We Form Up Like A Real Army - Bannerlord 400 Player Battle 

Exactly my thoughts and what I tell the soldiers. There’s moments in the battle I look the down the battle line. 1. It feels like a proper battle 2. I can’t even see the end of the battle line, leaving me to wonder what’s even happening on the far flank. Which is a cool feeling. Thanks for the comment brother

@@Benoniyoutube Oh, definitely! Especially in the first battle I was convinced that your flank,being outnumbered as it was was going to slowly cave in while the right pushed but the completely opposite happened. And you just can’t tell because there are too many people

Exactly! It’s great these battles are growing so much. The in-battle feeling is really awesome And unique

It's like I'm watching the evolution of mass melee combat in real time

How can I get involved

I do feel like an NPC sometimes :)

Aha :P

@@Benoniyoutube plot twist: the entire bannerlord community is an ai made to deceive benon into thinking hes playing with real players

Nut twist

Soon we'll have AI mods where you can actually do that... It picks up what you're saying through voice and your army responds to your instructions.

You know what, you’ve hit the nail on the head. Without that sense of preservation is exactly what is wrong with these battles. I appreciate the comment! I hope you enjoy my future videos :)

@@Benoniyoutube Hold the line shield on while charging. It will make a huge difference. Slow, but deadly.

this was amazing, and i think shows a lot more closely how real battles actually went on, it is hard to keep formation in a game, but you get a real idea of the importance of officers, order, formations, the pressure of numbers, or how devastating would it be to out of nowhere your formation gets attack from behind by cavalry, honestly im in love with this mod lol

Not to mention how ridiculous high armoured these people are. They look like a entire regiment of nobles due ultra expensive full armour. No peasant would have anything remotely close. Also the damage are are fully jancked. Sword vs armour? Lol.

@@user-vi6lg5fk4k Its a game, obviously its going to be unrealistic at some level

We can only Hope they do !

Some body said it!!!

When 2 solid lines slam into each other and the camera zooms out and the battle has somehow become a mile thick and every single person is fighting 1on1 kill me

I’ve said this shit for more than a decade! 👏

I can’t watch that crap

Indeed! Something so simple but so effective :)

I think if the yellows had not gone forward without orders, or had all listened to the instruction to hold (i.e. form a line again), the charge by black would not have been effective. As it was, the yellows were in a big L shape when the blacks charged into the apex of the L, and the blacks actually surrounded themselves with yellows briefly, which would ordinarily have had a bad outcome. However, the blacks seemed better at fighting and so, even though the yellow leader had several blacks backs exposed to his sword for a few seconds, there wasn't enough time to take advantage of it because the blacks beat most of their yellow opponents very quickly.

@@greatbriton8425 The surprise factor was very important too They were on the defensive with large round shields and suddenly feign retreat and charging right away with full force really was a masterplay Really gg to them, their discipline and fighting skills won the day

@@Benoniyoutubeit was (intentionally or not) an actual historical maneuver.

​@@thebigenchilada678the good ole feigned retreat

This.

Hannibal's crescent is more involved and spans an entire army, but this is a feigned retreat into a charge that worked very well. Love that we're all learning more about historical battles to apply to this game🙏

Also love that it is the roundshield faction doing this, as the false retreat into counter charge was a very common tactic in Scandinavian warfare between 500-1200 after christ.

Reminds me of Battle of Hastings

@@joeflame1130 same :D

Aye! The banners completely change how we fight! I remember before we had them how hard it was to rally. Keep an eye out for a new video I’m dropping soon. Some really strong banner team play. We also have a score between all our clan, who can capture the most banners

@@Benoniyoutube as did the warriors of old. with Rome (according to legend) doing a howl campaign to get one back.

The faith you had in the colours helped you strike down your foes, Clearly.

Speaking of colors why your clan has troops with yellow and troops with red, does anyone know?

