6:05 In dead stop (enterprise) the station gave 34.2 earth hours to repair the enterprise, while trip said it would take Jupiter station 3 months , 3 weeks in the 32nd century seems a tad long actually.
in enterprise E2 they could beam components out of the future NX01. By the 32nd century, I bet they can just beam components and hull panels out, replicate new ones that fit right in, and beam them back, and it's all automated. The 3 weeks was probably more to decide what would change and how
The Federation has been studying Borg assimilation technology since the 24th century. Their nanotech/programmable matter is probably capable of spreading through the entire ship assimilating and upgrading the outdated tech. But they would have need to spend some time studying the spore drive and how it interacts with their newer tech. For example, don't want the detached nacelles spinning off into space when the ship makes a jump.
The Discovery getting refitted for the 32nd Century makes a huge amount of sense. It’s amazing how much better the ship looks. They also overhauled the Spore Drive, which makes for an amazing amount of character development.
@Lady Wanderer you'd think they'd have no issue assimilating spore tech and integrating it into existing ships...yet they didn't even mention trying to do that.
Redesigning the spore drive makes for character development? Nah, these writers couldn't develop a character if they were given all of the future events that would occur for the character in advance and an instruction book on character development theory.
@@willow5628 discovery seems to have a pretty damn big supply of spores, in fact they grow them themselves. surely this can be taken to other ships. surely they can, if not ouright replicate them at least grow them on a more industrual scale. we're talking about the holy grail of engine tech here.
The only thing that bothers me somewhat is the "A" suffix to the registry number. The refit Enterprise didn't have the suffix. And there is no need for it, since it's still the same ship.
With 900 years of upgrades i think its ok. Its a drastic yet not drastic refit. Plus officially the discovery was supposed to have been destroyed. Meaning if they wanted to keep that chirade up outside of starfleet, they'd need to upgrade the registry. Kind of like changing it to the ISS discovery in season 1. That being said, i understand your viewpoint.
Time travel being a sensitive issue in the 32nd century, it makes sense that Future!Starfleet doesn't want to contradict their own records, which claim that Discovery was destroyed in 2258. By tagging on the A suffix, they can claim that this is a later ship that they upgraded and named after the "original" Discovery.
All I know is the models from Eaglemoss will be better quality than the hi res textures they slap on a simple 3D frame. SH had to throw out all their ship assets when they jumped into the future. Hence why the 3D in STD looks bad. They are having to build new assets for everything they have... that they can sell as models and as new ships in STO.
My guess to a benefit of detached nacelles would have to be from that one time the Enterprise-D had its starboard nacelle destroyed by some Reliant-type ship, causing the warp core to explode 'probably' because of a direct line between the nacelle and core. The nacelles being detached I think would work like how we have wireless phone chargers. A damaged detached nacelle would remain damaged if inflicted by an attack without causing harm to the warp core. Not sure if this made any sense, but its just my thought on it.
@@Dynahi_Khavu And the Variable Warp Geometry. It's easier to make fine adjustments of the nacelles to alter the shape of the warp field when there's no physical joint to limit range of motion.
@@Janoha17 That's about the only benefit I could think of. I am still scratching my head wondering why there are nacelle struts still there then... they should've bobbed them off completely.
The ship looks sooooo much better now. The DISCO designers shines when they can go all out with their designs, which the 32nd century allows them to do.
I wouldn't doubt Starfleet can build a ship in days. The three weeks is probably trying to figure out how can they avoid disrupting the spore drive operation since the tech is new to them. Then you have to account for the Discovery crew having training time to be able to understand the process so they can still repair and understand the changes that were made. It's probabaly far more complicated than starting from scratch with tech they know just like the long restorations that take place with antique warplanes etc.
