Tyra INSULTED By Model Over THIS Photoshoot 

Exactly! How Yaya was treated, it still makes me upset.

@@Jalil-wx7rh me too!

You mean like how the trends accused of being racial appropriation move through different cultural and racial influences over time, and yet Tyra can only compute what is highly fashionable; not what is moral, equal, diversely individual and truly beautiful in a natural form.

She flip-flopped on everything. The girls could never do right in her eyes.

To the show's producers, being POC is only okay when it's marketable.

Me too

Same!!

Like Victoria in Cycle 9!

Amen!!

OMG you are so funny!

To be fair, arrogance isn't confidence. Arrogance stems from insecurity.

@@Fishnetfreud right but even when the girls have a reasonable level of confidence and like themselves like any person should, the judges call it arrogance and ruin their self esteem

Facts

Gosh i kno jst sad

@@Fishnetfreud but in that situation, the model was confident, not arrogant.

Bahahahhahah I can only image....

Girl! 😂😂😂😂💀

@River McAndrew way to miss a point on purpose.

🤣🤣🤣 omg you're on point!

Agreed…Lol.. when I saw his name I automatically thought “Batman”…..

Got to say, it didn't take long before Eric Nicholson's magazine (Jane) ceased operations

Where's the masculinity tho'?

He’s the most feminine person in that room tho, soooo

more like toxic obnoxiousness

@@menshealth-mag2088 The masculinity stems from wanting to dominate and exert control over a woman who is standing up for herself. 💖

I feel they told her to leave because Tyra didn’t like her comments during the shoot which were accurate

Yep the first one to give a girl a breakdown gets a promotion 🙄

Janice has even said recently that she doesn't regret anything she said on the show. She said something like it was all part of the role she was playing. So basically, they're damaging young womens' confidence for views. Am I surprised though? Not at all. Edit: I looked up the article and this is a quote from it: Former supermodel and judge on "America’s Next Top Model" Janice Dickinson said last week that she doesn’t regret any of the controversial comments she made during her run on the reality show, including remarks that were seen as fat-shaming and ageist. "It was acting. And that’s that," Dickinson told a fan who asked the question on social media. "People forget that TV is acting," she added in the caption to her Instagram video.

That’s how brutal the Industry WAS AND IS! They were like Beaty boot camp!!😂

This was when reality shows were still new and all the rage. We didn't realize how bsd things got until much later.

I think they were preparing them and helping to thicken their skin for the industry, however all ppl need to have more decency including the judges. We all know they are not nice😔

made even more disgusting because of how young a lot of these women are.

@@scarletwinter9311 for real, some of them are basically teenagers.

@@teapotlizard you cease to be a teenager once you turn 18 and become a legal adult. Kinda shocking how difficult this concept is for so many people to understand

@@lieselotmauroo9808 eightTEEN and nineTEEN you're not out of your teens until you turn 20

@@lieselotmauroo9808 literally still a teenager at eighteen and nineteen. Kinda shocking how difficult this concept is for you to understand.

There was no winning with these people

I really didnt like how they treated her in the episode about Yoanna's potential eating disorder. We get ita a modelling competition, but if Yoanna actually was bulimic, Camille was actually responsible by saying "yeah, actually Yoanna does tend ro go to the bathroom after meals" becauseit could have been a red flag. Yoanna didnt have an eating disorder, but was actually cheating by slipping away and calling home.

I actually really liked Camille and I agree.

Girl do you watch every channel that i do ? i can't stop finding everywhere.

Yes that generation had more resilience

@@d1am0nds funny way to say trauma

It’s crazy how was this acceptable 😭

@@d1am0nds Exactly. What's happening in ANTM is not that serious. It's reality TV, not Dr. Phil. Grow some, please.

Its brain surgery levels of explanation! They must think brain surgery is very simple or they thought her explanation was too confusing because they were an idiot haha.

Yeah, no idea what she and/or her stylist was thinking with that mess of an outfit.

All the judges had questionable outfits like what was the hairstyle of that guest judge blond lady?

I do think some of them tried to emulate the judge's style choices! But they wanted them all to have a dior / chanel look lol

SERIOUSLY!!!!!

@@sarahm5936 then why didnt they say so?

