrellkelly7614
@darrellkelly7614 Год назад
Another great video. It was sad but so much was learned. Mr C has a heart full of concern for Ike. I too was worried he would catch some metal.
@spyder7758
@spyder7758 Год назад
Man, it almost wasn't fine, might be time for a steel cvt cover/ guard and a perforated fire wall doesn't stop fire, if that fuel or oil had ignited Ike would not have been safe
@patchouli3422
@patchouli3422 Год назад
Ike is so lucky it wasn't anywhere near as bad as it could've been. Can't wait to see the rail back on a strip.
@Steven_McCrae
@Steven_McCrae Год назад
This could have been so much worse guys , I’m glad you’re safe though but please don’t skip safety 😕🙏🏽 Take care 😉✊🏽
@jeremiahjorenby2275
@jeremiahjorenby2275 Год назад
In FSAE the torque converter is required to be covered with a steel shield for this very reason. Would recommend TC scatter shields in the future. Also have a look at Microsquirt EFI. It would be so much better for controlling this setup. Would suggest using Gates Barricade fuel hose, a Walbro GSL393 fuel pump, and an aeromotive regulator with 4an fittings. Use LS ignition coils for spark, 550cc denso injectors for fuel. Use a crank trigger mounted between the drive pulley and the block and run wasted spark. From there you need a 30-40mm throttle body mounted after the turbo with TPS, a 3 bar map sensor, and an intake air temp sensor. A proper plenum will improve cylinder to cylinder distribution of air. For a 670cc engine a plenum with a volume of 1 gallon should be about right. Executed right that list of parts should get you to 100hp or more. Many FSAE teams achieve 70-90hp with similar parts on motorcycle engines breathing through an 18mm restrictor.
@mattgraham1983
@mattgraham1983 Год назад
We all knew I was risky with that tourq converter, you guys weren't sure it would hold up to the dyno session... glad nothing really major broke and Ike wasn't injured 🙃 I think gears might be the only way forward depending how much you want to push the motor...
@Hitycooking
@Hitycooking Год назад
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@GuysPlayingWithTools
@GuysPlayingWithTools Год назад
I end up with a lot of assorted spare parts in my world, channels like this one give me ideas of how to use them 🙂
@bradoncookie6330
@bradoncookie6330 Год назад
You guys so need to get a transmission, that would be wicked seeing that thing banging gear down the strip. Other than that I love your guys content
@Studio51media
@Studio51media Год назад
Geez that thing was spraying nitro methanol everywhere I was almost certain it was going to ignite…. Guys that was WAY closer to a disaster than I think you’re willing to admit So glad no one was hurt!
@michaeloverby4378
@michaeloverby4378 Год назад
When going from gas to methanol or nitro you must increase the size of the orifice tube directly under the jet as well as the jet to run right. The other fuels like a little more timing too. You may already have this information, just checking. I like your videos, keep them coming.
@hobonickel840
@hobonickel840 Год назад
The Bobcat Goldthwait "I'm sorry I'm so sorry" was priceless ..too funny
@IronRox
@IronRox Год назад
The transmission would be amazing!!!
@TrulyUnfortunate
@TrulyUnfortunate Год назад
Dude...you're supposed to pull to the side of the strip so you keep the majority of the liquids off the center of the track. The second it blew you should have done that.
@charleybetts1053
@charleybetts1053 Год назад
Exactly. I love this channel, but they're playing a bit out of their league right now.
@_JamesBrown
@_JamesBrown Год назад
This is like Cooper who used to work with Cleetus. Big oil down guy
@nunrleft
@nunrleft Год назад
You're CVT was wobbling at 4:46. It was damaged before sending it down the track.
@shanehathaway2791
@shanehathaway2791 Год назад
I’m just happy no one got hurt in that show that was bad ass and that’s how you do it…. I’m glade you have the people doing that damnit the way you all do shit is so bad ass keep it up … I’m getting a new cvt today… I hope we learn from this and move on with bigger and better parts you guys are the baddest there is I’m glade you didn’t blow the engine WOW nice job and Ike don’t be sorry shit happens you did a great job keeping that Monster on the track…. It could happen to anyone of you…. I can’t now but willing to help…. WOW nice… now rebuild and go again…. Love ya all and be careful… it could have fired up on ya…. I’m very impressed let’s do it again boys…..
@robertkitchell859
@robertkitchell859 Год назад
Sounded lean as well, should definitely do a tuning session under a load after switching to nitro and methanol mix, also like they said, use a fire suit rated for what you are doing, no one wants to see you guys fried crispy, sick build, hope you guys meet your time goals safely in the near future!
@johncholmes643
@johncholmes643 Год назад
Drag racing etiquette, always pull to the side of the track when you blow up!!
@dylanzrim3635
@dylanzrim3635 Год назад
More people need to see this one
@adamr9215
@adamr9215 Год назад
Not always. It’s a small vehicle that fits between the grooves, and was leaking between them, not over them. It’s easier and faster to clean up oil from the very middle of the track than from the tracks of rubber the cars leave. If he pulled to the side, he would have leaked oil across the groove, and that would require a lot more work to fix. Plus, did you see his goggles? They were covered in oil. He probably couldn’t see well enough to do more than just try to stop without hitting anything.
@bowtie0069
@bowtie0069 Год назад
The main thing that would concern me about the methanol/nitro blend is how it's nearly invisible when you are on fire...I was tuning my minibike, and couldn't figure out why I was so hot, until I saw flames going down the gutter from the flow of fuel pouring into the street!
@henrytaylor3049
@henrytaylor3049 Год назад
back in the day, invisible fire was more common. I saw a bunch of safety guys, pulling drivers out from wrecked race cars, catch their shoes on fire.
@MustangKevin69
@MustangKevin69 Год назад
You know what? It's okay guy's that's why they call it testing!!! It happends that thing was ripped in power, only time to rebuild even better 😆 loved the camera's glade that ur good brotha and nice test wonder what the time was
@mikehaberski4596
@mikehaberski4596 Год назад
You guys have nothing to apolagize for its all part of the game i was just glad to hear the engine still running after lol great project deff sled clutch setup can handle double what your making for power so u will have some wiggle room lol good luck
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