If you take the time to arrange your ammo in the bag determines whether you gonna loose air or stay air tight. If you lay your ammo flat and seal it you will have best results, if you just throw it loose and seal it then any rounds that get sealed upwards will weaken the plastic and poke a hole.
Have a cheapo version and 12 months later, no loss, in any. Not one. I’m calling user error, or you bought a lemon. That said, sealed, even loosely, has to be better than in moisture absorbing cardboard. Plus, you’ve got them in cans with a rubber seal. God bless ... and turn off the tv, everyone
I’ve had ammo in regular cardboard factory boxes inside good condition .30 cal ammo cans for 50 years, no bags, no silica gel paks inside the cans (but a large one in the safe and closet) no vacuum, no moisture, just fine. Stored indoors or dedicated ammo safe of course with no wild temp swings. Also have reloads from my Father stored the same way in boxes in old .50 cal cans, no bags or gel paks, for over 60 years. That’s over 22,000 days, so I think you’re fine after 30 days sealed and with dessicant paks. 🤔 You’re overthinking it big time. The only way I would bag anything or go this extreme is if I was outdoors camping and exposed to dew and rain, or on a boat constantly. Think white water rafting, or a month at a hunting camp with your ammo can sitting on the ground 24/7. Where you store it is most important, and what environment you expose it to. With your setup here though you’re good for at least a century, so if that’s a requirement or it’s going to get rained on constantly or be stored outdoors, then you’re definitely ready for it! 👍
I have been vacuum sealing my ammo since the first food saver went on the market. The key, which i am sure you have learned since this video, is to avoid any piercing of the bag regardless of size of the hole. I use cheapo sandwich bags, and slide each one of the vacuum sealed packs in their own bag, and this prevents any nicks, or damage when sliding in and out of the ammo box. After I started doing this, nothing lost its vacuum seal.
Yeah for sure. When at all possible, I keep them in the boxes and just seal those. If they are loose...double bagging is key like you said. Much easier with rounds that are rounded (9mm, 45, etc). When you get to the more acute rounds (mostly rifle)... gotta double bag because they will pierce if not situated correctly in the bag.
HA! I've been doing this for 20 years! I leave them in the boxes and seal them up tight. I've had them stored all over; outside, inside, sheds, you name it. I still have ammo and it still works fine.
@@G2niverse Oh man I use it for so much stuff. I actually vacuum sealed cans of dehydrated food so I could protect them better. Not sure if it was necessary lol.
I use the thick non transparent stuff. I will usually keep them in the boxes as the vaccine sealer I have just crushes them but its added protection. Put in some silica gel and seal then put them in another bag. I usually buy ammo that has primer pockets and bullets sealed but I will seal them myself if reloading or buying unsealed. With .223 / 5.56 I will keep them on stripper clips and put a spoon in each pack (many throw them away and can get alot for free if you know someone in the millitary. It makes loading mags very fast. It's mostly protection from moisture/ water but also air and UV and also want to try and keep them at a stable temperature. I would not be surprised if russian steel case berdan primers last longer as I have had soviet ammo dated as early as late 1945 (no wartime dates as maybe it's collectable, and I think the Russians still use corrosive primers as they last so long .
I double seal each end, just leave a little extra room. OR... leave a lot then you can cut the bag open, use some, then re-seal. Also, I vaccum-pack them in the box. A 50 rnd box of 9mm just fits sideways in the common size bag.
@@G2niverse When I got my food-sealer I looked up usage on YT. A guy sealing up ammo was the first thing I watched. I thought... "I got ammo"! Just make sure you have a pocket knife when you go to shoot, or keep a small pair of scissors in your bag.
allan y Yes, but I was more concerned with it holding the seal. If the seal is going to fail its going to fail pretty quickly. If it holds for a month, it will hold for a year as long as were not moving it around.
It’s the corners of the rounds under pressure picking through the bag tried thus several times you have to stop the rounds from firming ridges to rip the plastic as it gets tighter
You should seal it, double or triple. If you have household vacuum. Industrial is much better. So if you have a friend who has professional, vacuum equipment. Do that.
I agree. I have been double sealing, or sliding the vacuum sealed bags into cheap regular sandwich bags. It prevents nicks or scrapes when you’re placing into the final storage unit. I found rolls of bags on Amazon that actually make it cost-effective to seal it more than once. Because it starts getting expensive using the actual food saver namebrand.
You are aware that my videos do not air in real time right? The original video was filmed LONG before it posted to youtube. But i appreciate the comment and yes, the food saver is awesome.
