So glad you made this purchase whoever is saying it’s a bad purchase is crazy this is such a get upgrad dude. So dope you hit a 340 to and not a 335 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@justinbuice I'm hoping some day BMW learns what we liked about it, and makes an EV version as close to it as possible (just with EV drivetrain). So far, IMO, the EV makers don't really get it, including BMW.
Haha, you're kidding right? I've driven an E90, and it felt just like my E61, absolutely souless. If I think E90s and E61s feel boring, I cannot even begin to imagine how dreary your F30 must be to drive. The E46, E39 and E38 were the last BMWs with feel.
So a couple of things: 1. The wheels and center cap issues, that stems from proper maintenance (or lack thereof) and people simply not washing & protecting their wheels properly. My wheels are from 2016 and no issues at all. Not ceramic coated yet but they're sprayed with P&S Bead Maker every time I wash. 2. A true car guy is someone who simply is passionate about cars. Regardless of what they have in terms of engines and transmissions. Its everywhere where you see guys whos identity is constructed on them driving stick and bashing automatics left and right. I can drive stick too, but its not a personality trait like some people. My bimer has the same ZF8 Speed and its super quick and I wouldn't change it.
1. Some people are lazy or just don’t care about their cars. This also could have come from a coastal town in Florida. 2. It’s just a fun, unique experience that brings a little mechanical feel back. It’s also damn near impossible to find with most models and that rarity nets it cool points.
What amazes me is the amount of great content that came from the e90. This channel is what brought me back to bmw. Even though I haven’t had an e90 for a while I still watched these videos.
Justin Buice 325i automatic, I’ve got 330i manual, I think I would take manual over power, there’s just not enough opportunity to open up these powerful cars, before your done in second gear you’ve tun out of speed limit! Also your right the f30 seems ginormous compared to the e90!
Same. I thought about a f30 335i lately. Went for a test drive and guess what? I'm sticking to my 330i e90 lci (manual). The f30 felt a bit weird to me. Who knows maybe i'll change my opinion in few years. Cheers!
Just properly tested 330d F30 with RWD and compared to E90 it has terrible steering, but the rest of the car from driving characteristics point of view? Awesome!
LOVE the coral red interior. I loved my F32, never had a problem with it. I think you’ll be really satisfied with it. One thing I HATED about my f32 was the adaptive throttle. You have to reset it every once in a while if you don’t wanna deal with jerky/jolty driving. I think having a manual is fun for a “fun” car - but I feel you on the 8-speed automatic. Also, no dad or uncle taught me..... my mom taught me 😅😅 GOOD LUCK WITH THIS BUILD!
Thanks! Yeah some cars like the FR-S should only be had with a manual. It really depends on the car. In this case, I think the 8 speed auto was the right choice for me. Excited to see where this goes 😎
You nailed it Justin. I didn’t research buying my F31 beforehand and have been in catch-up mode since buying it nearly a year ago. Quality control is an issue with BMW and the rims on my car were so unimpressive it’s one of the first big changes I made to it. I also can’t figure out their entertainment system not being more Android or Apple friendly. I just paid $100 for a map update and once I installed it, it was like, “Gee, I should just stick to Waze on my Android phone and forget this limp navigation system.” I look forward to your blogs the same way I did for a new Motor Trend, Road & Track or Car & Driver magazine when I was a teenager - 50 years ago! Keep up the excellent body of work!
I bought a 328i sport package 2013,BMW was my wife dream, absolutly love this car Rides so nice,i used to hate bmw thanks to scotty but we bought for sunday drives as a toy
That’s good to hear! I think Scotty Kilmer gives good advice for people who don’t care about cars and just want to get from A to B. Yes BMW’s are more expensive to own than say Toyota, but they also offer a driving experience that you wont find in many other cars.
I love to drive my manual e90, but I start to drive touge and more fast I go the more Im pissed I need to put my hand out of the wheel and be not so secure on the mountain road (I hope it makes sense =D )
I like your choice. The B58 is an outstanding step up from the N52, and it looks nicer. Bigger, but not bad. The eight speed transmission is faster by far. I'm a truck driver, and I drive an E93 Msport. When I get out of that truck, I'm not trying to grab no more gears 😆😆👍I want to hold on and go😆🤣
Congrats on joining the f30 family! The steering initially was the biggest disconnect for me as well but over time I've learned to appreciate the innovation and learned to read the way it handles. In some ways it's been a step up but there's still a void for that feeling of nostalgia.
