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After 4 months, only one person tried to answer my question seriously. It gives me the impression the two lenses per eye thing from Valve was just marketing BS that doesn't do much other than increasing the God rays.
I feel like VR tech has gone a long way since the oculus dk1 in 2013. I bought a rift S the other day, and I can only imagine what the tech will be like in another 6 years.
Mann rookie mistake! It worked out for you now, but NEVER watch reviews after you already bought the product, you wanna die? You know the bad reviews hide from you until you bought it right??
I've got the index, everything is great. I've noticed that the speakers are not easily heard by anyone around you even when the volume is loud to you, I think that's cool as hell.
I really like what’s going on in the VR industry right now. Oculus is trying to appeal for newcomers with lower prices, and Vive is producing quality headsets to push its limits. Despite which VR headset you have, each has its pros and cons, and we shouldn’t argue over which one is better because it depends per person. Let’s not make Oculus v Vive a thing, like heated controversies, such as iOS v Android. Have a great day!
It would be oculus v valve since the vive is actually a headset by valve and htc together :P eitherway, i completely agree here. I absolutely hate these silly wars about whats better haha!
My favorite in depth review so far. Usually don't comment but it was very detailed and hit every point that any consumer or someone who is considering buying would need to know.
I’m so ready for my headset, I’ve used the PSVR for over a year and a half now and that’s awesome but it’s old tech now, I’m excited to see everything through the lenses on this amazing headset
1400 dollar iPhone XS Max: Nah that's good it's justified with the stuff you get 1000 dollar cutting edge technology: The fuck did you bring upon this cursed land
@@Spoonzey valve index is incredibly undurable and has a lower screen resolution than the quest, sometimes the index basically self destructs. I chose to stay with vive headsets so I won’t have issues with durability or battery.
I was a little worried at the end of the video about if my PC can handle it, then you said "if you have 1080 ti you're good" and that was all I needed to hear + "the best". I'm buying it, I want to play Half-Life: Alyx in the best way possible.
I heard that Valve was not intending on putting the thumbstick onto controllers, it was basically an afterthought, and Valve still seems to truly believe that teleportation is the only way to go. Still, a great review, and all about full Index package seems really cool!
Guess I should have just waited a day on my rift S question you answered yesterday haha! Great review! But you got me down the rabbit hole with the Overwatch VR. Next thing i knew I watched like 5 of your videos in a row. Huge OW player here too! Have like 600 hours into and I still love it (especially when 2/2/2) comp comes out!
xtremespecs personally, I Flex a lot. My “main” is Pharah with about 200 hours on her. However, with all the head clickers right now, I tend to play a lot of D.Va/Zarya, Mei and Zyn to fill in on team needs.
Quality review. Made me think you had a bigger channel. Also I find it interesting that the Valve Index Controllers also work with the Vive. Do you think there's some partnership with them?
Gently lift your control stick upwards by pinching it and then pulling - gently. Then, depending on whether it's the right or left controller, rotate the stick left on the left controller and right on the right controller until it starts getting hard to rotate, at that point stop rotating. Push the stick back down and try using it. Does it work better now? Great! Now rotate it back by as much as you rotated it the first time around, to bring it back into the original position, this time you don't life the stick upwards.
Thanks for this video!! Gonna be upgrading to an rtx 2080 super and i7 10th gen and wanted a new VR upgrade from the Rift CV1, the headset looks way better and controllers seem super cool!!
The thumsticks not clicking properly on the conrtollers are an "added feature" according to valve, but nobody really likes them and idk whether they're going to fix it. (I do not own index controllers, but i've heard that it's really annoying)
WooooOooOOOOOO my preorder has been in so long now, so much longer than all of yours! I'm getting my index soon real soon much sooner than yoooooou and will be feasting up VR perfection yesssssSSSSSSSSS
I dont know how you are a 4k subs youtuber your video quality and explanations look like a 1 million suscriber youtuber. Congratulation! Keep going on. I hope more people realize the commitment you put to your videos.
When he said the Index is not for you if you have low-end or mid-range PC my heart sunk so hard. I have ordered my headset and I'm getting it 12. December. I was worried and bummed out. But then the GTX 1080TI was mentioned as good enough and it just made my day!!!!
I know this video is 2 years old now and the index has changed but thank you for this video. It allowed me to get an insight on the kit as I've wanted a vr kit of my own for a long time. My PC is also meeting the requirements so I might have a chance.
