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What Happened To Charles Oliveira? 

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Charles Oliveira vs Arman Tsarukyan just concluded at UFC 300. Charles had a tight guillotine and darce attempt while Arman Tsarukyan landed good ground and pound. There is alot of debate as to who really won, Today, we recap the fight
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@unmessable12
@unmessable12 2 месяца назад
"I'm all cool with it" Bro we literally watched you almost walk into traffic in your reaction video
@MMAChe.
@MMAChe. 2 месяца назад
Ya it took me some time to come to terms 😂
@l4game
@l4game 2 месяца назад
Bro is on "denial" stage
@Phillip-jx3dg
@Phillip-jx3dg 2 месяца назад
​@@l4gameyou're in the "idk the judging criteria" stage
@bxspade23
@bxspade23 2 месяца назад
God I love Che 😂
@TheFightHubb
@TheFightHubb 2 месяца назад
⁠​⁠@@Phillip-jx3dgif you think 2 failed submission attenps win you a fight over more significant strikes, more total strikes, higher striking accuracy %, more takedowns and more control time I think you might be the one who doesn’t know judging criteria
@DirkDiggler-ri4cw
@DirkDiggler-ri4cw 2 месяца назад
Man if Charles had submitted Arman in that guillotine with Arman’s pants pulled down... Ultimate disrespect. 😹
@_ego11
@_ego11 2 месяца назад
I feel like he would have got it if armans pants didn’t fall off.. deadass
@hardyprado4380
@hardyprado4380 2 месяца назад
Lmfao that shit woulda been crazy
@yurifrommw215
@yurifrommw215 2 месяца назад
lol
@SpitForge
@SpitForge 2 месяца назад
@@_ego11that’s actually exactly what Rene Gracie said about the sub
@Dlord1PlayStation
@Dlord1PlayStation 2 месяца назад
​@@_ego11Didn't Arman pull his pants down on purpose to loosen Charle's legs off of him?
@Ar1AnX1x
@Ar1AnX1x 2 месяца назад
here comes the horse clips
@squadabingo9113
@squadabingo9113 2 месяца назад
You called it 😂
@justina7794
@justina7794 2 месяца назад
Its so good 😂😂😂 every time he says charles its like a queue
@JobibNurmagorogan
@JobibNurmagorogan 2 месяца назад
“If you value submissions” 😭. You’re literally obligated to value submissions as per the scoring criteria. It’s not subjective, DC 😂. Saying DC is ignorant is letting him off lightly, he clearly just favours wrestling and wrestlers. Did you hear him glaze Arman’s mid takedown in R2 that Charles barely defended? Or how about him blindly backing his wrestling buddy Chris Weidmen for his intentional eye pokes? I actually like DC too, but he’d get so defensive and butt hurt anyone addressed him and called him out for his bias. Like when Cruz said he doesn’t research fights properly 😂.
@bennettfender9927
@bennettfender9927 2 месяца назад
What makes that statement weird is that DC actually has had some submission victories he’s not like Usman or Stipe who don’t use offensive BJJ at all so I don’t understand why he is downplaying submission attempts like that.
@Robert399
@Robert399 2 месяца назад
Damage outweighs failed submission attempts, _if_ they're not close. If they are close, it's not clear. To be clear, I think _this_ fight was R1 Charles, R2 Arman and R3 ?? (yes, the d'Arce was the biggest moment but it wasn't too close to finishing and Arman controlled the rest of the round even if he didn't do much damage - it was still more than Charles did)
@poneymagique5978
@poneymagique5978 2 месяца назад
He's obviously very knowledgeable, but he is suuuper biased I can't stand it. He should NOT be commenting as he is clearly influencing the audience. To me he's the opposite of Bisping, who I did not appreciate when fighting but love when commenting
@anandboss7034
@anandboss7034 2 месяца назад
He's said "if you REALLY value submissions", there's a meaningful difference there...
@angelo3998
@angelo3998 2 месяца назад
Arman won the fight fair and square that darce choke was nowhere near to finish Arman get a life
@hatemelboory7270
@hatemelboory7270 2 месяца назад
That's the first time i have seen Charles don't want to throw anything on the feet
@mani-mt8wb
@mani-mt8wb 2 месяца назад
Rd 2 & 3 he had 5 significant strikes each that's it.
@gersonencarnacion3744
@gersonencarnacion3744 2 месяца назад
No he actually did throw on the feet he just got taken down.
@hatemelboory7270
@hatemelboory7270 2 месяца назад
@@gersonencarnacion3744 i take my comment back, he just didnt want to get taken down
@Jack_80
@Jack_80 2 месяца назад
​@@hatemelboory7270nah, there were still plenty of opportunities for him to throw and he didn't. he should have fought on the feet exactly like he did against dariush. if he happened to get taken down, deal with it and try to get back to his feet and start throwing again. i get that arman is a tougher opponent, but i swear if arman had been in dariush's place when he fought charles, i think charles would have finished him inside 2, maybe even 1 that night. he almost finished him in the first as it is, and he just didn't look quite as on as he was that night against dariush.
@hatemelboory7270
@hatemelboory7270 2 месяца назад
@@Jack_80 idk maybe i am wrong but i guess he thought that he will run through Arman and maybe finish him easier than Dariush and he was close tbh, that guillotine was tight and he pulled it just 40 sec from the being of the fight
@Meechie_0
@Meechie_0 2 месяца назад
MMA Oliveria back at it lol
@exi1ity220
@exi1ity220 2 месяца назад
Arman only survived the first round guillotine attempt cause his shorts slid off 💀💀
@jdamsel8212
@jdamsel8212 2 месяца назад
Public nudity is the best base for MMA, change my mind.