After 1 week and 1,500 miles, this is a pretty comprehensive review. Subscribed! Almost 3 years in with my F30 (328d) and I’m loving it and loving modding it. Enjoy, Justin!
Justin your cinematography skills are solid, and just an observation the tone of your voice is so calming. It's awesome to see that you kept both cars!
I've owned a 335i e90 and currently own an f30 335i and I'll never go back to the e90 but I will forever have so much love for that car more than any other. It was my first car. The f30 to me is just different 🤯
I have been driving stick all my life. First car in 2000 was a 1990 Taurus SHO, then a 1999 E36 5-speed I bought in 2004, 2002 E46 5-Speed I bought in 2017, 2000 E39 Wagon I bought in 2018 (auto but had my E46 concurrently), and now I have a 2018 F30 330i w/ZF I bought in 2021. I honestly never thought the day would come where I wouldn't see myself driving a stick. But, I bought my wife a 2017 X3 sDrive28i last year and after experiencing that ZF 8-speed, I was changed. The ZF in my 330 is tuned much better than our X3 and holy cow does it shift fast. Manual mode on these things work great too. And the upside, my wife can now drive my car 👍 So, let's not call it a fanboy thing, more like an evolution of your driving experience. I'm not 20 anymore. And let's face it, trying to find an F30 in a manual is very difficult, and trying to find it in the trim you like is like hens teeth. My 330i has so many options, I wouldn't dare trade it for a manual transmission.
Looking forward to more b58 content! I had an issue on my 2016 which is apparently fairly common. The steering rack makes a clicking noise. It can be detected by moving the wheel side to side when it’s in park. If you have a clicking noise, BMW will replace the steering rack under warranty.
Big congratulations again man! You helped me a ton with my e90 330i and maybe ill hustle a little harder and get me a 340i like you. I LOVE your color choice combo interior with that red is gorgeous! I fell in love with BMW when i took my uncles E93 M3 to prom and ive been hooked ever since, i love the driving experience and the raw sound of the V8 in that
I’m heavily considering picking up a 340i, super excited to see what you do, and would greatly appreciate you sharing content around how to keep in tip top condition and future failure points and what to keep an eye on with preventative maintenance! 🔥🔥👍🏻
Congrats! You are spot on regarding the differences between the E90 and and F30. I picked up a 2011 328i and compared to our 2015 335i Msport, the e90’s steering is far better. I find the F30’s overall interior build quality is definitely a step up from the E90. Size wise when we park them next to each other, the F30 looks like a 5 series compared to the 328i. Our 335i has the beginning of an oil pan gasket leak and we’re debating trading it in on a 340i. I’m hearing that engine is turning out to be a winner. Cant wait to see F30 content, Enjoy.
Great choice man. I'm also from Michigan and had my 340i Msport delivered from Cali so I can get the Mineral Grey/Coral red combo I was looking for. With just a Stage 1 flash and upgraded suspension the car is a BEAST. Can't wait to see what you end up doing with yours.
The 340i is great option to upgrade to, almost as fast as the e90 M3 but much less maintenance problems. I have an E90 and look forward to seeing more of your F30 videos
Hey Justin just started watching your videos since I'm starting my research before purchasing my first BMW. Just wanted to commend you on the great job you do from being knowledgeable to the delivery of the content. Good work and thank you
Personally I think the cupholders in my e92 are perfect. I love the clean look and the fact that they don't block anything when in use. I've never had any issues with them and whenever someone's in my car for the first time they are always blown away by the cupholders the most out of everything haha. To me they aren't too far to reach and if I need something else for some reason, I just use the heated/cooled one in the center console. They're just big enough to hold a tall can of Arizona tea and I don't need anything more than that haha.
