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Voice Teacher Reacts to JINJER - Pisces 

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I don't think anyone could have prepared me for this one! Today I'm finally reacting to the band Jinjer and hearing their lead singer Tatiana for the first time.
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@clintono
@clintono 5 месяцев назад
Tatianna has the voice of an angel.... as that angel falls through all 9 layers of hell and then fights its way back out..... And I adore it.
@jabberwokee4127
@jabberwokee4127 2 года назад
“I wasn’t ready” it never gets old. Great analysis and reaction. Liked and sub’d. A good follow up would be Perennial live at Wacken 2019. Jinjer live is simply mind blowing. Enjoy your journey down the Jinjer rabbit hole. 🍻🤘
@CyberBeep_kenshi
@CyberBeep_kenshi 2 года назад
No one is really ready 🤣🤣🤣
@nvhs1
@nvhs1 2 года назад
not gonna lie when I see a reaction video for this song I have to watch to see how off-guard everyone is about her screams and cleans
@FitzieJJ
@FitzieJJ 2 года назад
Yes to Perennial. Then Judgement and Punishment
@jebus456
@jebus456 2 года назад
I couldn't agree more.
@annakissed3226
@annakissed3226 2 года назад
Just like everyone else I was waiting for your reaction, knowing that you're a vocal specialist. My original plan for covid was to learn to improve my singing ability, sadly instead my mind decided that I needed to heal my childhood trauma instead & I have been sucidally depressed for 2+ years but it will get sorted & then I can work to improve my singing & I will have all this wonderful guidance from the youtube voice coaches I follow. I haven't watched to the end yet so you may yet comment but nobody seems to have commented about how JinJer & their families as a band are from the Donbass region of Ukraine which is currently being bombed flat by Russia. When Russia first invaded in 2014 they moved to Western Ukraine, which is AFAIK where they are still based. Given the Donbass is the heavy manufacturing area of the Ukraine, the interest in heavy metal seems obvious. Just as Detroit or Sheffield is big on heavy metal bands.
@dmwalker24
@dmwalker24 2 года назад
The reason I keep watching reactions to this song is for that moment with the E5 belt at the end. That's when people who understand vocal technique tend to have their biggest reaction, and presumably for the same reason I did the first time I watched it. When she pulled that out, that's the moment I said to myself, this isn't just about a novelty or a gimmick. She's the real thing.
@csgowoes6319
@csgowoes6319 2 года назад
I did notice though that she struggles with that part in her live performances. Though to be fair it's to be expected after a couple of hours of this!
@mattr7994
@mattr7994 2 года назад
Agreed. That’s the moment I watch these vocal coach reactions for. It’s a quick switch from the growl straight into a great belt with range, and the vocal technique folks tend to notice.
@loskillo
@loskillo 2 года назад
She has mentioned in interviews that she prefers not to do the belt live, because she fears not hitting the belt 100%.
@dmwalker24
@dmwalker24 2 года назад
@@csgowoes6319 Yeah, no one is perfect. I have little to no personal experience with the metal scream/growl, but I wonder about the stamina it takes to keep that up for long periods. The gender differences in vocal tract are more about size than fundamental structure, so I would imagine it's similar for men and women.
@Baka_Oppai
@Baka_Oppai 2 года назад
guess im not the only one, most reactors miss it tho
@Mekazas
@Mekazas 2 года назад
"I wasn't ready for that", "I didn't see that coming". Two phrases in 99% of Pisces reaction videos. Love it every time!
@Bla5turbator
@Bla5turbator 2 месяца назад
Except in this case its obviously a lie and she clearly knows its coming because its not her first time watching the video. Shame really. She can't even hide it, she verbally lets out that she knows what's coming on two occasions before the "surprise" and has the most obvious shit-eating grin just before she presses play again. I've seen toddlers that were better at hiding things.
@jeffmcilroy7081
@jeffmcilroy7081 2 года назад
Tatiana wins EVERY argument she gets in.
@Heroo01
@Heroo01 Год назад
Since she's Ukrainian she put a LOT of work into her enunciation. Her accent is really strong but you can't hear even a morsel of it in her singing. Her tone and softness is insanely impressive imo cause she just learned it by ear
@ericpeterson7512
@ericpeterson7512 Год назад
I love her voice. I can hear a morsel of an accent on certain words. I'm a connoisseur of accents lol and if you listen hard you can detect it slightly on a few words. Every once in a while she'll have an interesting pronunciation of a word too. I dig it! But overall yes she is very clear in her diction and enunciation, both in her clean tones and her unclean tones.
@patgodzi5346
@patgodzi5346 5 месяцев назад
pitch corrected unlive perf though..@@ericpeterson7512
@jeremynewcastle
@jeremynewcastle 2 года назад
The look on your face! 😂😂😂. Priceless! 😂😂😂
@russvasquez9571
@russvasquez9571 2 года назад
“Perennial” Live at Waken and “Pit of Consciousness” Live in Kiev are some of their best live performances.
