What Happened To Razor? | Why People Stopped Playing Him | Genshin Impact 

How did u read off the vid's script? 💀

/mirror maidens have low phys res, and people brushed her off with her tanky hp i always say "use razor on her yall works like a champ" but man i was agressive and people called me a simp sooo dont be like me kids

@@Iskou307 im vars' alt trust me bro

This might sound dumb but who's the third physical you mentioned? I'm guessing c1 fischl? :D

@@Aceleo209 it's xinyan. A pyro physical DPS with split scaling :')))

And if you want an early-game/4* claymore that scales super well with constellations and investment to be a late-game powerhouse...then Noelle has always been there. Man, Razor really got the short end of the stick.

If you want a stand that goes ORA tho...

@@Superflaming85 Beidou

i was using physical zhongli even before his buff xd

@@phucgiang395 one of the reasons that got me to dislike Razor for a really long time was early Genshin (1.0). I got C1 Beidou on Venti banner, together with Fischl, Xianglind and Barbara, that was my main team and until this day the best supports for many of my teams. Until ar50 Beidou was my big dmg dealer and all the time people would nag me saying I had a terrible team and DPS, only Diluc, Keqing and Razor was good characters and using anyone besides those was bad. I got Keqing later, still thought she was weaker than my Beidou for a second DPS for abyss. Still dont have Diluc, and never tried Razor, because soon after I got Eula too.

Don't forget our girl Qiqi, she's worse applicator but covers sustain as well, he has 2 options

@@cesarpedrazamartinezgarcia725 Yeah but Qiqi is a standard banner 5 star. I was lucky enough to get her C1 but... There are still many who don't even have her

If only you didn't have to roll for him and he came with the story

Every 4 Star is for Early and Midgame... (Except Supports)

Razor, Kaeya, Ningguang are exactly in my ore farming crew.

That was my story till I got ayato , mained razor till ar 53

razor sucks big time at higher levels, he is a good early-semi early unit. But is one of the worst mid-end game.

@@EroMero-tl8sj hes not even that bad late its just others are far far better

Tru story

When I get Eula it is like I am in danger what do I do with my leveled up Razor good boy?

I like his English :3 is adorable

@@cheese7119 Me like Razor's English dub

Razor... likes... this... comment! Also, most people I know see him as a main dps, but he can be a great support too! I use him as a superconduct trigger: electro first, cryo second, for Eula, and his electro application is super fast, and his E has a super short cooldown time, so I can just swap in and out for more superconduct cycles quickly. If you're lucky to have WGS, he'll be an even better support! I build him with a 4 piece Noblesse with Electro goblet, and ATK sands, with as much crit rate/dmg as possible, because his E can also be a copium attack support too. We just have to be creative playing him, since this is what Genshin is all about anyways, finding the strength of each character so that we can use them to their best potential!

- Selfish carries are really not the meta anymore. Even someone like Xiao who has insane multipliers and AoE dmg are not as good anymore. Quick swap teams that rely on burst rotations, like National or Freeze, are much stronger because you get all that nice i-frames during burst activations AND doing a ton of dmg at the same time. Selfish carries are more vulnerable to taking dmg and interruptions so they need to be paired with a shielder in most cases, which also limit their team comps. - Razor really doesn’t have much AoE, which makes him pretty bad for Abyss. Yes I know his attack is technically AoE, but I’m talking like Xiangling/Childe/Xiao/Kazoo/Ganyu/Ayaka level of AoEs. Razor needs another Anemo unit to group enemies for him, and since he’s physical, Anemo VV doesn’t shred, so you’re kind of wasting a teammate slot. - Eula is just better as a phys carry. Higher base stats, better scalings, faster attacks (without ult), built-in phys shred, giant nuke dmg that Razor lacks, and also AoE dmg with hold E and Q. Eula also works really well with Raiden, who is an SSS tier unit. While Razor’s best supports aren’t some giga-busted units like Raiden. Eula has both a higher floor AND a much much much higher ceiling when it comes to power level, so really no reason to play Razor if you had Eula.