@narutokyuubi99
@narutokyuubi99 2 месяца назад
Hater
@amartyakejora5451
@amartyakejora5451 2 месяца назад
he got a 300% mental boost just from "i aint passing out with my pants down nuh uh"
@SpitForge
@SpitForge 2 месяца назад
Rene Gracie actually confirmed this
@DCshandle
@DCshandle 2 месяца назад
Charles only got in that position using headbutts and head kicks while downed
@hmmwatkins
@hmmwatkins 2 месяца назад
The cope is strong with this one.
@GarryB619
@GarryB619 2 месяца назад
I love Oliveira but that wasn’t a robbery arman beat him fairly unfortunately
@Ese675
@Ese675 2 месяца назад
Nah you don't love him enough
@GarryB619
@GarryB619 2 месяца назад
@@Ese675 I just don’t wanna be biased dawg 🤷‍♂️
@GarryB619
@GarryB619 2 месяца назад
@@Ese675 unless it’s shitshat shitmaev I hate that dude. That burns fight WAS A ROBBERY no way it should have been a majority decision split at least
@Milk-vw1cv
@Milk-vw1cv 2 месяца назад
​It wasn't a robbery, Arman won, however neither fighter really proved themselves superior, should've been a five rounder tbh
@Narasthenics
@Narasthenics 2 месяца назад
​@@Ese675extremely smooth brain take, Arman objectively won, denying it is being a low iq delusional NPC, yall think mob mentality is something to be proud of.
@locrian5818
@locrian5818 2 месяца назад
We need a rematch in horse racing, it’s only fair
@GamesWithBrainz
@GamesWithBrainz 2 месяца назад
Theres no way this dude said 'im kinda indifferent about the decision' after making like 6 vids about how Charles was gonna fuck arman up 😂
@AAA-xc4zm
@AAA-xc4zm 2 месяца назад
"Charles beats Khabib" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jinmivin1
@jinmivin1 2 месяца назад
He does
@leomasis3401
@leomasis3401 2 месяца назад
@@jinmivin1 hahahahaha
@umbahanw
@umbahanw 2 месяца назад
The funny thing that Charles lost 9 or 10 times and most of them are wrestlers and people still think that he can beat Khabib or Islam 😂.
@haydenherman8656
@haydenherman8656 2 месяца назад
"he's like a buff hamster" top ten MMA Che quotes of all time
@bigda6407
@bigda6407 2 месяца назад
This is why people are hating on Charles because of fans like you who are coping hard and making non stop excuses Charles as a fighter and person is Awesome but the fans like you acting like he’s some perfect being who gets robbed when he clearly got beat are why people are hating they’re sick of hearing the excuses
@brucechencool
@brucechencool 2 месяца назад
Honestly that Gilly and Darce choke by Oliveria would have choked anyone else out.
@Onn325
@Onn325 2 месяца назад
Besides volk
@Onn325
@Onn325 2 месяца назад
Or islam
@Onn325
@Onn325 2 месяца назад
Or max
@Onn325
@Onn325 2 месяца назад
Or khabib
@norekax9715
@norekax9715 2 месяца назад
That dance was no wear near close to finish that fight. The guillotine was closer though
@redmaskruki3636
@redmaskruki3636 2 месяца назад
As long as Charles doesn't ever get tonyed then the champion still has a name.
@penismcbutt
@penismcbutt 2 месяца назад
The Champion's name is still Islam
@johnscustomsaws
@johnscustomsaws 2 месяца назад
MMA Che vs Lucas Tracy SHOULD have been the 300 co-main... Dana blew it 💯
@patternsintheivy1
@patternsintheivy1 2 месяца назад
Should've made that fight and pushed Bo back to the prelims where he belongs.
@yajobaby
@yajobaby 2 месяца назад
If I see one horse riding clip im losing it. Edit: I lost it.
@dhdhdh2257
@dhdhdh2257 2 месяца назад
💀
@CorvoAttano21
@CorvoAttano21 2 месяца назад
If a submission lasts 30 seconds and doesn’t come close to doing what it’s intended, then no it’s not the closest thing to a finish. Arman was 18-5 on significant strikes in the 3rd
@Jay77712
@Jay77712 2 месяца назад
A blocked kick is a significant strike
@arenbabachanian4809
@arenbabachanian4809 2 месяца назад
Exactly
@TheFightHubb
@TheFightHubb 2 месяца назад
​@@Jay77712 literally nowhere in the judgingcriteria does it state a blocked kick is a significangt strike you just completely pulled that out of you're ass. 'Significant strikes refer to all strikes at distance and power strikes in the clinch and on the ground' straight from Sherdog and doesn't mention blocked kicks anywhere so cope harder fanboy
@tonybirimisa859
@tonybirimisa859 2 месяца назад
Imagine being so moldy about olives losing that you blame DC
@ronho9400
@ronho9400 2 месяца назад
WE RIDING WITH CHARLES FOREVER
@Krisso889
@Krisso889 2 месяца назад
You ride his meat ?