My experience is that the vacuum seal usually fails within a year or 2. I have moved to using Zcorr Vapor Corrosion Inhibitor bags for loooong term storage, or buying spam cans if that is an option. The Zcorr bags are made for 50 cal and 30 cal ammo can sizes and they seal up well.
Also, I can tell you that I have had pistol ammo vacuum sealed in the trunk of my car for two years. I live in PA so hot humid summers and cold wet winters. The ammo looked and fired as if new, no corrosion, misfires, or hang fires
It’s absolutely would. I have a case that was sealed back in WW2 of Russian 7.62x54r opened it and it fired perfectly. When I was in the Marines we fired ammo all the time even bigger stuff like 60mm mortars a d grenade launcher rounds that were from Korea and Vietnam era
@@blksubiesti yea get some ammo cans or pcv pipe and seal them up with air absorbers it will easily last 20 years just open them up every 5 years and reseal them to be safe
When I was in Iraq we were firing some ammo Made in Korea and Vietnam with no problems I personally have some from WW2 that works fine. Let that guide you lol I wouldn’t say leave it in a lake for years but a shelf in your house it’ll be fine
Well i was testing out if it works (which it does) and spam cans don't come in nice 40 round packages. You open a spam can and you'll have to package them anyways. I like being able to grab a pack and throw it in my range bag.
Have you (or anyone) ever tried shooting bullets after they've been vacuum sealed? I've read vacuum sealing them can mess them up even though they look good
I wonder if throwing in a dessicant pack would make a difference? Just the small food grade packets that are included in freeze dried meal? They are cheap on Amazon, silica gel packets. Just wondering. Thanks for the video, just subscribed, lots of interesting videos.
Can this ruin your ammo because I hear something sliding around sounds like the gunpowder is loose sounds like Maracas so I'm just wondering does it mess it up
You can always hear the powder moving around in a loaded cartridge. Rifle powder is in larger granules and sounds like sand or even tiny rocks. Perfectly normal. If you CAN'T hear the powder moving, that's potentially an issue.
I have 45ACP and 40 S&W and 223and 76x39 in the box they came in and are stored in a foot lockers from 2016 or longer and they shoot just fine so I really get all these doomsday prepper people? But hey, it's your time and money so all the power to you all. But with that said I'm sure there could be good reasons to do this for some people?
6 years is nothing. Ammo starts breaking down around the 10 year mark, you'll notice it more in stuff like 22lr. Once the decades pile up the ammo will become completely useless especially if it's unsealed. Thus vacuum packing, putting them in a military can outside of it's box with a good gasket and not opening it until you need it. Just because you're an Elmer that goes to Walmart to buy all your needs doesn't mean people who stock up are money wasters. But you quote "really get all these doomsday prepper people" so I'm not sure why you're against this video
only if you allow them to move around and rub against each other. Keep them stationary and they're just fine. I've had loose packed ammo for over a decade, still nicely sealed.
You do realize this video is like 5 years old right? BTW still have half of it still sealed and its perfectly fine. Stop trying to be a smart ass...its not impressive.
@@G2niverse It’s just funny how you can store ammo for one month not airtight and it will look exactly the same after a month Anyway, I hope your ammo is still good
@@G2niverseIt’s 3 years old. His comment was valid regardless based on the comments in the video. Please read my comment just made. This level of storage isn’t needed unless the ammo is going to be regularly exposed to the elements. Forget looking fine after 3 or 5 years, the way you’re storing it, it will be pristine after 75-80 years easily, as long as you keep it in an ammo can indoors in a temp controlled environment. A floor of an interior bedroom closet is ideal. When I take ammo outdoors, I sometimes do bag it, but then put it in a Cabela’s plastic dry box and you could drop it in the river and it will be fine. Your level of extra precaution is even better in that outdoor example, and I’m not saying it isn’t admirable, but it really isn’t necessary in most cases.
I have been using vacuum sealers for quite awhile now, You need to DOUBLE BAG your ammo,That will keep the sharp edges of the extraction ring from cutting your single bag. Or you can use what they call "Bone sheets" to place over your rounds before vacuum sealing. Even then you must handle these gently any rubbing can still cause a leak in the plastic bags. And one last thing...DOUBLE SEAL BOTH ENDS OF THE BAG, Very important. Take your time and experiment plastic is cheap...Good luck.
Only if the case neck tension is so weak a toddler could pull the bullet by hand. There's not much air in a case to begin with. There's an oxidizer already in the powder mixture for ignition, hence why there's very little to start with.