Yeah, I used to love having Razor as my main dps since I loved using his power-up ult. Its really satisfying to basically do a supersayian transformation in the middle of battle and then proceed to just wreck everything around you. Then I got Xiao who basically did the same thing but better, and since then I've only ever used Razor in my main team whenever I needed some electro attacks for exploration.

I was so lucky to get him on Noelle's banner (somehow before her too lol) because I started right around Zhongli's first rerun banner. It took forever to get a single constellation for him since he was never featured and standard banner is such a mess,

Doesn’t that mean he was on two of the best 5star banners in the game?

THis is what happened to me. I wanted Razor so badly, but by the time I got him I already had Kaeya built up as my main (still use him in abyss to this day) and was working on Zhongli and Yanfei.

I got him after Eula, so... yeah.

Started playing this year and summoned for Ayaka on her rerun and got C4 Rosaria and C3 Sayu and no Razor. RIP guess I’ll wait till he randomly shows up on standard

Yeah but Yanfei is Pyro, have massive range and can be build to be a shielder. So, she still wins. Poor doggo

I don't think they are similar at all. Yanfei suffers from being decent in an element that has many amazing/boarderline broken pyro units, and even then she has a secondary practical use in "Tankfei". Razor suffers from being a greedy dps that doesn't have the scaling to justify being a greedy dps, which is made apparent by his only direct competition, Eula, who has much higher scalings and a playstyle that facilitates other sub-dps characters by capitalizing on her big nuke.

Yanfei imo can find some play whenever ranged attacks are needed Like vs Oceanid

@@Spiderrtank or thundering manifestation. i remember a lot of people built half-baked yanfeis to deal with it in abyss because of how difficult it is to kill quickly without a ranged dps.

Have u tried Raiden with Yanfei? No? Then I guess u will never know how much damage she can do

Razor Hyperbloom Driver Truge

Finally found a razor main :D

I was a Razor main since day 1, in 1.1. When 2.3 was released i stopped to use him by the same reasons. I triple crown him and demolish everithing. The best fight my razor got was against Raiden Ei in 2.1. I hope in the future i can rebuid him and playing him like the old days... But i have characters to finish to build.

I mained Razor because I love his character but mainly because I lacked a second DPS for the abyss, and he did lead me to clear floor 10 for the first time, I also enjoyed one shotting stuff holding his E, plus his burst has one of the best animations in the game according to me However he does fall short in front of other 5 star DPSs (which is natural as a 4 star, why would Hoyoverse create a powerful 4 star DPS anyway) so when I got Ayaka I stopped playing him :(

same. honestly he still is somewhat ok. just did 36* with him on one team as a main dps so yeah, you can definitely do all the content with him. (ok, mostly thanks to national on the other team but still xd)

I started playing since December 2021 and I managed to get Razor off banner pretty early in my game. He's carried me so much during my early AR days but slowly took him off my team because I got newer characters 0(( I am planning to build him again now that I used up all my wishes for Yelan and prefarmed for Itto so the boss mats will go to levelling up Yun Jin to make into Razor's perfect team mate

It always shocks me when people put eula as a top tier dps, because a single ruin enemy, which are quickly becoming the most common enemy in the game, can massively nerf her, along with her c0 burst only doing decent damage for how long it takes to use it. She's by no mean bad, and I think she's really balanced, unlike the actual top tier dpses. Razor just has all of her problems but magnified

I feel like certain things are meant for early/mid/late game, and physical is meant for early game outside of Eula just look at physical xiangling, fischl, and rosaria. great early but most transferring over to their elements late game. c6 razor seems to be a ton of electro

and in late game there will be even more enemies resistant to phys damage because Khaenri'ah has no human enemies most likely.

