Wait, was the vaccine a scam? 

it's impossible to ever discount personal experience totally, but the amount of misinformation that people report simply because they beleive their personal experience is fact is insane

This reminds me of the state I used to live in where the waitlist for the nursing program at the community college was years long because people couldn’t pass the math to get into the competitive program at the university. That lives in the back of my mind whenever talking to a medical professional.

You can’t used hospitalized patients as a representative sample of the population. This is a basic fallacy called Berksons bias I believe

Reminds me of the saying: When people are losing their jobs, it's a recession. When YOU lose your job, it's a depression!

We are a nation where the average level of education is high school, where the average grade was a C, yet they all think they’re freaking Nobel Laureates.

I really appreciate this, Doc. I sent this to my parents and it made so much more sense to them than me trying to explain. Now, if you could do a video about why sending your credit card details to people who email you out of the blue, that would be perfect :) thanks again.

Something else that's important to remember here is that Omicron still seems to be less severe in that it seems to cause fewer severe cases, so it's very easy to look around now and say that most people seem to recover well regardless while ignoring a) immunity either from vaccination, prior infection or both, and b) the fact that the vaccines were most heavily pushed when Alpha and Delta were killing a much higher percentage of people than the current fatality rates with Omicron. Assessing vaccine efficacy and necessity in isolation today gives a very poor picture of the circumstances that drove the push for vaccination earlier on

Unfortunately you can’t use logic to argue someone out of a position they didn’t get into logically.

The fact that you needed to explain any of this to a nurse makes me concerned about nursing education in this country.

Another reason that's a little more macabre is that more people who were unvaccinated have already died. A vaccinated person who gets sick is more likely to live long enough to eventually get sick again.

The fact this video exists says something.

Crazy that there are doctors and nurses who peddle misinformation like that without any concern.

RN here. Great video. Covid is the Poster Child for cloudy thinking.

It’s shocking to me that even “educated” people can have such a poor understanding of basic math. If this person is a nurse I fear for the safety of the patients that he or she is giving medications to.

Decades ago, when I was in my late teens, so went to a Gyn who suggested I get an IUD. I told him about a few ‘horror stories’ I had heard about them about them, so I was terrified to get one. He explained to me that was the only ones that people heard about. You never heard about the hundred of thousands that worked because women didn’t walk around saying ‘my IUD is working today’. So I went ahead & got my first one & never had any problems with that one or any subsequent ones…

Great explanation of the ratios vs actual numbers. Just like the 2 dodgy plane journeys in the news this week, I'm still planning on a holiday 😊

Also many people with immune problems were encouraged to get vaccinated first.

You'd think that a medical professional would know that, just because you get vaccinated for *insert infectious disease here* doesn't mean that you won't get sick if you come into contact with a human or animal that carried the infection, one would also hope that a medical professional would know that recovery times vary widely from person to person.

I remember learning something similar in my statistics course. Just because I, as an individual, observe patterns in those around me, that doesn't mean those patterns are statistically relevant. Which means you *cannot* draw scientific conclusions unless you use statistical methodology

The ending is important. People don,t just let their biases guide them. They refuse to listen to anything that goes against their bias. People refuse to change their minds. Change my mind... :D

People STILL think its a scam? Wow... Really makes me question people who go into the healthcare profession. :/. Thank you for finding the time and energy to put out these videos! ❤

She also ignored the fact that people who are vaccinated don’t get nearly as sick if/when they do get COVID. I would have almost certainly had serious complications if I’d not been vaccinated prior to the (only) time I contracted COVID. I still get my boosters even if they make me sick because I’d rather take the day or two of being I’ll from the vaccine to weeks of illness or long COVID complications.

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand the numbers. These kinds of things should be common understanding.

The propaganda spam bots spamming all of the comments cannot answer a simple question: What is the Covid-related mortality for non-elderly persons with no comorbidities?

I'm so used to being lied to, it's become a natural assumption.

Also it mutaites and the vaccines is like the flu vaccine, it always done off of the previous year. The vaccine helps you so that you don't get it as bad.

@Doctor_Schmidt please tell us about IgG4 antibodies and what the peer reviewed studies say about what they do to the immune system from spike proteins

and "got covid" doesn't matter. Hospitalized or died matters. But in that population there are so many co-morbidities that it's an unreasonable sample just on the face of it.

