My lore video explaining Ken Rosenberg's backstory and how he ended up in GTA San Andreas in 1992. Support me on Patreon: / theprofessional1994 Follow me on Twitter: / patrick21611
Edit: I won the claim after a month the video is now mine This video has been copyright claimed by take two interactive over the San Andreas introduction cutscenes. Its ridiculous. Im fighting the claim. It expires in 28 days. If you guys do enjoy the video please do drop a like. I didn't want to delay the video any further.
Damn! I have just finished typing my comment on here and not even before I was finished, this happens. Why are you doing this, Take-Two Interactive? Let the poor The Professional play games in peace. But I feel bad that not even an hour has passed, you got a copyright claim. Dammit, Rockstar. At least it's better than a copyright strike because that would be MUCH worse...
@@MeeMeeCandy777 I feel more pissed on take two and I feel bad for pro I hope he reuploads with no changes if this doesn’t worked I liked the comment to check if it stays
As sudden as Tommy cutting ties with Rosenberg was, he at least has honor in the sense that he didn't betray Rosenberg and instead paid for his rehab before quietly parting ways. Says a lot about Tommy's character, as most mob bosses would deal with addicts and Ken and Tommy were good friends, and Tommy would never betray anyone unless they were a danger to him. Tommy parting ways with Rosenberg was necessary, otherwise he could've inadvertedly put the entire Vercetti gang in danger.
tommy was a complete asshole. He showed no respect to ken ever since the beginning of the events ov VC, he pushed and bullied him, he mocked him. Rosenberg endured all this abise and still didn't betrayed Tommy. After all this, Tommy simply dumped in the rehab center on the other side of the country and cut all ties. This is because Ray Liotta was a pain in the butt for R* and the studio didn't wanted to work with him anymore. Seems he kept having temper tantrums and hissy fits during filming.
@@TheChosenMoose01 i assume he stopped it again since he is working with Maddogg who was also an addict but Cj took him to rehab after he saved his life and he hates Drugs now cause it nearly killed him so i think Maddogg will refuse to work with Ken if he is using drugs
@@toshinoriyagi1887 Probably. So in a way, Tommy helped Ken. Not to mention he got Ken out of his crime syndicate, so in a weird way, Ken got an ending similar to Tommy, as they don't have heat from their Mafia Families anymore.
It's possible for them to do it now with the technology we have and there being amazing voice actors who can mimic someone perfectly but Rockstar is corrupt and careless now, they won't do the fans justice.
@@TheProfessor66 I can only see it happening if they decide to do REAL in-house remakes of the 3D universe trilogy, keeping the main story intact and adding some additional story to the games all on the RAGE engine. That would obviously be much better than the garbage definitive editions we got in November
My fan theory about Tommy knowing how Ken is after San Andreas is that yes he did find out about Ken working with Madd Dogg (probably from television or connections) and sees that Ken is enjoying his life and decides to leave him to his own terms instead of trying to reconnect
Tommy's a good man. A psychotic murderer and drug dealer, sure, but a good man for his friends. Probably he was happy too, seeing Ken enjoy life and everything
Tommy is a stand up guy simply cause knowing how the rest of the mafia families in Liberty work (the forellis, the sindacos, the leones) every one of them will without hesitation whack loose ends when they stop being useful for them. The culture of liberty mafiasos is dogshit, even loyal soldiers like Tommy get whacked for simply making Sonny feel insecure. Tommy unlike everyone from his liberty city mafiaso culture, DIDN'T whack Ken when he proved to be a liability. Tommy really did turn out to be... *a good fella*
Ken was a funny character. I'm glad he survive the events of Vice City and San Andreas. He got a happy ending. He now has an honest job. He, Kent Paul, and Maccer are going to be very wealthy working for Madd Dog.
@@NoNameforreal yeah, even if it means he has to cut ties with him for good. At least Ken got something good at the end. Down he's taking drugs again. Hope he stops taking them
Even though Tommy is a hardened criminal, he at least has some morals. Most crime bosses would've probably whacked Ken, but due to his loyalty to him he didn't. He even paid for his rehab. I'm glad that Ken had a happy ending, hopefully it stays that way.
Yea Tommy was more fair to people like Ken and Lance than he had any reason to be. If it was Sonny he would’ve just had them whacked but Tommy offers many chances unless they betray him which then he just kills them
If it was Claude he would have killed him he have no morals or loyalty he is a pure psycho i think of all the Gta characters Claude is the most dangerous of them All
All GTA protagonists are a hardened criminals and mass murderers lol. But all of them except Claude have a moral compass and sense of loyalty to their friends or families.