I didn't like her either - same reasons. Now I'm shocked by how little she actually did wrong and how hard they had to work to make her the bad guy. She is absolutely stunning, and so charismatic it's ridiculous.

Are you kidding? She was a total bully to the other girls!

They both were really young and in a stressful situation. Editing always gave Yoanna the benefit of the doubt even when she was in the wrong. But, Camille was also in the wrong on multiple occasions, which is why the girls from her season say that she was very difficult to live with.

I mean in the first half of the season she wasn't horrible, but then Camille literally insinuated that Yoanna had an ED to Tyra. Did y'all really forget that?

This 💯

They’re literally so manipulative ☹️

Can't agree with that 😛 she was always manipulative and rude.. to put it mildly. As in from the start, not all the time. I just feel the niceness was very conditional.

I agree with both, but it’s probably better when she isn’t building them up because it’s makes the tear down so much worse when you think she might actually like you.

So true!

Have you seen her now, she certainly did add to her waistline.

Once you turn more rehearsed and corporate you lose your interest in other human beings and just approach them for benefits or profit.

@River McAndrew you have a weird definition of classy and professional considering it’s a show for amateur models who are pitted against eachother.

@@seattlecryptid simping for sure. And I do like the girls, they’re cool! I just never would’ve tolerated that from a photographer (since there are no judges) when I modeled forever ago, or even a goldfish lmao

@@Dizzydollie7 Absolutely! it's fan behaviour. the women were awesome at handling themselves.

@River McAndrew it'd be more accurate to say that the panels were at the end of a 16 hour work day for the girls and they were to tired to think properly let a lone fight. They are also punished anytime they attempt to stand up for themselves.

@River McAndrew for a panel maybe. several contestants of the show have stated they would work 13-16 hours a day and are rarely given time for food and water. the point being that the will to fight the judges is forced out of the girls somehow. Also important: being at the house is still work. they are still being filmed they have to make extra effort to not be on camera for even a minute. the contestants of this show are always overworked underfed and gaslit into thinking it's a proper work environment

But then they black face her. If she was white we would understand why she wouldn't want to do that but because she is of colour, making her participate in that seems to be ok. Going darker naturally in the sun is one thing but to paint your skin black to look like a black woman isn't the same. I'm brown and love getting a tan but to impersonate a darker black woman by painting my face black would make me uncomfortable.

@@SHMZ-B that's what I was wondering, I'm white. So I don't want to speak for the community, but my first thought when they painted her face was..... isn't that inappropriate? Did they cut it to make it look like she was just bitching when in reality she considered it blackface? Knowing this show it wouldn't surprise me

@@tararaw8518 I'm black and it's definitely inappropriate. I don't think it's colorist to not want to be darker, she's likes how she is.

@@Milk-mq6gl exactly plus if she had some internalized colorism , can we really blame her ? the beauty standard has never been in favor of darker skinned Black women . Black girls are taught that they should NEVER want to be darker .

Always shocking the excuses people will conjure up to excuse colorism. Let's just excuse all racism, sexism, etc since people were taught it and we can't blame them. It was inappropriate and wrong - but that's not what she cared about at all, and in this time period I don't think she'd have even thought of that. Her complaint was she "doesn't look like her" and that Grace Jones was "15000 shades darker"

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The photographer and tyra were both good on set today which is a rarity.

Right!

😂

Most of the winners u never saw them again

I think I’ve read that the modeling industry doesn’t respect the show at all so it probably didn’t do much. Idk where any of the winners ended up tbh

I dont think the photos were even usable sometimes because of the extremeness of the photos.

@@calisha1889 yea a couple of the models who didn’t win actually did better in Asia. I remember Karl Lagerfeld straight up dissing the show once lol

I love that part She's really funny

It didn’t they saw Xiomara’s features and matched them to graces

They could have done Tina Turner and it would have gone better.

Don't understand. The most beautiful woman I have ever seen was black. She was from Ethiopica. Stunning!!

The fact that Tyra gave the contestants good direction this time shows she can, in fact, direct and coach models...which means the times she doesn't are intentional...