I live in the Texas panhandle. I have moderate to severe asthma, thanks to an amazing allergist it's now moderate and I haven't had to regularly take extra steroids for a while now. People cough into their hands when sick with COVID and the flu, and then proceed to take items off shelves, and place them back. Cough directly on food and drinks. They smoke here directly outside doors very commonly. And I carry a mask 24/7 because I have icp headaches, my migraines were an average of 21 monthly, I have pots, I have eds, an autoimmune disease, and I've been told I'll be lucky to survive a pregnancy, I'll have arthritis by my 30s, and I'll likely die in my 40s and 50s. I've had some doctors say shots are a bad idea, some doctors say they are a good idea due to my health. I'm at a high risk of stroke due to the combination of health issues I have, and I'm 26. But the people here make me feel angry. Most of them think covid was a hoax, the vaccine killed more, the vaccine causes permanent damage (even though as of now, COVID causes permanent damage to many patients) and I've been mocked, had people blow smoke at me during an asthma attack, and more. So I do think part of it is the area you live in, some people scream sheep while being ignorant and harmful to others because they just feel like it, and it's very unfortunate that biases cause people to put others at risk, or to label things as unimportant due to their own bias or emotional responses. These people, do harm, and I don't think they even have the capacity to care since none of them care enough to listen in the first place.

I find that pretty who begin believing things based on what they read on social media. I lost my grandma and my aunt to this illness and I am hurt when they say and try convincing others what they believe 🤦🏻‍♀️

As someone whos about to go on a plane thanks for the reminder planes are perfectly safe

I'm dealing with Covid my second time. First time, I never tested positive until after the first time. I thought I was dying- I was about .2 away from hypothermia, I was hallucinating... I am convinced I would have died without the vaccine. Incidentally, I was sick and bedbound for a week after each Covid shot, which has made me reluctant to get boosters. I got it again recently- proper positive test- and yeah, I feel bad, but it is not nearly as bad. Just happy to have survived it. Without a vaccine, I'm sure I would not have survived. I'm the type to get strep for 3 months at a time....

A further complication for this nurse's conclusion: When there are vastly more vaccinated than unvaccinated people, it becomes rarer for unvaccinated people to get sick. That's literally the whole idea of "herd immunity." If the COVID vaccine were more like, say, the polio vaccine, then getting a critical mass of vaccinated people should mean that the number of infections in unvaccinated people would drop to nearly zero. Unfortunately, COVID vaccines do not confer total immunity, their primary benefit is reducing symptom severity and infection rate.

You even look unhealthier compared to your earlier videos. How many boosters have you gotten? So thankful I never got it.

The "I've met" anecdote..... I have never met anyone who has died of smoking.

Just ranting the big farmer lines zero self research…

I hope this nurse isn't responsible for making mathematical equations to give out patient medication! He/she will end up being one of those cases where people end up getting 10 times the dose.

Not to mention cutting the risk of Long COVID after repeated infections.

Numbers matter..

As a fellow physician, I very much appreciate the way you explain this in a simple way. One other point to make is that the vaccine simply was NOT intended to prevent infection, but rather the studies showed that it increased survival! As someone who is vaccinated, when my (vaccinated) son brought home and shared COVID with us a few weeks back, we all did well, and basically had only cold symptoms. Much better than when we were trach and PEGing people in the ICU every day.

Aftermaths, the only hope for reasoning.

Not really a "scam". If someone disguises a bomb as a birthday present, would you call that a "scam", or something much worse?

I truly don't mean to be rude, but I really thought nurses were smarter than this. Thanks for educating, not only nurses, but everyone.

Most people don't look beyond their own vacuum thought bubble biases sadly.

Follow the money.

But where are the numbers? Source? Scrubs ain’t enough buddy

Nope it's still a scam

mmmmm, base rates

Brought to you by Pfizer

I can’t help being startled when someone tells me they’ve had 5 jabs and had COVID 5 times. I guess that’s my faulty perception bias.

But math is hard! 😂😂😂

Thought you were pretty right on, BUT, can't watch you now!!!

Right covers 8 weeks woppy

Hear! Hear!

Where are the peer reviewed studies?

