What ACTUALLY Happened To Every #1 Pick From The 1980's? 

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They play nothing alike, we’ve never seen Victor before

​@@Remmyrouser yep. Sampson was far quicker. Also: Bol Bol.

​@@TheCdubbleyooSampson wasn't shooting 3s and crossing people at 7'6 my guy also bol bol isn't as skilled as wenbenyama he was the prototype

If not for the injury Ralph Sampson would really have a HoF career (even thou he was inducted late) might have some couple of championship and maybe a mvp season. For me he is much better than Hakeem minus the injury. He is the first point center in the nba

Ralph Sampson was overrated and a bust

I hope she was with us long enough to see the modern warriors. Some all time dominance in those years

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​@@LockdownKshow me 1 ring of jordan. Hakeem won alone. Jordan is nobody.

​@@LockdownKwhy u lie so much ? Admiral never lost to hakeem. U mean drexler and hakeem. Shalk we call bird to sweep jordan u deranged

The Rockets had a solid record on their first championship, which actually had a 15 game winning streak early in the season, plus not so many losses. Then they coast to the finals beating the Knicks, which they got very lucky getting the benefit of the calls (I’m not even a knicks fan nor even live in ny) Their 2nd championship is they wouldn’t succeed if not for the trade of Clyde Drexler, yes it was still Hakeem’s team and they went to 6th place in the west division standings, but the arrival of Drexler made the difference. The Rockets had so many good and better solid role and bench players defeating the Knicks and the Magic. Look at the other careers of the Rockets players besides Olajuwon and Drexler. Horry, Cassel, Smith, maxwell, Brown, Thorpe and among others when they went to other teams

Nobody was going to beat Olajuwon at that point

​@@kennethpage417 your entire statement is trash and tha problem with nba discourse

Yeah it's not like Jordan had prevented Hakeem from winning a title before. He was getting beaten in the playoffs by people like Magic Johnson, Dale Ellis and Ricky Pierce.

He's repeating the NBA narrative of the time, also with Jordan back Chicago was a good team but not especially a championship favorite, especially with an aging Parish and unremarkable Perdue, they still needed Rodman to slow down guys like Hakeem and Shaq and there's not even a mention of him.

Two professional players who had no ego that’s why they co-exist. Unlike other superstar players that didn’t co-exist. Like Kobe Bryant when he became a known superstar with so much hype couldn’t exist with Shaq, when he grown to have championships his horns also grew. Shaq was the main man of the Lakers couldn’t wait to become the focal point of the Lakers, Shaq’s time will fade and he can be the top tier and Shaq will be the 2nd option. Look at Magic and Kareem no egos, the Lakers team was Kareem’s team, but when his prime deteriorated, he understood that it will be Magic’s team and not his team anymore. Same goes to the other greats, that’s why not all superteams that formed will have many more multiple championships, unless they give way and have no egos. Salute to Robinson and Duncan

They both wanted to do what was best for the team. Robinson was a good man to be role model for Duncan, and it gave them both better careers

Yup I agree with you had some solid numbers with a bottom team but couldn’t get them to the playoffs. Unlike Jordan, Bird, Webber, Iverson, LbJ and other greats, when they went to their respective teams that drafted them, the teams that were playing became playoff contenders every season Aguirre is just like Demarcus Cousins when he was on the Kings, then went downward after that

There are more players deserving to be on the HoF than Aguirre. As a #1 pick it’s easy to average double digit or even more than 20 points, on a low bottom team that is their only star, he was like Demarcus Cousins when playing with the Kings, had solid numbers but couldn’t get the team to the playoffs. Greatness like LbJ, Jordan, Webber, Iverson and among others had garbage teams, but when they arrived on the teams that they were playing in, their teams become playoff contenders every year

No question. The only thing that stopped Aguirre and the Mavs from several Finals appearances was the Showtime Lakers. And then he became the piece that unlocked two championships for The Pistons, who were unable to to get there with Adrian Dantley (who is a Hall of Famer).

Yeah like toni kukoc, and Bill walton

I agree

@@kennethpage417 A low bottom team where he is the only star? Aguirre played with Rolando Blackman and Sam Perkins. Dallas made the playoffs but they couldn’t get past the Lakers. If you didn’t know anything about Mark or the Mavericks why comment?