@@sera8648 i know for a fact that hu tao and yoimiya can put out more damage, especially against single target, which is most of Eula's normal attack damage anyway, and diluc puts out comparable damage too if he vapes consistently. Eula is by no means bad, shes really good, but the fact that she's physical means that you can't support her with kazuha or EM donors or VV, which are all super important for well rounded team comps. Maybe the meta will change at some point, and maybe dainsleifs element will introduce physical bonuses, but for now shes only an A tier dps, leaving hu tao, ayaka and ganyu at S, simply due to reaction potential.

@@sera8648 i dont think her dmg is t1 dps, her dmg should be t0 dps but phys res from enemies just push her down so bad

Yeah he has my first crown

He was my first dps but I don't use him anymore cause I have better units

Razor was my first Main DPS since 1.1. when 2.3 started i stopped using him, because i realize i build a lot of characters and deal more dagame in less time. But my Razor is the only triple crown character in my account and fought and defeat Raiden Ei (Archon Mission Boss fight). I hope someday i rebuild him and bring him back, for the old times.

Whats doom and gloom?

@@hisu7551 negative, sad and tragic

razor is wolf boi, so i main him

I can respect that

No way, am I your friend because I literally have them too and still am a proud, crowned Razor main💀

i have raiden, xiao, ayaka, eula, the list goes on and i STILL main razor lmao 😭 i’ve mained him since day one and at this point i’ve invested so much into him i don’t feel like maining anyone else

thats literally me with my triple crowned razor help. I main Itto and Ayaka too, but I prefer Razor's playstyle tbf, so most times I can, I'll always use him.

uhh that's also a problem for the likes of Ayaka, Eula, Diluc, Itto or most DPS. It's not even Razor exclusive problem. When you're forced to fight enemy that spreads out there's really no easy way to deal with it other than having someone SUCC them together which is why Succrosse, Venti and Kazuha is kinda mandatory for those abyss where enemy spread everywhere (I'm looking at you 11-1!) The thing is even if you can reach say 25k per hit with Razor he still need to compete with quick swap TEAM. that can dealt over 100k per second for like 5-10 seconds if done properly (e.g Raiden National, or Shenhe mono cyro). Razor need to hit as fast as bow or sword user if he want to compete with that number.

@@JeSt4m but those characters do have great aoe attacks tho

@@steven.5720 they have AOE attack NOT great AoE attack. By that token Razor also have great AoE attack with his hold E. Having AoE that you can't use often with small AoE range doesn't make them great AoE. Great AoE means you can hit them far, fast, often and hard. Most unit in Genshin have some AoE attack but only few are truly excel at it.. Unit with great AoE can easily anihillate scattered mob of abyss in like 20 seconds like with Beidou or Ganyu

Maybe he good in boss fight?

Not with a Kazuha.

I too am a razor main, he is simple and good, I like the attack speed increase, though he's only c2 for me

Same, I feel like I'm never going to replace my boi no matter what he still carries me :")

@@MillieDuu I even have the shogun and eula, but I ain't replacing the good boy

Me too. My razor C6 plus Kazuha with electro passive sword carries me all the time.

long live the wolf boi 🙌🏼

This is why I switched my phys Kaeya to Cryo with Chongyun. Absolutely unbeatable now.

@@jadecoolness101 Kaeya c6 with Shenhe, is broken and if you a kaeya main you should be getting his const. from the shop

@@imo098765 yeah Kaeya is at C3 now... but he only shows up in the shop once every 6 months.

I have 2 artifact sets for kaeya, one for physical and one for cryo, then I switch based on the abyss rotation Sadly electro Razor doesn't really work :

Eula's not gonna fall in popularity, she's a waifu with a fat ass.

the word is underrated 😭 also i am a keqing, razor and xinyan main so yeah, totally casual f2p boi here

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Its there but its not as big as some claim, i can still clear abyss with minutes left over on each half running Physical Fischl, but if you want this is partly a byproduct of the fact luckily artifacts and decent team building still far out scales the end game content, so if invested, if you have good artifacts and know how to build a team for whatever you are trying to do, as niche as it is, then there is wiggle room for you, but for newer players just trying to get by and pureblooded F2Ps (unless they've been playing for maybe a year or more?) this isn't usually the case. Many of those players want and need every advantage they can get in their arsenal, there is a lot less room to have fun with what you simply like. Although i'd argue is there actually? Getting 36* for the first time feels amazing, but rushing to get it and hating the teams you used is surely a bigger waste of time, then any time you saved by playing meta, if said meta isn't one to your own taste.

