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Umarex HDR50, Short Barrel VS Long Barrel 

Rune Rebel
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In this video I test the differnt energy the HDR50 gives with short barrel compared with long barrel. Check out www.homedefence-24.com for barrels, Powerkits and more

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@kiddkoolarrow7904
@kiddkoolarrow7904 8 месяцев назад
Muchisimas gracias Senor! It has been a few years that I have missed your reviews outside on the deck. I have returned to the plinking and "chase" with the UMAREX 11 JOULE TR50 and have just purchased the extension barrel.Thank you for all the valuable information that you have given us. Sending blessings your way Sir.
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 8 месяцев назад
Thank you my friend. Iam very glad you like my videos 😃
@dougwalker2113
@dougwalker2113 2 года назад
Love your videos man. I always look forward to watching. Very helpful as well .
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Thank you Doug. Iam very glad you like my videos :)
@djjiang3718
@djjiang3718 Год назад
Thank you Rune for such great video and sharing!
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 Год назад
Thank you my friend. Iam very glad you like the video 😃
@jeffsmith50001
@jeffsmith50001 2 года назад
Hi Rune, just got some ball-bearings. A little light sanding to the HDR50 magazine holes and WOW !!, good ammo. I dont have the HD-24 long barrel but my God, I bet it would be very good. Happy New Year mate.
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Happy new year mate. Thanks for the info 😃👍
@mauihowey
@mauihowey 3 года назад
Hi Rune, nice comparison and I enjoyed your video😀
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 3 года назад
Thank you my friend. Iam very glad you like my videos :)
@martinheppenstall6860
@martinheppenstall6860 2 года назад
Hi Rune Great videos, I have got the upgrade kit for my 11joule hdr 50, off home defence 24, just wondering is the extension barrel a home defence 24 version also as I’m struggling to get one of these as there website is saying it is unavailable Regards Martin
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
@@martinheppenstall6860 Thank you martin. Yes the barrel is from www.homedefence-24.com I have been told the barrels and other part will arrive to the shop sometime next week. Regards Rune
@martinheppenstall6860
@martinheppenstall6860 2 года назад
@@runerebel8441 thanks
@richardlynch5632
@richardlynch5632 3 года назад
Thanks again for your diligence in collection of much appreciated data. Seems to me that a noise suppression system could be incorporated into the extension barrel. However, this might mean a loss of power? Perhaps not? 😎👍❤🖖
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 3 года назад
Thanks my friend. A silencer/moderator might be a good thing. But loosing the extra barrel lenght will slow down the velocity. However it would be worth it :)
@drums911
@drums911 Год назад
Very impressive! And I believe that was all on same CO2 cartridge. I imagine a fresh one on the longer barrel would have made an even more dramatic difference.
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 Год назад
Thank you. Yes it was :)
@anthonyshepard9606
@anthonyshepard9606 10 месяцев назад
: I was thinking the same thing : 🐢 😲 🐢 😀 🐢 👍
@anthonyshepard9606
@anthonyshepard9606 10 месяцев назад
: I was thinking the same thing : 🐢 😲 🐢 😀 🐢 👍
@anthonyshepard9606
@anthonyshepard9606 10 месяцев назад
: OUTSTANDING info information :
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 10 месяцев назад
Thank you my friend 😃
@rensio8
@rensio8 3 года назад
Hey Thanks so much for the test video Rune! I was hoping I could save some money on getting only the internal barrel upgrade…….but this does show that the longer barrel really makes a big enough difference. Thanks so much! I do have another question, I remember you made a video where the revolver had an issue of “farting” or leaking some gas, why was this and how can it be prevented or fixed? Thanks
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 3 года назад
Thanks. Iam glad you like the video. The farting is because of the pressure in the valve is to hi. At least thats my guess. It happend to me when shooting without the CO2 block in the CO2 tube. Cheers :)
@valentingheorghiu1300
@valentingheorghiu1300 2 года назад
thanks! very useful!
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Thanks. Iam glad you like the video
@coldstne1
@coldstne1 9 месяцев назад
Very helpful!! Cheers!