I always had an issue with drinks bouncing out or tipping over on crappy MI roads. Or my clumsy friends bumping them with their knees. It is nice that they are out of sight until you need them though
😂 I actually like the cup holders too because of that wow factor when passengers get in, However i cant tell you how many times ive had a passenger smash their knee into it getting out and the plastic crunch sound is no bueno
@@MigySaan ouch! Do you have an e90 or e92? For me since the passenger seat is almost always in the far back position no one has really bumped the cupholders getting out or otherwise. 🤔🤔
formula591 i have an e90 literally the exact same car as justin, but you know what if you have the e92 that might pretty much eliminate this issue😂 lucky guy
I got my 428i gran coupe m sport about a month ago and love it. It rides smooth drives smooth and is pretty quick for 250hp. BMW did a really good job with f30-36 generation. Only thing that kinda bugs me is the transmission when you let off the gas after getting on it. Tends to sit a high rpm like it doesn’t know if it should downshift or upshift. But that’s solvable if you use paddles. But all in all the cars are amazing. Can’t wait to start modifications and can’t wait to see your mods. Best of luck 🙌
i have been watching for about a year. just 2 months ago i bout my first car. it was an e92 320i. i know it aint that powerful but for driving to and from campus it was perfect for me. it would also comfortably cruise at highway speeds. and thank you justin because i did a number of things from your channel such as painting wheels, changing grilles and restoring headlights.
I owned an E90 myself, it was my first bmw. Nostalgia aside, once you get used to the drive, you'll love this just as much as the E90, the steering definitely felt better on the e90 though, I'm hoping to upgrade to a f chassis 340 or 440 next year, currently driving a 428 f36, the longevity and lack of power of the 4 cylinder turbo is my biggest issue. My brother has a 340i and I've driven it many times, I love it. white f30's with black accents(lip, spoiler, wheels, side skirts, etc) look absolutely amazing.
You heard the man! Time to step your center cap game up BMW! 👍🤣 Great choice on the B58 / ZF8 combo! I got my 2018 about a month ago and I absolutely love it! 👍😍 Congrats my bro! Looking forward to the new F30 content! 👍😎
Change is a good thing, I drove manual for many years, have a 2008 335i automatic that bought last year and absolutely love it, for me its just for touring and not so much performance. Congratulations again on your purchase. Greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽.
Congrats for the buy! I think it was the natural choice to make after the E90. I would’ve searched an M Package one over interior/exterior Colors but hey, it’s a 340i so it’s letting you space for upgrades and you start with the most powerful option of engines aside the M3.
Thanks for the review Justin, well done. Your reviews and others are pushing me in the direction of purchasing my own F30 340i. As for the guys commenting on your decision to purchase an auto over a manual, clearly these people have never had the pleasure of driving a semi in peak our traffic with a 13 or 18 speed road ranger gear box, I have and give me an auto box any day for city driving.
About a year and a half ago I was in the market for a used F30 335i. I was ready to pull the trigger since I heard the car was reliable, but then my boy who also had a 2013 335i who brought it second hand paid $4k for a new ECU after jumping his battery which fried the old ECU. Also he had to replace bunch of gaskets, oil leak issues, and the car randomly goes into limp mode. Been a BMW guy, but I need a reliable no nonsense car so I got a brand new loaded Civic. Even though I’m not a BMW owner, I still watch your videos. I hope to be in the market for a G20 M340i once I pay off the Honda. Hopefully by that time you’ll have one too so I can use you for help :)
your e90 videos got me into bmws, and i’ve been looking at buying an f30 for a couple of months now so i am very happy to see you posting videos of this!
So glad you made this purchase whoever is saying it’s a bad purchase is crazy this is such a get upgrad dude. So dope you hit a 340 to and not a 335 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I upgraded from a 2006 325i to a 2017 320i this week. Definitely agree with the steering and sport mode comments. The updated entertainment system, cup holders, keyless entry and ease of maintenance compared to the 325i make up for it IMO.
I went from an 06 e90 xi to an f10 and you mentioned EVERYTHING that was disappointing about the f series. Cracked me up. It was hard to get over the loss of the best steering and feel in the e90. I still miss it. And the xi can pull through corners like nobody’s business. But when I got coilovers (and as long as you are in sport) you get a lot if the “feels” and fear of potholes back. Stock just isn’t the “Ultimate Driving Machine”. But as you build it becomes the “Ultimate Driving Machine”. Good luck with this build. You will be happy with the choice you made. I felt conflicted at first too but in the end you will love it. GET THOSE COIL-OVERS FAST. Godspeed or BC will be just fine for the price point. It will be the most satisfying upgrade you will do to get the BMW feel back. Then you can really enjoy the pull, speed, and quickness of the car without that tinge of regret.