Your second paragraph is exactly why elemental feels good and physical does not. Most enemies resist only 10%-20% of elemental damage all while these enemies have 30%, 50%, 60% and 70% resistance to physical. On top of that superconduct can only shred 40% off of that 50/60/70 percent resistance, but anemo vv set shreds 60% off of 10% to 20% sending enemy resistance to negative values anytime you shred with vv set or even a character constellation or skill effect.

And then there Abyss Herald shield which is basically understructible against physical

This is incorrect though? Most enemies will have around 10% res to all elements phys included, the examples you picked (Humanoid enemies) are the outliers and instead have NEGATIVE phys res at -20%. Childe and Signora have 0% and 10% phys res respectively. In terms of other elements, if an enemy is affiliated with a specific element they'll usually have res against it. Samachurls are a good example since they usually have 50% to their respective element. Enemies that DO have above average phys res are Mitachurls (30%), Lawachurls (50%), Ruin related enemies (70%), and Geo enemies (30%). Rifthounds also do but this isn't anything special to phys since Rifthounds have 20~25% res to everything innately. Everything else will generally have 10%. Real issue with phys is that phys chars are usually lacking multiple things. They generally don't have a natural phys res cut in their kit until consts, they lack AoE damage, they don't have any sort of burst, and superconduct has an unusually low damage multiplier for no real reason. Eula fixes most of these issues and is why she's a step above other phys units, instead suffering from her own problems as she's so reliant on banking that her burst oneshots everything since her general DPS is mediocre.

@@sweetillusions5495 Bro its easy just Rosaria Zhongli with a nice flex

Build? I only usually get 9-10 k per hit

@@carlosnathanieljannjusonal4826 4 piece glad, serpents spine 80 cr, 195 cd without food buff

I use prototype archaic with 4PC pale flame Alternatively u can also run 4PC pale flame and dragon spine claymore but with atk cup instead 100%+ physical bonus is good but anything more than 150+ since Atk is important too

aint that a bit low?

@@carlosnathanieljannjusonal4826 jokes on you i run 150phys+ and 3500+ atk

Have you tried the self-overloading razor meme? Maximise his EM and level, put him with bennett and both ult. He just explodes every 2 seconds, it's quite funny.

@@zilosis3794 no i didn't heard that, and in the battle its not a problem to be honest, im using razor with benny because they are friends in the story and because razor have a great resistance to interuption during ult he don't explode

@@zilosis3794 I unintentionally played like that early game when i was blessed to have both them boys. I didn't mind chasing after enemies i fought bc damage didn't matter much at low AR and it just felt fun practically hunting exploding enemies down to finish them off.

The difference is that Diluc is still perfectly viable. Hu Tao is stronger but he isn't that far behind. Still waiting for a 5* Claymore that is busted as Homa on him.

@pasunna paz His ulti animation is fine though? As far as I'm concerned, the only problem is his damage being underwhelming compared to the newer dps characters

@pasunna paz nah, the ulti animation is fine. The main problem is useless passive, super difficult to get Constellations AND lack of a 5* weapon that sinergizes with him. You still can clear Abyss super fast with him without Dragon Strike.

@@jinshootingstar diluc is still nuts... the proble is his burst staggering enemys away... and like most peopel say dont having a 5 star or 4 star weapon tailor made for him... if he had the same treatmet as albedo i garantee you he will compete against itto and hu tao for the single target dps throne

Not true... His electro dmg is average. He is in need to be build around physical.