@@IRON_KING_KNIGHT Mb for not replying but basically BRE can bring loads of players to the point we can have multiple units. The different colours you see are the heraldry of each dukedom. Benoni commands the Aquitaine footmen (yellow and blue soldiers)

@@zanderman4059 it’s alright brother some people don’t reply for a whole year Either way thx for answering I’ve always thought different colors mean different weapons and armor lol

@@IRON_KING_KNIGHT The Order of the Lake (soldiers in black) get unique shock infantry gear. So 2handed maces, axes and cleavers and of course archers and knights use unique gear as well. But yeah for the most part men at arms use the standard loadout of sword, shield and spear. You can also replace your sword with a 1h mace or 1h axe if its your preference.

this but stretched longer and people just tapping in and out for days

And they all play in first person unlike these players who have the full advantage of third person.

​@@drejade7119 I remember watching a video of a first person soldier once and a Knight with helmet, the soldier can't tell how many people the enemies have in the backlines as he only see what's infront of him and he sees a sea of people.

At least 50% of any ancient troops were actually logistic troops, to carry food and supplies. (Not sure about modern army’s proportion) But imagine 1 million men fighting a single battle in ancient China. That was still like half a million men ACTUALLY fighting

@@napolien1310and if you’ve ever been in a big crowd, whether leaving a sports stadium or being at a concert, you can really see how you only see what’s going on right in front of you. You have no idea what is happening at the other side of the crowd or how many other people there are.

Certainly I would too! Some battles are more realistic than others. Then again, I’ve never seen a real battle aha.

Most skirmishes atleast to my understanding caused less than 50 deaths before a side buckled and fled. However this is before Medieval times. Also the men actually worrying for their lives was a huge factor, seeing a well equipped and uniform enemy was like a death sentence to engage which caused much of Roman success. However if it is defending a home town or such where morale is high they usually would fight to the death, so those skirmishes/battles are usually the ones we know of today. " Kings and Generals " got alot of history on this subject breaking down battles to be understood.

Being the banner holder implie so much responsability and it now important to protect him as it is your way to regroups to your chief and you cant use shield.

Write down an elaborated idea surrounding that and send it in to a network. I mean why not? Fun idea.

This happens so often! Especially now we have 400 soldiers. You can really feel like your winning only to realise the rest of the line has broken!

Try that with WoW players and you'll have 5% at least pull off a Leeroy Jenkins. Try that with MOBA players and they'll kill each other for the "best" spots.

Same in War of Rights in a regiment. Players listens to the officers and do what they are told. Wish i could join a "regiment" in Bannerlord but first time watching these kind of videos. Didn't even know this game had a fan base so well organized.

@@BetrayingLightthere is a game this reminds me of “Planetside 2” its a small community most people are in outfits and its this massive 100v100v100 scifi milsim game, so much fun getting into a good outfit and getting an air fleet going or making massive armor ground pushes to bases

Hello there

Thanks Strat! Means a lot. We are going to have to get some tips from your videos to apply to the battles.

This would be such a good Esport it would be even better if you had to fight with the tools your culture would have fought with example the Mongols horse archers ect and the cells essentially battania

@@user-nf8ol8tn1mAs long as “unbalanced” and “meta” stuff don’t ruin it lol.

We’re close!

We can make it happen

I’m the same! I prefer the moments before the battle starts! Thanks for the comment

Thanks soldier! It’s certainly it a different experience. Everything happens so fast once you start fighting! If kudos to the soldiers fighting, reacting when needed! If you want to join the shield wall, add one of the officers in the chat!