I don’t know how old you are and I’m glad you’re highlighting this time period and with all that said the game hit a point of stagnation in terms of TV recognition though the game had the ABA merger the mid 70’s until 1980 was like a dark age for the NBA. The Lakers were bad, the Celtics were bad and the Knicks were bad after coming from their glory days of the early 70’s so as a situation of marketing there was no big city team in the spotlight consistently and there was no repeat champion for the entire decade and most of all a lot of advertisers backed away because the NBA had a reputation of constant fighting so when Bird and Magic came along it was a shot of adrenaline because most notably they elevated Boston and Los Angeles, two cities TV and the advertisers were clamoring for and that’s when the turnaround began.

I wasn't alive to see that era but I believe the problem was the dilution of talent that came with the league expansion as I saw how it affected the game too in the mid 90s. They had to invent something and came up with the 3-pt line in 1979-80 or so, the mid-90s also tried to make scoring easier which unfortunately for the game was abused by players like Shaq.

Agreed

You bet

Depends on what we view John wall as then we could say 2010-2012 tbh some of the guys in the HOF have significant inferior stats compared to wall, I’m reaching but if announcers can make it then wall can make it as well

​@@tyblandonJohn wall is not making the HOF he just wasn't good enough for long enough to make it.

John Wall is better than Jerry West and Bob cousy

@@youngbarrel-roll4649That is a joke, isn't it!?

@@hiryxz John Wall doesn’t even have a Conference final to his name

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Had some solid numbers on a garbage team then traded pog went down and then have a championship riding a bus Demarcus Cousins was like that on the Kings, their only star player but couldn’t get the team to become a playoff contenders. Jordan, LbJ, Webber, Iverson and among other great HoF. They went to a garbage teams but when they came playing on their respective teams, those teams became instant playoff contenders every season

@@kennethpage417took the prime showtime lakers to 7 games in the ecf but ok

I don't think Hakeem played football in the 50s either, as this video seems to suggest.

@@Ometecuhtli Hakeem played, volleyball,soccer,and handball in his teenage years

Sampson is in the Hall because of his college career.

Sampson had more better numbers than Aguirre (minus the injury) with a playoff or even championship contending team, while Mark had good numbers on a lowly garbage team on that era

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Glad you enjoyed it

Thank you, finally some one with some common sense

I swear like a month ago i realized Sabonis had a son lol, not sure how I didn't pick that up before He was really great for Portland!

I agree, when Sabonis came to Portland he was not the prime Sabonis anymore, but still played great on that team, can shoot outside and inside, still have a little quickness despite his size and age, if only Sabomis came right to Portland on his prime, Drexler would already have a championship before he chased a ring in Houston. Assuming that Sam Bowie never got the injury that he went through m, plus with Drexler and a young Sabonis, the Portland will have a really solid lineup. In fairness to Sam Bowie, they said he was like a draft bust, I don’t think he was a draft bust, it just happened that he had acquired a career ending injury just like Sampson. I’m not saying that Jordan is not a better player, MJ was miles ahead a better player, but since the Portland got Clyde that’s the reason they have chosen Bowie over MJ, it just happened that Sam Bowie at the beginning of his career already have a knee issue, which the team doctor said it was okay, Bowie already have the injury when he was still in college. Bowie was not a bad selection, it just became bad because of the situation that happened, plus the way MJ played, even nobody thought that MJ would be that great, everyone knows that they expect MJ to be great, but MJ more than exceeded that expectation with his high flying acrobatic dunks. (Coming from a Laker fan)

I love your response! The sam bowie situation was truly tragic, and I agree with no one saw MJ becoming that good. I often look back into MJ's time in college and early years in the league, and I still never saw all time legendary in him! I could see him being a top player but nothing stood out as once in a lifetime greatness

But if we're talking Sabonis already at Portland, Sam Bowie doesn't get drafted by them and so Jordan comes in at #2 pick with Drexler moving to small forward and we're talking about a super Blazers dynasty with Sabonis, Drexler and Jordan. Imagine their matchups with the Kareem, Sampson, Magic, Worthy Lakers!@@LockdownK

that would of been crazy!!!!

ayy throwback!

Big Game James Winning a Finals MVP on a team with Magic and Kareem

maybe doing the 70's still deciding on it though

@@LockdownKwhy decide (just like Nike) just do it

lolll haha alright then lets do it!