@@Written_in_the_Starss Thats only in cases where you have access to massive stat sticks that make up for Razors low attack stat, so WGS and Unforged. The majority of razors are on SoBP or Sergent spine, the former being obviously a physical dps weapon so you would build physical, and the latter granting total damage, which translates into physical% and elementals% damage. Adding that to Razors physical damage ascension stat, and attack goblet comes out on top due to the electro damage making up for the diminishing returns of the physical goblet.

@@Written_in_the_Starss Razor is actually a decent Electro DPS/Hybrid Phys-Electro DPS when built correctly. I've seen Razor Taser Teams (Razor Burst DPS, 2 Hydro (Barbara/Xingqiu/Kokomi), Kazuha/Sucrose Swirl) | Razor Mono-Electro Teams (Razor Burst DPS, Raiden Battery, Beidou Shield+Burst Support, Kujo Sara Support). Point is, when built correctly, he can dish out 10-20K Phys DPS + 7-10K Electro DPS during burst, if he has the right artifacts and weapons.

The big problem with that whole deal with Razor as a hybrid electro/phys dps is that. Well. The moment he goes that route he loses. Not to any meta 5* or anything. From launch he lost that race to Beidou. No competition. Remember that thing he said about Razor being popular early on cause people wanted low investment and self sufficient? Thats the same reason people didnt notice how good beidou was back then too. She got the same treatment as XQ, sucrose and Benny. Not completely understood so seen as mediocre. Outside of raw physical dps, Beidou has always far outclassed Razor in every other aspect. Including hybrid builds. And thats always been the case. Just the undeveloped meta didnt bring attention to that back then. Not even mentioning how beidou still "plays nice" with others. She was better Hybrid build even playing like razor. But her Q didnt go away on swap and she was more flexible with supports because of that. She also snapshotted Benny. She also used Spine better. Especially at C1 cause both her counter and C1 shield prevented stack loss. So she was better, used better supports better, and was actually allowed to *use* supports. And also wasnt tied to Cryo. Even as an on field carry, which she doesnt have to do, she was just straight up better than him. No questions. Outside of specifically physical. She hasnt changed. Shes *always* been better. Her being better simply wasnt understood at launch cause alot of things werent understood back then.

​@@thatrashcan9993 Yelan and Xingqiu are hands down awesome supports for razor in a taser comp. his ult damage scales off his basic attack damage (so a physical goblet/set will provide electro damage as well) and he actually has a good amount of taser damage due to Xingqiu and Yelan procing the reactions and they both just need cc and cdmg along with some er and another stat so it isnt terribly hard to give them some em to increase taser damage snowtombed is his BiS f2p weapon hands down, along with PF for artifact sets however, EoSF is a solid alternative for taser comps bc his ult will be up 100% of the time and can get up to 75% extra damage with the right stats Diona and Rosaria are both good supports but i think Zhongli is better than either one due to the sheilds, reduced phys res, and solid crowd control he brings, plus you dont have to worry about accidently freezing your opponents. Benny and Yae are also good options. for either more raw damage or more reactions.

Even Eula unfortunately is not that good, physical holds her back a lot.

Backloaded damage holds Eula back. If you do not crit on the burst you loose 50% of your damage. If it misses its even worse. You can have 99% crit chance and if your burst as eula doesn't crit you WILL loose your damage. Razor doesn't have any real physical boosting supports that isn't rosaria. If superconduct wasn't the only way to shred physical consistency then Razor would be favoured a bit more. If elemental reactions weren't the focus If Genshin physical would be decent. But since Xianling exists he can't compare doing decent damage as all Razor got is superconduct instead of multiplicative damage modifiers like Vapourise and melt. Xianling has that multiplicative damage and Razor/physical users don't so the battle was lost before it even began

@@MurtazaGI eula is the only meta physical units btw

@@MurtazaGI And no , Eula is actually really good , she is the only physical damage dealer than can keep up with other meta elemental reactions char like hutao,ganyu etc

@@MurtazaGI as a eula main, her normals are actually so crazy. Its just held back by if ur burst crits, and the countless amounts of resin spent to get a 50:200 ratio. But even if you dont have that crit ratio, she still does a decent amount of damage, even with a snowtombed starsilver

You mentioned all the problems I had with what Vars' said. I just recently raised my Razor and put a lot of thought into who synergizes the best with him. What I came up is pretty much Razor/Qiqi/Xingqiu/Yun Jin. Qiqi synergizes so hard with Razor that it feels like they were made for each other. And the interruption resistance from Xingqius burst as well as the little bits of freeze and electrocharged make Razor so much more consistent.