Even with current technology it can be more time consuming and difficult to retrofit something that exists vs building something completely new. As a real world modern day example, see NASA's Mobile Launch Tower for the SLS. It was originally constructed to launch the SLS Block 1B, but had to be retrofitted to launch the SLS Block 1 after the more capable 1B was delayed for ~10 years. It cost a few hundred million to build, and it would have cost a few hundred million to build a new one. But instead they went with the "cheap" alternative and decided to retrofit it. Billions of dollars later, it's now done. And guess what? Now they've decided to build a Block 1B Mobile Launch Tower anyway, for a few hundred million. Heh. Never retrofit when you can start from scratch. It's never worth the time, effort, and money.
allthough they seem to have done the upgrades without telling the crew anything about it, as we can see the bridge crew being introduced to the new interfaces and badges. seems kinda weird to me.
Starfleet has only been studying Borg nanotech since the 24th century. One would think that in 800 years they would have figured it out to the extent that they could "assimilate" an older starship. It's not like they had work crews tearing out bulkheads and physically replacing parts using tools.
One thing I don't like about the new series (STD and Picard) is you never know any real details about any of the ships ie weapon compliments or warp speeds or pretty much any technical details
I remain annoyed the way the new production teams treat tech in the series as tertiary or a plot device. The details and jargon are part of the franchise's charm.
@@Pantherblack exactly what I think just look at proper trek we know everything about the tech they even put out tech manuals with every detail possible but I can't imagine anything like that will be forthcoming any time soon
It's the 32nd century, 1000 years after Discovery. Ships still looking anything like this 1000 YEARs later is ridiculous. The show was always going to suffer portraying 1000 years later. Insane.
I was always cool with the idea of the Discovery being uniquely ahead of it's time in the 23d century, sometimes you get those leaps forward before everyone else catches on. But I agree, the Discovery's found it's place in the future.
@Darth Revan Regarding the tech, aside from the classified spore drive and commbadges, it's really only superficially slicker looking. Here are the ways in which the tech is a stepping stone from ENT to TOS and beyond: * holocommunicators are very glitchy and take up a lot of bandwidth. Not only did Kirk and company specifically reference this technology in episodes like The Squire of Gothos, that glitchiness was reason enough to stash it until the holodecks improved it. * training rooms did not have any NPCs with AI much more advanced than in present day video games. The real advancement of the holodecks was the treadmill tech, the other sensory simulations, like smell and taste, and realistic, interactive characters. The training room was basically just target practice, even less advanced than the rec room in TAS. * Synthesizers had doors, just like in TOS, so the food prep was probably similar to the tech in TOS. As far as creating stuff like uniforms, that's a much easier thing to 3D print. We can pretty much 3D print clothing right now. So, it's not all that impressive compared to the TOS food slots or the TNG replicators. * touch screen interfaces, we have that in the real-world. There's no reason it wouldn't be on a ship in the 23rd century. And that brings me to the point of why the show looks the way it does. Star Trek must always recalibrate to reflect our real-world future as well as fit into Star Trek history. Even if we never ever saw the 23rd century again, the backstory that includes the events of TOS would always recalibrate with every new iteration of Trek. A recalibrated TOS will always serve as prologue to any Trek that takes place after it.
@Darth Revan It would be old hat now, reviving a cult classic but maintaining the universe it created, but back in the mid 80's, TNG was doing something basically unprecedented. It also had a bit of a wonky budget early on, and then got hit with a Hollywood writer's strike. My guess with the others was like with the Disney Sequel SW movies, they had hours to fill on the TV schedule, but didn't necessarily have fully vetted ideas for shows before making them. Note most radically change the formula in the 3rd season once the actors/writers have a grasp on which characters are actually gonna be important to the audience. I think Voyager especially could have been better had it been more akin to BSG. Not the grim study of humanity necessarily, but a show where Voyager led a ragtag fleet of ships that join a caravan for mutual protection/support through the pirate wasteland leftovers of civilizations in Borg space.
I'm glad you liked it. For me the show and setting of the show are a mess and poorly realised and written. I'll take a look at this version of the ship though and I'll always like these guys.
I hate negative space in ships...but it looks period appropriate. And yes, a lot of the hard angles have been smoothed out. It looks much better, especially the dish; no longer some tiny little speck on the ship's hull.