@medsed1133
@medsed1133 2 месяца назад
He turned out to be a Zionist
@servantofallah9425
@servantofallah9425 2 месяца назад
On*
@GotMyDickInYaMouth
@GotMyDickInYaMouth 2 месяца назад
oliquitter riding you forever
@jessechavez4820
@jessechavez4820 2 месяца назад
Lmao​@@servantofallah9425
@Skyguy87
@Skyguy87 2 месяца назад
“It doesn’t matter what anyone values” yes yes it does the criteria is insanely open to interpretation so what the judges value is important, also dc is literally agreeing with you, I just think you don’t like him, also he got that job because of his mma career how do you not know that
@cardude1992
@cardude1992 2 месяца назад
Charles is really good. Arman is even better. Move on.
@dubstepXpower
@dubstepXpower 2 месяца назад
I disagree. I think it was a given day thing and given how close it was in a 5 rounder Charles would win. But I think they're very evenly matched.
@saynotoyoutube
@saynotoyoutube 2 месяца назад
@@dubstepXpower Exactly what y'all were saying after Makhachev made him tap 🥱Fact is Charles can't deal with good strikers who aren't afraid of his guard.
@Danny-lr1yg
@Danny-lr1yg 2 месяца назад
That axe kick by Arman was a thing of beauty
@johnnaylor1279
@johnnaylor1279 2 месяца назад
@@dubstepXpowerRounds 4 and 5 would’ve been more of the same.. Charles getting taken down and controlled. Likely getting finished with elbows. Arman could’ve easily kept controlling him to ride out rnd 3 but he wanted to risk it for the finish due to UFC 300. Idk how this isn’t obvious to everyone who watched that fight
@patternsintheivy1
@patternsintheivy1 2 месяца назад
If Arman is better he didn't show it in that fight. Think 1 and 3 were pretty clear for Charles.
@Ar1AnX1x
@Ar1AnX1x 2 месяца назад
Che needs therapy after this
@taetrrtot6205
@taetrrtot6205 2 месяца назад
The guillotine and the darce were the two most dominant moments in the fight BUT almost every other moment Arman was in control and did more overall damage. I genuinely think it was a close fight but Arman CLEARLY had the advantage for the vast majority of the fight so he deserves his W
@OliverOils
@OliverOils 2 месяца назад
Strike Damage>submission attempts
@JrJet7172
@JrJet7172 2 месяца назад
Control time means nothing
@JrJet7172
@JrJet7172 2 месяца назад
​@@OliverOilsthe criteria lists them the same effective striking/effective grappling
@OliverOils
@OliverOils 2 месяца назад
@@JrJet7172 sub attempts aren't as effective if they don't work imo 😂
@LunaticKing-fj3hp
@LunaticKing-fj3hp 2 месяца назад
​​@@OliverOilssub attempts are like knockdowns from punches They are pointed the highest because usually are the ones who directly lead to the ending a match someone can get up from getting dropped.
@username-jw7kp
@username-jw7kp 2 месяца назад
you forgot to mention that when boiling an egg you have to boil it for 5 minutes for a runny yolk, 8 minutes for a half-boiled yolk and 10 minutes for a fully boiled yolk. And don't forget to put your egg in ice water immediately after taking it out
@manwhohasnoname6549
@manwhohasnoname6549 2 месяца назад
Ice water is overlooked my noobs but it's the most important part
@DrewRigatoya
@DrewRigatoya 2 месяца назад
I agree with what you said at the very end. The fight was super close so im fine with Arman winning, Charles is still in the title conversation with 1 win
@michelezago8265
@michelezago8265 2 месяца назад
A dominant win*
@jdamsel8212
@jdamsel8212 2 месяца назад
@@michelezago8265 Charles only ever wins dominantly. He never wins on the scorecards (except after breaking Tonys arm)
@lukashrcek5799
@lukashrcek5799 2 месяца назад
0 views in 1 min yeah che fell off
@HaydenDenton-ht9ns
@HaydenDenton-ht9ns 2 месяца назад
As a Charles lover arman won 2-1
@fadli6443
@fadli6443 2 месяца назад
imagine getting axe kicked by someone shorter than you, learn some head movements olives
@TheFightHubb
@TheFightHubb 2 месяца назад
Bro did you sthe flexebilitiy tho? Armsn foot was above Charles’s head lmao
@AAA-xc4zm
@AAA-xc4zm 2 месяца назад
Your idol has double digit losses 😭😭😭
@lasse9553
@lasse9553 2 месяца назад
That makes Charles' prime even more impressive. Who else has ever come back from so many setbacks to become one of the weight class goats? Bisping is the only other one that comes to mind, and he has a lackluster reign compared to Charlie
@kratosofspartareal
@kratosofspartareal 2 месяца назад
So does Anderson Silva
@frankgarcia153
@frankgarcia153 2 месяца назад
All my homies hate DC
@yassermmh6772
@yassermmh6772 2 месяца назад
You mean the charles meat riders?
@NotGedas
@NotGedas 2 месяца назад
@@yassermmh6772Charles haters r literally karate nerd subscribers and failed college wrestlers chill tfo
@lolcow6668
@lolcow6668 2 месяца назад
@@yassermmh6772cope
@user-sw5wn8go3k
@user-sw5wn8go3k 2 месяца назад
​@@yassermmh6772it's getting pathetic at this point. I like Olivera, but his fans make me hope that he loses.
@yassermmh6772
@yassermmh6772 2 месяца назад
@@user-sw5wn8go3k Me too Oliveira is a great person and champion but his fans are so annoying
@Jonathan-os5eo
@Jonathan-os5eo 2 месяца назад
Caucas wrestling better than bjj simple as
@dubstepXpower
@dubstepXpower 2 месяца назад
😂that's why they always get dominated in adcc and straight grappling . MMA rules favour wrestling.