@andersstromqvist2211
@andersstromqvist2211 2 года назад
Perennial live is great
@whispermason8052
@whispermason8052 2 года назад
@@andersstromqvist2211 who is gonna be the one live is better
@user-zi9pv5fd6p
@user-zi9pv5fd6p 2 года назад
@@andersstromqvist2211 yes 👍💪💪💪💪💪💖
@JPGameStuffs
@JPGameStuffs Год назад
Pit of Conciousness is so nasty. I love it.
@tinedel
@tinedel Год назад
name of the capitol of Ukraine is Kyiv
@justrandom6751
@justrandom6751 Год назад
Your smile is so infectious !! Stay smiling !!
@SuperClarky666
@SuperClarky666 2 года назад
Watch her live to appreciate her vocal contrast. I recommend "perennial (live at waken)"or "judgement and punishment (vocal one take) " . Great reaction 👍🏻🤘🏻
@goatbrother8718
@goatbrother8718 2 года назад
Yeah the judgement and punishment one take might be the most interesting one for a vocal coach
@AKJACKAL99709
@AKJACKAL99709 2 года назад
Definitely recommend "Judgement and Punishment" (vocal one take) to the vocal coach reactors! It's a great side view of her while singing/screaming and also a clean recording to catch vocal phrasing and nuances! I love the concert stuff also. Often those are recommended either to prove that really is her voice (not a processed effect as some allege), or just because it is their personal favorite Jinjer song. Nothing wrong with that, and if Pieces and Judgement grab this vocal coach then I definitely think she should go down that rabbit hole of awesome live performances.
@MrErikchaugen
@MrErikchaugen 2 года назад
This recording is also a live session!!
@SuperClarky666
@SuperClarky666 2 года назад
@@MrErikchaugen yes I know erik but when they hear the layering added later some are questioning I’m saying hearing tatiana in front of audience is a whole different thing and the vocal one take I’m not hearing layering myself added later are you? Im just wondering🤔
@MrErikchaugen
@MrErikchaugen 2 года назад
@@SuperClarky666 I was wondering the same,but it really sound like a simple harmonizer or octaver,wich can be used live also!!But i would love to hear her live,as you are not the first telling me she is amazing live!!
@Quizzy0000
@Quizzy0000 2 года назад
that last scream with ''emeralds are ripped away'' always gives me goosebumps
@abnormaltexan
@abnormaltexan Год назад
English isn’t her first language and she has said she works extra hard to make sure she enunciates every word properly. She wants you to hear and understand her songs and not just see them as a gimmick. This is one of the most talented groups of musicians making music today and she truly appreciates the guys behind her make her even better and vice versa. They are crazy good!
@RafitoOoO
@RafitoOoO 2 года назад
The whole band is so talented it's amazing
@OlettaLiano
@OlettaLiano 2 года назад
Tatiana is a true gem, and so it the rest of the band.
@jeffy6903
@jeffy6903 2 года назад
I sooo appreciate when a reaction to Jinjer is more than just "she sounds like a demon"... These are talented musicians, all 4 of them. And appreciating what she is doing and the talent she has is great.
@-R.Gray-
@-R.Gray- 2 года назад
The duality of her voice fits right in with the Pisces theme. The sign Pisces is represented by 2 fish swimming in opposite directions - sort of a split personality situation. Using the fish metaphors, part of her wants to be caught ( having an intimate relationship), and the other part is "skittish" due to past mistreatment by "callous men" and "handsome butchers". The "emeralds being ripped away" are probably her wall of iridescent scales which has to be lowered in order to achieve intimacy. As they say, "Once bitten, twice shy". One reactor said that her voice reminded him of his ex-wife's voice - before and after marriage. After this introduction, the recommendation is usually for a live performance, so you can hear her growls in a that situation, but their song "Home Back" hits pretty hard. for other reasons. It was written after being forced to leave their homes because of the fighting in eastern Ukraine, and how they want their homes back.
@thecassman
@thecassman 2 года назад
Well said. Great to see others write up the Pisces symbolism! ... The really sad thing about 'Home Back' is that many believe it's the current conflict the song was written about, but it was actually the conflict when Tati was a child... It's awful that they are enduring it all again.
@drobichaud1000
@drobichaud1000 2 года назад
shut up gray
@ralphg.1039
@ralphg.1039 2 года назад
@@thecassman Home Back rather refers to when the band had to leave the Donezk region and move to Lwiw in Western Ukraine because of the present conflict starting already 2014 in the east... since Tati is 35 now, she was hardly a child back then. ;-)
@lady00303
@lady00303 2 года назад
I'm a Pisces... love it..lol
@rickcolumbo3148
@rickcolumbo3148 Год назад
You mean skittish due to all the bears eating her when she swims upstream at the end of the year.
