What 4J Studios Understood That Mojang Doesn’t... 

This video got WAY more attention than I expected and that also means a lot of people have been asking why the video was so short 😅 This video really wasn’t meant to be a typical Minecraft RU-vid documentary but a shorter more straight to the point 4 minute video Thanks for watching and leave your comments below cause I do read all of them :3

4J Studios knew something Mojang still doesn't know to this day. They knew how to make a actual high quality console port that doesn't make you die from nothing :)

I always though 4J Studios put more love into Minecraft than Mojang ever will.

So in summary, what makes Console better than Bedrock is -better graphics -more world types (amplified + custome flatworld) -inbuilt mini-game modes

Bedrock is literally just pocket edition but ported to everything

I feel like console edition has better textures, or maybe that's just the nostalgia.

i will still never understand why bedrock is built over pocket edition…A BUGGY MOBILE GAME…over the better fleshed out console version….

The console versions also have one thing that Java/Bedrock didn't, manual saves.

Personally, I think they could’ve made Legacy cross platform, if they made some changes it could’ve happened

What I miss most about Console Edition is the tutorial worlds. In addition to getting you started on the basics of Minecraft, they were a great showcase for what was possible to build. Just thinking about the original Xbox tutorial world is really nostalgic.

Just the fact that they put a tutorial world by itself shows how much effort 4J put into the game in comparison to bedrock imo

I agree, Minecraft console edition is the best game on a technical level that’s unmatched from bedrock’s terrible mobile version, it will never truly see its full potential because of dealing with mobile platforms!

Surprisingly they never touched on the UI and UX. It’s very apparent Mojang doesn’t know what a controller is by using the interface in bedrock

I miss the way 4j did menus. I struggle a ton to navigate the Bedrock Edition menus, crafting is a nightmare. I miss the old days.

I grew up with ps3 minecraft and TO THIS DAY THAT IS THE BEST VERSION OF MINECRAFT

"because we already knew that" caught me off guard lol

I’ve made peace with bedrock since it came to Xbox in 2017, but legacy edition will forever remain the version of Minecraft that is most important to me. It’s also crazy how legacy edition is not very well known within today’s younger Minecraft audience.

Oddly enough, despite growing up playing pocket edition due to a lack of a PC, I always found the Xbox 360/PS3 variants to be the most nostalgic to me. Maybe its the fact that a lot of youtubers i watched played on those versions rather than Java edition. Idk

The shading and old textures of Console was so good we need a Java mod to put those shaders into Java

The Mario world on the WiiU Minecraft was one of the best things back in the day. Really loved that version.

The pixelated 4J, mojang and Xbox live logos are just pure nostalgic Just booting up the game and the first thing you see are those logos, didn’t mean anything back then but how it hits different

Actually I think Java is already stopping being the main version. When you play bedrock the title just syas Minecraft, but on Java it says Minecraft Java.

my hot take is that xbox 360 is better than an RTX 2934023948203498240398 92381203498109482309482048203GB RAM CORE i192308129312 PC . i booted up a world on 360 superflat with 7 layers of tnt and lit it up and suprisingly it didnt crash

a shame that us console players have to play bassically a port of a mobbile game on our consoles, all the consoles together and mabye even pc is a great idea, as long as it is built using legacy as a base, but phones will only harm it due to developers having to lower the graphics and other stuff to make it work on phones bedrock is just pocket edition by another name in a platform where it compleatly wastes it´s capeabilities, see a new, updated cross platform legacy console edition to all other consoles may be a pipe dream, but hey, dreaming is free!

I always felt like Minecraft Bedrock looks like a mobile game

I could go on for hours about how this stupid 360 port changed my life

Can we just appreciate console edition’s menu/UI sounds tho? Like they were so satisfying and fit the vibe of Minecraft so well, I’d take them over Java and bedrock’s clicks and silence any day

Makes sense why the console ports of Minecraft are incredible, 4J also did the amazing port of Oblivion on PS3.