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 9 месяцев назад
Thanks. Glad you like the video. Cheers
@anthonyschofield7807
@anthonyschofield7807 2 года назад
I really enjoy your videos so many thanks for posting them,could I ask what model is the chronograph that you use?
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Thank you Anthony. I use the X-Radar chrony. You can buy it from most paintball shops.
@salvatorebeneventi6339
@salvatorebeneventi6339 2 года назад
Grazie...mi è servito molto. Un abbraccio 🤗 fa Cagliari
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Thanks my friend :)
@joebotz1243
@joebotz1243 2 года назад
Incredible
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Thanks
@gustomaina68
@gustomaina68 2 года назад
Hello! Very useful information. Thanks! Do you know how many joules the energy is in the powerkit, without tuning barrel, in version 11J?
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Hi. With the Powerkit installed in either versions you will get ca 20+joule, but it depends on the ammo weight and temperature. Using a 5 gram slug should give you ca 20 joule +/-
@gustomaina68
@gustomaina68 2 года назад
@@runerebel8441 , Thanks a lot!
@trevligodmjuk2721
@trevligodmjuk2721 11 месяцев назад
I will test 14inch barrel with my kit, hope for more power..all restrictor away 😎 First 12g co2. 88g next step.
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 11 месяцев назад
Good luck 😎
@jimbopsvidz
@jimbopsvidz 2 года назад
Thanks for your videos. What brand Chrono are you using? I'd like to get one.
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Thanks. Iam glad you like my videos. I use the X-Radar chrony sold in most paintball shops :)
@brucekendall52
@brucekendall52 2 года назад
Hi Rune,thks for the video.Question:Do you use the silokone spray every time you insert a new CO2 cyclinder?
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Hi Bruce. Iam glad you like the video. Yes I use silikonespray every time I put in a new CO2 canister. It helps the seals and I guess it also rise the velocity some.
@brucekendall52
@brucekendall52 2 года назад
@@runerebel8441 Thks
@TheEinart
@TheEinart 2 года назад
Hei Rune, artige videoer du har :) venter selv på denne i posten nå, bestilt med din rabattkode. Jeg lurte i grunn på om den stål barrelen er å få kjøpt løst for å få litt mer Joules på standard 11J HDR? Takker.
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Hei Einar. Mange takk. Hyggelig at du liker videoene mine. Både Powerkit50 og løp er å få kjøpt hos www.homedefence-24.com Siden du har 11 joule utgaven så holder det å fjerne ventil-blokka. Det lange løpet gir deg max energi sammen med tunge slugs/kuler. Det er en artig paintball revolver. Tror du vil bli svært fornøyd med den 😃
@lewislichtenberg9795
@lewislichtenberg9795 8 месяцев назад
Hi, love your videos. What increase will the barrel extension give to the 7.5 joules HDR without the power kit?
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 8 месяцев назад
Thanks my friend. It will give ca 5 joules more power
@AS-qm4tp
@AS-qm4tp Месяц назад
Hello Rune, hope to find you well. Is it worh to replace the barrel for the tunning barrel available in homedefense? Without extension on.
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 Месяц назад
Hello and thanks my friend. If you dont use the barrel extention then I dont think its worth it. Its the long barrel that gives more power, so without the extention the velocity will be about the same as the stock barrel.
@Rocky-zs9ye
@Rocky-zs9ye 2 года назад
am very happy that it has a lot of power, I notice that it sends quite strong, my revolver has a 20 Joules valve, plus the power provided by the two-part steel barrel, 17 centimeters long, apart I have firearms 24 joule pcp air, happy shooting equally dear friend 😉💪😁👌.
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Yes then you have a very powerful revolver. Happy shooting my friend 😃
@Rocky-zs9ye
@Rocky-zs9ye 2 года назад
@@runerebel8441 😉🤝🍺🍻
@deebill7325
@deebill7325 Год назад
Sir... where can I purchase the long barrel
@Rocky-zs9ye
@Rocky-zs9ye 6 месяцев назад
​@@deebill7325Yo lo compré en Amazon
@iyeetsecurity922
@iyeetsecurity922 2 года назад
I would _love_ to see a comically long *1'* barrel on this lil' kicker.