@matthewgrady3423
@matthewgrady3423 2 года назад
I have listened to this song hundreds of times. I’ve watched reactions to it just as many times. That belt near the end will NEVER not get me. I have to brace myself as soon as she starts with “Pisces swimming…” and just tense up until it’s over. I’m slowly been becoming a fan of this band over the past few months. Probably my favorite song of there’s is “Teacher, Teacher.”
@fjolagu
@fjolagu 2 года назад
I love that you checked out her speaking voice first to have a reference. Amazing band and wonderful people. Love them so much! ❤‍🔥
@cooltechnician
@cooltechnician 2 года назад
Are you here simping? 🙄🙄🙄😂😂😂😂
@j.f.fisher5318
@j.f.fisher5318 2 года назад
@@cooltechnician well, as for me always lol ;)
@austincasey4621
@austincasey4621 Год назад
The entire band is truly amazing. The amount of talent is mind boggling, and they all make it seem so effortless. Her song writing ability, breath control, pitch, etc, are all masterclass.
@belakiss8861
@belakiss8861 2 года назад
the Band is super technical and tight, then you have Tatiana is a vocal goddess...How she transitions from melodic to the growl and back is incredible. I am in awe....
@flightgamer7849
@flightgamer7849 2 года назад
Wow so surprising. Her natural singing is so warm and nice. I love how in that last scream she seems to mix her throat singing with her high mix voice...how?!?!
@krimzonghost1987
@krimzonghost1987 Год назад
I've heard people refer to it as "Double Voice" before, but It's hard to find a formal definition of this phenomenon. It's EXTREMELY rare from what I can tell. But you are most definitely hearing two tones in her last two growling segments. I have been questioning my sanity for the last 10 or so listens, but every time I replay it I hear the same exact thing. When most people execute a Double Voice type of effect it takes them more than one track to accomplish it. She is absolutely, terrifyingly INCREDIBLE!
@bradellington134
@bradellington134 Год назад
​@@krimzonghost1987this is a studio recording, and if you listen, the vocals on the verses are more than one vocal track. Could possibly be the same on the choruses. Lots of tricks can be done in the studio that can't be replicated live.
@brad_wilson
@brad_wilson 8 месяцев назад
@@bradellington134 100%, there is multi-tracking for the vocals.
@donaldjackson4456
@donaldjackson4456 2 года назад
Please watch her in Judgment and Punishments 1 take live not the stage or official. Its amazing. You get to watch her neck and throat the entire performance. Would love to get your take on that performance
@michaelnolan6951
@michaelnolan6951 2 года назад
I had the scales fall from my eyes (and ears) in 2019 when I first heard Nightwish. Since then I have been immersing myself in the European metal scene, starting with Symphonic Metal and from there going down assorted interconnected rabbitholes. This song in particular is a joy to watch pro singers and vocal coaches react to. Your reaction did not disapoint. Tatiana has plenty left in the tank for you to react to!
@chrisingles102
@chrisingles102 2 года назад
Omg thank you for an honest reaction! Your reaction was so informative as well and as a Jinjer fan I cannot waiting for you to hear her LIVE. Tatiana is RARE.
@narsos6043
@narsos6043 2 года назад
Tatiana has done a bunch of interviews. Even with some RU-vidrs. If I recall the interviews correctly she has said she doesn't know any of the science behind it. She was inspired by another female screamer: Otep. Then just practice screaming at cars on a highway, and in her pillow at home for years to to learn how and develop her style. I think she did one interview on Loudwire on how she learned to scream. "Teacher, Teacher" is probably my favorite song but yeah I agree with other commenters for vocal coaches and teachers "JINJER - Judgement (& Punishment) - Tatiana Shmayluk - One Take Vocal Performance" is a good one because its just her up close in a booth.
@joespradley2323
@joespradley2323 2 года назад
Next you need to react to “Teacher Teacher”. Thank you so much to reacting to them. They are the most unique bands out there and from Ukraine that we hear about in the news. Tatiana is so gifted and sings various musical genres in their music. You will absolutely love each suggestion because all of them will be great to see your reaction. Thanks again🙏🏼🌹
@Dee-ih2yf
@Dee-ih2yf 2 года назад
" Wallflower" by Jinjer also speaks to lead singer Tatiana's introverted side. The band has been around for 12 years now with different personnel, the most recent change being Vlad the drummer who is a classically trained pianist. The guys write the music and Tatiana (a self-confessed procrastinator who does her best work under the last minute deadline) writes the lyrics. Tati's early role model for screaming was a female screamer named "Otep" from the band Otep. Check them out with the song "Ghostflowers" and imagine Tati hearing a female vocalist screaming for the first time. The song "Wallflower" portrays the band's different personalities and Tati's artistic side.
