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Why NO ONE Plays: Kokomi | Genshin Impact 

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For today's episode of Why NO ONE Plays (Genshin Impact) I wanna talk about a character who is actually not half bad in concept, but fails to incentivize players to go after her: Sangonomiya Kokomi!
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@RTM_random
@RTM_random 2 года назад
Komi cant communicate Kokomi cant crit
@F0NGOFF
@F0NGOFF 2 года назад
it all makes sense now..
@zendao7967
@zendao7967 2 года назад
Big brain
@vjbd2757
@vjbd2757 2 года назад
You mean Mihoyo can't communicate
@Arcxzal
@Arcxzal 2 года назад
@@vjbd2757 mihoyo cant balance
@Soundwave1900
@Soundwave1900 2 года назад
I just have to vent so here we go... Her not being able to crit was not a mistake. Yes, I said it. If she didn't have the passive, everyone would build her with atk and crits as usual, thus she wouldn't have any healing bonus or hp, thus her healing would've been copium and all the other passive wasted, and she still would've been a mediocre dps. The biggest mistake they made is to give her such low normal attack multipliers.
@agentorder4604
@agentorder4604 2 года назад
I saw a comment on a video that said “Kokomi’s passive is called ‘flawless strategy’ because she doesn’t rely on chance” and I thoughts it was extremely interesting.
@crispyvegie8033
@crispyvegie8033 2 года назад
OH WAIT, actually that makes sense, my Kokomi dealing 53k each 3 second solo(with hued) with no luck needed since it's a constant dmg
@rainierrr07
@rainierrr07 2 года назад
@@crispyvegie8033 how can you do more than 30k bubbles? isnt 30k the cap
@crispyvegie8033
@crispyvegie8033 2 года назад
@@rainierrr07 yup you're right hued dmg cap is 30k, 53k comes from my ult empowered normal attack dmg and my jelly dmg as well (sorry if my previous comment isn't clear enough 😓)
@rainierrr07
@rainierrr07 2 года назад
@@crispyvegie8033 oh okay wow thats a strong kokomi, hope my nonexistent kokomi can do that someday aswell
@auntvivienne8669
@auntvivienne8669 2 года назад
That’s true, and since she can’t crit, you don’t have to worry about boosting her crit rate with artifacts. You can just give her the clam set or, failing that, anything to boost her offensive capabilities.
@JK-ss1uh
@JK-ss1uh 2 года назад
Locking Kokomi out of crits is actually a really interesting design choice. It adds the idea of draw backs for bonuses in other areas, which is neat. But I think they definitely undertuned the benefits she received for such a large drawback. Maybe if she received an extra hydro dmg bonus or something it would be more viable.
@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897
@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897 2 года назад
Her main issue is she just heals more and more now, that issue has been cointer balanced a little with the new domain but yeah, she does need something more to her to compensate such a large drawback But yeah as shes one of the ebst hydro applicators it would be good to boost her Hydro dmg bonus or give her more EM than before
@sweetillusions5495
@sweetillusions5495 2 года назад
@@ratatouilledrinksclorax9897 Hydro damage bonus wouldn't help her dmg much since she's already got a bunch. What she needs is just better scalings because they set her talent scalings so low for no real reason. Burst at level 10 is like 8% max HP damage and A4 talent is only about 15% Heal Bonus as %max HP damage. Another way they could work around this is like giving her damage during burst a 20% DEF ignore or something. But this is just hopium because only time Genshin devs do some character balancing is when there's Zhongli launch tier outrage.
@sind2000
@sind2000 2 года назад
I think if they made her ultimate work on the others (as in make them able to walk on water and heal by attacking and giving them the hydro damage bonus) that's enough to "fix" her in my eyes
@gigitrix
@gigitrix 2 года назад
Feel like they should have divided crit % by (3? 4? 5?) instead - make it nonviable but not a full lockout
@GeorgeMonet
@GeorgeMonet 2 года назад
What bonuses? That massive drawback is way bigger than you are trying to handwave away. It literally cuts her out of one of the largest sources of damage multilication as crit chance can be stacked to over 100% and crit damage to over 170%. So she's losing out on being able to amplify her damage by 2.7 times to get nothing of value in return. ESPECIALLY since as a hydro char her elemental reaction with pyro could crit.
