Vaush Reacting to Measurehead's Dialogue From Disco Elysium 

Race Enigma: It’s all just aesthetics anyway +1 conceptualisation

Measurehead is a non-cuck non-coward version of Sam Harris, who also hit the gym as opposed to sitting on his ass self-importantly and calling it "transcendental meditation". At lkeast MH says it with his chests loud and proud, meanwhile Sam peddles phrenoplogy grade racist pseudoscience at every step, and yet has Chernobyl grade self-pitying meltdowns whenever someone calls him a racist and especially when people effectively mock him for it (Eynah of Polite Conversations is doing it flawlessly). Also, radio shows beat a pseudoscientific book written by an economy major who wouldn't pass MIT statistics 101 if his life depended on it.

With high dexterity (good for shooting down corpses from trees as well ) you can do a ninja move and kick him in the head, knocking him out and pushing the button!

​@@rexrip1080Or dumb luck on a 17% check.

@@badethics7542 That is how I did it the first time, by pure luck. I was one of the Qa testers on this beauty whilst I still worked in Qa sector, the whole game is amazing!

This is ranked competitive racism

Even though he’s taking about fictional ethnicities I STILL FEEL SO MUCH DISGUST BUT I CAN’T STOP TALKING TO HIM.

I need to haras 2 more people of color to get acsses to ranked(

@@brimstonesulfur5013 That's the point. It's so show that racisim and Facisim is so goddamned STUPID. Mussolini did that with the Etruscians when that culture assimilated with the Romans, rather be completly destroyed by them. The Ubermench theory was corrupted by Frederick's Nazi sister. A lot of racists are brainless toots without power. Be better.

@@falconeshield I am, I’m a Furry Neo-Libertine Ulta-Socialist

“I AM AN EXCEPTION.”

That must make him a mega-bad example of whatever cryptic name he thinks his ethnicity is called.

@@somedudeok1451 I mean he’s 6’8” and built like a god, if he’s a bad example of his “race” I can’t imagine what others like him look like

@@thedemonhater7748 I mean he's a physical specimen to be sure, but he's also crazy racist. Anybody who calls other people "Chimeras" and "Ham Sandwich" that are *checks notes* "Waiting to be put to sleep" is not a person I want others to look to as a representation me and mine.

@@thedemonhater7748 Physical strength is all that matters to you? A god is not built at all - it's a metaphysical being that doesn't require crude muscles.

Local CEO of Racism

@@MrGemHunter The middle manager of racism

@@georgekerscher5355 hmm who's the CEO then?

@@MrGemHunter vaush

@@MrGemHunter Ervart?

That’s because that’s what all Revacholians are - an amalgam of cultures and influences. This subtly undermines his fiction of racial purity

A cauldron of degeneracy.

The voice actor is a Maroccan rapper.

@@andreasbuehler1821 Interesting. Though, I doubt that's a Maroccan accent.

​@@somedudeok1451considering how specifically directed the voice actors were, I'd wager this is intentional.

I did my second playthrough as a Physical character and it really doesn't compare to a PSY/INT focused one. Entire game is dialogue, piecing together subtle cues, and saying the right things. Had Half-Light at 11 from early on hoping I could make people panic and I only got to intimidate 3-4 people.

really, i feel like you get the same amount of dialogue no matter what you choose

I roundhouse kicked him by having a really lucky roll on a psychological character which was very cool but I lost every physical interaction after that.

Everytime I play, I get to kick MH's ass even with the crappy pants. I guess my 0 Facist points are too much for him.

@@InsecureCreator the "Kung Fury" run

Pretty much yeah.

I'd watch a debate between vaush and measurehead, i want to see him get called a ham sandwich

Sanest Vaush debater

My favorite comment regarding Measurehead btw

Nah thats the racist lorry driver

JBP, noted Übermensch

Up yours, Dolorian Moralists. We'll see who cancels who.

Does that mean I look like a pure virgin or something.

"Your body betrays your degeneracy" * falls into a 3 month long withdrawal coma

​@@rainbowkrampus Ah, the truest model of the superb man, whose body has surpassed its compatibility for lowly indulgences such as apple cider, or the need to separate humankind from the hierarchical structure of the noble lobster. His battlecry shall echo from out the mountaintops and into the greatest of legends: "Up yours, woke moralists! We'll see who cancels WHO!!!" (edit: formatting)

I just got lucky, lol

@@angelman906 yeah iirc even with my stats the success chance was pretty low. Very satisfying to get though 😂

racism should always be ended by a roundhouse kick

@@narikobeilschmidt Indeed it should.

Same. Felt amazing lol

Learned it from the best.

He’s gonna get banned from Twitch for saying the h-slur (h*m s*ndwich)

I also like how it remixes the main harbor music, it's very similar in it's industrial theme, but the guitar strings are way more menacing, like in a war chant or something.