"Raymond Allen Liotta was an American actor and film producer. He was best known for his roles as Shoeless Joe Jackson in Field of Dreams and Henry Hill in Martin Scorsese's Goodfellas. He was a Primetime Emmy Award winning actor and received nominations for a Golden Globe and two Screen Actors Guild Awards. Wikipedia Born: December 18, 1954, Newark, NJ Died: May 26, 2022, Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic" well I'll be damned
People really need to stop defending Rosenberg and blaming Tommy for abandoning him. It's Ken's own fault. He was the one who decided to fuck his own health up with that cocaine. So Tommy blowing him off is a smart decision since cokeheads are known to act wild and would be dangerous for business. Just look at Tony Montana.
@@terrymorgan5304 honestly I think neither of them are guilty, being drug addicted it's a disease, even when you're aware that you might become a drug addicted, the stress will probably make you lie to yourself, saying you wont get addicted and it will be just one line, and Tommy probably paid his rehab is because he had hope he could cure his best friend, and Tommy just "abandoned" his friend it's because he didn't had a choice, when Ken became the third party between the families in the cassino, even if it wasn't his choice, he couldn't go back to Tommy and involving with his gang after the crusade they made against the Forellis, he even tried, but in the scene of the Special edition of GTA SA, we can see it doesn't work
@@frankgrimes7388 Real or fiction, you know how detrimental it would be to have coke addicts around during business. Tommy had every right to cut all ties with Ken. Ken is lucky Tommy didn't blast him like he did Lance.
Just because Rosenberg doesn't have a family, doesn't mean that Sonny can't threaten to murder it (He doesn't know). Also, might mean parents, not necessarily wife and kids...
I just love how one of his biggest concerns at a daily basis is just looking good...I mean Tommy just killed Sunny and his men all on his own, but Kens first concern is Tommys ruined suit
The ending in Vice City is sad in and on itself, as we see Ken's addiction get the better of him and alone trapped in a mob war for control of a casino. Kent Paul is the only Vice City character to be his only friend left until a fateful meeting with CJ.
@@frozezone2947 I mean it's sad in a _hindsight_ when San Andreas came along. Rosenberg relishes with Tommy's victory, but they eventually drift apart in 90s when Rosenberg's coke addiction goes out of control. Tommy had to send him to rehab and had to cut ties. And like what Professional said, Tommy had to leave Ken out of tough love and he can't bring himself to betray him because Ken was loyal to him.
Off topic but it’s funny if you think about it tenpenny is the reason Carl met truth, and then maccer and Paul eventually introducing him to ken, also if it wasn’t for Cesar, cj never would have met jizzy thus saving toreno, tenpenny literally created his own demise .
"Even if I'm dead by the end of the week, I'd like to think I didn't die poor." I guess when you're living the life of a criminal or mercenary, that's basically what it all comes down to.
Ken Rosenberg is a best played character by William Fichtner. I had no idea that Ken Rosenberg and Sandman(Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3) were the same voice because Rosenberg sounds panicked and Sandman as a hardcore spec ops soldier. Which proves that Fichtner has some good voice acting skills.
G.T.A. Vice City is my all time favorite game. I just wish you had a jetpack & could swim. I live San Andreas Alot but I liked the Vice City story more, the whole mob thing, plus you could own business in Vice City.
@@davidyoung2111 vice city stories might be your game, same concept and prequel to vice city and you can swim for like 20 seconds b4 your stamina runs our and you drown
Such a shame and a missed opportunity for Rockstar games to not restore all the cut content in the definitive edition, that would have made the definitive edition a mix between a nostalgia and a new experience for new and old players and it probably would have been a good reason to buy it again even if it was bugged as hell.
Blud, the objective of the "Definitive" edition was never to be THE definitive experience of the 3D era but for CASH. So that you know, the version they used for the games are the mobile versions - YEAH -. The game's soundtracks are incomplete because they couldn't and wouldn't pay for the rights even though Rockstar is making 1 BILLION per year.....
I like to think that Tommy also doesn't want Ken to come back because he is a recovering addict and Tommy is a drug dealer. Tommy knows that if Ken comes back, it is far too likely he gets back into drugs. Tommy doesnt want that.