@@corhydrae3238 Same team for me. I also use it my machine gun Fischl.

People typically say Diona is better than Qiqi for him because of the fact that she provides a shield and cryo application, but Qiqi is leagues better for him if you're decent at dodging (just don't get hit and you won't need a shield. Simple)

I’m playing him with Diona, Kaeya and Xingqiu : it’s a no-dps reaction team and they work well together. His weapon is Skyward Pride to improve both his physical and electro damage. He has a Pale Flame set with EM sands and an electro goblet.

try build him with quicken

If you've got a c6 bennet you can run him in full EM build. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ztmiBuNNt3Y.html

I decided to swtich my physical goblet to electro and I use him with nahida; boiii he does damage. and with his burst it's consistent agravate that procks nahida's E and by the time I'm done with the big enemy, the small ones are already dead

The way you apply your elements in this team, if you play Razor with Xingqiu, you will often apply electro and hydro at the same time and then through whatever cryo support you play apply cryo on top of that, triggering freeze and superconduct at the same time. While it's not as huge of an impact as Xingqiu has on, say, allowing Hu Tao to vape her damage, the bit of freeze and electrocharged you get are really neat at keeping enemies from attacking you. The hydro also doesn't interfere with superconduct due to how the elements are applied. Xingqiu is pretty amazing with Razor.

Is Rosaria and Razor better than Xingqiu and Razor cuz I switch Xingqiu with Rosaria when I got her

@@customerservice1323 They're not exactly interchangeable, in the sense that Xingqiu and Rosaria achieve completely different purposes for Razor. Rosaria gives him superconduct, crit rate (if Razor stays within an area, which will happen in boss fights mostly) and, if you have her at C6, she shreds enemies' physical resistance, while Xingqiu gives him electro-charged, resistance to interruption, damage reduction and healing. Rather than replacing one with the other, I'd tell you to mix them together in the same party, and use the last slot for some other support (maybe a healer or a shielder if you need one)

@@rodrigoportalesoliva897 Doesn't matter anymore because I got Xiao and replaced Rosaria with him, lol, but thanks for the info.

For one it feels that elemental damage is straight up better BECAUSE there are no enemies with high all elemental res(only to their own element) while most big enemies like mitachurls, lawachurls, automatons, shodowy husks and etc have 30% 50% 60% and 70% physical damage resistances, while they have only 10% for elemental resistance. Like wtf? Why aren't enemies getting those % 30/50/60/70 % resistances that phys is getting? On top of that superconduct can only shred 40%, while anemo VV set shreds 60% elemental resistance. Like WTFx2? Enemies have up to 70% physical res and we can only shave off 40% while most enemies have only 10% elemental res but we can shred 60% of elemental resistance. Only human enemies like treasure hoarders, fatui and inazuma samurai don't have physical resistance, they have negative resistance which is helping phys BUT fatui have shields that can't even be affected by physical damage and while fatui have their shields up they are not getting much damage to their hp. P.S. oh he even said it in the video.

yunjin buffs normal attacks in general, not just physical... bonus points for it scaling extremely well off bennett too. so if a unit comes where they do insane normal attack DPS but have their normal attacks under an element, yunjin is still extremely viable for them. something like noelle's geo or keqing electro slashes, but MUCH better essentially.