It's quite difficult to evaluate this from writer's perspective. Technically speaking, this is terrible writing. It goes against the sacred rule of brevity (the whole game does); and this is the most often cited reason for ditching the game among people who gave it a try, but sometimes it's so hilarious despite being so overdrawn that I can't help but appreciate it.

@@MrKosobi huh? You mean that the convos are too long? That's the entire point of the game, for people who like dialogue, it's like reading a good book where you make your own decisions

@@wile123456 the game could have been storytelled just as well with half the text. Itd make it much better, too, but thats just my opinion.

@@MrKosobi you don't mind the text when it's enjoyable to read and the voice acting is good

And that the easiest, most apparent solution to your problem (which in this case, assuming your character is smarter than the lorry driver you passed to get here, would be internalizing Advanced Race Theory) is not always the best. Because if you do that, congratulations! Your character is now racist, for the rest of the game. Now spend a skill point just to unlearn it, or live with the consequences of your actions.

​@@thatshadowguy1005virgin race theorist vs chad alcoholic racist puncher

​@@thatshadowguy1005 Wait learning about race theory doesnt make your character automatically racist in ideology does it? (Didnt do the thought idk if there is racist harry afterwards)

@@atherisGAY it absolutely does

@@thatshadowguy1005 thats fun though live a little

Wait, it happened with Andrew ryan?

@@Bigburton3 Yes, and you don't have to look hard to find it -- in fairness, Andrew Ryan was a hell of a showman, but he didn't have nearly as much dialogue nor did he require nearly as much commitment to learn about as Measurehead.

@@SlayerEndX13 I've never seen anyone online quote Andrew Ryan. Outside of one or two memes.

Andrew Ryan was basically just genderbent Ayn Rand (though the name was supposedly a coincidence), so no surprise there.

69th like please take this offering and make one of them debate Vaush

The irony that a subjective stance that someone's face is aesthetically baby-ish, is more reliable a fact than "craniometry," is hysterical to me.

He admits he was born in Revachol before integrating. I don't remember the radio part.

@@txthtxth 1:37 you can see it on the dialog log

there's some good stuff in there for sure lmao

I feel like he’d either spend his vacation working, or stressing over his high score in pinball.

Kim Kitsuragi is the reason why Authority is the most important stat

Seriously. IIRC you don’t get any warnings about this guy except for how tough he is - you’re ready for a thug, but nothing prepares you for the PhD level racism he lets loose on you.

@@Necroskull388 This is no simple racist talking about skin colour alone. This is a fucking master of racism, a man who spends years studying genealogy and psychology along with morphophysiology to determine the greatest race.

Didn't he admit to learning his entire race theory bs from a radio show?

@@Inhisnowhereland Yes. But also, is that really that much different from the real-life people who get all their racial BS from Peterson, Shapiro, and Rogan? Despite the veneer, none of it's actual science anyway, so why NOT get it from radio shows and/or podcasts?

​@@InhisnowherelandIdk man, he goes in great detail about the aeropagites and whatever. He probably is a genuine encyclopedia on everything concerning race in the game. He is also comical. He admits that although he is Semanese, he's never been in the seman islands.

this is such a funny series of sentences

@@ChrisGreenLink indeed it is

“So… women huh?” What a fucking opener to his conversation from him, it’s like being with an actual racist and they go “so… Muslims right?” Or some other bull I love it

They're all clearly based on real ethnicities, Mesquitos are clearly real world Mestizos for example - a mix between Iberian and Native American ethnicities that make up the bulk of Latin America. Mesque being Portugal/spain in this, that's why they are said to love stereotypical Mexican/cholo stuff like Mariachi (mex music) and hydraulics on cars.

@@jazzy4830 Yeah, I'd kinda say no shit cause the entire game is based on real countries, ethnicities, cultures etc (wow wonder why?)

That‘s a pretty sick burn towards Irish ngl.

A fictional story in a game told you that? Wow, I better see it in action. /s

Most importantly, call them a ham sandwich.

@@NikolasoGames /twerk

Saying ‘praxis’ instead of ‘practice’ in English = exteme LARP

@@mareksicinski3726 "practice" does not have the same implicit meaning. If I say "practice" then it could mean one of many things, "praxis" means "actions that further left wing causes" in common parlance.

Haha i had low stats but i rolled boxcars so it worked out anyways.

The perfect mix of Elon and Peterson

I didn't need high stats. I just got lucky lol. Still disproved his point that he's superior though, which I guess was also the point: that he's a silly fuck who is too full of himself.

Ironically, al-ghul helps, I'd recommend commadore red.

A real H-bomber guy.