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Yes. Me to 😄
@madedigital
@madedigital 2 года назад
I designed some slugs and got them printed...I feel the 3d printed are better if pointed and hard pla...lighter or at steel balls
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Sounds great. To bad my PC skills are non-existent, or I try to make some to...
@dope5946
@dope5946 Год назад
I was running just the internal but those numbers got me back to long barrel
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 Год назад
With a long barrel you get 10 joule more power, if not more.
@LaSnapable
@LaSnapable 2 года назад
Hi Rune! From Home defence 24 its 5 options you can chose from when buying the long barrel. Witch one should I pick? Its all in german so hard to understand.. thanks!
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Hi my friend. For your cal 50 HDR you must have this en.homedefence-24.com/in-fr/Collections/run-hdr50/Products/tuning-barrel-tuning-barrel-t4e-hdr-50-steel-with-thread-2-attachments?variant=31994853851254 They have english also :)
@LaSnapable
@LaSnapable 2 года назад
@@runerebel8441 many thanks! :)
@zardozx1370
@zardozx1370 3 года назад
You´ve made videos about the 7,5 /germany/ version with shorter valve -also good for 18-25 Joule - is it the same with the pressure adapter -also tank bottles ?? - many thx for your perfect work
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 3 года назад
Thank you. The HPA tank will need to have a higher output pressuse to make it have as much power as when using CO2. I guess ca 1100 PSI or more for best result :)
@zardozx1370
@zardozx1370 3 года назад
@@runerebel8441 many thx - I stay by the 12gr -CO2 cpsules ..
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 3 года назад
@@zardozx1370 The 12 gram CO2 is my favorite too :)
@nickc7372
@nickc7372 2 года назад
I need Help Mr.Rune Finding A Place To Buy A Barrel Extension.Any Help Would Be Appreciated Thank You. Also I would like a good recommendation on . I was also wondering if there is a upgrade for the Umarex HDP 50 Stock Pistol I bought From Amazon. I love your videos the are very informative thank you.I am in the United States 🇺🇸 All . Thank You All for any help you can offer
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Thank you Nick. Iam very glad you like my videos. I got the long barrels, slugmakers and Powerkit from www.homedefence-24.com They ship too the USA plus the rest of the world. Shipping make take a few weeks but you will get it. Take care and happy shooting. Cheers from Norway :)
@billmasen3923
@billmasen3923 3 года назад
Sir, do you know of a UK importer of the upgrade kits for the HDR50 please?
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 3 года назад
Hi Sir. I think you must be directly from www.homedefence-24.com
@antisocialsecret7584
@antisocialsecret7584 Год назад
12cm extra barrel, and its must pick up a few numbers of more joules.
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 Год назад
Yes. I think so to. I need a long barrel...
@FLAlesslethal
@FLAlesslethal Месяц назад
7.5 or 11j and is the valve block removed? Great video My Friend! 😎👍 Got a few im doing scientific experiments on soooo...
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 Месяц назад
Thanks my friend. If you remove the valve block from both then power will be about the same. But you will need a restrictor for the 7,5 joule or it will fart (dump CO2).You can buy one from www.homedefence-24.com or make one from the tip of a used CO2 canister. Good luck with the experimentation 😃
@FLAlesslethal
@FLAlesslethal Месяц назад
Yes I know. I've already done them both. A little more room for air and the power tuned restricter cap I think is why it gives me a little more. Oh, I did put a little shorter valve pin in the 7.5. 🤣👍 Thanks- Hope all is well with you......
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 Месяц назад
@@FLAlesslethal Thanks my friend. Take care and have a great weekend 😃
@angelangel5046
@angelangel5046 3 года назад
Hilsen fra Tyskland :)
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 3 года назад
Mange takk. Hilsen fra Norge :)
@bdettman1
@bdettman1 Год назад
Did the trigger pull get heavier with the new barrel?