@@megathelos4976 Yep, not keen on neg space myself but boy that big slab was asking for it! It may well be functional, which could be a bonus, seems to be some light or access from in around there. The neck has been pretty well done too.
Having more time to processes the refit Discovery, I have to say that hands down this ship looks waaaaay better. Now, again... I'm still not a fan of all the negative space in it. But... amazingly, they somehow managed to make a design feature I don't like, look better! I love the new hull plating and lighting. It does look like it came out of Tron, but that looks cool. I really need to see how those detached nacelles perform. My head is still trying to wrap around those. It's a weird concept for me.
It's an idotic concept that shows one of two directions the show is going to go with them. 1). They are there and will never be mentioned or referenced again, similar to the sweeping nacelles on Voyager 2). They have a plot or scene later down the line that has been designed specifically for the use of these new nacelles.
Might be a perspective change, but this girl has got a NECK now! I agree, the old Disco stuck out like a sore thumb in 2280, but out here, she's in her element. I feel like the incorporation of Star Trek Online elements into canon is deliberate. Cultural cross pollination at work.
Looks like they removed the bottom of the engineering hull, the walkways between the inner and outer saucer, the invasion stripes on the wings, and (thankfully) the bridge module is entirely different. I really hated the "gothic arches" around the original bridge. Almost as much as I hate the detached nacelles - one step forward, two steps back!
@@XTINFILM Oh I love the detached nacelles. A modern interpretation of the design choice for the OG Enterprise's thin little struts holding up these giant "engines" intended to be architecturally unsettling and indicative of the magical tech these people must have. But different strokes and all that.
@@Ithinkiwill66 I wouldn't think so. The spore drive is a completely novel technology lost to the ages. As advanced as they are in the 32nd century, I doubt they completely retooled an exotic technology in 3 weeks. While I'm not fussed one way or the other about the walkways, I would bet that those were structural compromises for the working of the spore drive, and they've now been removed to optimise the spore drive because the future tech allows them to do without (ie, personal transporters, maybe temporary walkways created on the fly with programmable matter when the spore drive isn't in use)
@@adamlytle2615 Yeah, I too thought so at first, and then I freeze-framed it, and they are open. The thing is the shot was from below ad you could actually see the ceiling through the open door. The color of the ceiling was light blue. I think it was the episode where they get rid of Nahn.
The registry shouldn't change on a refit, Enterprise's didn't from TOS to TNG it stayed as 1701, it only got the A when they recommissioned USS Yorktown as the replacement USS Enterprise at the end of Voyage Home.
The A is added because it’s recorded that the discovery was destroyed in the 23re century so it looks like to everyone else that this ship is it’s successor.
@@jaycannau To be honest only the first Enterprise -A makes any sense, it was an existing ship replacing one destroyed of the same class, after that all the Enterprises were different classes so should have got new numbers. Now Discovery was never decommissioned so should retain her number, it's the same ship, whether once listed as missing or destroyed, it wasn't and the record should have been changed to reflect the truth. When the Miranda-class USS Lantree came through time, did it get an -A reg?
Those nacelles...I'm waiting for the gag where the captain calls top go to warp...and the nacelles take off without them, leaving them to chase after on impulse and spore drive...
The new Disco skin looks almost exactly like the Platinum vanity shield in Star Trek Online. Also, the Admiral stated that the Discovery was logged as destroyed in 2258, so it makes sense that it's been commissioned in 3189 as the Disco-A.
Ship of Thesus could explain the A. They did do a complete tear down of aspects like the the secondary hull and then build up around the spore drive. They did everything they could to keep the corridor unchanged yet under the paint is 32nd tech. They can build a main engineering set and have the warp core be the size of a walnut or each nacelle has its own warp core.
It's also because of how Time Travel is illegal in the 32nd century and they wanted to hide that she is indeed a ship from the past that travelled through time, the Uniforms can just as easily be explained as being the result of the Discovery being a generational ship.
