it was the correct call. ball was moving out of the box. his hand was placed by his head to protect himself from a potential kick. the official copa america youtube channel explains it in detail. you can even hear the var chat.
The rules: "All hands that cut a ball that go towards a goal, even if it is due to an instinctive movement, are penalties. Logic must be applied and the logic is intentionality or non-intentionality in some plays. Non-deliberate hands do not "They should be a penalty unless they are excessively detached from the body."
@@erictrevino6485the hand was away from him, making his body bigger, even if the intention is protecting his head, it doesn’t matter, his hand played the ball.
no. It was not a penalty. The rule says the following: if the ball hits another part of the player's body (such as the head, chest, or knee) and then touches their hand or arm, it is generally not considered a handball, provided the contact with the hand or arm is not deliberate and the hand or arm is not making the body unnaturally bigger. The intention and natural position of the arm are critical factors in determining whether it is a handball offense. In summary: If the ball hits a defender's or player's body and then their arm or hand unintentionally, and the arm or hand is in a natural position, it is usually not considered a handball. If the arm or hand makes the body unnaturally bigger or the contact is deliberate, it will likely be deemed a handball. Ultimately, the decision lies with the referee, who will consider the specific circumstances of the incident.
@@michguzman if that's the case explain the penalty he gave against Jamaica then 👀 The Jamaican players arm was in a much more natural position and it hit his head first too 🤯
Hercules you just lost your credibility in my eyes. It was obvious via the video replay that the ball hit the hand first. Not watching your takes anymore
5-7MINUTES JUST TO MAKE AN DECISION ON BOTH PENS WTF WAS GOING ON WITH THESE GUYS THEY DIDNT EVEN GIVE BACK THE TIME . THE CAMERA TURN ON THE REF YOU COULD SEE THAT THIS GUY WAS SO CONFUSED FOR ABOUT 4 Minutes BOTH PENS FOR ME WHAT A DISGRACE
The ref stood right in front of the ecuadorian when he handled the ball. He didnt want to give it, going to VAR was just to justify his B. S. He let the game play on until the jamaicans protested.
Off course Janaica got robbed, how the hell you can have four spanish referee. Those guys always rob.. I agree with the guy who says the referee in the Mexico vs Venezuela game was a fair referee.
Jamaica shouldn't have even been in the copa america because it is supposed to be for south american teams.and also just because the ref speaks spanish doesn't mean he is spanish
Thus isn’t the first times we have these issues even with concacaf coaches. How about Damion Lowe’s goal against USA in WC qualifying??? This should stop, just play the game fair. We know they need to full stadiums, something that Jamaica doesn’t do, but still
@elliasdigenius6541 reason I said that cuz in the English Premier league we saw VAR didn't give the right call but I saw the video with the Var referee saying it touch his hand, that Referee should be pull from the rotation for the tournament.
@@robertyoung5825 totally agree they mess jamaica up. I remember a goal that damion lowe scored against usa from a corner. The ref said it was offside but he was onside. Lol we can't catch a break
@elliasdigenius6541 well the JFF can write to concacaf expressing certain issues although I know nothing will be done but at least highlights the problem.
Ecuador team was constantly folding playing a psychological game hoping to cause the Jamaican team to loose faith and ease there aggression, natural the ref would be force to issues cards to Jamaican team or face backlash for acknowledging the Ecuador team tatics
Big topic. How many latin american players are playing in europe. Other than Brazil and Argentina. African teams and some concaf teams are sending players to europe. And i think latin americans players choosing to stay home is killing them.
Don't hide you conscience. All 3 of you on the panel knew it was a penalty. If he gave a penalty for the first goal against Jamaica which was highly questionable then this one was even more glaring. We get the message...the referee was merely trying to ensure that the South American team advanced at the expense of Jamaica. The JFF should have protested and make a formal complaint about this referee. He should never be allowed to ref another football match in his life. How can anyone with a conscience not see the obvious bias and dishonesty from this ref.
It is not a penalty. Read the rules: If the ball hits another part of the player's body (such as the head, chest, or knee) and then touches their hand or arm, it is generally not considered a handball, provided the contact with the hand or arm is not deliberate and the hand or arm is not making the body unnaturally bigger. The intention and natural position of the arm are critical factors in determining whether it is a handball offense. In summary: If the ball hits a defender's or player's body and then their arm or hand unintentionally, and the arm or hand is in a natural position, it is usually not considered a handball. If the arm or hand makes the body unnaturally bigger or the contact is deliberate, it will likely be deemed a handball. Ultimately, the decision lies with the referee, who will consider the specific circumstances of the incident.
Everybody is saying Jamaica was robbed even if that’s true Ecuador is still the winner though and between Ecuador and Jamaica all I can say is that Ecuador is much better team just take a look at their players
@@andrs824I think you should learn something called momentum. It happens in every sport when the players aren't discouraged. If they got the penalty they would have been determined to try harder and it would've been 2-2.
The simple fact is they association president's in the Caribbean are ignorant Some of the island ls have millionaires and billionaires. They can be organized and 1nperson can give the same 5 million over 4 years
Yeah everybody in the pitch was tired playing in that heat for 90 minutes. Why do they always favor Mexico playing at cooler times and they never mention that the fifa is corrupt in general 🤦♂️ Mexico playing 3 games in a row at cooler temperatures and still can’t win lol
It's not about "cooler times" it's about more people tuning in for the Mexico game, so they save "the best for last" in terms of views of the most anticipated team to watch. This should be obvious, so enough of the conspiracy theories.
They saddest part of all.this GOMEZ... woul have done a complete 720 if that was USA vs Ecuador... get outta here ! And the lady kept saying you didn't get the call so move on... I could accept that if there was not VAR and he had 1 chance the may the call... The Caribbean need to leave concacaf MEXICO, USA, AND CANADA CAN FORM A NEW GROUP AND THE TOP TEAM QUALIFY, RESPECTFULLY
You make your own luck Jamaica were tactically inept due to the manager’s defensive position until we went behind by then it was too late . I think a JPL manager would do a better job
I mean they got robbed the pk but even still would’ve been 3-2 regardless, Ecuadorians were doing more anyways, more shots on goal, more goals, Jamaica had 4 fouls Ecuador had 0. I say shit played out as it did haha
Jamaica could not win that game, they were winging it. Jamaica will not see another World Cup and till they find a game stile of their own. If the got that penalty and if I did score then the game ended 3-2 . No game plan , grown men can’t take canner kicks. Smh. Get a all school boy team and train them for 4yrs playing together that should be the next plan and last we need a number 10 like Boyd to bring back the fans.
The simple fact is they association president's in the Caribbean are ignorant Some of the island ls have millionaires and billionaires. They can be organized and 1nperson can give the same 5 million over 4 years