@MehdiMehdi-ki3us
@MehdiMehdi-ki3us 2 месяца назад
Bla bla bla
@walterbarros1854
@walterbarros1854 2 месяца назад
⁠@@dubstepXpower and what in mma??? never seen a mountain guy lose badly against them, maybe i didn't saw enough fights, but never seen a mountain wrestler get beat up by a bjj specialist on the ground. Grappling is a must in the game, but they are tougher, cause of their environment, their traditions and education in fighting and unluckily war. Of course they are all different animals, not saying they are gods, but they are for sure better than their opponents normally.
@TheFightHubb
@TheFightHubb 2 месяца назад
@@dubstepXpower ah yes because addc doesn't favor bjj right lmao
@BiggieTrismegistus
@BiggieTrismegistus 2 месяца назад
​​@@walterbarros1854In the UFC the Caucasus wrestlers are saved by not being able to knee a grounded opponent. They can spam bad takedown attempts and not have to worry about being kneed in the face after putting themselves in a vulnerable postion. That's the reason the Dagestanis and others aren't so dominant in ONE. Allow knees to grounded opponents and the supposed Dagastani toughness will disappear.
@PaddyIsExtremelyOverrated
@PaddyIsExtremelyOverrated 2 месяца назад
You’re being way too loose and reaching with this judging criteria bruh, how is an incomplete darce which was squeezed for 20 seconds yet did nothing close to ending a fight? Imagine one fighter out strikes on the feet, gets a takedown, 2 minutes control time, puts the opponent in a crucifix, lands 3 elbows, then gets put in an incomplete darce in the last 20-25 seconds, you seriously are saying Charles should win that round? You’re absolutely delusional
@TheFightHubb
@TheFightHubb 2 месяца назад
Charles fans are on a generational cope right now😂😂
@TheJay5959
@TheJay5959 2 месяца назад
You gotta be delusional if you think a weak 30 sec darce choke attempt wins a round when Arman out strikes him 5-18 strikes and control him on the ground for another 2mins. You can even say round one is 50/50 since Arman outstickes him 12 to 19 but the submission attempt takes prestienc imo. The truth is if Arman doesn't slip in the 1st round it was gonna be a clear 27-30.
@Jay77712
@Jay77712 2 месяца назад
Jesus christ man pause the video at 1:41 and read the criteria. Control doesn't mean anything how many times must it be said
@luciocastaldini4023
@luciocastaldini4023 2 месяца назад
it is the true. Oliveira lost round 2 and 3 ( only 30 seconds of round 3 for him , the other 4 min 30 sec for arman )
@luciocastaldini4023
@luciocastaldini4023 2 месяца назад
@@Jay77712 round 1 close. round 2 and 3 are for arman for sure. Oliveira sucks!!! ;D
@jengofetlupa44
@jengofetlupa44 2 месяца назад
@@Jay77712It means something when nothing else significant happened like in round 3…
@discobites
@discobites 2 месяца назад
It was a close fight but stop being salty. DC honestly wasn’t even that bad here. He was way worse during the Aljo fight. I had it 29-28 Arman, but lots of media scorecards had it 30-27 Arman as well (not that I’d agree with that). Don’t say there’s no arguement for it
@Jay77712
@Jay77712 2 месяца назад
There's no argument for it
@jayocaine2946
@jayocaine2946 2 месяца назад
Olivera is *not* in title contention, do you really think that he could handle islam if he couldnt even handle this?
@Cr722a
@Cr722a 2 месяца назад
That's beside the point, being in title contention means you'll get a shot at it not that you'll win 😂
@jinmivin1
@jinmivin1 2 месяца назад
MMA math doesn’t work-if this…then, that…doesn’t work in MMA, if you know MMA you should know this. And yes Islam submitted Charles already, but Luke Rockhold also submitted Michael Bisping in their 1st fight
@monsterstar2178
@monsterstar2178 2 месяца назад
Watch every single video you post man. And I always learn something new
@fenrir834
@fenrir834 2 месяца назад
Mate just thinking Charles lost does not mean we are Charles haters. A few people can be fans of Charles still and still be able to look at it a fight objectively. If by reading the rules you are going to consider a submission attempt as effective grappling, then takedowns is just as important as submission attempt if not more because it is written before "submission attempt". All the rest of stuff written in the rules is true for takedowns as well. The closest the fight coming to ending does not matter because the fight did not end there and the submission attempt caused no damage
@Jay77712
@Jay77712 2 месяца назад
The criteria says "it shall note a successful takedown is not merely a changing of position but the establishment of an attack with the takedown" so control time doesn't mean shit
@fenrir834
@fenrir834 2 месяца назад
@@Jay77712 I understand that, a single attack because of the takedown keeps it on par if not more than a submission attempt. Most likely over the submission attempt because submission attempt is supposed to be equal or less than successful takedown, and a strike adds to striking as well
@Jay77712
@Jay77712 2 месяца назад
@fenrir834 what tf are you saying none of that made sense
@fenrir834
@fenrir834 2 месяца назад
@@Jay77712 A single punch after a takedown is worth more than a submission attempt according to the rules. Arman landed at least a few shots after takedowns, they are worth more than Charles submission attempt
@Luke-ji8to
@Luke-ji8to 2 месяца назад
arman clearly won
@Ese675
@Ese675 2 месяца назад
Nah
@justinatmidi
@justinatmidi 2 месяца назад
Nope
@narutokyuubi99
@narutokyuubi99 2 месяца назад
@@Ese675you don’t watch the fight then
@MrLugine
@MrLugine 2 месяца назад
Great breakdown, just subscribed
@Exiecutioner
@Exiecutioner 2 месяца назад
You were so sure Charles couldn’t lose 😂🥲🥲🥲 I like Charles but picked him to lose. Wrestling is his weakness
@andre__z3650
@andre__z3650 2 месяца назад
Charles Oliveira is literally my favorite fighter but come on bro. You’re being delusional, why did you want to conveniently leave out the fact that arman was clearly out striking him on the feet, it was nothing crazy but he was jabbing Charles up, and some of those strikes that arman was landing where it looks like it lands on Charles guard, were partially getting through. And by your logic saying that Charles wins that round cuz he was the only one that tried to contribute to ending the fight, you can say the same for the arm triangle arman was going for. Like you said Charles probably wasn’t going to finish the choke cuz he wasn’t doing it properly, you can say the same thing for arman’s arm triangle. There is no way Charles won that 3rd round according to the judging criteria.