@fogheta
@fogheta Год назад
Its funny looking back and seeing how badly videos like these have aged. Kokomi deserves a ‘Why everyone plays’ now lol
@adoroselatte
@adoroselatte Год назад
It should be the second part of the Kokomi series!
@kirin1230
@kirin1230 Год назад
Bahaha, yesss
@nezumin_c
@nezumin_c Год назад
her abyss usage rate has ranked in the top 10 for over half a year at this point lolol
@lexine1382
@lexine1382 Год назад
yes! especially after dendro released
@terrahatvol7960
@terrahatvol7960 Год назад
@@lexine1382 Oh does she synergize well with dendro units?
@dynanomite4165
@dynanomite4165 2 года назад
I feel like a lot of the new characters also really shine in co-op. I know sara and raiden got a quite a bit of hate during release, but their co-op potential is really awesome. Same goes for kokomi, definitely super fun to play with someone who has her. Edit: No idea how a non-negative comment about co-op spawned so much controversy.
@cupofjeans
@cupofjeans 2 года назад
perhaps it s prep for co-op gameplay. yeah im od-ing on copium
@AnArtistInAVoid
@AnArtistInAVoid 2 года назад
Here’s hopin co op becomes more relevant then lmao
@strade007
@strade007 2 года назад
@Mystery Ink Take the pale flame domain for example. Geo dmg buff plus gorou being released who boosts def depending on the amt of geo party members. (Granted most people probably don't use geo in that domain but still) I definitely think there will be future characters similar to gorou and kokomi who shine in element specific domains
@vjbd2757
@vjbd2757 2 года назад
The problem is co-op is extremely optional.
@danakane6772
@danakane6772 2 года назад
> I know sara and raiden got a quite a bit of hate during release That's an understatement. The community was on "Raiden bad" circle jerking for weeks (partly because a certain thoerycrafter messed up with his early assessement). Kokomi has currently her niche in Abyss meta as she make double cryo carries comps (like Ganyu+Ayaka) very stable without the need to sacrifice the anemo flex slot at worst she is an alternative to Mona for more defensive oriented freeze comps. So it's not all so grim even outside coop.
@mariapazgonzalezlesme
@mariapazgonzalezlesme 2 года назад
*I am preparing "Why no one" character list.* ✔ Why no one plays Keqing. ✔ Why no one plays Amber. ✔ Why no one plays Kokomi. ❎ Why no one plays the Traveller. ❎ Why no one plays Xinyan.
@m0narch557
@m0narch557 2 года назад
Why no one plays Xinyan
@VarsII
@VarsII 2 года назад
Uh oh. This person knows.
@FoxesareFoxy
@FoxesareFoxy 2 года назад
Xinyan's probably because you don't know if you would give Phys%, Pyro%, or Def% since Xinyan is a support that relies on Def but her shield also deals Pyro damage while her ult launches enemy that relies on Phys damage. She has so much potential but the fact she's kinda hard to build is the reason why no one plays her. They'd rather build Diona since she's much easier to build since all her kit relies on HP/HP%
@michapiasta3072
@michapiasta3072 2 года назад
You forgot aloy
@AnaCristina-dv6qu
@AnaCristina-dv6qu 2 года назад
Lisa , Lisa is on the bottom of never use in the abysm
@tengkualiff
@tengkualiff 2 года назад
There's also the simple reason that Raiden Shogun was announced for the patch too, which affected Ayaka's, Yoimiya's and Kokomi's sales.
@Syhyronica
@Syhyronica 2 года назад
i pulled for yoimiya :D
@Syhyronica
@Syhyronica 2 года назад
@Sylvia Raven I’m actually considering going for kokomi for a tazer comp. I’ve got my triple crowned c6 waifu aka fischl, I’ve got c5 beidou, and a c6 xingqiu
@rick30521
@rick30521 2 года назад
Not so much Ayaka I think, as we knew she would be a dps and, until they reveal the kit, any 5* is more likely to be a support (3 archons, all better supports than dps).