@@DelcoRanz93 A cover that it was a generational ship would also explain why it is 930 years old vs. it traveled from 930 years in the past in an instance
They have programmable matter and people are seriously questioning a 3 week refit? Book's ship was able to disassemble and reconfigure itself facing a new direction in seconds.
@Lady Wanderer it’s future tech that can literally create things in seconds. All it would take the SCE (if there still is a SCE) to do is do a detail scan of Discovery and its systems and a few moments to figure how to implement the refit. Don’t forget even in the late 24th century it didn’t take long to refit ships heck it took a week or so to fix the Enterprise-E after the battle with Shinzon where it took heavy damage, so it wouldn’t take long in the 32nd century to refit a still intact ship in 3 weeks,
@Lady Wanderer they can’t mass produce discovery ships with spore drive tech as they still need a pilot and as far as I’m aware there is still only one pilot and that’s Stamets. A 900 year old ship yes but it has not got the physical age of those 900 years as it’s only about 4ish years old by the end of the 2nd season plus they have those small worker bees/droids and engineers that can replace that old tech for new very quickly and if you remember what the security officer said that they kept the consoles similar to what the bridge crews know so it would be easier for them to integrate better and it would make sense that they did that through out for the benefit of the discovery crew.
@@jaycannau Yeah I don't see why this is a big deal. Franky, replicators and transporters make the original 18 months for the Enterprise refit a little dated as a timeframe.
@Lady Wanderer another complication would be the Sphere AI. How do you upgrade the computers without just replacing them outright, which would surely trigger a self-defence action from the AI.
@Lady Wanderer and you’ve forgotten that stamets has tardigrade DNA mixed with his which CONNECTS him with the network and that it takes a mixture of the navigational computers and the human/tardigrade element to make the whole thing work which was explained over the last 3 seasons because if you remember the supercomputer didn’t work because it was missing the tardigrade then later tardigrade/stamets connection to the network. Again your comparing our primitive early 21st century science and technology to FICTIONAL highly advanced 32nd science and technology
I am pleased that they actually did this. I was worried that they would keep the Discovery at 23rd century tech levels, which would not have made sense. Now, if they could do a few scans and add spore drives to all the other ships of the fleet...
I totally missed the -A because I was fixated on all the repair drones/worker bees. The only saucer change I noticed was the new color/aztecing. Managed to completely miss the missing connecting corridors between the saucer rings, too"
It's -A because the original was "Destroyed" back in 2258. Kinda surprised they haven't had subsequent iterations of the Discovery. I'm sure they'll address that.
They only seem to have other iterations of ships that were important or historical in some way. Discovery according to the official records did nothing of note and was destroyed with people barely even noticing.
@@catwhowalksbyhimself - But you would kind of expect that the starship that was so instrumental to helping form the Federation would be a special case. It wasn't. The Federation Starfleet gave the Constitution-class Enterprise a new registry and then started the tradition of using suffixes for future iterations. Post-refit, Discovery still uses it's old name and registry, but has an added suffix to conceal that it is not the same ship that was listed destroyed in 2258.
@@lyle_waddell that would also make sense for making the necelles work for warp well detached since you need to get plasma into the necelles to create the warp field and since plasma can be shaped by a magnetic field so the same field holding them in place also acts at the eps conduits to allow for warp (in case people forgot the warp core of a ship is just the generator the warp field comes from coils in the necelles being charged with plasma)
@@flood256 and visually warp bubbles resemble what the earth’s magnetic field looks like with the north and south poles. There’s definitely some relation there... it makes too much sense😂. I guess the necelles could have a negative/ positive pull with the ship which would cause them to be separated from the ship but also held in place, even right now we can make objects float in place using strong magnets, so I’m sure 900 years in the future they could use a similar, more advanced principle
So...what about the events in the Short Trek episode 'Calypso', which shows the USS Discovery abandoned for a 1,000yrs in her ORIGINAL configuration? There's no sign of any refit (interior or exterior), no new technology, she has her original colour scheme, and her registry is NCC-1031 (no A prefix). As Calypso is canon in the Discoverse, this refit is a glaring continuity error.