4j studios actually knows how to make a optimized game that WILL run on all devices. There were like 3 glitches and all of them were extremely rare occurrences

I grew up with both Bedrock and Console editions. I have very fond memories of both. But the version I love the most is the console version.

Console edition had one thing that greatly helped it become superior too. It respected java. It understood its position and did not try to be a thinly veiled replacement. It knew its place and worked well within its bounds and become exceedingly great within. It wasnt THE Minecraft, but an extension or retelling of it.

i think many problems that minecraft hs rn come from the fact that someone higher up (likely above mojangs leadership) wants bedrock and java to the equal so the can end the java edition.

On the ps4 you can easily go between modern bedrock and 'legacy' which is forever at the 1.14 update, and it looks and plays so much better than the current bedrock.

Overall, the solidity of console edition was better. When they replaced it with bedrock, they made a horrible mistake in my opinion. I think they should of made Bedrock feel and look like Java before making the replacement. This kinda reminds me of the 1.9 Update, and how it split the community when it came to PVP. Overall, so far I believe Bedrock will never replace Java Edition until they decide to make a move to fix that issue. And that's likely never gonna happen now because of the choice they made back when they replaced LCE, all we can do is wait on them, or the community makes an alternative. There is actually been some work with a decompilation of legacy console edition, so I can see a revival of it. I saw some netherite mod for it, and a mouse & keyboard mod, so yeah, do what you will with that information.

I really like Minecraft Bedrock on PlayStation. I know people say it’s bad, but I’ll still be playing it for years to come

The part where you mentioned that anyone who grew up with Legacy edition can recognize screenshots taken from those games, mmm absolutely brilliant. I grew up on XBOX 360 edition and could tell apart by the shading and saturation if it was XBOX ONE, 360, other, mobile or Java. I have never seen anyone point that out before!

Honestly in disbelief rn and what I’m wondering is cuz c814 got kicked out did 4j get abandoned

Console Edition always felt like it was stuck in time (in a good way), they weren't getting much mob and item crossover and the color tone being closer to the beta versions makes it a good time capsule without having to actually use og Java Edition.

Fun fact: 4J makes smashing ports consistently, for example Perfect Dark for the Xbox 360.

Honestly, console Minecraft n' Java around that time was peak Minecraft. I really miss those older versions, man. I miss when Minecraft was fun for me and when I had friends to play it with. Now they've all either drifted away, aren't interested in it anymore, or just can't find the time.

As a PlayStation user, the best thing about the better together update was being able to move worlds from your PlayStation 4 to PC, and with the option to transfer PS3 worlds to PS4, i was able to move some of the worlds i have stored from back when i was a kid and archive it to my pc, forever available for me just go back and re-experience childhood memories. Yea, it feels different, but still a good way to preserve memories.

So beautifully put in such a short video, thank you for expressing something I too have noticed but never been able to fully articulate myself.

Bedrock had its name changed to just Minecraft cause Bedrock is on more platforms and they wanted people to know that it's cross play on all those platforms cause its just Minecraft. And Java got the Edition cause its a PC thing.

you cant explain, but you can feel when a game is made with love I just randomly installed Minecraft in my old PS Vita, 480p, 30fps and struggles to generate world, but I had more fun and have been playing it more frequently than the world in my pc with 110 fov, +100fps and shaders

There was a certain magic that happened when playing on the OG Xbox 360 edition of minecraft... From the music to the earliest blocks, it was truly an experience especially with friends

minecraft nostalgia heads will convince themselves into thinking things like no FOV slider was a positive thing

Been playing 360 edition before I go to bed. The feeling that game creates is very unmatched, I can’t even put words to it, I’m just glad I can kinda revisit those days.

man loved 360 minecraft playing with friends after school making friends in school over a game.

good video! 👍 I just think java doesn’t necessarily need to be the main version forever, I think if they did another version but that was actually good and not made for cellphones it could replace java and make everyone happy aswell

First time finding this channel and man this was a good video. Keep on making bangers like these! ❤

While I love bedrock edition, it's the majority of the player base's version and allows for crossplay which is huge, there definetly needs to be some more stand out features. You have snowy trees, the cauldrons, and the wither which people love. But apart from the bugs being fixed ofc, one thing they need to do is have like tutorial worlds again and make them specific to each platform on bedrock edition, maybe with skins as like a distinction.