@laobozu549
@laobozu549 2 года назад
Seems like the story is repeating itself with Kokomi and Raiden being on the same side of 2.5
@Syhyronica
@Syhyronica 2 года назад
@@laobozu549 I’m going for kokomi with up to 90. Then saving for kazuha
@dex1o_15
@dex1o_15 2 года назад
My friend accidentally got her and regretted it immediately. Now she's nearly friendship lvl 10 and one of his most used characters and one of his faves. Stan Kokomi
@MonkeBrain07
@MonkeBrain07 Год назад
Same case with my friend. I was a relatively new player when her banner first rolled out so I didn't care for the META whatsoever. I built her and was pleasantly surprised at her healing and hydro application. Then at the tail end of her banner, my friend pulled to get Beidou's constellation, but got Kokomi because he didn't pay attention to his pity count. He complained to me like crazy so I took him to the Emblem and Shimenawa domain to show him Kokomi's strength. I told him to bring Ayaka and I will bring Kokomi. He did just that and the enemies barely ever thawed. When we play together, he almost always tells me to bring my Kokomi because somehow, despite being the newest player in my friend group (thanks for breaking, laptop...), my Kokomi build is the best between all my friends.
@strawberrymilk607
@strawberrymilk607 Год назад
Me too, I accidentally got Kokomi's C1 and the donut and regretted it, then I became a Kokomi main. She's so versatile and fun to play
@anonymyus7007
@anonymyus7007 Год назад
Same here. I had just gotten back to the game after a 3 month break and pulled on the banner for funsies. .. i had totally forgotten i had pity QwQ. But now that Dendro's out she's finally become part of my main team ,, might even pull for a C1 but nah I'll save my primos this time xD
@azelifra4386
@azelifra4386 Год назад
Same, I used my last wish on Kokomi, instead of Ganyu and regretted it. Now I am a Kokomi main and she is confortable unless she activates her passive(I guess?)
@zahikdturk6568
@zahikdturk6568 Год назад
haha her decision aged like fine wine
@Hyurno
@Hyurno 2 года назад
the new set makes me glad i pulled for kokomi she literally does so much damage now LOL
@riu8104
@riu8104 2 года назад
Yess kokomi supremacy
@riu8104
@riu8104 2 года назад
I really wanted kokomi but I didn't have enough primogems to pull for her :(
@aponyachuu
@aponyachuu 2 года назад
Fr Kokomi can be a phys dps with the new set lmfao
@keeiiii.
@keeiiii. 2 года назад
I didn’t even get one OCEAN HUED CLAM. I only got itto’s artifacts. My kokomi sad now
@PykeTyson77
@PykeTyson77 2 года назад
So much damage yeah COPIUM
@ahaha1306
@ahaha1306 2 года назад
i pulled for kokomi and i honestly don't regret it, shes literally a walking statue of the seven, her E lasts for a long time and the ticks for the healing is so good.
@kio9922
@kio9922 2 года назад
"Walking Statue of the Seven" *FINALLY someone else sees what I see* 😂
@annaairahala9462
@annaairahala9462 2 года назад
She's honestly really good. People underrate her just because she got hate on release
@GraveUypo
@GraveUypo 2 года назад
i skipped her and don't regret it, but if i did get her, i'd totally build her. not because she's good, but because she's unpopular. also because i like self-sustaining characters. i don't believe in the power of friendship and the stronger a character is by themselves, the more likely i am to like them. but if they're too meta i end up hating them
@nightowl5332
@nightowl5332 2 года назад
@@annaairahala9462 yes! Shes my first 5* and even though i have Jean, Bennet, Barbruh and Xingqiu, shes always in my main team and hoo boi, her burst did save my arse many times when food wasnt available in the Shiki Taishou event. Many hate her, but in reality, shes a jewl which deserves more love.
@ElementEarth100
@ElementEarth100 2 года назад
ye
@shiro1369
@shiro1369 2 года назад
Ironically, those who has her, which is like 20+ percent of the players only, uses her in abyss with a much higher usage rate than childe, yoimiya, eula, and mona. So i cant really say nobody uses her, its just that most people dont even have her, so its rare to see people using her.
@mettaursp309
@mettaursp309 2 года назад
Can confirm as a Koko owner that I've used her in pretty much every abyss since I've gotten her. She really helps free up Xingqiu, and provides great hydro up time on the other team.