@@merrickslocum9581 awesome i just returned my HP reverb G2 cause its IPD max is 68 and its unsupported in almost everything. My index should be in the mail now. How does the jump to 140 hz feel compared to the 90 most have?
i made a mistake of watching reviews before my headset came, got absolutely terrifed after watching gethip videos, but seeing this made me feel very reassured so thanks lol
I have a GTX 980ti and thinking about this headset. I don’t mind running at 80-90 hz for some of the more demanding games. I7 6700k. I think I’ll be okay and if worse case, I’ll upgrade my GPU. Thank you for the review.
Sweet! Good review. I am pretty sure I can't run the index on 120hz with my current pc, so I have to upgrade it afterwards, but I should be fine for 90hz.
I have 32 gigs of ram, ryzen 5 3600x and a rtx 2070 super, and I checked the recommended specs and it seems like it will be working good.... thanks for the amazing review!
I have a 1060 6gb which i guess is the middle ground for index, and i've heard from some people in the same situation. that it runs well and smooth for non graphic intensive games like beatsaber,gorn,etc, it struggles at like no man's sky, without dropping the quality of course.I'm not planning to upgrade really soon, but i would prefer getting the absolute best vr headset, get it to run decent, rather than getting a cheaper vr,upgrading at a later time, then getting the index,just doesn't seem as efficient.Any other opinions?
Nice vid, can you please make a video about your steps for setting up the index for sweetspot? would really appreciate a guide on that, since its more of a hit or miss for me when setting it up.
My question would be this: If you have never owned any VR headset before, have never bought any peripherals, is getting a valve index as a first device the right way to go?
8:48 Using the xbox controller, I often press the thumbstick accidentally when I'm moving backwards in tense situations, so indeed this sound good to me. But 1000 is too much. So far I have found no reasons in any headset to upgrade my Odyssey, as they improve something, but make others worse, as the black levels, wich are top-nocht in the samgung. Thanks for the video! Very good unbiased review.
Damn I want this thing SOO BADDD but not sure if my PC would run it and I can’t drop a grand on this thing unless I sold myself to slave labor. It’s literally as much as my entire laptop
Yeah buddy you need to spend money on a PC before this lmao. If you're on a budget why do you not just go buy a used Vive on eBay? Don't look at the top tier products lol
I only didn't mention it because there is literally nothing for the frunk (besides a simple LED screen) yet. Nothing even on the horizon right now. And it'll run games good at 90hz, not 120 or 144 consistently in all games.
I'm sitting here enjoying PSVR and it's been making me want to step up to a nicer unit. PC has a GTX 1070 and i7-4770k. Should I look into going in on this or will my PC still limit me? Steams website states that I meet the recommended requirements but I always wonder... y'know? Thanks for the review.
good video! i didn't even know the index has a mic cause i wanted to get one next month, too. my assumption why you can't press the stick at a different angle than upright is though that the hardware life should be more consistent cause we all know little things like this can easily break, bend or whatever else. from my perspective being able to "click" the stick at a not upright angle would probably break it sooner if you overdo it and maybe the developers didn't want you having to buy new controllers just cause the joystick broke too fast. dunno if that's true, just my consumption. :)
Steven Day really? I’ve heard not the best things about it... do you have one? Sure is a whole lot cheaper then an index... I’ve only got psvr currently... can’t decide if I should wait for next gen or get a higher end one now like an index or a reverb...
is a 1080 ti with i7 8700k with 16gb ddr4 enough or should I do something there? and cool video because i was thinking about getting a vr and thanks to you my decision was easier
I don't get why people complain about the stick click, it DOES work, it doesn't have to make a sound just because every console controller has, everyone talks about wanting quite keyboards and fans on PC, but now complain a button isn't super loud at every angle
Also tip for you, looking on how you hold the controllers in the video, it seems like you have a similar issue as me with big hands, your thumb sits quite high on the controller. If you have access to a 3D printer try out the boosters provided by valve as it improved comfort of the controllers for me a lot!
i love the comparison to the rift s on how it feels and the issues cuz index is just a gods product compared to rift s cant wait to recieve mine currently in the waiting list of 2 weeks atleast
I found that calibrating the joysticks so Up is angled more properly aligns it with your thumbs (cuz so are they) ended up fixing some problems I had in games.
thing about the sweetspot is always: you need to be in the ipd range. most people are nowadays and it seems to be enough to serve 90% of the people but if youre one of the unlucky ones, like my wife, with 55-56mm, youll always have a bad or worse experience and that sucks, because its not your fault and you cant correct your ipd, your down to the merci of devs to build devices that go down to your range, which most dont do, due to the effort.