Weirdly enough, the challenge was to accessorise the little black dress. If the judges wanted to see versatility, why are they like: take that accessory off, it doesn't work. Use our personal style instead. 🤦🏻‍♂️ Canada Next Top Model did that challenge as well, but, the judges loved the versatility

Facts!!! The only one who really did Grace justice on this show was Krista. And even then, it was just her energy.

Grace has so much presence, she exudes that rare powerful aura that others just can’t simply reproduce by trying

I was shocked that she had never heard of, let alone studied Andrew Eccles' 33yrs enormous & many times awarded body of work. He is absolutely huge.

Yeah Blonde was the most disgusting film I've seen in years. They deliberately made it confusingly similar to life to market it as a biopic. That woman they portrayed was some Torture p*rn perpetual victim very far removed from the real life Marilyn. so repulsive

To be honest the movie never clearly states this and a lot of people have gone away from it thinking that literally was Marilyn's life

Did the movie even put at the start that it’s based off the book which is a fictional book? the only issue I have is that they don’t make it clear it’s fiction.

Pretty sure the director didn't even watch Marilyn's movies and just winged it... I can't be certain though.

They could've kept Grace Jones, just not made her darker to look more similar, I think Grace has such a strong energy that embodying that along with the outfit would have been enough to be able to tell who she was.

she could've just had the styling of Grace Jones without her complexion changing.

Black face not matter on who is always going to be beyond out of f'n order

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Hmmmm... Just a thought..But when All forms of Media (TV, Movies, and Magazines) lighten the skin of Black Models or Entertainers it's not an issue or concern to no one... hell look at any medium brown skin tone Black Female Entertainer that is featured in a magazine... they are always 5 shades lighter, often looking Light skin. Is that inappropriate or it's just hypocritically different?... just a thought from a random Black person 🤷🏽‍♂️

And the next cycle they chose Eva to win - but she's 5'7" too! I think they were truly unfair to Jenascia.

Pretty sure they must have known her height when they cast her for the show in the first place tho…why hire someone and then, after the fact, discriminate based on their height?

Oh, I thought they were talking about her breasts. Because she said before the shoot that she didn't have Salma's figure.

That's so true. And what I couldn't understand is why they took short girls (like Jenascia or Noelle from cycle 4) or plus size girls (like Toccara or some other ladies from different seasons) and then constantly pointed on their height/weight. Looks like the judges and producers knew from the beginning that those girls never gonna win and they used them for drama only.

@River McAndrew Maybe, but, if she's too short to be a successful model anyway ... why choosing her for the competition ? Did they really think a few weeks of bullying are gonna make her taller ?

​@River McAndrew You're right, no need to answer such a huge pile of non sense. But thank you for the laughs. Get down of your high horse, baby, and chill a bit. You'll live longer.

​@River McAndrew why do I have a feeling you could make the judges on ANTM look like Hulk Hogan and Brock Lesnar after the bar closes

​@River McAndrew *because .

I wish Naomi Campbell was the judge I feel she'll do it with Grace. As for Tyra I don't understand her Sense of judgment.

So true about Heidi on project runway

​@River McAndrew huh

Absolutely agree

She was also probably upset cuz Grace Jones is very dark and most black girls (especially at that time) did not wanna be compared to someone that dark. If they gave her beyonce or rihanna she would have been happy.

@River McAndrew Cuban isn’t a race but a nationality. Cubans can be a variety of races and ethnicities.

@River McAndrew you can be Latina and also be black, white, native or Asian. Latina isn’t a race . Spanish isn’t a race. Spanish is a nationality. But she isn’t Spanish because she isn’t from Spain. She is Cuban which is a nationality not a race or ethnicity.

What race? The homo sapiens? Honestly, the US is so fucked up in the head about eugenic-talk it's a lost cause.

I agree!! That's how I took it as well (and then the other model saying Grace Jones scares her????) They didn't even necessarily have to darken her skin. In terms of posing and fashion, Grace Jones was probably one of the easiest ones for a model to have so to complain because Grace Jones is 20000 shades darker than her or whatever she said is very off color.

Yeah, I felt a bit taken aback by her comments. I do think she didn't want to be androgynous and dark, which Grace was. But she's a queen so I was a bit... ???

yea i was definitely bothered. it wasn’t the fact that she didn’t know who grace jones was, but the fact that she didn’t want to be darker

Right like come on now. I thought this was ANTM, not a Vaudeville minstrelsy show

🤣🤣🤣 I always wondered why noone tried that!