@venti9925
@venti9925 2 года назад
Kokomi is the only one in my party who always has a slot. I have most of the characters so I've always had a favorite 2 or 3. But.... She replaced both of them and now she's in all 4 teams. I absolutely love her. I'm a day 1 player and she ended up being my first 90! (I play slow)
@_Shay_
@_Shay_ 2 года назад
Yep Kokomi has not once left my team. Anyone who actually pulled her lover her. If more people just tried her they’d love her
@mettaursp309
@mettaursp309 2 года назад
@Ze TheGame That's quite an overly generalized assumption that doesn't really stand up to scrutiny. Just because you hear about her a lot, and you hear about people who wanted to go out of their way to get her doesn't mean the two groups are the same, or that everyone fits into those. In my case I only pulled her because I had everyone I actually wanted and had some wishes to spare. She wasn't the only one I pulled that way too, and I don't touch those nearly as much.
@bitterblossom271
@bitterblossom271 2 года назад
@Ze TheGame don't be mad just because you listened some ppl on the internet and missed one of the best characters ever made lol luckily for you her rerun is just around the corner with the coming of 2.5 so follow your heart this time and live a happy and fulfilled life without feeling the need to vent your frustration on random youtube comments from months ago 💖💖💖💖💖💖
@Junjou0305
@Junjou0305 Год назад
This aged poorly and I'm all for it. Kokomi really became more and more desirable as the versions go by
@MissPtiteLove
@MissPtiteLove Год назад
Hey ! I'm hesitating about pulling fort sweet Kokomi. Do you think she'll be usefull for me if I managed to clear the abyss with prototype Mona as only healer in my freeze team? I still put more value on damage rather than heals... So I wonder if I could be a Kokomi enjoyer. I know she's an hydro applicator too, but some new char will be as well without the cons of here jelly fish staying in one place during an eternity (annoying against mobile enemies).
@Junjou0305
@Junjou0305 Год назад
@@MissPtiteLove ooh this is tough because I'm opposite. I use Kokomi over Mona because she heals a lot. Her skill has better range for hydro application and with the right stats it can easily have 100% uptime leading to consistent freezing. The way I see it, the more reliable the freezes are, the more window I have in dishing out better damage with the blizzard strayer. She's comfy and she mitigates a lot of risks which is especially helpful for players like me who do not play with the highest mechanical skill level. This means mistakes here and there does not affect DPS as much as without her safety net. But if you're more into a high risk high reward gameplay and you can play mona really well then I think she's still the better option for you. Eitherway I don't think you would regret pulling for Kokomi if you decide to get her. You may find her quite as enjoyable in other team comps outside freeze teams as well. Her interaction with dendro is looking really good too. Good luck on your pulls! 🙏
@MissPtiteLove
@MissPtiteLove Год назад
@@Junjou0305 Tysm for your answer! Well I like "the high risk high reward" gameplay but I could appreciate to have a confort pick in my box when I need to relax my brain 😅 Even if I've Albedo I decided to skip Zhongli cause I don't really like his gameplay... Kokomi is more appealing to me, but if Jean would join my box someday by loosing my 50/50, maybe I would have enough healers. I imagine playing Kokomi with Raiden & Fischl in Tazer team since Koko & Ei complete their down time each other. Thing I like with Kokomi is she's very flexible in term of team composition (freeze, Tazer, dendro, even some vape with Diluc) thanks to combine multiple roles. Jack of all trades but master of none... My issue is with the release of new char patch after patch, Kokomi might not be BiS compare to others. And Barbara & Mona could serve 2 specific roles as hydro catalyst 🤔
@MrFranzeluta
@MrFranzeluta 2 года назад
I don't understand how anyone can take anything you say in an offensive way when your voice is so calm and overall just so captivating to listen to.
@VarsII
@VarsII 2 года назад
I mean... there *is* twitter. ._.
@MrFranzeluta
@MrFranzeluta 2 года назад
@@VarsII I mean... words can be taken either way but when you put a voice behind them and it allows you to deliver your message in the right tone so there's no confusion about it... baffling how some people still manage to take it the wrong way.
@busyg67
@busyg67 2 года назад
Everything in the video is valid criticism and his tone isn’t even rude, idk why anyone takes this the wrong way and this is coming from a Kokomi wanter
@MrDekasOne
@MrDekasOne 2 года назад
The genshin community takes offence to anything and everything that is even close to criticism of any aspect of the game that's why the genshin community is one of the worst gaming communities ever
@norwegianboyee
@norwegianboyee 2 года назад
@@MrDekasOne Any community in existence is going to have toxic assholes. This has nothing to do with Genshin in particular.