It's either now an abandoned timeline or because the ship now has programmable matter it should be able to reconfigure itself to its original design if it wants to.
I do like that they didn't blow the thing up as an excuse to make a new one. I'm looking forward to seeing these ships in STO. I'm betting that it'll come as a brand new expansion pack, with its own tutorial. Rebuilding the Federation certainly leaves a lot open.
As long as they don’t go into atmosphere again they should be fine😂 although I think the supports are still there in some sort of way, maybe enhanced structural sheilding or something. The neck of the ship will still be able to spin the saucer on its own
@@benjaminnicholson3136 Not true. This is the 21st century. They have trans-wartronic nascent interminable power node nullification soave array nodes. The nacelles are full proof.
@@benjaminnicholson3136 Don't think that is an issue. Even with our tech we can easily build things that "float" a bit above their coutnerparts with not a single volt involved. So I can see them having the tech for that to an even more extreme degree
Aside from upgrading Discovery, I would expect an immediate Starfleet program to try to replicate the spore drive for other ships. Also, while Saru said that his crew was "retraining as necessary", I hope to see crew rotations in coming episodes, with Discovery's crew doing tours on other ships or in HQ, and 32nd century personnel doing tours on Discovery. This will help Discovery's crew to feel more at home, and help to engender trust in the 32nd century personnel. Realistically, uniform switchovers would also work to help Discovery's crew assimilate. The new badges are great, but nothing says, "I DON'T BELONG HERE!" more than a Discovery uniform in the 32nd century. It would be like a US Naval officer from the Civil War showing up on a modern day ship wearing the old uniform.
Okay I get the controversy with why it is NCC 1301 a. But the facts are that the Starfleet of now state that the ship was classified destroyed so it makes sense why it was rebranded with the a.
I mean, they absolutely HAD to change the registry to 1031-A, because if it was just 1031 and someone notied and was like "Yeah, this ship was built over 900 years ago", they'd instantly realise it was to do with time travel, and then the Federation is on the hook for violating the rules they fought to establish. And now they can just say "no, guys, totally a new ship".
Yea, shoulda litterally started like that: Discovery, a new expirimental ship, looks like a TOS ship, episode one they do a jump but it shoots them into the future, people think it failed and dont bother with the spore drive tech anymore! In the future they get the refit and BAM, the showrunners got ALL the freedom to add whatever tech they wanna add! No one will be mad about canon violations, because there are non!
Why would she? Quantum Slipstream would be a massive downgrade compared to Spore Drive, of course, Voyager-J had better have slipstream, if not they are betraying the legacy of the ship that brought that tech to the Federation. Also I would expect Starfleet to have assigned every science and engineering officer they can spare to Discovery to try to figure out how to replicate the spore drive, considering the shape the Federation is in that drive is probably the most valuable tech Starfleet now has, and getting it into mass production would be incredibly useful for them, in the captains briefing at the start of the episode they were talking about several ships going out to do months-long trips to deliver supplies, but Discovery could have done the months-long assignments of half the fleet in an afternoon.
@@terryforsdyke306 - Future!Starfleet wouldn't want such a game-changing technology to become too widely-known until they have had time to master it themselves. So Discovery would need to be equipped with conventional drive in order to maintain the illusion that they aren't packing what amounts to a teleportation drive. They can always spore jump across long distances, and then approach a destination using conventional FTL.
@@daniels7907 Good point, Starfleet would also likely not want to reveal that they suddenly got enough Dilithium to fully power the fleet for the better part of a Century (in the shot where they were extracting some Dilithium for Book about 15 minutes in to episode 3.3 you can see 20+ rows at least 40 wide, and it looked like there was another wall with the same, and we were probably not seeing the full length of the room, crystals must last at least 5 years, Enterprise NCC-1701 only needed, if I recall correctly, 6 to run and had no spares when on its 5 year mission, Discovery looked to have at least 1,600 spare crystals, probably enough for her to run for close to 2 millennia, seriously why would Discovery have had a few thousand spare crystals when during Kirk's 5 year mission Enterprise did not have one spare set of crystals?).