I've been there mate. Try a urea based cream for relief (Dermatique in UK, Eucerin in EU or US (I think)) and do an exclusion diet to find out what your dietary trigger is. Probably dairy. If you want to look into it more look for 'paleo autoimmune protocol'.

Do the skill checks just prove him wrong?

@@Linkard When Measurehead started talking phrenology, I pointed out that he has a skull of a criminal. He agreed, but continued talking regardless.

@@Linkard Yes for example encyclopedia points out that Measurehead talks about thing that supossedly happened thoushads of years before recorded history

@@ghurcbghurcb „the conversation has moved on”

@@Linkard Yeah, Logic and Encyclopedia make a point about how his craniology isn't the example of perfection, saying that he has the jaw of a criminal (to which the babes say that they love it) and that his lobes are too long, to which he retorts that ears aren't part of the science. Iirc, Logic is the one that tells you that there is no shot that he met his ancestors, because he's talking about stuff from the previous millennium. You cannot really make him budge with those two points, even if you make him admit that he is technically from Revachol, he just moves on and ignores your points, but they distract him enough to let you land the roundhouse kick, or at least give you enough points to maybe land it even with shit stats.

And to think all you did was listen, I love the unforseen consequences in that game.

You can be racist as fuck to Kim, if you’re a complete monster.

I think that the game gives you the racist voice option regardless of you subscribing to his race theory, because I've declined internalizing it and I still got those racist opinions as possible things to say, because they are available as part of the 4 main political alignments in this world - fascism, communism, moralism and ultraliberalism. You usually also get a 5th apolitical option, but that just leads you towards becoming a moralist too, that's the illusion of being apolitical. I was a hardcore communist throughout the playthrough, but despite that I was still always able to randomly start leaning fascist if I wanted to and the game always gave me a choice to change my mind.

@@Altermerea i switch between apolitical and hardcore communist. Apolitical whenever the communist option is just "commit genocide"

You can just forget thoughts you've internalised if you don't like what they are

Ironically the one thing these types are superior at is saying really stupid shit with fancy vocabulary.

Well....I hope not EXACTLY like him, that accent's pretty powerful.

The progressive far-left are the only fascist pseudointellectuals who spout "scientific" racism.

he reminds me of whatifalthist tbh.

Hes not wrong about anything

Only for the Bri'ish.

I am playing it right now and this pops up in my feed. Good times

@@TheExterminatorGuy Same just started playing it a week ago. It’s fucking phenomenal.

@@jacobballance117 I just wish I had the attention span to play it more! I'm only 8-9 hours in

@@jacobballance117 It's not for the faint hearted though or for people prone to depression.

I wish Vaush would show Kim’s rant when the racist lorry driver says “Welcome to Revochol!” 3 words, but a whole lot of racism contained in them.

@@TheBasedGreeg Since that rant Kim has really grown on me. Started the game thinking he's a stuck up and ended it wanting to jump his bone lol.

Who would Gary be, I wonder?

@@Kalevdraus Whoever you want dude

@@TheBasedGreeg Kim honestly gives the best breakdown of what a micro-aggression is. It should help anyone understand more covert types of racism better.

HOW CONVENIENT; YOUR HEAD COMES PRE-MEASURED. I NEED ONLY OBSERVE THE SIZE OF YOUR SHOE.

Measurehead is cuter

That's true. I forced myself through a fascist playthrough and it was completely different in a lot of ways. There's a side to some of the characters that aren't available unless you do a shitty, abusive fascist run (preferably with high physical stats, used liberally). Being endlessly cruel to Kim is painful, though.

Shoe on Head likes that.

@@Altermerea Shoeonhead would simp for him because he's a psychopath and she's a liberal

@@Altermerea Bruh don't mention that, Shoe would be all over him if he were real lmao

@@anitaremenarova6662 Shoe IS Measurehead's babe

He's clearly got a french accent.

@@markusa5293 Dover's talking about the philosophies Measurehead's parodying. There's bit of Hieromunk Illiador's anti-Asian & anti-Middle Eastern racism, a diverse range of Baltoscandian, Uraloscandian & Germanoscandian racist ideology, and Hothep racism, which is the most overt reference.

How dare you call him a bloody Kojko(slav), He's never touched a potato in his life. He's clearly just a regular Hotep considering his Semenese background and North African VA, Not some Katlan (Scandi) or north Konigsteiner(German).

Not necessarily a fascist by what he says alone, while fascism often relies on provoking racial tensions to gain widespread support and also has historically found itself in opposition to communism, Measurehead has very little to say about his actual idealised political structure like many theorists. Though he would probably support a fascist movement if it subscribed to his specific racial views.

Were is Gary?

@@jizburg Northwest part of the map. He's with cryprozoologist. That part of the map opens on 4th or 5th day.