@marcipher3
@marcipher3 2 года назад
Honestly I don't regret pulling for Kokomi. There's even some crazy people that have actually somehow not only turned her into a dps, but also made her crit! She's amazing in abyss against the pyro cube, and she's a great support for Ayaka since her jellyfish both heals her and makes sure the enemies stay frozen. Besides, she's the prettiest hero ever.
@trevorbrooks7816
@trevorbrooks7816 2 года назад
Her design is sailor moon vibes to the max and I love it. She's my favorite 5 star character I've obtained based on aesthetic
@batulraza4203
@batulraza4203 2 года назад
As someone who uses her with ayaka, she is amazing, considering ayaka functions best with a hydro support in order to keep enemies frozen
@anonymously6866
@anonymously6866 2 года назад
Fun fact: they fixed the crit issue
@grimmreapermk2315
@grimmreapermk2315 2 года назад
@@anonymously6866 no they didn't fix the crit issue dude it's still the same all they did was slightly buff her base damage and those that manage to remove the 100% crit rate are hacking the game there is no possible way to completely remove the 100% negative crit rate I think at best you probably could lower it down to 30 or 20% negative crit rate but that is it you would have to have a full DPS build if they truly want to fix kokomi the community needs to gang up on mihoyo and tell them and demand that they Nerf the - 100 crit rate for her future release otherwise they're going to see even worse sales on her if it's true what he said that only 20-something percent have her that just means if she were to get a rerun her sales will be even lower the main reason the meta players the whales themselves didn't pull for her was because of that negative 100% crit rate
@NKY5223
@NKY5223 2 года назад
@@grimmreapermk2315 its a flat -100% added to the stats iirc, and you can see ppl with >100% crit. hence >100% + -100% = >0%, nonzero crit!
@rirururu4697
@rirururu4697 2 года назад
Healing is actually really viable in co-op. I can't tell you how many times I ended up using Kokomi in co-op because no one else bothered to build a healer "because healers are useless" yet they can't survive a run or two without her.
@MonkeBrain07
@MonkeBrain07 Год назад
SO TRUE!!!
@TheZintastic
@TheZintastic Год назад
Heck, back when she was released I pulled her partly for multiplayer with a friend who didn't play Genshin nearly as much as I did, point being my characters were far higher leveled and stronger compared to their World Level. My two go-to units were Zhongli and Klee, but I'm very passive / support oriented player and I wanted Kokomi to begin with to be able to run Zhongli/Kokomi for fun. Then my friend in question - who mained and loved his Keqing from day 1 - also got Yoimiya who they fell in love with as well, so I ended up switching my Klee for Kokomi whenever we were playing together. And overall it worked like a charm. They were the main DPS and thus likely had more fun that way since they were "allowed to play the game" instead of my units killing everything and for trade I could feel like an immortal GOD with Zhongli/Kokomi while also keeping him alive. Neither of us play the game much (or at all anymore) due the lack of actual multiplayer content, but damn was it fun back then nevertheless.
@faye1134
@faye1134 Год назад
Exacy the reason why i built benny to be absolute healing machine
@MonkeBrain07
@MonkeBrain07 Год назад
@@faye1134 Noblesse healer Bennett is damn good
@faye1134
@faye1134 Год назад
@@MonkeBrain07 hell yea Can get up to 8700 hp per tick with hp-hp-healing build I remember someone asked if i run bennett on maiden's lol
@cocogoat1111
@cocogoat1111 2 года назад
I think it's refreshing to have a character where you don't hyperfocus on crit rate/dmg. DPS characters are getting a little too same-y and it's nice to shake it up and change the strategy.
@LC-hd5dc
@LC-hd5dc Год назад
im glad i got and built her but i don't think it changes much. the combat in this game is ultimately really samey so far.
@savanna2932
@savanna2932 Год назад
I agree, I personally love healers so most of my team is considered support with one dps
@terrahatvol7960
@terrahatvol7960 Год назад
Agreed! I only recently started watching videos of peoples builds and was surprised about the focus on crit rate/dmg and the hate toward QiQi. Like, sure I use her less for cryo cuz i have Ganyu, but her healing out does Noelle's and sometimes shields aren't needed, so she's a great pick for me. If I had the extra primos, I'd like to pull for Kokomi to get another hydro unit aside from Xingqiu and Barbara, and Candace is meh so far in my experience.