@tjhorne82
@tjhorne82 2 года назад
Welcome to Jinjer. As a vocalist you would love Tatiana's one take vocal of "Judgement and Punishment".
@somedigitalist7681
@somedigitalist7681 2 года назад
Great reaction and analysis. Tatiana's harsh vocals are really interesting because they display aspects of both false cord screaming (low, open, dark coloured, growl) and fry screaming (usually high, bright, with high frequency static-y overtones) at the same time. To use an analogy, Tatiana's harsh vocals use false cord screaming like chest voice and fry screaming like head voice, and she can mix the two in various proportions. This is unusual because false cord screaming is done with the true folds held open, and its very hard to generate enough breath pressure to rattle the tissues that produce a fry scream sound higher in the vocal tract with the true folds open. Usually fry screaming is done with the true folds held closed enough to only allow a small high pressure stream of air through (the true cords are not used to phonate while doing this in a pure fry scream). It makes her harsh vocals pretty unique. She's a wonderful vocalist with a wide variety of clean and harsh timbres in her arsenal and the artistic sense to use all those tools in the right places to aid storytelling.
@j.f.fisher5318
@j.f.fisher5318 2 года назад
this is why It would be amazing if The Charismatic Voice could do another "Operation: Throat Camera" with Tatiana.
@daved2352
@daved2352 2 года назад
When I first learned what fry screaming was I enjoyed spotting fry screamers at gigs when their speaking voice into the mic came out much louder than their screams. It helped me to stop hurting myself doing the two or three backing vocal lines I had to do in my band too.
@buddybangs9445
@buddybangs9445 2 года назад
When I sing what I call death vocals, I am using almost no air and almost no strain. I can do it almost forever.
@ProducerJames91
@ProducerJames91 2 года назад
@@TheVocalyst you do need to see the charismatic voice video about Will Ramos's throat. It's Operation: throat camera with Will Ramos.
@0meljz
@0meljz Год назад
Tatiana is a piece of gold
@palladinodessa8988
@palladinodessa8988 Год назад
Watch her live, see her stage presence, hear her belt, growl, sing while moving all around the stage. The band plays behind her with precision. All of them together show their incredible talent. Perennial live at Whacken 2019. 🤘
@lloyderc
@lloyderc Год назад
Nobody compares to Tatiana. She’s best thing sense sliced bread
@TessT101
@TessT101 Год назад
Tati the vocal goddess. All bow down.
@leonardvandergriff6241
@leonardvandergriff6241 2 года назад
She is even more amazing live the entire band is what you can call perfect
@slarzyer
@slarzyer 2 года назад
jinjer is one of the best death style singers i ever heard and i been listening to this style since it was invented ...she has a great growl and completely understandable with good speed control and chorus like an angel...its great to see a voice teacher love it too
@derklemmbausteinnovize
@derklemmbausteinnovize 2 года назад
Like Jeff says : judgement & punishment … some more facets of Tati. great song too thanks for your reaction
@capstan50g
@capstan50g 2 года назад
Her belt on this song really reminds me of Ann Wilson of Heart. There's some layering on her voice to fill it out, but her growl is so deep and aggressive. I think you'd like their song Teacher, Teacher. It really shows her different skills. This is a Ukrainian band, by the way. So much talent in danger with the recent troubles.
@DyvmSlorm
@DyvmSlorm 2 года назад
Scream, growl, I think, especially when I hear Tatiana's last sound in this one, sounds like a panthers roar. So, I like to think of Tati as a roarer .
@3dartstudio007
@3dartstudio007 2 года назад
In the 90's we used the terms "aggression/aggressive" then "dark" then "whine" then "harmonic". Each singing style seemed to fit into that. Alice in Chains, aggressive whine. Cannibal corpse aggressive dark. Queensryche metal harmonic. Jinger covers ALL the bases, so... Great review! Thank you
@DrSkeff
@DrSkeff 2 года назад
What a fantastic reaction and I especially appreciate your acknowledgment of the band’s ability at the end. They are all top-notch musicians who write interesting, challenging music. Plus Tati is a poet who is writing in a second language.
@ryoichirou7865
@ryoichirou7865 2 года назад
woaahh finallllyyyyy Jinjer ^^
@ireallyreallyhategoogle
@ireallyreallyhategoogle Год назад
My favourite part is how she sings the word WORLD. The end with the growl, belt, growl, scream is great.
@MrHws5mp
@MrHws5mp 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it so much! I heartily endorse all the other people saying that Judgement and Punishment (live one-take) is a great one for vocal coaches to react to. Having said that, my favorite is still Teacher, Teacher (official video): it's just stunning.