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 Год назад
No. I didnt change the barrel-spring, so triggerpul is abouth the same.
@jasonsmith8570
@jasonsmith8570 11 месяцев назад
Hi rune , Can you help me please. I've got the HDR 50 T4E, I've just purchased the tuning barrel , installed the barrel and the rotary magazine just spins freely. Can you advise me please. Jason in the UK 😮😮
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 11 месяцев назад
Hi Jason. This will happend when the barrel spring is jammed or you have thightned the long extra barrel to much. Try and pul out the barrel gantly. Can you pul it out ca 1 cm? If not loosen the barrel a bit. If it still dont work right you have to open the gun and check the barrel spring. Maybe it has jammed. Good luck 😃
@jasonsmith8570
@jasonsmith8570 11 месяцев назад
@@runerebel8441 Thankyou so much rune for replying to me to swiftly. I loosened the barrel and it works fine . Thankyou again. Jason
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 11 месяцев назад
@@jasonsmith8570 Iam glad to help you my friend. Take care and happy shooting 😃
@AlifieAbsinTh
@AlifieAbsinTh 2 года назад
hello if i want to install the new barrel,i need to open the plastic plaque of the gun or i need the aluminium one as well?
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Hello. To install the new barrel you only need to open the plastic part.
@AlifieAbsinTh
@AlifieAbsinTh 2 года назад
@@runerebel8441 perfect 😁 thx a lot
@nordkrom4270
@nordkrom4270 3 года назад
What is the most powerful ammo for hdr 50 ?
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 3 года назад
I think the slugs used in this video is very close for getting max power from the HDR50. You can also try other ammo in the same weight (5 gram) and se how it goes.
@iyeetpaste3797
@iyeetpaste3797 Год назад
So, _just_ the barrel increases the joules? How's that work? I'm to understand an increase is due to the air power.
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 Год назад
Yes. Thats correct. The long barrel gives the CO2 time to expand and propel the ammo faster out the barrel.
@iyeetpaste3797
@iyeetpaste3797 Год назад
@@runerebel8441 I just received the barrel and shroud today. But after installing them the gun makes a, for lack of another term, fart noise and blows most of the Co2 out of the ammo drum. It's installed properly, so I don't know why it's doing it yet.
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 Год назад
@@iyeetpaste3797 Hmm. Did you open the internals? Maybe the small spring for the sear has been dislocated 🤔. It sounds like it from the way you say what happends. Open it up and check the spring 😉. Good luck 😃👍
@iyeetpaste3797
@iyeetpaste3797 Год назад
@@runerebel8441 Forgive my ignorance, but what's the "sear"? Once I took the one side of the shell off, I removed the barrel with its recoil spring and then put the new one in and closed it up. Made sure nothing else came apart. I did notice that the new spring is much stronger though because it was a tad difficult getting the ammo drum back in due to the part (I don't know it's name) that pushes into the drum to make a seal between the barrel and the ammo is tighter.
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 Год назад
@@iyeetpaste3797 No problem. Iam glad to help. The sear is the pice that holds the black bolt in place until you pul the trigger. The sear has a small spring with two "hooks" on it. The normal issue if the gun farts or dumps out the CO2 is that the spring has been dislocated or lost. However since you have not opened the internals I cant say for sure. The farting sound can also come if the gun is cold or you shoot fast. You can also try another brand of CO2. Good luck
@luvpants2012
@luvpants2012 2 года назад
Can this be dieseled too? That would be sick
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
I havent gotten any dieseling so far, but with the right oil behind the ball it might. Not sure :)
@yannregniau8866
@yannregniau8866 2 года назад
hi, where is it possible to have this long barrel ?
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Hi. You can buy it from www.homedefence-24.com
@Kevin-wy8kc
@Kevin-wy8kc 3 года назад
Hi what kind of mods can i do to the tr50? thanks
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 3 года назад
Hi. You can do the same mods as with the HDR50. It the same gun just different branding :)
@RevoLution83
@RevoLution83 2 года назад
C'est vrai que la version 7.5 joules avec le canon long et le power kit plus la valve percé est plus puissant que la version 11 joules avec le canon long et le power kit avec valve percé ?