Thid video just proves that tommy is one of the least insane GTA protagonists other than Niko, because he doesnt bother anybody and just mind about resting from crime. Tommy is also pretty loyal to people even though Lance and Sonny betrayed and tried to kill him.
Well I don't understand why some few people comment anything like "Tommy is more evil or psycho than CJ". Sure Tommy never remorse unlike CJ but he's also loyal to his allies same as CJ and Niko and importantly he has much less bodycount (Tommy only killed 11 hitmans in Liberty City and he only killed a lot of people in Vice City. While CJ killed a lot of people in most areas of California and Nevada , He also killed a ton of Forelli gang members in Liberty City St Mark Bistro mission) and his murders were slightly less brutal than CJ's murders in general. CJ is easily the most brutal GTA protagonist along with Toni and Trevor in my opinion.
Tommy parting ways with Ken is a very wise decision otherwise Tommy had to take care of him eventually. Tommy is always loyal to his friends and associates. He's my favorite gta protagonist for a reason.
I saw the notification and I came here very quick! I really loved Tommy and Ken's relationship in Vice City. It was so sweet and wholesome. I feel bad for Rosenberg by the time the events of San Andreas began. Fun fact: Tommy was originally supposed to talk to Ken during The Introduction, but his voice actor (Ray Liotta) wanted more money from Rockstar, so it didn't happen. I really liked his voice actor.
10:45 This reminds me of something my Accounting and Business Management teacher use to say all the time when I was in High School: "Even criminals and drug dealers need accountants."
Fun Fact: TheProfessional knows a majority of these facts about the inner workings of mobs because he himself has been in many mobs at once and has been on the run from these mobs in multiple states after being found out.
R.I.P. Ray Liotta. A lot of people can argue that his best performance ever was "Goodfellas", but I sincerely believe Tommy's character is a winner by a significant margin. This is a masterpiece by all means.
Truly Ken Rosenberg’s cocaine addiction would be a major liability for Tommy Vercetti and his gang. That he didn’t really wanted to kick Ken out of his life. Only his criminal syndicate. Let’s hope there’s some friendship that needs some reconnecting
As much as I would like to see Tommy and Ken reunite one more time and just see how happy they are to see each other, it's probably for the best they keep distance and don't talk. I know it's not really nice to say but Ken is literally better off with Tommy thinking he's dead or just out the mob stuff for good. Because if anyone who connected to that world or even a cop sees them interacting again, that immediately puts Ken's life in danger. He only panics when he's in danger. And what does he do when he panics? His coke addiction resurfaces. I'd really hate to see Ken dead from an OD. This is his one and probably only chance to have a normal life like he told Carl. Speaking of which, he better hope that if Salvatore comes after Carl, he'll be well protected. And I think he will. Because Carl has a great network of people to help him. Also he and Sweet are supremely against drugs, so there's little chance of Ken being exposed to that shit again.
@@henriquecampos4120 SA takes place 9 years before GTA 3 does. There was plenty of time to try and kill Rosenberg. Not to mention 1998, when Toni Cipriani returns to Salvatore.
The question that bugs me is how did the Mafia forgive him? He is known to have sided with Tommy Vercetti, jumping ship from the Forellis. Sonny Forelli even threatens him (and his loved ones) during the endgame of Vice City. So he's a known enemy of the mob. However, once his partnership with Tommy ends, the mob (including the Forelli family) employs him in a fairly high position in their latest (and very lucrative) business venture.
1. Only to the Forellis, the Forellis are the weakest Family in LC by the Time SA happened after the death of Sonny Forelli, that's why Johnny Sindacco didn't even bother bringing a Forelli to his meeting with the Leones. 2. Salvatore Leone want to use him. He's the one suggesting it to Johnny Sindacco Salvatore is a slimy bastard that always tried to play cards that looks fair, when it actually isn't. Johnny Sindacco probably also thought that he could use Ken as a Pawn as well 3. He was only an associate for the Forellis, and the guy who run the Forellis after Sonny died doesn't give a rat's ass about Ken due to their weak oosition
Kent Paul about Ken Rosenberg: That bonkers ambulance chaser. He could defend an innocent man all the way to death row. Also Kent Paul: Happy to work with Ken Rosenberg at Caligula's and to produce Madd Dogg's rhymes
@@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial I doubt it. The GTA stories' characters were more side characters and not scene as often in the main game. Toni Cipriani was in GTA 3 for a few missions, Vic Vance dies at the beginning of Vice City, and Johnny and Luis appeared in GTA 4 a few times during the main story.