@poggo7
@poggo7 10 месяцев назад
She's like an angel and a demon all in one
@jeffwellman8347
@jeffwellman8347 2 года назад
Very good analysis. I think you would really enjoy reacting to Tatiana's one take recording of "Judgement and Punishment" (subbed)
@roberta7727
@roberta7727 8 месяцев назад
Wow wow wow that was amazing she is amazing the band is awesome thank you so much
@donaldjackson4456
@donaldjackson4456 2 года назад
Yay my favorite band
@telecastersaremetal6648
@telecastersaremetal6648 2 года назад
Even when you know it's coming...Still blows your mind! lolol
@BTAColorado
@BTAColorado 2 года назад
Jinjer just put out an album last August called "Wallflowers" and were set to tour with Slipknot right about now. Unfortunately the war in Ukraine started, which is their home country. The guys in the band were in Ukraine and couldn't leave so that nixed their tour plans. Tatiana was in Los Angles with her husband and has been working on some collaborations with other bands. Once the war is over I am crossing my fingers they come ROARING back (pun intended).
@TokSic420
@TokSic420 2 года назад
Roman, Eugene and Vlad have been allowed to leave Ukraine 🇺🇦 and start a European tour as ambassadors of Ukraine. It's sooo good to know they are OK.
@BTAColorado
@BTAColorado 2 года назад
@@TokSic420 I saw that, FANTASTIC news even if it is just European dates so far
@j.f.fisher5318
@j.f.fisher5318 2 года назад
@@BTAColorado they generally do the european festival circuit in the summer, then branch out to various continents from there. They are booked for a festival in Australia though.
@BTAColorado
@BTAColorado 2 года назад
@@j.f.fisher5318 Generally, yes. this original comment is ten days old, their cultural ambassadorship status they were granted to return to touring happened the next day. I saw that Australia festival announcement last night when they posted about it. SUPER happy for them, I will be there when they make it to the US again!
@j.f.fisher5318
@j.f.fisher5318 2 года назад
@@BTAColorado :) all good.
@JEFFwasHERE...
@JEFFwasHERE... Год назад
Yayyyyyyyyyyyy!!! JEFF was HERE 🎉🎉
@Tarkus_
@Tarkus_ 2 года назад
It's hilarious that you were expecting something heavy, and yet you were still shocked. I love it!
@ShanLiB
@ShanLiB 2 года назад
Tatiana is a treasure and the rest of the band is so talented and so together in producing this. It really is a team effort. That last transition by Vladislav, introducing Tatiana's last beast-mode segment, was amazing. One of the ways to know Tatiana is not being damaged by this is the fact that she's been doing it for more than 12 years and has not been harmed. I really enjoyed your reaction/analysis.
@frankcastle7427
@frankcastle7427 2 года назад
and this song is just the tip of the iceberg. check out a few more and continue to be impressed
@sailordave1000
@sailordave1000 2 года назад
“Angelic voice” and I eagerly awaited your reaction to her chorus voice
@randalljones4370
@randalljones4370 2 года назад
Watching you attempt to construct the physical vocal production in your mind's eye while carrying on a conversation was precious. The words would flow but then the brain would give a nudge like "just think about the arytenoids... and what is going on in the posterior pharynx?" A very good and entertaining reaction. About 4 months ago we got a heads up from Elizabeth/The Charismatic Voice that she had arranged for a detailed laryngoscope for Will Ramos of the band Lorna Shore at a very legit lab in Utah (I shall hold off on plugging them only because I'm former faculty at another west cost med/dental U who has a similar lab, lol It's kinda like football fans, we don't cheer for the opposition, lol.) Anyway, that video is premiering this Fri June 10 on her channel. Yes, I know it's kind of clumsy talking about the 'competition' on a reactor's channel, but 98% of the time you folks seem to be much more supportive of others in your field (then we are in grant-competitive academia, or even worse in the private sector). You'll probably see the info in her community section, and you REALLY should see the teaser/trailer she has up right now...Will is such a real/down-to-earth/FUNNNY person. OK, enough plugging other channels. ...But since I watched all the way to the end of the video and you'd mentioned wanting to see a scope of harsh vocal production, I wanted to make sure you knew that video was upcoming. No spoilers, form me. But there's a hint at a very cool 'ah hah moment' in the trailer.
@deboraharroyo3047
@deboraharroyo3047 2 года назад
This song was to show off the new drummer but went viral because of her voice. You should check out the chirsima tic voice where she had wil Ramos of Lorna shore do a laryngoscope, it will premiere In 3 days
@deboraharroyo3047
@deboraharroyo3047 2 года назад
@@TheVocalyst also check out Lorna shore first.
@fundamentalconvolution1749
@fundamentalconvolution1749 Год назад
Something that I find amazing is her ability to maintain that clarity to her notes regardless of it's form. Both her sultry, seductive type singing in the beginning to the growls and screaming... How it's so well emphasized by that final fry at the end just wrapped it all together so well... Even after hearing the song numerous times at this point, I still can't really get over it lol.