Olajuwon had just the luxury of having more more good solid role and bench players than Ewing. Same goes to Robinson when the Spurs faces the Rockets, Robinson was the only true superstar on that team, and don’t have the materials and the necessary teammates to become a champion (b4 d arrival of Tim) Ewing have beaten Olajuwon in the ncaa

The problem was they tried to make them a "though" team using the Pistons model while the players didn't really buy that system and others were too hot headed (Starks) to be able to work under that system.

@@Ometecuhtli it was just unfortunate that Ewing was only the true lonesome consistent all-star on the Knicks team, unlike Olajuwon’s team

It’s true. Pat once discussed it. He was close to going Tar Heels until he saw the Klan rally plus he said he felt a connection with John Thompson. Thompson immediately became a father figure to him.

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I appreciate you G! and I am happy that you are liking the videos!

Awesome, thank you!

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Aguirre was one of the all time best at scoring in the post. And Mark Price would flourish in the current NBA. He’s the only nba player I’ve ever seen who can run at a full sprint down the court, then immediately stop on a dime and make his shots. He use to cook the Bulls regularly during the Jordan era.

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Finalllllly somebody noticed lol I have been waiting for this comment

@@LockdownK I can't believe I'm the first. I put this up figuring I was not the only one to do so!! You're welcome!! Maybe your audience aren't much into scifi?

I guess not haha. I may need to go start a movie based youtube channel next lol

Robinson is an under rated center, it just happened (b4 d arrival of Tim) that he hadn’t had enough great role and bench teammates, unlike Olajuwon who had teammates that are far way better than Robinsons’s teammates. Olajuwon was just fortunate that the Rockets team and the management had put up solid pieces that would battle for the championship

Both Olajuwon and Robinson had good pieces at the start of their careers (Ralph Sampson in Houston, Cummings and Hot Rod in SA) but both organizations squandered their chances by making head scratching decisions (what was Rodman doing in SA? Olajuwon's supporting cast before their championship was mediocre). Houston made the 1st move in 1993, great guards, dependable bench and all-around much better team, San Antonio wouldn't prosper until Duncan's arrival which was pure luck as there's no way to get that type of team with a healthy David & Elliot. Tim was also much more vocal, people criticize Lebron as "LeGM" but back then Duncan threatened to leave for Orlando and demanded a new stadium, which the people of San Antonio paid for with a city tax.

@@Ometecuhtli had no idea about that kind of new stadium. But during those Robinson and Olajuwon battle against each other on the West (the season the Rockets won B2B) Olajuwon had the luxury of having more good teammates and deep bench rosters, (Smith,Horry, Maxwell, Cassel, Drexler and among others, just look at the careers of that other players after they left the team (not the aging ones like Drexler who is a late addition) While Robinson only had Elliot which I can say another all star player. It’s just like the same as experts would say, Bill Russel always had won the chip against Wilt, having the luxury of playing with great teammates helps you propel even more. Just look at how many HoF teammates that Russel had compared to Wilt. Robinson and Olajuwon is actually equal or even in terms of playing, both players had done quadruple double stats, which is a very unique and hard thing to do, so both of them have greatness in their skillset, but in overall agility, quickness and ability I pick Robinson (only by an inch) over Olajuwon, their matchup was just Olajuwon had the benefit of having more good teammates. Robinson’s only luxury is when Tim arrived in SA.

Literally

MOST stayed in college UNTIL their junior or senior college careers. It makes a difference.

it really does

Some became draft busts because of the injury (ex: Greg Oden) Some became a draft bust because they were a prospect but never live up to the expectation (ex: Kwame Brown)

@@kennethpage417 True, and some of them had ZERO business being the #1 pick, but the prospect list was that weak (ex: Anthony Bennett)

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Appreciate you chief!

Seeing Shaq vs The Dream both in their primes would of been amazing!

Ill check it out!

60’s would be much better

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Yup I was thinking like they are twins or maybe related to each other

Oh really thanks for the info, but that guy on the video mentioned it

I appreciate you sharing this! That is amazing! I was litterally dead when I read " I take it back. I take it back. Nobody was worse than Laimbeer" my dad alwayysss is saying some stuff about Lambier's dirty play style

Hahaha I remember Johnny M. expletive words on Laimbeer 😂

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Big Game James would average more if he wasn’t on the Lakers. Some announcers even said that even if James Worthy was on another team, he would be their franchise player

James Worthy was Pippen before Pippen.