I feel like you should have gone more in depth with this video. Give some examples and go into those examples and see what they did right from a user, gameplay, and game design, perspective as well as a player perspective. Go over the different ways 4J split from majang and the ways they stuck to mojang. Maybe make another video on this topic in the future that goes over the strengths that are present in LCE while acknowledging its faults and the bugs that could be considered worse than bedrock. Great video overall I just wish I went more in depth on the points being made because otherwise it feels more like a nostalgia trip.

my switch broke a while ago and i had to replace it. thing is, i had the 4J console minecraft on it and since it'd been removed from the e-shop i couldn't get it on my new one. really sucks because that version was so much better than bedrock despite the lack of updates past 1.12

I’ll never forget the first time my world got updated to bedrock and i literally become nauseous, lmao. Still I just can’t play Minecraft with infinite worlds, I find it really pointless, I’ve given up waiting for it to return and the methods to make one manually seem really complex. But I also want the new update content so I can’t convince myself to play the old version so I just lost the will to play completely.

I was shocked that customised worlds was console unique the first time i played bedrock

Honestly, the weirdest thing for me is that Bedrock runs better on my computer than Java which is the opposite for most of my friends.

Amplified and customized superflat worlds are something I wish Mojang brought back, along with the ability to make FIREBLAST wands on anvils

My first experience with Minecraft was on Xbox 360, all the way back in TU1. I also played the game on a CRT, because that was the gaming TV in our house. We had a big flatscreen, but that was for movies and cable TV only. I'll never forget playing the TU1 tutorial world on that old grainy CRT, a true feeling of nostalgia like no other. I was a kid back then and I'm an adult now. Even playing old beta versions of java just doesn't compare in the slightest for me. I miss the old days dearly.

I always get nostalgic for the old console games, it is surprising to think how they werent around that long

There used to be a bedrock experience way back when it was pocket edition. There was something amazing in the early days of playing it on a device that fits in your pocked (like versions 0.2 - 0.10)

As I watch this video, I think about the good times I spent with my brother but as life goes on things change, he plays GTA, but I still love to play Java and XB1 Legacy edition. I will always have a spot for these games in my heart. Also, I am playing this version right now on my 4 year old world and I'm going to try to make it 5.

Great video bro. Nice concise and straight to the point.

6 years ago nostalgia hit

I some times try to play bedrock on my console but when I do the menus are really slow and the game is really laggy. Makes me wish i could still play legacy edition.

Legacy edition is probably the second best way to play Minecraft. The crafting table felt so organised even tho it didn't had by default the way you were supposed to find recipes on your own but fun fact you can actually change that by the settings! It had the mini games , you could custom your own rules on them and indo your worlds too. It had mash ups worlds for FREE! and you could actually play them and do stuff on them they even had unique music to them while you were playing . I remember playing the Fallout 3 mash up and the Christmas one . 4J studios did so many things to the console edition and i am happy they were like this . I just wish mojang hires them again to make it cross platform the way Legacy edition was .

seeing that one frame of the tutorial world just hit me like a ton of bricks

bedrock really only has the advantage of super easy multiplayer, but even that is hardly an advantage

I wish Console edition became bedrock instead of P.E edition becoming bedrock ( but Ik that was probably impossible due to compatibility with mobile) , or they could have just made an entirely new version of the game for bedrock from the ground up instead of just building it over pocket edition. That would have probably fixed a-lot of the issues regarding lag and the game feeling like a mobile port. They also should at least add mini games , custom world types ( super flat, amplified, biome size changer , ect ) , and a way to manual save/exit without saving/ turn on and off auto save, and tutorial worlds . That way bedrock could at least have the features from old console edition that are missing.