The millions, I mean billions who didn't get jabbed .. They seem fine!

Is it true that Pfizer only studied mRNA for two years for a "flu" vaccine and that the mRNA technology has never delivered a single product for Pfizer until the rollouts ? Not a vaccine or any other medication ?

Good explanation doc! 👍 I appreciate your nonjudgmental reasoning, that’s the best way to get through to people who have misconceptions!

The nurse (assuming they really are one, because this is the internet) needs to be taught that the plural of anecdote is not evidence. Also they shouldn't be working in healthcare with that level of really bad medical knowledge and critical thinking.

Died Suddenly

This guy is a fake doctor

Thank you for clearing that up, and giving us something else to say in response.

Is she a nurse? She could be, because when I was pursuing my postgraduate certification. It was for nursing education, they spoke of nursing cheating. They also educated us on not being biased.

In the UK they scaled up and compared the data between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, as if the entire population was vaccinated and then if the entire population was un-vaccinated, the vaccinated had over 150.000 more deaths, I think it's important to ask why.

Doc, is there any way to tell the difference between flu and covid by symptoms alone?

Unvaccinated and got COVID 3 times....

#Maths

Thank you! I have talked till blue in the face about this. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but dang!

If someone personally experienced a plane crash would you blame them for not wanting to go on a plane again?

Would you like some AstraZenece, dr Shill?

Probabilities is a division of maths where ratios really mess with the mind.

I totally DISAGREE, it is not effective and doesn’t prevent transmission

Well said and presented!! 👏👏

If so great still trying to convince people 2 years later

Surely you understand that you are not dealing with facts. You are dealing with (irrational) beliefs and that's an entirely different animal.

Imagine defending a failed product.

Nurse: "You may experience side effects from this antidepressant, anti-anxiety, etc. That's normal. Just call us." 😉 Also Nurse: "Why does the vaccine have side effects? Hm?" 🙊

What disgusts and angers me about this so much is that she's a *nurse*--a medical practitioner--someone people trust with their very lives, and she's spreading this kind of misinformation, allowing her emotions and personal biases to cloud her thinking, and risking people's lives as a result! She's trained in knowing how to prevent her biases from effecting her judgement, and taught the very real dangers thar come as a result of doing so, and taught how alowing bias to effect the judgments she makes can cost people their lives, and yet she is STILL allowing her bias to cloud her thinking! And she is endangering people's lives as a result by doing so, because people listen to nurses, and place their very lives in nurse's hands! Thinking that she knows better than the thousands of medical practitioners worldwide advocating the vaccine is utterly disgusting hubris in the extreme that can cost people their lives! It's people like her that do not deserve the privilege of practicing medicine!

"thinking"

Great video. Thanks

Great explanation !

Uhoh, incoming Russians!

Ridiculous nonsense. People have no commen sense.

LOOOOOOOOOOL! this is some pretty hard cope...

Thank you for continuing to try to educate people.

Nicely presented, high marks for withholding judgement of the nurse. I would have been tempted to ask her if she believes Darwin was correct, the fittest people survive.

If you are a doctor then I'm an astronaut

Well, I can see your viewpoint Doc but you forget to say that everyone is still entitled to their opinions. But I totally get your views. As someone working close to your field, I agree with the nurse.

Vaccinated people are probably also more likely to come in when sick.

This guy's delusional!

Tell yourselves whatever you want. Thank God I'm unvaccinated. All my vaxxed friends keep getting sick from Covid. Kind of defeats the purpose eh?

Ugh, nobody cares

A hospital in my town ran an advertisement stating a certain high percentage of their COVID patients had never submitted to the jab. When I pointed out the faulty logic to a friend of mine that teaches at a medical school, he didn’t get it at first.

But, but, but, she's a nurse

but they said safe and effective and you wont need a 2nd or 8th 🤣

Both points you raise are valid but how do you know she doesn’t have hard data and compares percentages?

Thank you for making this video

Well spoken!

This dude just said “I don’t have any medical or scientific evidence, so I’m just going to insult your intelligence and assume you are incapable of coming up with a scientific hypothesis.” That’s literally all this dude said. “I went to medical school, you probably didn’t, so you can’t gather your own data and come to a conclusion.”

You nailed it again, as usual!