Love that😹😹😹 that would work

@River McAndrew Hence, Where I stated by modeling guidelines that 5’7” was short, but not in general.

@River McAndrew also, I am aware of these things. 2 of my uncles were underwear models in their twenties, another one of my other uncles lives in LA and is a former print model and an actor that mainly is in LGBTQ shows/movies. Also, my fiancé was approached several times to be a male runway model as a teenager, but he always turned it down due to his self-esteem issues. He is 6’3.5” I unfortunately inherited my height from my little Sicilian grandpa. I’m 5’3.5”, but look taller since I have longer arms and legs and a short torso. I just love the diversity that is happening now with all body types. Lily Rose Depp is a runway and print model at 5’3”, Devin Aoki 5’5”, Amina Blue 5’1”, Georgia May Jagger 5’7”, Iskra Lawrence plus-size, Ali Tate-Cutler plus-size , Thando Hapo South African albino It’s beautiful to see diversity in the fashion industry. Also, my point about calling the women chunky when they weren’t. Tyra didn’t have any room for such comments as she is curvy herself and was no where near her leanest size.

@River McAndrew H O N E Y the average may be 5'9" but there are plenty of super models shorter than that, like KATE MOSS. ffs.

​@@briannamaniac exactly!!!!!!

And the modeling world promoting 350 pound models as healthy is so much better now? They didn't get better at all. They just got woke.

Yea I was going to say the same because Grace Jones is an entire vibe that if you channel that … that’d work great … no need to airbrush to her skinny tone even though her skin is so beautiful and iconic

It reminds me of when they've done those bad ones that have the girls represent different ethnicities, they expected them to just know how to represent them without really giving them any information.

I mean honestly how into fashion and the business can she be if she doesn't even know who vera Wang is?!

@@grantmegan91 Hmm, Google maybe? lol. But what’s the point of dressing up, and portraying her? Tell me how does that go into a modeling portfolio?

She was telling herself at the same time, but she couldn't change. She was sick of being disappointed at herself, that's why she lashed out at Tiffany. It all connects. Joking.

I feel the same I think It would be pretty fun

No so many use fake sun tan

​@@d1am0nds there's a fine line and it's pretty obvious. If it's not clearly orange, it's going to be offensive to most (but technically not all) people of color, and most white people younger than 70 as well. The POC who aren't offended have every right to have a different take on it. But the yts who think brown is the new orange need to do some serious soul-searching to say the very least.

@@pumpkinmuffindollies i mean, white people who actually tan in the sun dont go orange.... they go browner.......

Yeah, I didn't like her attitude. Idk if Tyra was all that offended - it makes good content, after all - but maybe I am biased because to me Grace Jones is a goat.

I wouldn't. I love my skin color.

It's possible she could have had abortions, but I don't think there's any evidence of that. She was certainly passed around like a piece of meat by the studio executives in Hollywood, it was pretty awful for her.

@River McAndrew you know for some who likes screaming at people to “get over it,” you sure do sound overly aggressive over someone just stating their opinion about a movie. Maybe YOU should get over the fact that other people will have an opinion that is different from your own.

@River McAndrew Are you from the future? Because Marilyn did certainly not die a century ago. Are you Kim's family member? No? Then get over people being mad at her for ruining an iconic dress.

​@River McAndrew loool why are you crying like that .

Marilyn had miscarriages and desperately wanted to be a mom

So tyra was upset because she thought xio insulted grace. So how the hell is tyra wrong for that??? Y'all have zero brains of your own. No rational thinking skills. And think everyone is trying to insult dark skin. So insecure

I agree with that. She didn't always have bad intentions, not by a long shot. It's sad how - I feel - she lost what she really did initially want to achieve.

I think she genuinely wanted to bring in different and more ethnic looks to the modelling world. That the show ended up to be more a reality than a modelling show I'm not sure she could affect that that much, she had to bring something that's interesting on tv.

Ok. That doesn't mean she wanted to look like her.

@@missvida6251 but it’s the way she said it. don’t disrespect someone because grace is a beauty icon.