Interesting! Didn't know thay

Bill lambier had a video game???

You mean Bill Lameduck 😂

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@@LockdownK I think it's called "Final Fight"

I'll have to check it out!

Thats some lore I never knew!

Valentine's day 89

Actually going to watch that video now appreciate you

Wow didn’t know that the legendary Chick Hearn had interviewed Ralph Sampson and questioned that. This could have been another kind of “WHAT IF” Ralph Sampson applied for the draft in 82’ and went to the Lakers teaming up with Kareem and Magic, the Lakers would have their own version of twin towers, just like the Wilt and Bill era, (not as teammates) Jabbar era then the passing of the baton to Sampson’s era (minus the injury) the Lakers would surely more than dominate the league (even thou they have dominated the 80’s together with the Celts) Wished the Lakers have acquired Ralph Sampson and Len Bias played with the Celtics. It will be a much more great battle and rivalries between those two teams, even going to the early 90’s. So MJ will only dominate the mid 90’s or maybe not because Bias will be his opponent, with Lewis also not having the kind of career that had happened. Wonder if Hank Gathers made it to the nba which team would he played for? But James Worthy would still have a solid nba career and a franchise player on whichever team he went, even the great Chick Hearn and some announcers acknowledges James Worthy, that they stated even if Big Game James went to other team, he will be their franchise player that will produce a much more solid numbers, and will still be a consistent perennial all-star player

That would literally change NBA History!

Oh my. Here we go it’s a black thing as always. 🤮

what others things did you notice wrong? I'm always looking to get better. The Jordan Hakeem situation is something that we'll never know the truth because it never happened so I don't think there is a wrong answer. Its just your opinion vs mine. Here is proof about the kkk story. Patrick talks about it in an interview here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--d7R9UDUZ_w.html&ab_channel=DanPatrickShow (around 10:30) Again i'd love to know any other things you believe I got wrong so I can improve upon my content

Wow! I truly salute you. I was really taken aback by your reply. What a reply!!! I'm highly impressed. The reason behind my reply is there was no one to check Hakeem. Their PF had gone. That was why Orlando walked over them. Meanwhile, the Rockets had Vernon Maxwell that'll give Jordan some tough times. During a 3 year period, the Rockets beat them 5 times and they beat the Rockets once. Thosewerr the regular seasons though. The Rockets also matched up well with them. The only team that always beat the Bulls were the Rockets. When the playoffs come, the SuperSonics wouldn't let the Rockets advance to go play the Bulls.

I'll read the article again after Thanksgiving to note some errors that I had noticed earlier and will point them out. Thank you.

@@LockdownKthanks for the video link on the interview on Patrick Ewing

I appreciate you chief! I'll do some more research on that time period of basketball also and check out the head to head match ups! I've defiantly heard talks about what you are saying so while I may not agree haha I do need to take it into account But there is one glaring weakness to the bulls winning in 94,95, they didn't have rodman to carry the defense. so without him idk if they could take hakeem one for one. Another thing is if Michael Jordans dad death affected him soo much that he felt the need to retire from basketball, then how good would he have been if he forced himself to play through it? Would we have seen a burnt out Michael that flails in the playoffs because he wasn't mentally there?

Or Yao Ming, even with modern medicine it's still hard to be big & healthy.

Portland fans are still turning in their grave till this day but also Houston fans aren't tripping over it they LOOVVEEE Hakeem!

Yeah no. No Houston fan would be upset with Hakeem, even with MJ and his legacy going 2 picks later

​@@thebestcentaurYeah I guess so. Still having Jordan would have been nice

Jordan himself had The Dream as the center for his all time starting 5

@@BenjaminPhilipps59they actually had a chance for Hakeem mj and Clyde Portland was discussing trading pick 2 and Clyde for Ralph Sampson. Imagine that team 💀

Steph Curry would never be better than Wilt, yup he got more championship than Wilt, but Wilt got more records that still stands today, on an era without 3point shot and an illegal defense violation.

@@kennethpage417 You might believe Wilt is the better individual player (over Curry). But Curry’s era has been more important to the Franchise’s legacy.