@@milanondrak5564 Ill always tell fans...skip season 1 as there is very little good there, season 2 if you must but its filled with big plotholes and shits the bed at the end...just start with S3...its actually good!
Great video like always. Anyone who complains about the refit of Discovery cant be done in three week doesn't know our own history during WW2 the Aircraft Carrier Enterprise was damaged and was repaired with in a few days and the job was suppose to be done in a month was done by humans in a few day now just imagine 900 years in the future what could be done.
I really dig that Disco-Tron 1031-A...it's groovy. I wonder how long till it's in STO? 🤔 I wonder how the sphere data A.I. will react to this upgrade? This will probably allow it to be the benevolent techno-angel...or go HAL-9000. Maybe it will become part of the crew; have a controllable body made up of programmable matter...for away missions; similar to Dark Matter's Android/Ship character.
I'm pretty sure that NCC-1031-A was done to simplify record-keeping. "Ok, so we have to reopen a record that's in an archive on Earth, using a database language that's only been maintained on Vulcan for the last half a thousand years. Can we just add an A and call it good?"
NCC-1031 is officially destroyed. The A is probably to avoid suspicion. Somewhat Hostile Alien who knows history: My My Starfleet! Is that a Crossfield class? Starfleet: They were all gone by 2265. This is a "new class of ship". Discovery class. First of her kind. Somewhat Hostile Alien: Looks ancient to me! Why are you using an ancient design? Starfleet: We are going retro! Where putting the band back together!
@@TheMrPeteChannel - True. Working starships being extremely valuable post-Burn, I doubt that anybody would question Starfleet upgrading older ships. They just don't want to admit that this is the Discovery that was listed as destroyed in 2258 and actually time traveled into the future. It's also probably a useful field test of how their 32 century technology works with the spore drive. Better to do that kind of testing on a ship where the spore drive is already installed and known to work, rather than taking a newer ship out of regular service while they install another drive and put it through testing. Once Future!Starfleet has it figured out, then they can implement it on the rest of the fleet.
I think I know why.... Apparently, the Discovery was recorded as destroyed, so that the records reported as a closed situation, sence the ship was an experimental classified star vessel. So, in the far future, where Discovery is now, so that not to interfere any further of the banned time travel, the "A" was put onto the ship, with the future elements attached to her, therefore others would think of the ship as an all new Discovery.....but the question also comes to mind is that what about questioning her class.....the Crossfield class starship,(s) haven't been around for many centuries.
@@Ithinkiwill66 - They can simply call it a Crossfield II or something similar. To be honest, starship classes are probably less important post-Burn, since Starfleet is so much smaller and frankly a patchwork of whatever ships they still had left. They don't appear to be in a position where they are running off whole production runs of new starship classes. Otherwise, they'd have never bothered to upgrade Discovery at all. But Admiral Vance made it clear that they were going to do so before Saru and Burnham could even ask.
My guess is the programmable matter some how does it, and considering how is a thing that's being looked at in the real world, I wouldn't put it past them
Officially, Discovery was destroyed in the battle with Control. As a result, this refit gets a “-A”, as it has to be listed as a new ship in the starfleet registry.
Ehh the reason for Discovery A is simple the "first one" was considered destroyed 900 years ago. So yeah what better way to add it back to the Fleet with out extra work.
I did not notice the A suffix either until everyone started talking about it. I think it makes sense. Officially, Discovery was destroyed, so this would have to be a "new" discovery. I wonder what dose gaps in the secondary hull are for.
I am so happy season 3 went into the future so it can explore history of the federation over the last 900+ years, they can explore more about the characters on the show. This is exactly what star trek is supposed to be ( at least a lot closer then what season 1 and 2 did). Now any changes to races can be explained by 1k years of evolution. So i'm pretty excited. They may have just saved the show.