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Hi. From the testing I have done it looks like the valve in the 7,5 joule is a little larger, but I have been told from others that they are the same. The valveblock from the 7,5 joule wont fit inside the 11 joule, hence I think the valvevolume is a little larger. The power will therefore be somewhat more from the 7,5 joule. Maybe 2-3 joule more...
@RevoLution83
@RevoLution83 2 года назад
@@runerebel8441 tank you bro
@pastori70
@pastori70 2 года назад
Longer barrel really adds velocity. There’s like 5-10J difference. If only it looked better, like silencer… Now it’s just a barrel.
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Yes a barrel-shroud would have been nice.
@Batty2016
@Batty2016 Год назад
..you can use a water hose ( for cars.. ) it fits perfectly over the barrel an cost nearly nothing ...then it looks like a silencer !!
@Derekfacha
@Derekfacha Год назад
Hdr50 11joules?
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 Год назад
Its the 7,5 joule with the Powerkit50 installed
@vc8280
@vc8280 2 года назад
Why here is more Joule than in shotgun ?
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Not sure since the valvevolume is even larger on the HDS shotgun... It could be several things like the selector for the barrel and the breach seal...
@clutch2827
@clutch2827 2 года назад
ship to america?
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Yes. www.homedefence-24.com ships to america. Check out their website :)
@RevoLution83
@RevoLution83 2 года назад
Salut rune quelle version 7.5 ou 11 ?
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Hello. This is the 7,5 joule that I put the Powerkit50 and long barrel in. I got the tuningkits from www.homedefence-24.com :)
@RevoLution83
@RevoLution83 2 года назад
@@runerebel8441 merci beaucoup pour ta réponse et quelle est le plus puissant en full kit avec canon long et powerkit la version 7.5 ou 11 joules?
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
@@RevoLution83 From my testing it seems that the 7,5 joule will give more power
@RevoLution83
@RevoLution83 2 года назад
@@runerebel8441 merci beaucoup
@JamtlandsRA
@JamtlandsRA 2 года назад
When it comes to impactpower: reading the velocity IN the barrel, isn't doing the longer barrel justice. The barrel makes the hdr and hdp more piwerfull then that, messuring four meters from the barrel. Thats How most european laws are written. Jouls 4 meters from the end of The barrel. Sorry for my bad english. Greetings from Jamtland.
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Hello Jamtland. My F1 Chrony struggels to read CO2 guns, hence I use the X-Radar Chrony. The velocity I get is the muzzle velocity. I dont have the space to messure from 4 meters away, sorry. Greetings from Oslo :)
@JamtlandsRA
@JamtlandsRA 2 года назад
@@runerebel8441 sorry for writing in a critical manor. I didn't meen to. But i see know, that i did. Sorry! What i was trying to write, is that : the longer barrel, gives even more power-improvment messuring from a few meters away. Thats all. Please keep on making videos and god night.
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
@@JamtlandsRA Thank you my friend. No problem. I hope to make more videos soon. Take care and happy shooting 😃
@Rocky-zs9ye
@Rocky-zs9ye 2 года назад
😁👍👍💪 good
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
Thank you :)
@Rocky-zs9ye
@Rocky-zs9ye 2 года назад
@@runerebel8441 Hello friend, I also put the steel barrel in two parts, it gives more precision and power to the HDR 50, how many joules do you measure with the steel barrel? Me at 20 meters the impacts are much more grouped, I am satisfied and I appreciate your video, a like for you friend 👍
@runerebel8441
@runerebel8441 2 года назад
@@Rocky-zs9ye Hello my friend. The power has gone up from ca 20 joule to ca 30 joule when I use the long barrel. I only shoot indoors at max 12 meters, but normaly at only ca 5 meters. More power and better accuracy with the long barrel 😃. Take care my friend and happy shooting 😃
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