@@DarkFrozenDepths and ofc Yoimiya, it honestly feels likd Yun Jin was tailormade for her

@@pepelarrza3877 also seems made for a phys fischl, ningguang DPS, and i think she even works for childe in melee stance, but I'm not sure.

@@My_Master_Waves VV shreds 40%. The 60% is for swirl damage. So, nope, both get 40%. Now, as to the amount of resists enemies have, with how resists work in Genshin, the gap isn't as big as you'd think. If you take an enemy from 40% resists to 0%, you're looking at a 67% increase in damage dealt. If you take an enemy from 0% to "-40%", you'll wind up putting the enemy at only -20%, as once an enemy hits 0%, any further resist debuffing is only half as effective. So you are only getting a 20% increase in damage. And since you'll generally run superconduct and another character that debuffs physical resists, well, you can take 60% resists down to 0% pretty easily. Meanwhile, if that same enemy started at 0% to some element, and they applied 60% of resist debuffing there, the enemy would only take 30% more damage. And then you have to factor in that physical gets higher DMG bonuses. A two piece phys bonus, for example, is 25%, while a 2 piece elemental bonus is 15%. So in terms of raw damage, physical characters tend to start higher, before buffs/debuffs are figured in. Of course, there are other factors that don't favor physical quite as much. Like there's no reaction physical damage triggers, so it can't boost damage that way. The closest you get is shatter, and that's only for one of the four physical damage weapon types. Though physical isn't the only one with that issue. Geo doesn't get a damage proc'ing reaction either (though it can shatter), while cryo+electro is so crappy that the resist debuff is the only reason to use it. Furthermore, these reactions can be boosted by EM, while EM does nothing for physical damage, so elemental damage does have access to some additional scaling. It'd be nice if EM made superconduct's phys shred stronger, but alas, it doesn't. And I'm sure some would think of Kazuha as well, and that is valid, as he nicely covers four elements and provides a big DMG buff to them, but we do have a bunch of characters that boost DMG for types of attacks. Shenhe can cover the attacks or the elemental skill/burst, depending on if you tap or hold her E. Raiden buffs burst DMG, and so on. Mostly what this comes down to, though, is not that phys is super weak. It's that melt and vaporize are overpowered. And as far as those Fatui shields go, worth noting that unless you have the right element to counter them, it is every bit as bad regardless of your damage type. Every character has an element type, and physical groups usually run both cryo and electro, so it isn't like they're elementless either.

Yeah but something that was not mentioned here is that melee attacks with low reach/aoe have been nerfed, since some enemies like the rift hounds (also applies to the 40 resin one If I remember correctly) and some other inazuma enemies have really strange hitboxes where you need a lengthy attack range to even hit them. Ayato and Itto have attacks with extended range , so they don't run into this issue as much, but I have seen it happen to Eula, so Razor is most likely going to have the same problem

yes! those abyss buffs was really fun for me and im glad i can finally have a reason to use razor in abyss. added with the current claymore dmg buff and having less abyss mages/lectors i feel like hoyoverse finally sort of allow phys characters come into play.

overload captain? burgeon and hyperbloom lol

@@diogoc1541 all three

@@seelenya6866 He is on pair with Keqing. Whatever its worth. Before Yun Jin he was surely a B-.

The things is , if u buffed or give more physical dmg buffer , razor will be ironically more powercrept by Eula ,

I have a c6 triple crowned razor as well, and i completely agree with you. What is your team for razor? Mine is Razor, zhongli, xinqiu, and ganyu

@@Voltage1101 my team is razor, kazuha, sayu and thoma. it may not be very meta, but it works and its one of my favorite compositions in the game. right now he doesn’t have a wolf’s gravestone, but the unforged, i hope to change that in the near future.

@@lesscatranslations my razor has unforged as well haha, anything to give the guy a little bit of an edge. But im waiting for WGS to come back to banner

@@Voltage1101 i am, too! wish you luck on getting it in the near future, fellow razor main!

totally agree with you, but tbh it's still a gacha PVE game after all. Hoyo won't bother to fix any 4stars because they are not the primary selling points for their game; honestly this might even be a garbage take but I genuinely believe that if Mihoyo has good ideas to fix a 4star, they'll just repackage it to release as a 5star and act like nothing happened. Why buff Razor or Amber when they can just release Eula and Ganyu and sell even more? I don't think fixing Razor will make a lot more people want to swipe for him, for example.