I own a 2016 M3 but I have to admit, I love the slide out cupholders more on my 06 E90 and that's one thing I miss about it. I might be the only one lol
No you’re not. I’ve had f30 loaners from bmw and I can’t stand the non the slide out cup holders. The slide outs make the cabin looks so much nicer, especially when their stowed away.
@@bimmerguy9274 Yeah, you can't put certain kinds of drinks in them, but I guess I don't get those sizes anyway. I've never had an issue with them, and like them as well.
I drive a manual f30 and the cup holders are stupid. I can’t shift into 3rd and 5th without smacking my knuckles against the cup. E90 drivers cup holder was awesome i miss it a lot.
I personally don't care if a car has automatic or standard transmission lol. Sometimes I don't feel like shifting and just want to let the car do its thing. Now, I so feel that people who bash on automatic transmissions are closed minded, just like car people who hate on Teslas for not being gas powered or loud lol. You can be a car guy and go for comfort and not performance. But the new whip is so beautiful 🥰 I hope to see a detailing or wash video on it!
I just went from a new 2018 M550i to a preowned 2018 340i with only 8,000 miles. While the M550i made almost 460 hp, it did have mediocre throttle response so the 340i seat of the pants acceleration feels just as fast IMO. I miss some of the luxury features of the 550i, but the 340i is just so much more enjoyable to drive fast. Great review. Thanks!
In the early 90s automatics we're clunky, slow to shift and came with only 4 forward gears. These days they're way better. I've totally changed my view on the whole manual vs automatic transmission.
I bought a 2015 F31 in March and still have my 2011 E90. You ain’t lying about the vague steering. I drive the e90 most of the time and regret I promised it to my 17 year old daughter in November. I keep telling her it’s a better driver. She better take good care of it. 😢
i think the most people don't drive stick shift because they want respect from others - the most stick shift drivers like me drive it because it's way more safer in the drift and driving automatic or paddle shift becomes boring after a while but sure you're right with the performance argumentation. have fun with your f30 :)
Very nice! I have an F30 328i (2016) and absolutely love the car. Bought it CPO in 2019 and it's just a gorgeous, fun car to drive. Lots of very nice features at a good price point.
I'll be watching closely at your experience with the B58 man. I had a n52 e90 and now have the n52 in my 2011 X3. A lot of your videos helped me with maintenance with that. But I'm looking at upgrading to a X3 M40i which has the B58, also the same transmission pairing I believe (ZF 8 Speed). Don't listen to the 2 people man! This is the evolution of car ownership and I think you made a fantastic decision.
Don’t worry about the two goofballs that are mad about the extra 4 inches. You already know why they really mad. Your content is great and even when my e90 is passed on, I will still look forward to your videos. Your cinematic skills are massively unrivaled. You make better content than the other car youtubers with millions of subscribers and nobody even realizes it.
Making me want to upgrade but I'm still not ready to let her go. Maybe in 5 more years. Hopefully by then you would have made enough videos to mentor me through my F30 journey. Thanks for all your work, this is an excellent channel.
I was on the fence as well.. ended up staying with 6MT and I love it, it's fun. But part of me thinks I should've went with the 8AT. They shift so damn fast! Overall, very very pleased with the B58 though
At the beginning of becoming a car enthusiast, it is easy for most people to feel the need to get sucked in maintaining social status, but over time it's a lot better being yourself and not worrying what others think. I think you got a great purchase, I myself am also about to purchase my first automatic in 6 years, I'm tired of having long skate sessions and driving stick shift home so it's time for some comfortability in my life.
You and I have such similar car buying histories! It’s crazy 🤣 xB, E90 & now F30. I totally agree on the steering feel. I am going to miss that about my e-Baby. I would have kept her but she needs a new A/C and it costs way more than I’m willing to pay. Congratulations! I hope you and your wife enjoy the new edition for many years to come‼️
In the UK the average person has manual cars. I had a manual E90 but when I got my E92 with the 3ltr Diesel, I got the auto. For these kind of cars an auto is spot on. Since my E92 I've had 3 more cars, All Autos. Enjoy the new car!