Ah what an honour, thank you! o7

Aha I’m glad you enjoy it :) every video I try and learn something new or do something faster. So glad people like yourself leave these really appreciated comments :) have a good day! Also, this week a 10k special 20min long archer pov is coming out! So good timing. I’ve never done archer before

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Ah your not the only one to say this. I use a different mic for playing and voiceover. But it’s still very different energy

It's difficult to be that charismatic in a stressful situation like this. You gotta maintain the temple and try to make coherent decisions in the heat of the battle, so there's little space for more charismatic and sweet talk :( I can tell it because I've been captain of a group of skirmishers/melee in M&B Warband and when shit comes down to your squad, you gotta make fast decisions. In a resume, it's better to lose some charisma at the time you give orders to maintain a clear mind so you can keep making good strategic decisions. That being said, Benoni was very supportive when things came down haha I'm not that sweet, but at the end of each battle, I gave my brothers-in-arms some pats on the back.

It is more important to stay composed and give clear commands than be emotional and cause unnecessary chaos or ramping up emotions ;) There is time for emotions after the battle. Ofc this is not the case for real combat when you're fighting for your life, but this is not such situation, even though it looks damn convincing and impressive.

Men have boxes. One is a combat box. Another is a feelings box. We might open the feelings box in conversation but never while we have the combat box open.

How do i join these or are the pc only im on xbox x

Get a life lol

I'm not sure how xbox works but if you can get mods its possible@@wjeenzy6787

Lifes about love and fun brother, I hope you are happy

If you can get mods im sure you could join, im not in it anymore tho so idk@@wjeenzy6787

Thanks soldier!

Yes it was some truely beautiful shield walls forming up on this battle!

I love how important the banner is for cohesion. It's hard to appreciate how confusing the chaos could be but this really helps to visualize it.

multiplayer limit is 1000 slot server. Battles with 1000 players dont happen because community is not so active and big to fill 1000 slot server. There is also engine limitation 2048 agents/entities per map for both singleplayer/multiplayer. Game crashes with more than 2048 agents. If every player picked a horse on full 1000 slot server that would be 2000 agents per map, within allowed bounds, but add slighly more players and game crashes.. Horse also counts as agent.. There is a thread on forum where this is discussed in depth...

people playing singleplayer complain about 1000 troop limit and try to bypass that by not using horses, developers never explained why there is limit

Yeah i knew that that's why i said we will have to wait 10 years before really enjoying a battle of minimum 1 000 players with nice graphics and with people having suffisant pc conf to run it as the game.@@user-bh6kf9lg9m

@@user-bh6kf9lg9m I think you missed where they said "in 20 years". In other words, they want to skip ahead to when these limitations are surpassed.

I think I know what you mean. The footing does actually have an effect. Your character either has his right or left foot forward. Which wry slightly effects how you swing . ;)

That might be something the next game can implement using AI generated contextual animations. As it is now it just isn't that practical I think.

@@TheGenericAssasin yeah, sounds insanely difficult to pull off so it's easy to see why it is as it is, would be mental if something like that could ever fruition

@@ChilledoutDevil It'll definitely happen, it's just a question of when. ML tools are going to completely reshape video games over the next 30 years or so.

"different WASD and swing-direction inputs" if I understand u correctly Morrowind tried something like that, but it was not very effective Apparently, at least I've never heard anyone say it was good?

Hey dude some good advice. What do you mean by the 5/7/10 ? Sounds interesting. Regarding the front line. They should of kept their tight position and the back row manouver left/right. But half our soldiers miss the training session where we practice this. Appreciate the comment !

@@Benoniyoutube what i mean is if while forming you tell them to make a 5 man front then 5 people line up. Everyone makes rows of 5 covering down behind the front 5. This allows the front 5 to know they’re the front line. Or Vice, the back two rows knows who the commander is talking to and that they need to break off and cover left. Instead of the gaggle that occurred.

​@@steffens260Couldn't make it more confusing or complicated if you tried 😂 Nobody speaks in that language - the way you coordinate people is to split big groups into smaller ones, and each one has a designated position and task. So if the 1st group fails for whatever reason, you simply tell the 4th group to take over or whichever one is the optimal for the task. If you want your individual team members to decipher where each of them should be, you'll end up with a chaotic mess of people overlapping.