@@axvd2105 I got your point and you make great sense, I just feel sad about it, y'know? :c

@@axvd2105 I'd pull for a 5 star upgrade of Amber. Give her better attacks and shielding like the manga so I can shi... pair her with Eula.

Diluc is a Pyro user so he didn't fell off as much as the other OG characters.

Easy to use yes

Keqing, Diluc and Razor, for me, was the three character I hated to see the most in coop sittuations. I would always end up with the annoying meta slaves of the time, complaining of didnt have the best DPS ou Venti in coop to be helpfull. This type of people made give up of random coop, started doing everything myself. Nowadays, with stronger characters and a different meta aprounch is nice to see Keqing, Diluc and Razor mains on random events and sometimes coop

Having a balanced approach, would make it more "Who's playstyle do I like more" instead of "Who does more damage?" All of that aside I do love me some big damage numbers, which is part of the reason I actually got super hyped for Genshin after Kokomi's banner of all things(Didn't get her either) because big damage numbers flooded my recommended suddenly and I got super into build guides. Even though I have been playing since Venti banner( I think), but not hardcore because of not understanding what was going on. My fault for skipping a heck of a lot of story, not the important stuff like tone deaf bard but still, until Liyue. Thank the Lord for Bwaap. Not only that, I didn't see one character demo until Kokomi's release, so I wasn't super invested in most characters with a few a lot exceptions being Kazuha (who I didn't get because of not quite messing with the gacha), Venti, Razor, Childe, Zhongli(Who I don't have, because I didn't know he was running, and didn't like him much until the Childe gives him money bit as well as the character demo I had been lacking), Beidou(who still isn't built but I love her), Yanfei(who grew less and less on me and she's still not built), Hu Tao(who I didn't know was running because doo doo brain), Xinyan(I love her design and when I got her I was happy, because I got her after Yanfei, but I stopped building her when Hu Tao rerun and now she's artifactless), the main 4( who I've also gotten less invested in), Diluc(Because Shenpai, I don't like him much now), Sucrose( hated her initially but she's grown on me a lot), Bennett (who I unfortunately didn't get until Eula rerun), Keqing Mona and Qiqi (because I didn't know what 50/50 was and liked their design's despite not knowing anything else about them until they showed up in quests and I don't like them much now except for Qiqi is baby don't have any of them...Jean grew on me after her quest too) Okay so a lot whatever... This was supposed to end after the word recommended but I typed this whole thing out I'mma post this too.

not just that, he's also a 4 star which means his dmg is lower than 5 star dps.

And he says weird shit

THUNDERING FURRY GIGACHAD

Not to mention that Qiqi doesn't force Razor to stay in a circle on the field, as her cryo application sticks on your active character, unlike Diona or Rosaria.

Agree with everything to 100%. But using ganyu as support is a waste. Any team build around her will outperform razor. I have and love both.

WOAH. HOW DARE YOU DO THAT >:( Cancelled + L + Ratio + Cat Person Did I do it right twitter? xD

@@VarsII you didnt insult his ethnicity, call him multiple slurs and didn't threaten to kill him. 6/10 execution.

Heh, we have the same team, I'm also a Razor main

Yes he did cuz Electrocharge is not Razor's best option nor a good option, He's purely physical so why would you choose electrocharged? That means you're purposefully nerfing him by not following the best way to use him. Zhongli can reduce the knockback problems while also shielding him and reducing enemy Phys resistance + he doesn't interfere with Razor's reactions.

@@warrencaelum9536 If all u care about is meta, then why even bother with razor in the first place? im not saying is the best, im saying is a viable way to play the character

With Yelan, he can make them vape