Minecraft is already the most popular video game of all time. They did it. So why are they trying to make Bedrock and Java the same? Java should stay its own thing and Bedrock should go into a different direction. I think of it more as a diversity of the game, rather then a “of this version sucks imma play this version” cause that’s not what it should feel like.

i first played minecraft on console and it will forever be my favourite version (even though i like java as well) + ur so real for the bedrock slander

I never forgot custom superflat, it was my favorite thing to do back then.

I remember when the console edition had the minigames, the voice chat and the tutorial maps (with easter eggs) it had a charm

Now this is an intro that pulls one in to a video!

Bedrock doesn’t suck bruh how much of it have you played? The one bad thing about it is it looks a little oversaturated. I’ve played for years and never had issues with bugs.

Well, not everyone can afford a good pc. Java is incredibly laggy if you dont have a good pc, and bedrock is the version that fixes that. Apart from the "bugs" its an alright edition

As a bedrock player who plays on ps4, im so happy that there's an option to play the old version of bedrock that had those minigames. Just to play some good minecraft every once in a while.

I agree to a point, if whats slowing down updates is that the game cant run on phones i, a mobile player, am fine with them changing direction with pocket edition specifically if it means good updates for everyone else, but I think that bedrock edition is perfectly fine minus the bugs of course

I will die on the hill that the console editions were the best versions of Minecraft. You can have your own opinion on that, but I will always love how well 4J made those versions.

One thing I always liked doing when I visited my friends was playing Mimecraft on their PS4 Our worlds never lasted long, but it was still a really fun experience

i think it's also impressive how the old console versions still managed to match java quite well in places where it did matter like redstone for example redstone on bedrock is so annoyingly different than java. so many of the more technical bits have been shaved off. quirks like pistons releasing their blocks when powered quickly, or quasai connectivity where pistons think they're 2 blocks tall like doors just don't exist on bedrock, making certain machines either much larger, slower, or impossible but 4j actually took the time to force a lot of those quirks, so often times a machine built in java would still function on console, unless it was one of those incredibly technical machines that opens a door 1 minute before you even press the button when consoles were forced over to bedrock i was genuinely devastated when i went into my own redstone world and most of my machines didn't work anymore, flying machines jittered back and forth because they couldn't spit their leading half forward, piston doors i had reliably down to memory stopped working ,i actually remember tearing up a little when i learned that jeb doors didn't work. and even things like simple staircases popping out of walls and floors got messed up because of different redstone parts on bedrock changing to only check if they need to do something every other tick but some read even number ticks while others only looked at odd number ticks, so they can just miss each other completely if a redstone pulse isn't slowed down and it's such a shame that bedrock redstone is so limited because it has a good amount of it's own quirks that'd be incredible, like waterlogged redstone or moving containers with pistons but instead, building redstone in bedrock feels like it's just the tutorial for redstone before the curtain drops to reveal the complex stuff that allows things to really go wild, except the curtain drop never comes

I missed Customizable Superflats. Or I should say EASILY customizable superflats. You CAN still customize them in Java, at least, but it was more intuitive in Console and older versions of Java.

Also can you make that one dog minecraft mod? (I frogot what its called)

The demo on PS3 is what originally got me into Minecraft back in 2013 and I honestly really hate how Bedrock ended up using the Mobile version as the baseline because Bedrock would have so much less hate had the legacy console versions as the basis

That nostalgia hitting hard now

I think the fact that all the modern Minecraft versions are all the same. Back in the day thanks to version exclusive features. There was actually a reason to own multiple copys on multiple platforms. It made the game more exciting.