@@user-pi8dz5mn6f ah, havent come that far yet

You act like this too when you're doing a fascha playthrough. Your ex-something ruined your life, so obviously wömen as a whole are ruining everyone's lives. You peaked in high school (possibly as a gym teacher), so obviously things were better in the Good Old Days and you need to turn back the wheels of time to fix everything.

They were advertising for new writers a year ago. Seems they were maybe expanding.

Unfortunately, it seems they are in the middle of some kind of court case. So we'll see.

@@evelyncarr6421 because they fired the writers for Disco Elysium

I think he was purposely wirtten in all caps just to overwhelm the player with the sea of racist rethoric and jargon this man is spewing. Really drive the point that this man is insane

All that the terms he uses are legit in-game terms, it's just that his theory is so convoluted that you do need a lot of background information to understand it, which the player doesn't have

@@katethegoat7507 And yet even if you know the terminology, it's still incoherent. Just like real life!

@@FelisImpurrator Incoherent AND self-contradictory, just like real life

@@jessicalindo7977 The kicker is that half the dialogue options don't matter because, for a solid chunk of the intro, he literally isn't even listening to a word you say.

which of these "races" is the name of his cat?

From what I recall, there is a reason that the founder of ZA/UM became known for their game and not for his novel.

Maybe I'm too French brained but everyone sounds French in that game

it's not set on Earth

When i heard his accent, i instantly thought of german.

@@MILOPETIT I'm not French, but he still has the most French-sounding English I've heard in my life. I have no idea how people think he sounds German.

I was under impression that he's supposed to sound more Algerian ("Al Gul" is an Arabic word), but also he looks a bit Samoan.

Garry is your average 4chan racist, extremely submissive and fun to bully... but Lena, god it hurts... the biggest betrayal in the game...

Looks like US political posters actually.

@@FelisImpurrator ahh the implications of that are all too clear lol

Well, there is ONE really rich character with an exceptional color palette in his portrait…

The backgrounds on every character represent some aspect of their personality and the messier they are, the more deranged the character is. Idiot Doom Spiral's reality is so twisted from the constant drinking he does that even his face is represented with shiny colors and it looks like its melting. Every Union-related character has a proper red portrait with a white rectangle/square, but Evrat's is inverted and melted down, so on. Measurehead is beyond all reason and sanity, so its only fair that his portrait is barely legible and only a crude resemblance of his in-game model.

Really? For me, the journey was one of hope (small spoilers ahead). The whole story was about finding yourself after you, the main character, hit rock bottom. In that process, you learn about the town and its people, which serve to act as a metaphor for your own journey. Along the way, on side quests you find people trying to make the world and this town better in the little ways they think they can and you even help them (like the church quest, the Cryptozoologist, and more, those are just the one I remember the most). Then by the end it's like you've changed, you've grown as a person and managed to solve the murder (and if you did the side quests those become relevant). So while none of the emotions we good per se, I felt that it was a start to progress. I felt that by the end of the game I left a positive impact on the town and the town on my character aswell.

​@@hi__im_zack4890 Well, if I am to be fair and give credit where credit is due, I haven't finished the game yet. That said, for starters, a lot of the gameplay dynamic reminds me of a difficult time I had in my life, the whole questioning your own senses and mind to get a grip of reality, I felt that in the flesh and the portrait in the game was nearly flawlessly done, too close of reality for comfort. That said, I don't have anything bad to say about the game, it throws some hard pills to swallow. That dialogue tree with Measurehead along with the soundtrack felt so exhausting but also, so very real, even the women surrounding and agreeing with everything he said. The game clearly tried to make a point and delivered it perfectly. I still remember the dialogue tree that made me stop because it felt so real (*spoilers:* It was the one you get after managing to open the hidden compartment on Harry's clipboard.), even after passing like 3 different skill checks previously. "You tried to hold onto something, anything, but there was nothing left to hold onto." I don't remember a game making me feel like a piledriver hit me so hard before. It's a beautiful game but, I really can't recommend it to anyone I know is going through some tough times.

@@lisarox4221 I know what you mean, it's definitely a rough game. And tbh it never stops being a rough game, but there are little bits of light throughout that make it all worth it, in a dark sort of way. Sorry to spoil the ending for you a little, though.

I mean, the ending is hopeful even if the rest of the game is pure despair.

Don't forget that the characters are.

Is the gameplay?

​@@iz2333 no

Planescape Torment is usually the game people recommend if you want something similar to disco elysium. Lots and lots of reading there.

The game is shallower than it thinks it is, as often happens

Green is evil

@@supereero9 oil is infinite

Honestly felt like a manic episode

> Haz has a breakdown More news at 11

Don't

That assumes Haz can get bitches.

Shoulda swapped potatos with corn, potatos will at least keep you alive cornsyurp is killing us all slowly

With the exaggerated swagger of a Semenese teen.