@pushitlpvo
@pushitlpvo Год назад
You have a million dollar smile. 😊
@isnobodyreally102
@isnobodyreally102 2 года назад
I see jinjer i sub.
@sea-ferring
@sea-ferring Год назад
This is the best response to this song I have seen. Yes, the growl is super impressive, but the mixed belt is what really sends shivers down my spine. Her transitions are superb and everything she does is extremely musical. A lot of growl vocals are used for effect or to add aggressiveness, Tatiana uses every part of her repertoire as an instrument. I also like the way she transitions from a growl to a scream effortlessly - it's almost as if she is able to pitch the vocal effect.
@buddha6920
@buddha6920 Год назад
Never gets old man!That's why every few months I check for new reaction videos. Love Jinjer💖💖 Also love seeing people react to Floor Jansen,Viking Queen👸👸
@MolnarG007
@MolnarG007 2 года назад
I just love how Bethany not only got great facial expressions but literally react at phisical level: her face became red and she got teary eyed from excitement. XD
@stub011
@stub011 2 года назад
If you go through Jinjer’s catalogue you will learn that Tatiana has a higher and lower register. But it works because the band create the music that allows it work so perfectly. She has very little do to with the composition but they know she can add to it. The band site lots of bands as influences but I would definitely say that Opeth (not forgetting Otep was Tatiana’s eye opening moment as it being possible for a woman to do extreme vocals). Opeth and Otep are too very different bands but good in their own rights. I hope Jinjer will be remembered for their talent and the fact they opened up so many people to metal in the way bands that Metallica, SOAD and Slipknot did (just name a few) because they got people interested in a genre that they would otherwise of thought differently to. I’m 51 and I honestly think Tatiana is my favourite vocalist out their now. People can argue and that’s fine, my tastes are tastes and what I like is just what I like, it’s an opinion. Music / art is not based in facts, so love what you love and enjoy it, be happy with what makes you happy (unless it’s auto tune in which case I’ll say you are wrong 😂😂😂😂) love, peace and harmony ♥️
@j.f.fisher5318
@j.f.fisher5318 2 года назад
Whatever Jinjer's level of commercial success turns out to be, I am confident that in a decade there will be a generation of musicians citing Jinjer as key influences. Looking at the more recent success of Spirtbox, I don't think they'll be alone and bands like Jinjer and SB are going to be the end of this, but rather just be the first steps in a new wave of metal becoming an influential genre again. And here's the thing, look at how successful Adele has been, and she's almost always singing about hurt and anger, but it's made pretty, sugar-coated, romanticized. I think when music historians look back on the last decade, they'll point to Pisces live session in 2017 when so many women around the world were really taking hold of their anger and the amazing technique on display waking people up to a new paradigm of music. Music that doesn't have to choose between beauty and the beast, between Adele and Arch Enemy. Rather it is music that can integrate the two ends of the spectrum and embrace everything in between. That is able to be beautiful when it should be, but to express hurt and anger fully when it needs to too.
@wolfgirl1722
@wolfgirl1722 2 года назад
Check out Lauren Babic, idk if you e heard of her or not. She does a lot of covers, Bad Romance is a good one but then she does some nice soft vocals in her covers of “Lovely” And a cover of the Gaga/Bradley cooper song (cannot remember the name right now). I absolutely agree that Tati is in a league of her own, but you might like Lauren as well.
@paulcrick856
@paulcrick856 2 года назад
As everyone has said “Perennial” Live at Waken is a must for a great live vocal performance. Thanks for the knowledge and insight.
@JeffreyFF1976
@JeffreyFF1976 2 года назад
One of my favorite little vocal and performance details is after the long sustained "world," the extra little bit of visual and auditory drama as she sucks air in through her teeth making a soft hiss instead of trying to be subtle about the inhalation
@pikyarte
@pikyarte 2 года назад
Amazing reaction... Need more jinjer... Pls.. ❤️🤘🤘🤘🤘
@zackgeldhof1206
@zackgeldhof1206 2 года назад
Always pause. Always rewind. I ADORE hearing vocal coaches and teachers talk about technique and methods and the "Why" and "How" behind singing. It's awesome and I always appreciate music all the more for it.
@blakeshields3777
@blakeshields3777 2 года назад
Quickly became one of my Favorite bands. Tatiana is in a category all her own vocally. Some of her switches in Teacher, Teacher still blow me away.
@cattimus
@cattimus 2 года назад
You should also listen to “Teacher, Teacher” by Jinjer. That song is pure 🔥!!
@rofyle
@rofyle 2 года назад
My favorite parts are how the guys are just sitting there like, "Ho-hum, that's just Tati being Tati."
@Tarkus_
@Tarkus_ 2 года назад
When she switches to that belt, it gets me every time! So I'm not surprised that got so much of your attention. I'm actually not a big fan of harsh vocals, but I do love her regular vocals, and the band is crazy good.