Finally a very good review. I'd like to know if on visuals (only interested in visuals) you would consider this an upgrade from the 1st Samsung Odyssey - I'm undecided
Well if you say only visuals, then its an upgrade, but perhaps not that big. Ive seen users with the Vive Pro not being satisfied with the Index due to the fact that they had done lens mod + were wireless + losing OLED, which of course gives proper blacks, contrast, and colour. But strictly talking about the visuals and it was at least a bit of an upgrade. (I know you didnt ask, but if you take into account the rest of the package - the top notch tracking and great sound, the Index is a great headset)
Mine is on the way, hoping this week. I tested one at a friends at 120hz, but he only has a GTX1070, so not the best card for testing, lol. I am planning to test 144hz, and see how my GTX2080ti holds up. I will be happy with 120, but would be awesome if the 2080ti can push 144. The black levels were the only bad part I saw of the headset, in a room that is pure black, on my vive Pro, it looks very dark (but the stupid lenses ruin that anyway, due to being fresnel), while in the Index, the room looked more like dark grey fog. However, it still overall looked great. I also LOVE the knuckles/index controllers, and those are my main reason for jumping to the Index, along with the better FoV.
I can't decide between this or the Vive pro 2 I already have the Knuckles and the Vive base mounts 1.0 so I only really wanna upgrade my base Vive headset. So would you say this or the Vive pro 2 if you have also tested it?
I think there's a lot of people in my shoes, i have the Cv1 and the Quest but i also did have the Rift S which i had to take back the next day because of the IPD. It always felt like my eyes were crossed over and gave me headaches within minutes of using it but i was gutted because when i first put it on i was like WOW this looks so much better than my Cv1 but like i said within say 5 minutes i had eye strain. No matter how many times i tried it i stoll got headaches and eye strain. Also because my IPD is 71 the Rift S also had a really bad FOV for me and i can only think that's because the space between the lenses was not far enough apart so it caused me to see a very small FOV. I'm waiting for my Index but I'm still waiting for a delivery date as i only reserved today and they say out of stock on the other package so i have a little wait i think. I believe there are a lot of other people out there who are also buying the Index not because it's what they wanted but because Oculus disided to use software IPD adjustment. they thought it was a good idea to limit the amount of people that the Rift s would be suitable for and to say I was pissed off is an understatement. I spent 100s of pounds if not over a thousand on the Oculus store and now i can't play any of my games on there new headset and all i can do is use my Cv1. Now i have the Oculus Quest it's kinda hard to put up with the Cv1's resolution once you have experienced the Quest and the Rift S. 😥
seems like the best feature on the index is also the biggest complaint the controllers.... I am thinking about getting either rift s/quest or index leaning towards the index just for the headset quality but I feel that the controllers will frustrate me and the Oculus controllers are Apparently amazing but does not have full tracking VIA base stations.... I guess I will wait to see what CES shows off.... if the rift S/quest had some sort of lighthouse support I think it would be a better buy ATM you have to choose what trade off you want... I am thinking of buying the index now and hopefully a new version the controller will come out that addresses the flaws
I just built a new PC and I'm thinking about upgrading from my oculus quest to the Valve Index (my pc does meet the recomended specs) is it a good idea to buy an index?
I have a badass pc I spent years saving up for, but this is hard to justify. There really aren't a lot of vr games out right now, at least in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have one, but it's hard to justify $1000 on something I might not use. Also, I really don't have the physical space for their sensors. That's the main thing that's keeping me back.
what about the 2060s, is that card good enough for the index? i'm looking to upgrade my card soon and that seems like the only one that's realistically affordable
Tcymcws The Rift S is still a great headset and you get a lot for your money. Touch may not have the quantity of sensors knuckles have but still to this day are probably the best controllers for VR. They also have a ton of support across a vast library of VR titles. When you look at the Rift S, it’s refined and brings a lot to the table for modern VR. You also have access to not only oculus store (which I prefer, crashes less) but also steam VR so the versatility is there without having to spend hours of time fiddling with revive. The index is new and still had to grow into itself. It’s an amazing headset but it needs a bit of time. I think for right now or at very least the next year you made the right decision and I’ve Been in VR since CV1/Vive.
Rift S had too many drawbacks for me, especially for how late it came out. I'm also not a fan of Facebook, so I'm not huge into Oculus anyway (though I did have the Rift DK2, way back in the day). I went from Rift DK2 to Vive, to Samsung Odyssey, to Vive Pro, and have the Index on the way (I have already used and tested the Index). So far, the Index is the best overall HMD I have used, and by far, the best controllers. No VR controller comes close from Vive, Windows HMD, or Rift.