I saw the "A" first time... I kept re-winding the stream for a few minutes to check out the changes. First I thought it was stupid calling it the "A" since it's the same hull. But since the Discovery was registered as "destroyed", people in the future would be like "how is that OLD ship flying? Where did it come from??" Kill two birds with one stone and it'll look more like other ships in that time period... and aliens will think it's a new / newish ship.
Check out a top and side view of the Discovery at a orthographic view and you will see how horrendously long they are. Then look at other Trek ships and see how balanced they were. The VFX team who create the show have to shoot the ship in a specific unusual way to hide the extremely disproportionate length of the nacelles. Ive rendered the Discovery dozens of times...i know how out of proportion they are from every angle haha.
Over the last few years I've grown to love the Crossfield class. My only gripe with this refit is that it completely removes the 4 connecting corridors between the outer and inner rings. Yeah I know the ship's superstructure is obviously a lot stronger now so they aren't necessary on a structural level and with the personal transporters they're pretty obsolete for daily use. But in an emergency situation that seems like a major design flaw. If they were going to give the Discovery a logical refit then they would have completely filled in that blank space or at least beefed up that part of the structure. But no of course not because nothing says advanced like spindly nonsensical superstructures according to modern construction standards. That's my problem with a lot of sci-fi designs. Just because you can have all these thin parts and blank space and explain it away with super strong materials and force fields doesn't mean you have to.
To be fair, the original Enterprise was literally designed to be as spindly and impractical as possible by modern standards, it's a whole thing with Star Trek.
The original copper colouration was/is one of the only things I really liked about Discovery's design. I still maintain Discovery should have had an NX prefix though.
The only thing I don't think I like on the refit is the inverted triangle shape that connects the saucer to the secondary hull along the neck of the ship. I preferred the original straight neck. This just looks awkward. Everything else though is pretty slick. My hope for the detached nacelles is that they eventually settle into a default position a little above the struts /wings. Give the aft of the ship a bit of dimensionality.
I like it, but the A thing is weird when the connie was refitted it was still ncc 1701 it wasn't until the new ship a different ship was the A to realize its a new ship for the people who didn't see it self distruct
I think that if you interduse programmable matter into the space frame then an letter adishion is justfiesd. And i think with programmable matter you just spray it on there
I don't get the removal of the corridors between the rings...but they have personal transporters, so I guess there is less need to take direct routes anymore
To me, it looks like someone took a Crossfield in STO and equipped the Lukari shield or a shiny Terran T6 vanity shield for the visuals. Still not sold on the detached nacelles, but the Disco-A looks nice. As for it not being that different from the old version, there might be a limit to what can be changed considering how old its to the future tech
If they could simply clone ships like that I imagine that they'd have a far more substantial fleet of Dicovery-clones in days, and that every single one would have a Spore Drive already, with the Federation being restored in a couple of weeks.
A refit shouldn't have an A in its registry. Discovery wasn't destroyed. The Conny Enterprise refit didn't have an A and they had almost replaced everything as well.
My guess is that the A Suffix is a matter of necessity. Star Fleet doesn't want people to look into why there's a new ship with a registration number over 10,000 hulls lower then almost anything else flying around. Given the design, the A gives Star Fleet plausible deniability about allegations of time travel. Special circumstances, special registry.
My only problem with this season is they don’t have any dilithium. So in 900 hundred years they haven’t found an alternative! Pretty sure the Romulans in tng used an artificial quantum singularity instead of dilithium.
I'm having a hard time to get used to the detached nacelles, for me it's something that even in the future that should stay attached on the ship. Imagine you go to warp and boum, the energy field or something that link to one of the nacelles collapse, boum, no more warp and you have to retrieve the other nacelle even on impulse it can be a challenge.
I like it a lot more, does it look to futuristic compared to all federation ship sure, but it is farther in future we have even seen, and they can easily make the excuse why some thing didn't change is because it might affect the spore drive or something.
I still struggle with the idea a downgrade from energy>matter replicators and holodeck tech back to this programmable matter thing is some kind of upgrade. I guess I got old and cranky but I miss when they attempted to at least keep things sort of sciencey.