Millä koneella olevan hankit? Itsekin haaveillut F-korisen ostamista nyt noin vuoden verran. Tällä hetkellä käyn päänsisäsistä vääntöä täysin varusteltu 320d vs. perusvarusteinen 330d. Molemmat tietenkin M-Sport paketilla. :D
@@HenkkaWRC Tällä kertaa itselle tuli 2017vm 330e plugin hybrid. Mulla ei ole kokemusta f kortin diisseleistä, vanha oli e61 535D. Mitä olen "kuullut" monelta, 3l diesel moottorit on kestäviä pitkällä juoksulla mutta jos kilometrejä on 2 litraisessa vähän tuskin törmäät ongelmiin. Itse ehkä miettisin mitä autolta haluaa. Varusteitahan on nettitäynnä joita voi jälkiasentaa jos kiinnostusta ja aikaa löytyy.
Me personally I really enjoy the tactile feel of a manual. I can't explain why but executing a clean heel-toe downshift, when you feel it or rather don't feel anything as you release the clutch but you hear the engine roar. That's a pure feeling of satisfaction for me, couldn't live without it. But I wouldn't mind having a good auto trans on a second car, the F1 feel of paddles is also nice, can't deny that.
As a petrolhead, who drives a lot and I mean A LOT, I totally understand your gearbox decision and can't wait for the day to come when I can finally afford to buy myself something this new and automatic. For spirited driving on a twisty road, sure I'd take my manuals out, but for everyday driving and inching forward in traffic....
I've had an E46 for 9 years and a E90 for 6 years and I still love the E46, better chassis feel (you kind of feel the rear axle in E46 which is really disconnected in the E90), better engine sound, higher interior quality and perfect size. E90 is good too, specially steering feel. But I'd probably not like an F30.. :P
I went from a e46 to f30, I’ve also driven some e90s as well. The steering is the one that sucks, but with a strut bar and some sportier suspension you can increase feedback. It will never be as good as hydraulic steering feedback wise but it definitely changes it
Nate depends on what your looking for. If you want something newer that’s more reliable, more spacious, and a comfortable daily driver I say go with the f31. If you don’t mind missing out on some new technologies, still reliable but a little more maintenance due to age, and a sportier feel go with e91. Also the f31 is going to handle better overall and is going to have more options when buying. I went with the f chassis because I wanted something newer and something that was gonna be easier to drive but also fun when I’m in the mood.
Gregory Montague hard to say. I am buying one of the two for the main reason. I just started a job that’s a 88 mile round trip 5 days a week. The F3x is definitely more efficient.
When I had to take my '06 325i to the dealer for a repair I was able to get a brand-new 2019 320i as a loaner, and the biggest difference I noticed was the steering. I hated it, even in performance mode. I was pleasantly surprised that my '06 still drives just as nicely as a brand-new one, and in the case of steering is far superior.
Never owned a BMW but have been a long time subscriber. One car that has been on my mind is the 340i tho. Such a tuneable and modern platform. May consider picking one up
awesome car, man! I'd upgrade the steering wheel and the infotainment over time... other than that the interior is top! As far as the exterior bits - I am sure you'll do a hell of a job modifying those :))) Congrats on the great purchase! Drive safe
In, 2015 I got my first Bmw E46 2017 I got my second Bmw E92 2020 I got my third Bmw F30 At the end of the Day, I have kept my loyalty to the Bayerische Motoren Werke LOL Congrats Justin!
You made the right choice man! You've already got 2 manual cars to drive when you feel like rowing through your own gears...no point in getting a third instead of trying something new. That's my perspective on it!
Someone who sold his 2011 335d after 5 years and then a couple months later went out and bought a 2017 440i, you hit the nail on the head. The e90 was a beautiful car to drive, but the f3x feels like a better vehicle in almost every aspect except for the steering, especially after bm3.
As far as i know in all our south African models, from 2017 onwards they do come with the Nav and the upgraded I-Drive system as standard, even the base model 318i, not entirely sure though, I've just never seen the LCI with the standard infotainment... Our 2013 335i has the standard infotainment system though Edit... Always allow the cold start to finish completely before engaging a gear😁 Once you're used to the power, either a JB4 or MHD flash is needed😁