@kevinwagner542
@kevinwagner542 2 года назад
Great reaction and breakdown, I love your insight. Jinjer is an incredible band and Tatiana is a vocal goddess, one of our absolute best in metal. You need to hear them live, a great next one would be "Perennial" live at Wacken. She also has a really good one take vocal performance of "Judgement (and Punishment)". Enjoy!
@sauletto1
@sauletto1 Год назад
I've watched virtually every reaction video to this as obviously it is notably incredible . Your professional observations along with honest and sincere appreciation of what you were seeing and hearing got you not only a "like", but "Subscribed" as well. Genuine objectivity is refreshing to find , and you clearly show it. Great video ! :)
@Jinjer13
@Jinjer13 2 года назад
thanx for your professional analysis of this song > one of the best bands I've ever heard, regardless of the musical genre lovely greetings from a german musician and maybe next > JINJER - Judgement (& Punishment) - Tatiana Shmayluk - One Take Vocal Performance please stay safe
@j.f.fisher5318
@j.f.fisher5318 2 года назад
Some will whine that they prefer reactors not to know what to expect. Personally I enjoy it more when one thinks they know what's coming heehee. I see recommendations for both Perennial live at Wacken and Judgement & Punishment one take. Both are amazing. Wacken is very technical and will show her on stage and her mesmerizing stage presence (I've seen them twice) and at the end she talks to the crowd and you can see how out of breath she was which is mind-blowing. Judgment and Punishment has a lot of belting and is more focused on power, and up close so her technique is on display. Great analysis - subbed. Cheers!
@j.f.fisher5318
@j.f.fisher5318 2 года назад
p.s. your comments at the end make me wonder if The Charismatic Voice's "Operation: Throat Camera" with Will Ramos of Lorna Shore is on your radar. My immediate thought was wondering if she'd asked Tati. :)
@BTAColorado
@BTAColorado 2 года назад
One of my favorite belted parts she does is at the end of the Resurrection Fest video of "Captain Clock". Be aware though Vocalyst, that's one of their heaviest song for the first 3 minutes or so.
@j.f.fisher5318
@j.f.fisher5318 2 года назад
@@BTAColorado omg yes! that part is achingly epic
@MrCmad1104
@MrCmad1104 2 года назад
Her one take of Judgement and Punishment is a great watch. I love this band!!
@module79l28
@module79l28 2 года назад
I'd say that the uniqueness of Tatiana's harsh vocals is the result of being self-taught. She wanted to sound a certain way, so she figured out how to do it without learning this or that technique. She said in an interview that in the beginning she felt disappointed with the whole thing because she sounded like a cow (😄) but she practiced and practiced and practiced (she didn't feel comfortable screaming into a pillow, so to avoid disturbing her family at home she started going to a nearby road and screamed at the passing cars) until she liked the sounds that she was producing and felt comfortable doing it without damaging her voice. With time she also developed an amazing breath control, as you'll witness when you react to Perennial live at Wacken 2019. Also, another thing that differentiates Tatiana from other female screamers is the ability to make the different type of vocals fit the mood of the part of the song they're used in (like you pointed out in the belting part) and her dynamics. Many other female screamers either scream in the same register during the whole songs or when they sing normally, they do the same. Like 549! 🙂
@jamescurfman3284
@jamescurfman3284 2 года назад
I love the face you made while hearing Tati's edgy rough vocals for the first time (she calls them 'extreme vocals'). I have done that myself. Oh, you have to give this another listen, you missed something. This was not the first recording or the first playthrough in the studio. She actually has a backing track that is her whispering the lyrics underneath the normal clean vocals. She's not actually as airy as it seems. I think she also did another backing track for the low screams and maybe also for the high scream at the end. Obviously there is some echo effect on the mic at certain points. And AMAZING, AWESOME display all the way around. This is a world-class band! :)
@nucleochemist
@nucleochemist 3 дня назад
A few years ago I had high-speed videolaryngoscopy as part of a study and I agree it would be amazing to see how Tatiana achieves what she does. I am so glad you mention this at the end of your video.
@michaelewifladt8605
@michaelewifladt8605 6 месяцев назад
Firstly... I enjoy this channel! What blows Me away, is how Tati is minimally trained! Mostly all natural. Feom My understanding! Wow! I love every Jinjer reaction!
@dallasclark5533
@dallasclark5533 2 года назад
Fun fact that never fails to blow my mind, Tatiana is completely self taught.
@austinshoemaker246
@austinshoemaker246 Год назад
I love watching people’s faces when she switches it from beautiful vocals to death metal screams. It’s unreal.