@@ChessJourneyman that’s why you don’t give them specific positions to be. If I tell group 1 (7 people) that they are the front line, then they don’t need to know who’s first second third etc. they just need to form a line in the front. Everyone else roughly gathers behind them. Doesn’t sound specific or complicated at all.

It definitely does, it’s a slow burning masterpiece.

It’s great fun to play too!

Aha that is a good idea. It’s very hard to get the troops together once the fighting does start! But realistically in a battle they wouldn’t have headsets

Definitely a good thing :) the more we play the better these battles seem to be getting!

ok, so im fairly new to the community of the sword, but here's why i think spears are normally a bit trash in games: psychology, in game u never actuly die so one charge in and fights more with weapons than shields. in war, you only die once. so you would fight way more with ur shield than ur sword. even horses would not actually, willingly run into a wall of pikes. which is why they where used to harass, flank and chase down the enemy once routed. so real men fighting would charge but probebly not rush in head long. as they get closer the front rank starts slowing down, and gradually the momentum is lost. most battles would probably have been a stand off, with men tossing projectiles and move in and out of the moral tension zone to strike, which is a helluva risk. so in real battle, the longer ur weapon, the closer to ur own line u could stay while still striking at the enemy. not only is that range advantage a huge factor 1v1 psychologically, im sure it gives the combatant a bit more confidence to strike. becouse they dont have to get so far away from backup or quite so close to the actual enemy. as for making spears better in this game, IDK, faster attack rate and stabs only for spears, helberds could have thrust and over hand only. maybe with overhand being able to strike through allies. its beleved they where pretty much used this way in actual battle, the second line striking over the first. hence the pollaxe, pole but poll or crown of the head, at least according to some.

Execellent question! In the BRE you’d be placed in either the infantry or archer divisions. Cavalry is a very sought after position. If you can imagine 200 players on one team with only 15-20 cavalry. It’s hard to cater for everyone. The longer and more loyal to the clan you are, your path may eventurely become a mounted sergeant or a squire to a lord. Effectively there is a waiting list.

U dont get to join and lead my friend.. u have to join the Bretonnian clan first and than grind... to become a leader takes time, commitment, charisma and loyalty

@@kiramilovanovic443 Thank you kindly for your comment Kira, i understand what you are pointing, just because of that i mentioned "..maybe become the leader..." (it is the ultimate goal and a long way)... Men are living with their dreams, isnt? :) Have a nice day.

@@sonererucar3247 didn't mean to be rude my friend... you just said it like it's that easy... i'm just saying it doesn't work that way... but if you want you could join and give it a try

@@kiramilovanovic443 np, will give it a try soon (i hope)

Thank you for your great comment. Anything you can do to spread the games epic battles to more people Is always brilliant! Thanks again and glory to the empire!

Not only peasants 😀

Aha thanks! Get saving for an upgrade and get in the shield wall! :)

I'll be there for you !

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Hard to do mid fight with all this chaos. I can understand why an outsider would think otherwise though

They definitely feigned retreat, formed a proper shield wall, and pushed straight through the fight, separating Benoni’s line. It’s a combination of both the feigned retreat and the penetration of the center tactics, both of which are among the 8 classic military maneuvers.

Exactly! Best we have in gaming

Aye the VSC are strong adversaries of ours. We have since acknowledged this move and try our bests to counter it

Glad you found it! Check out all my recent stuff! All great and edited for your pleasure

@@Benoniyoutube you’ve convinced me

@@Benoniyoutube how do you record btw, OBS?

Nvidia shadow play. All modern nvidia cards have it already installed! It takes up nearly No cpu power. Whereas obs is very consuming. Top tip!

@@Benoniyoutube oh wow I didn’t know that, thank you 🫡

love the vidya as well.

Hell but I really need to get a gaming pc. Mine broke about 6 months ago.