I remember in 2017 how dejected me and the rest of console edition community were about the switch to Bedrock. The console editions were so good, ran well (in the later years at least) and still look amazing to this day. Bedrock will never cut it and while I love Java, I'll always miss booting up Xbox One edition and inviting a few friends to play the battle minigame. I kept playing console until 2021 but I still wish they continued to update it.

This is the year i first really understood the fact that bedrock is literally just an updated pocket edition. I've nearly always played java, so i've never really had to contend with that fact, but now that i do know it, it has just made me unable to see bedrock in the same way again. All of the issues in bedrock make so much more sense and makes me a bit frustrated about the better together update. I _used to think_ it was a good update that it would make it so more people could play together, but apparently all it's really done is lower the quality of everyone except java players' games to the level of pocket edition.

With add ons being more supportive in bedrock plus updating to support more game interaction experience with add ons we will only see better ones over time and being able to update the game still having the add ons working without crashing. Java you would have to updated all mods and hope the people that make them get them updated or your stuck on that version of Minecraft. I love Java but with shaders coming to bedrock and hardcore this is a huge step forward.

The bedrock edition of the game is considerably better than the java edition, java's only reason for being relevant is an heavy support from the community. The same amount of work given to the bedrock version would benefit everyone significantly more. Java can barely run without external mods launchers, let alone play with friends without using external tools, it's "less buggy" because most of it's code is redundant and simply dumbly designed, to the point where the game isn't optimized enough to run correctly on modern hardware. In bedrock you can in vanilla extend the render distance to 64 chunks. 64. chunks. The debate between theses two version is sterile though, as most peoples will be biased by nostalgia along with a poor understanding of how the game is coded, but good luck playing java the day modders aren't there to do their jobs.

Your take on bedrock is underrated and I couldn't have said it any better. Thanks for bringing light on this.

Console minecraft and minecraft 1.5 will always have a special place in my heart

Honestly, everybody talk shit about bedroom edition and yeah, it's a worse version but it's also the only version that's cross platform Meaning those of us who want to play with friends who do not have a PC have to play that version and if you're already starting worlds on Bed rock you're going to want to keep on working those worlds even if you're only using that version so you can play with your friends

Old console minecraft is just so much better than modern day bedrock. The old textures, short view distance, simplicity just had a vibe that was unmatchable.

I honestly agree. There are so many aspects about bedrock that make it damn near impossible to create full parity with java. I wonder what people would think about having java and bedrock having different mechanics/takes on certain features.

The change in default edition was a Microsoft change

my dad has xbox one edition that hasnt been played in years that still have my old saves on it!! (and my old wolves and cats) he lost the disc tho :(

I completely agree with the aesthetic part. I own both Java and Bedrock but the UI of bedrock is so much worse (essentially they just ported the mobile UI onto pc). I used to have the Xbox 360 version and it was very well stylised and so iconic that I get nostalgic just seeing it. Not to mention the input lag on bedrock and how everything you do feels 'delayed'.

I really want a texture pack that mimics the feel of console. There was something about the way the game looked that was just better somehow. I miss it.

idk whether it was microsoft or mojang that did it but, the D-Pad for Minecraft Pocket Edition was changed and made nigh unusable. And since I'm kind of an old codger when it comes to games changing things, I ain't usin' their dang joystick! So, now I can't exactly play MCPE anymore. The only other Minecraft I have is Minecraft: PS3 Edition. At first when the D-Pad changed I thought it was some texture pack that was automatically applied for whatever reason. nope! in short, I WANT THE ORIGINAL D-PAD BACK! So, ig when I want to play Minecraft, I just gotta boot up my trusty ol' PS3.

To me it always felt that the Xbox 360 edition was like java in a way say like the start of its release, it was beta 1.6.6 for the Xbox 360. It felt exactly like beta too, looked like it, and had the same bugs almost, it even seeds on beta at the time work for that version too it felt like a real port. I always felt that for terms of how like java felt and played the xbox 360 edition was like the closest to the java edition.