@keegswl5119
@keegswl5119 2 месяца назад
Did you read the judging creteria? its pretty trash but it states that more immedate impact wins over cumulative impact. As in the persin who put there opponent in the most danger of losing the fight wins. Arman never got remotely close to that vonflu you could see there was tons of space between the arm and the neck. Charles actually had the D'arce locked in which forced Arman flat on his stomach thats a late defence. Its the equivelent to someone getting jabbed up on the feet all round and the rocks the opponent. Immediate impact is always scored heavier than cumulative .
@spoonman5051
@spoonman5051 2 месяца назад
All the bias aside, this one was a legit "elite wrestler vs elite bjj" match up.
@smartfck4
@smartfck4 2 месяца назад
Why are people acting like he wasn't dropped in all of his title fights? 😂 dude was in survival mode against every decent opponent
@jinmivin1
@jinmivin1 2 месяца назад
You really have not watched any Charles Oliveira fights. Go back and actually watch them, then come back. Stay in school and keep hustling
@jengofetlupa44
@jengofetlupa44 2 месяца назад
@@jinmivin1What are you about, he was dropped against every elite opponent he faced, what dude said was not wrong.
@johannes3121
@johannes3121 2 месяца назад
COPE
@scottc2076
@scottc2076 2 месяца назад
Charles lost his killer instinct. Had arman in mount round 1 and did nothing with it
@lennaymaboyyy4848
@lennaymaboyyy4848 2 месяца назад
not true, Arman is just a very good grappler unlike many of Charles’s past opponents
@jdamsel8212
@jdamsel8212 2 месяца назад
Casual take tbh.
@scottc2076
@scottc2076 2 месяца назад
@@lennaymaboyyy4848 Charles is also 34 and has had over 30 UFC fights. He’s not the same guy anymore. Arman is good but prime Charles easily would’ve won
@shawnkay5462
@shawnkay5462 2 месяца назад
Arman is a pretty good wrestler/grappler he was hanging in there vs Islam. He is legit.
@lennaymaboyyy4848
@lennaymaboyyy4848 2 месяца назад
@@scottc2076 this is massive levels of cope, in Charles’s last fight he knocked Dariush unconscious and everyone was saying “the champ is back” yet when he fights 10 months later he’s suddenly washed
@PhilSophia-ox7ep
@PhilSophia-ox7ep 2 месяца назад
Yes, anything from 30-27 Arman to 29-28 Oliveira is within the scope of reason. I had it 29-28 Arman, but 30-27 Arman or 29-28 Charles is reasonable enough, i.e., people can make a sane argument for it.
@marcfrankoro
@marcfrankoro 2 месяца назад
It was an amazing fight and extremely close. However, even as a Charles fan, yes, Arman did win. It was close, but a clear 29-28. I think Charles will fight Gamrot next, and he will probably win. Also, Arman took the third round. You are highly biased to believe Charles did.
@zaytheprofit5477
@zaytheprofit5477 2 месяца назад
watch the video and please pause it @1:30 to read the scoring criteria lol I know everyone likes to ignore the new rules and continue to score control time and takedowns regardless but if you actually read the rules that's not how you are supposed to score fights anymore... the most damaging/potentially fight ending moments are scored first and control time is only considered IF AND ONLY IF all else is equal... I understand why everyone's instinct is to score the round for arman because he appeared to be "winning" most of the round up until the sub attempt but regardless of how much control time you have the only thing that matters is the official scoring criteria and by those metrics its hard to argue arman did anything in that round that trumps the sub attempt so unless you for some reason believe that the sub attempt wasn't legit then that round objectively goes to charles and he should have won 29/28 on the scorecards
@Phillip-jx3dg
@Phillip-jx3dg 2 месяца назад
​@zaytheprofit5477 say it again for the people in the back
@user-kf3is7bt2v
@user-kf3is7bt2v 2 месяца назад
@@zaytheprofit5477the darce wasn’t fully locked in, so the damage that arman inflicted could trump that.
@kingpen1844
@kingpen1844 2 месяца назад
@@user-kf3is7bt2vhe went limp bro still a sub attempt
@user-kf3is7bt2v
@user-kf3is7bt2v 2 месяца назад
@@kingpen1844 isn’t going limp like that and waking up like that will make the choke even worse for arman, he would’ve been unconscious, I don’t think you can wake up like that from it and still be conscious.