Been waiting for this, finally, i have always love your lore video hoping for more this kind of video hope you will do on Lance Vance , Avery , Phil Cassidy and Auntie Poulet.
Ken is the accountant and Paul is the sound engineer, Ken is simply so coked out and willing that he doesn’t even fully register what CJ is asking him to do. Ken is the numbers guy at all times lol.
It is that because Ray didn’t appear in SA, that R* thought of such a lore that Tommy sends him away from VC, where the mafia doesn’t have any involvement, so that they can’t find him, but over the time, Tommy realised he’s much better off without him, plus Ken returning to VC was Mission Impossible at this point.
Every gta character has their funniest line in CJs case it’s “I’d love to talk to you but I got some money that needs spending on expensive trash” it’s just too good
Can we talk about how Sonny set up the deal with Diaz in order to get rid of Tommy? Sure, Sonny thought of the backup plan of extorting Tommy, in case he lived, but he wasn't meant to survive that deal
@cool guy from 2007 it'd be too obvious, plus Tommy would be suspecting one of his gang members to attempt that, considering Tommy already has suspicions about the last incident.
@cool guy from 2007 No he couldn't, even if there were members loyal enough to do so, Tommy would 100% recognize that the men are Sonny's. Which is why in both ambushes there not a single Foreli goon, only Hitmen with no known history.
@cool guy from 2007 Your misunderstanding what I said. I know in the Mafia that if the boss tells you to do something, that you had to do it, that's not at all what I was saying. Im saying that Sonny would not send his own guys because in the event that Tommy survived, he would recognize that it was Sonny's men and would figure out Sonny sent them and broke the Omerta, which would have put Sonny in a very bad situation. Even though Sonny is the mob boss, there are things that even a mob boss cannot do otherwise risking their entire organization and the loyalty of the gang. One of those thing he can't do is killing a main man in the family for no good reason. Doing so risks the gang abandoning or even killing the mob boss because the mob boss is just killing his men because he didn't like them, meaning they could all be a potential target.
Best Lore: Vice City with San Andreas as a close second Best Story/Plot: GTA IV Best Gameplay/Combat: GTA V Best Missions: San Andreas just because they're crazy 🤣 Best Characters: GTA IV, V, San Andreas all tie Most Iconic: GTA III
@@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial tbh i cant remember any poorly written gta 4 characters. But to be fair rockstar is really good with character writing and character development
Two notes: - Ken had been working with the Forellis for many years prior to VC. An official guide mentions he had been associated with them since 1978. (Further that he was born in 1953, this also proves he couldn't have been Tommy's lawyer in the Harwood Butcher Trial) - We actually know further about Tommy's fate. There was promo website made for VC called "Kent Paul's 80's Nostalgia Zone!" Sometime between the events of San Andreas in 1992 and 2002, Kent Paul developed a drug addiction. By 2002, he was in a halfway house and currently in an after care program. He started the website as part of his therapy. Anyway, in the social problems of the 80s, he mentions Tommy at the bottom. "(see, Tom, I didn't mention your name, nowhere. Maybe you won't get us killed now, okay?)" This confirms that Tommy is still alive in 2002 (aged 51) and still in charge of his Crime Family.
You know maybe gta 6 can be about a person in Tommy’s gang and he rises through the ranks and to make the story sad they can say that he died and the player becomes the boss of Tommy’s gang.
If GTA 6 releases next year and is based of next year, Tommy would either be 71 or 72 years old, but since Ray Liotta and Rockstar don't get along, I doubt Tommy would return.
It is hard to imagine that Ken was kicked out. That was one of the happiest endings ever ! Truly ! Every time I finish the game after replaying it , I cry at that scene saying " and they lived happily ever after ".
This was great professional brilliant as always can u do one on the rise and fall of the forellis and how they went from being the most powerful mafia in America to the weakest.
Thanks so much for doing this. I never got very far in San Andreas (I wish Rockstar implemented their skip checkpoint feature in GTA games and not stopped with la noir and RDR 1/2) I always wondered what happened to Ken, I'm glad he made it out alive, thanks for the explanation. Also, on the same note, thanks for explaining what happened to CJ's mom. After I killed Sonny I never knew about the level to get Ken out of Vice City.