@gmatuz8276
@gmatuz8276 Год назад
Wow I've seen so many voice coaches & singers react to this song but this is by far the most detailed explanation of her technique and use of her vocal chords, job well done
@tomislavkosanovic1104
@tomislavkosanovic1104 2 года назад
All the artistry aside, I love how she clearly defined the mood of the verses, the first is all introductional and neutral beautiful, the second is already a step up , warning and more involving, and by the time the third comes she knows she's got you sucked in and plays the Master role, prepping you for the finale. Awesome dynamics by an incredible woman backed up by top musicians. The usual easing in is to check "Perennial LIVE at Wacken 2019", a beautiful sample of their live performance, or "Teacher teacher", but since you're a voice teacher, I bet "Judgement and punishment one take vocal performance" is what you'll want to sink your teeth into 😉.
@tomasguerrero905
@tomasguerrero905 2 года назад
Wow, I'm impressed with you so much. You are an angel and your taking on this song was just pure magic....I'm sold. The fact that you reacted to Jinjer like this makes me a happy metalhead!
@DarrellW_UK
@DarrellW_UK 2 года назад
Damn, I was on holiday at a place where internet is very fragile when you did this! Great reaction; not quite what I expected (I thought you might be shocked!) I’m so glad you enjoyed it, it was obvious in your face 😂 All you need to do now is follow your nose down the Jinjer rabbit hole! Oh, Vortex is a really good next one 👍🤘🤘🤘
@burtvanderboom
@burtvanderboom 2 года назад
Nice reaction! Welcome to the rabbit hole!! Start at 2012 untill 2022! 10 years of Jinjer!!! Jinjer is the best!!
@bboyshotty
@bboyshotty 2 года назад
haha whaat!! Glad you got to stumble upon these super talented folk! DEFINITELY do more!! Perennial at wacken, and "judgement and punishment one take" for another for sure!
@ArtSailing
@ArtSailing 3 месяца назад
HAAAAA, nobody can be ready! Im watching the feelings in your eyes, but cant see my face. Yes, this song is whole Ocean with all the gentle Breezes and brutal Storms.
@scuppernog1
@scuppernog1 2 года назад
It is so fun seeing someone, especially vocal coaches discover Jinjer for the first time. Probably because that is the closest we can come to rediscovering them ourselves. Believe me when I say that you have barely scratched the surface of what they can do. The musicians are phenomenal and Tati is a goddess. I have never heard a single song from them that I don't like. They sound great live but don't forget their Official Music Videos. "Teacher Teacher" and "Home Back" are must see videos Just keep going and the Jinger Army will follow along. Enjoy !
@borntogame8595
@borntogame8595 Год назад
Yes that is her vocals all of it
@ruicastilho3889
@ruicastilho3889 4 месяца назад
I love all your reactions. As a portuguese metal music enjoyer, I can say we use alot the term "gutural" to describe that kind of deep scream you refer to.
@davejohnston2197
@davejohnston2197 2 года назад
There's a bit of fry added to Tati's vocals. She does go full false chord at times, but most of the time there is some vocal fry added. She controls tone that way. The one thing that should be mentioned is this band has many genres they draw from. Jazz, reggae, prog, and classical, just to name a few. Vlad, the drummer, is a classically trained pianist. He picked up the drums to fill a spot in a band, and he's amazing with his jazz stylings floating into metal core. The deeper you go into they music, the more you realize you can't pin them down to a sound. Great reaction, and I can't wait to see more.
@nickmoutos8308
@nickmoutos8308 Год назад
Absolutely one of the most dynamic voices I've ever heard, the beautiful softer sounds and singing along with the growling Tatiana does is truly amazing! I saw them live in 2018 in a 500 person venue and it was every bit as good live as this "live studio" version. Loved your reaction and technical descriptions, thank you!
@AluviumOSRS
@AluviumOSRS Год назад
You went from my most favourite band in the world, Disturbed, to my second most favourite band in the world, Jinjer. I saw Jinjer at a friends place and couldn't believe the voice of Tatiana, they came to Australia and I did a "meet and greet" and it was amazing. Such talent, an amazing band and absolutely insane live. Like Disturbed they are even better live than on any album.
@Schblae
@Schblae Год назад
I think this is the best analyst and commentary of how "Growl" works so far by a Vocal Coach.
@yannlmp1728
@yannlmp1728 2 года назад
I'm adding to other comments, but you should watch "Perennial (Live at Wacken Open Air 2019)"!
@habib530
@habib530 2 года назад
I get goosebumps every time! I got to meet them back in November. They are amazing!
@millerbeer8743
@millerbeer8743 2 года назад
Metal... It will always spotlight the very best in musicians. Just my opinion and I grew up in the disco's '70's. To me it allows for the most creative directions. Love your reactions as well. You will do well here, and grow maybe faster than you can imagine. 🤗🤘🏼🇺🇦
@eaMCMLXXIX
@eaMCMLXXIX Год назад
I felt in love to this song, but not only in her incredibly beautyful and wide vocals. In all of the members plays, the whole composing, timings and melodics, too. This is one of the few songs i can hear repeatedly for hours.
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