@stevenash7219
@stevenash7219 2 месяца назад
Rematch since Islam fighting Dustin
@spiphieboi7079
@spiphieboi7079 2 месяца назад
oliveira was different because he was getting beat up on the ground. he didn’t wanna throw because of the takedown threat. he did nothing in round 3 because olives got mauled in rnd 2. he didn’t wanna go back down there. he’s not used to getting beat up on the ground. i gave olives round 1 cuz of guile but other than that arman controlled every other part of that round. as for 3 then arman won. he did all the damage, he had all the control time. now sure he had a 15 second choke in but arman knew he was getting out of it. so he stayed there
@elg7457
@elg7457 2 месяца назад
Hate it or love it but now Gamrot deserves to fight Oliviera
@emanuelsantos5925
@emanuelsantos5925 2 месяца назад
To me this is by far the Best, realistic and professional break down of that fight. About D.C I just think he is a company man, we never know what to expect from his comments. By the way I picked Arman but I still think Charles didn't loose. Good fight.
@What_111
@What_111 2 месяца назад
A lot of the Charles haters DIDN’T exist. People nowadays just don’t like fighters who lost, which is sad.
@bobbys1308
@bobbys1308 2 месяца назад
Casuals who jump on the newest bandwagon.
@ashishdhal4614
@ashishdhal4614 2 месяца назад
Imagine hating Charles 😅
@Manuel-gt9jf
@Manuel-gt9jf 2 месяца назад
@@ashishdhal4614don’t have to imagine
@bennettfender9927
@bennettfender9927 2 месяца назад
Ik I still ride with Charles myself no excuses but he’s still my boy 💯.
@saynotoyoutube
@saynotoyoutube 2 месяца назад
charles is cool, i hate delusional charles stans. He puts on exciting fights, but his style only gets him so far.
@idrissoubee1408
@idrissoubee1408 2 месяца назад
Delete the video bro
@user-sw5wn8go3k
@user-sw5wn8go3k 2 месяца назад
No he wasn't robbed, stop coping
@benjamindover8221
@benjamindover8221 2 месяца назад
he was technically
@Aaron-bd9sj
@Aaron-bd9sj 2 месяца назад
​@benjamindover8221 no he wasn't technically robbed. 1-1 going to the 3rd. Arman won round 3.
@benjamindover8221
@benjamindover8221 2 месяца назад
@@Aaron-bd9sj technically he was robbed bc the judges scored the fight wrong
@Aaron-bd9sj
@Aaron-bd9sj 2 месяца назад
@benjamindover8221 No, they didn't. Arman did more damage than Charles in round 3. That darce was not close because Arman was belly down and his leg wasn't trapped. The guillotine in round 1 was a legit submission threat. The darce in round 3 was not.
@benjamindover8221
@benjamindover8221 2 месяца назад
@@Aaron-bd9sj were u there?
@2regarded
@2regarded 2 месяца назад
As the tennessee region representative of the charles olivera fan club, i think its wild that your first video wasnt all max holloway
@Nigel514
@Nigel514 2 месяца назад
Cope and seeth and cope again charles vs Gamrot and we move on
@Viniriano
@Viniriano 2 месяца назад
finishing a fight/round with a darse locked in and lose the round is crazy to me, especially after a period of ground control without any effectiveness from tsarukyan on round 3. that being said, in my eyes charles still on his game he just needs to work on his mental
@zmoneytmnt
@zmoneytmnt 2 месяца назад
It sucks that Oliveria could have won if his shorts didn't slide off.
@narutokyuubi99
@narutokyuubi99 2 месяца назад
Not what happened but ok
@DCdanielcormier
@DCdanielcormier 2 месяца назад
Im literally Daniel Cormier and the amount of people commenting "idc about the sub attemps, Arman controlled him the whole round" need to fucking read the criteria he literally goes over for you at 1:38
@TheFightHubb
@TheFightHubb 2 месяца назад
Yeah except Armab didn’t JUST have control time he also brutally outstruck Charles almost 4 times as many significant strikes that round and if you knew the judging cirteria you’d know damage trumps everything 🤷‍♂️
@nanakmccann
@nanakmccann 2 месяца назад
MMA scoring favors wrestling too much. Two minutes of top control wins the round every time, even against a jujitsu artist like Charles who loves guard. Because of this Charles is at a disadvantage in a three round fight. That matchup should have been a fight night main event, five rounds.
@karljonson3287
@karljonson3287 2 месяца назад
Arman and Oliveira weren't close with strikes in the 3rd fyi
@komerczka
@komerczka 2 месяца назад
He is not half blind anymore, which was his superpower I guess.
@dopaopda9088
@dopaopda9088 2 месяца назад
So, a demi god lost to a buffed hamster? Did i get that right?
@tray3483
@tray3483 2 месяца назад
bro went from saying charles would retire arman to saying it was a close fight and charles should have won lmaoooo take the L
@jovankolenovic3556
@jovankolenovic3556 2 месяца назад
Olives copium going hard
@manwhohasnoname6549
@manwhohasnoname6549 2 месяца назад
Hating on DC is uninteresting content and over played even if true
@garfrockbreadtroll
@garfrockbreadtroll 2 месяца назад
they gotta just run it back
@yatangaki6719
@yatangaki6719 2 месяца назад
Useless, Oliveira can't beat a skilled wrestler
@Luke-ji8to
@Luke-ji8to 2 месяца назад
no 💀 arman clearly won 2 and 3 and possibly 1
@mckaineguavoen7621
@mckaineguavoen7621 2 месяца назад
@@Luke-ji8toBro please stfu. R1 is clear Charles. & If you know the Judging Criteria Charles. Should’ve won R3
@jdamsel8212
@jdamsel8212 2 месяца назад
@@Luke-ji8to Charles clearly won the first round. Striking is even and Charles nearly ended the fight.
@Luke-ji8to
@Luke-ji8to 2 месяца назад
@@jdamsel8212 striking was far from even throughout the fight arman outlander charles 75-33 and the darce in the third was NOT tight. Oliveira takes the first but there is no argument for the rest of the fight
@Jack_80
@Jack_80 2 месяца назад
any title elimination bout like this should be 5 rounds.
@ChocolateMilkCultLeader
@ChocolateMilkCultLeader 2 месяца назад
People not knowing the scoring criteria is weird.
@The_Most_Hye
@The_Most_Hye 2 месяца назад
Could have easily been 30-27. Damage > Failed subs
@shutdown9848
@shutdown9848 2 месяца назад
In my opinion the only mistake Charles made is he was not in attacking wrestling, he was in defence mode, Charles should have shoot first takedown and I know Charles could take Arman down maybe not easily but he can then submit him, this is the reason Gamrot won against Arman because he was shooting first and make him tired.
@user-wk4ee4bf8g
@user-wk4ee4bf8g 2 месяца назад
You have already admitted to being super biased in favor of Charles. Damage trumps everything and Arman did more damage than Charles. Jack Slack had no issue with the decision. I believe him over you.
@jayocaine2946
@jayocaine2946 2 месяца назад
you do realize that sub attempts mean nothing and simply flicking your opponent on the arm would take the round over it?
@Cr722a
@Cr722a 2 месяца назад
Tell me you haven't read the criteria without telling me you haven't
@patternsintheivy1
@patternsintheivy1 2 месяца назад
That's uhh, not exactly how it works. Unified rules for scoring is what to type in if you wanna look em up.
@Jmrr14
@Jmrr14 2 месяца назад
In the streets, he won that fight.
@jayocaine2946
@jayocaine2946 2 месяца назад
well too bad it's a sport and not a fight smoothbrain, keep coping 😂
@yassermmh6772
@yassermmh6772 2 месяца назад
Charles went from blonde to redhead after that ground on pound🤔
@OliverOils
@OliverOils 2 месяца назад
Arman? because Charles would've gotten beaten up badly in a streetlight 😂 his style is perfect for MMA only
@karljonson3287
@karljonson3287 2 месяца назад
The cope is craaaazy
@dubstepXpower
@dubstepXpower 2 месяца назад
​@@OliverOilsArman wouldn't have been saved by the bell multiple times in a street fight.
@vrej.1
@vrej.1 2 месяца назад
No one dares to fight Charles on the ground, but Arman defeated him in his own world. This guy is really crazy. He managed to save himself from choking twice. Anyone in Arman's place would have given up in the first round. Arman is a monster
@ekayn1606
@ekayn1606 2 месяца назад
I thought Charles Oliveira won rounds 1 and 3. He was crazy close to ending the fight.
@2D_Stranger
@2D_Stranger 2 месяца назад
My issue with Charles is that he is too hesitant to pressure and strike with Arman when Charles clearly showed that he was competent enough to sprawl with Arman in certain grappling sequences. Besides, if he's the one pressuring, it pushes Arman against the cage making the successful takedowns end in the center of the octagon where he'd have enough space to play full guard with his BJJ, or worst case scenario Charles pressures Arman against the cage and just shoots on Charles then turn him against the fence.
@DTS_I
@DTS_I 2 месяца назад
We’re gonna look back on this fight in a month or two now and be like “yeah they got that one right”. Arman literally crucifixed Charles in this fight
@GrubKiller436
@GrubKiller436 2 месяца назад
Charles won round 1. Then looked like he could've submitted Arman by the end of round 2. Then ended on top in round 3. It was a competitive fight and I think Charles could've won if it was a 5 rounder.
@jacksypher3403
@jacksypher3403 2 месяца назад
8:50 the guy with the hugest bias is indifferent after ten min vid hating on DC and explaining why Charles actually won
@The.Sultan
@The.Sultan 2 месяца назад
I still give the 3rd round to Arman personally. He outstruck him and was more active. Oliviera didn’t really do anything until like the last 30 sec of the round with the submission attempt.
@redviper324
@redviper324 2 месяца назад
They need to separate striking and grappling in the judges. Have judges for strikes and have judges for grappling. Then we decide how much we value each and attribute points accordingly. 3rd round would have been a draw striking wise and a slight win for Oliveira grappling wise. It’s just ridiculous. We need to have more draws in MMA.
@yatangaki6719
@yatangaki6719 2 месяца назад
Please rewatch the fight before saying such things
@redviper324
@redviper324 2 месяца назад
@@yatangaki6719 ? My problem lies more in the randomness of decisions. One fight wrestling is valued more and another fight, it is not. I remember Marcin Held vs Diego Saunchez and then Marcin Held vs Joe Lauzon 😂. This decision specifically is not controversial. I’m just saying I’d rather have better judging criterias, and more draws.
@Senseisystem
@Senseisystem 2 месяца назад
Why are so many casuals defending the Arman decision? Oh yeah, bc the announcers put an idea in their mind and they wanna ride the train to take down Islam. Charles perpetually overlooked and underrated by main streamers and yet gives the fans the most entertaining fights time and time again.
@user-jk6tl3kl6e
@user-jk6tl3kl6e 2 месяца назад
Legend has it that Lucas Tracy and MMA Che used to go to the same gym, where Lucas didn't allow MMA Che to join his muzzing video. MMA Che then developed a deep hatred for Lucas Tracy, left the gym and decided his life's mission was to challenge Lucas to an MMA fight
@romanaverbeck7337
@romanaverbeck7337 2 месяца назад
Got people saying Arman destroyed Olivera. Uhhh no. Arman in no way destroyed Olivera. It actually was the opposite. Olivera handily won round 1 and Arman handily won round 2 however Arman shit the bed in round 3, and ended the last minute of the round flattened out on the canvas like a bitch. The judges only gave it to Arman because the UFC desperately wanted Arman v Islam 2. Hence why they offered it to him immediately after winning a razor close decision to the guy he said he’d KO in round 1. So yeah, judges are awful and Arman is not to snuff against Islam. Considering Olivera had this man at mercy several times, and he kept getting saved by the bell. Islam is gonna hurt this man after he obliterates the diamond 💎. Keep in mind I like Arman, but his performance in the 1st was good, but round 3 was just bad. Arman had top position and did almost nothing. It paled in comparison to the GnP he handed Olivera in the second. But that’s just it. Arman had some decent moments in the first( that axe kick tho) and a great 2nd but fell apart in the 3rd. Round 1 10-9 Olivera Round 2 10-8 Arman Round 3 10-8 Olivera And yes, DC is absolutely garage as a commentator because of his huge bias. It just drives me crazy because I absolutely love him as a fighter.
@evilryutaropro
@evilryutaropro 2 месяца назад
They should make a rule change so that top 3 or top 5 guys in 135-170 have to fight five rounders. I honestly want to see them run it back in a 5 round fight. I think Charles could submit him
@TimMohr
@TimMohr 2 месяца назад
Giant fan of charles.... but... he's nearing the end... epic career.... dude can always be proud of his run in the ufc...
@mehrabhasantanim338
@mehrabhasantanim338 2 месяца назад
Even though Olivs fan, we have to criticize his standing game against all rounded Grappler. He just stop moving forward and moving backward is never ever his game from the beginning.
@justinlabar980
@justinlabar980 2 месяца назад
there’s no way you weren’t laughing after “buff hamster”💀💀
@PaddyIsExtremelyOverrated
@PaddyIsExtremelyOverrated 2 месяца назад
7:15 “he did not land a single strike” that’s a weird way of saying Arman put Charles in a crucifix and elbowed him three times in the face
@opietaylor5778
@opietaylor5778 2 месяца назад
He laid there so he wouldn’t panic and get in a bad position to get choked out… he was perfectly fine.. maybe you did do aikido
@gamingthisera6339
@gamingthisera6339 2 месяца назад
2 things a fighter must be good at to defeat a Dagestani fighter, a good boxing and be good at judo/Greco-Roman wrestling
@ghassenbenhassouna7073
@ghassenbenhassouna7073 2 месяца назад
Brotha I love charles, but he lost that fight clearly, 28-29. Giving Arman R1 is crazy tho.
@caspeansea9619
@caspeansea9619 2 месяца назад
Told y'all that Charles is the most over glorified UFC fighter in history. LW Goat my arse 😂😂😂
@JBJMMA
@JBJMMA 12 дней назад
Wins over chandler, porier, gaethje, ferguson and benny, 3 of these guys are future HOF'ers shut the fck up
@cameronharper4554
@cameronharper4554 2 месяца назад
That darce won Charles round 3. If you disagree with that you don't understand how fights are supposed to be judged
@tobysmith2081
@tobysmith2081 2 месяца назад
This channel continues to prove its for mma idiots
@licencetostay007
@licencetostay007 2 месяца назад
Says who?
@artiebangz822
@artiebangz822 2 месяца назад
If it was really locked in which it wasn’t arman would be asleep in about 5 seconds not 30 seconds later, damage wise arman won 2 and 3
@mavenmaven4513
@mavenmaven4513 2 месяца назад
No
@cameronharper4554
@cameronharper4554 2 месяца назад
@artiebangz822 it was locked it. He didn't have the perfect angle but Arman was in a darce, and it was the closest thing to ending the fight in that round. Way more than the strikes Charles partially blocked.
@truperfection2479
@truperfection2479 2 месяца назад
The D’arce wasn’t in and both Arman and Charles knew it (which is why Charles stuck out his tongue for optics versus tightening it to get a tap). Charles doesn’t win round 3 after getting out struck and controlled on the ground. One desperate sub attempt for 30 seconds doesn’t outdo that (which wouldn’t even have happened had Arman not tried to finish the fight himself vs just ride it out holding his back). Same thing happened at the end of round 2 where Arman knew the round was ending and abandoned his 2 arms in approach on the ground. Good fight overall from both though.
@Jay77712
@Jay77712 2 месяца назад
Funny you assume getting stuck and controlled on the ground is worth more than a submission attempt despite the criteria saying it doesn't 😂 1:40
@truperfection2479
@truperfection2479 2 месяца назад
@@Jay77712 I’m not. Arman landed 18 significant strikes in round 3 to Charles’s 5. Over 3x as much. On top of the ground control which I’ll gladly ignore for you. Furthermore the submission attempt was not close as I said above.
@mikhail3373
@mikhail3373 2 месяца назад
i wont hear the end of the charles glazers. saying charles won that fight is absurd. the whole argument is that he had a 10 second darce choke at the end that wasn't even in tight enough to end the fight. Arman objectively did more damage that's a fact and damage is the most valuable criteria for scoring.
@matteobetti8559
@matteobetti8559 2 месяца назад
I'm glad charles didn't really take that much damage in this fight
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