@VaskoGames
@VaskoGames 2 года назад
I pulled Koko on accident, was new to the game and trying to get all the 4 stars, got her on wish 32. Was told "Koko bad because -100 crit rate" so didn't touch her for a while. But randomly decided to build her up on a whim and now she's one of my favorite characters to play. With her on my team, no one dies! And the jellyfish makes it nice for selfish DPS characters like Yanfei to shine >:D Her burst turns her into a DPS unit for 10 seconds and also full heals my entire party. She's been super useful for co-op. Most people prefer using DPS characters and Koko is really good at keeping them alive. Imo she offers a bit of a different way to play the game (hehe RPG options) and I really enjoy playing her.
@rfnasua5350
@rfnasua5350 2 года назад
I use her with Yanfei too! 😂 Best addition to my Yanfei team. I looove Diluc, but because of her, my Yanfei's team outshines my Diluc team now. My team is Yanfei/Kokomi/Sucrose/Raiden. I love it coz Yanfei autolocks on enemies and can hit aerial and ground enemies. No more chasing around monsters!
@outrider8569
@outrider8569 2 года назад
As someone that uses underrated characters that get a lot of flak. Try not to let the community get to your head and play who you want. Every character in genshin is usable but some take more investment than others.
@kio9922
@kio9922 2 года назад
@@outrider8569 So True. And every character can be fun and dish out damage if built properly. Some people in the community fail to realize that the game was meant to be played "How we want", and they just want people to follow them. If this wasn't the case, then we'd be stuck with the free characters and there'd be no wishing 😂
@Soundwave1900
@Soundwave1900 2 года назад
Yeah, for a new player she's a godsent. I'm pretty sure on early stages she can deal more damage than any hyper carry. The problem starts when you're in the endgame and want to optimize your team to beat everraising in difficulty abyss. Which you might not even want to play so hey, have fun!
@jinghwacheok9099
@jinghwacheok9099 2 года назад
Its actually alot easier to build Kokomi than other character due to her low artifact requirement (less domain grinding). When the new set came out, it only took me 200 resin to get all the correct artifact she need to function. As a day 2 player AR58 that have been testing her since launch, i believe her damage is quite decent and have the most consistent Hydro off-field application (Yes better than mona as her jelly fish have 100% uptime with burst refresh) without requiring atk animation (XQ). She is a very good unit especially if you are still early in the game . She does enough damage to beat the abyss for you with just correct artifact Mainstat (substat does not matter that much) . I have personally tested multiple different Team that use Kokomi as the focus within Abyss. She is basically a jack of all trade for hydro (Off-field Hydro, DPS, Health , Tank). You will find it easy to use her in most team even in abyss until you find another Best in Slot unit (optional since you can clear all content with Kokomi anyway).
@ChaosXGaming13
@ChaosXGaming13 2 года назад
Personally, I actually kind of liked that she couldn't crit because it made farming artifacts for her MUCH easier. And sure, while she definitely doesn't do the most damage as a result, she's still a lot of fun, and her elemental skill synergizes well with short range freeze teams, personally I pair Kokomi with Ayaka and can destroy things by freezing them and then having Ayaka burst. Plus, nobody ever seems to complain if I take her into coop because they get guaranteed heals and depending on the domain and teammates, ez freeze or ez electro charged. She's a lot of fun, but I can still see why a lot of people chose to skip her. Maybe in the future we can see her rise up in the meta.
@kawazrumem
@kawazrumem 2 года назад
Oh yeah, much easier. Especially when you get explicitly crit dmg and rt circlets. I just want one hp piece, is it too much to ask for?
@galexydimond
@galexydimond 2 года назад
Omg same I use fishl bird and Kokomi jelly fish and ayaka for a lot of damage
@treesspeaklatin8950
@treesspeaklatin8950 2 года назад
What do u mean it makes farming for her much easier..?? You have to get hp and healing bonus while COMPLETELY avoiding crit stats, which is a lot harder than you might think. Basically for a character like bennett hp percent is still somewhat useful, even Def is at the very least getting some use. With kokomi you legit get NOTHING from crit stats meaning you have to avoid them at all costs... I don't get how that's easier to work with than any other character
@sayorii.8599
@sayorii.8599 2 года назад
@@treesspeaklatin8950 hp is easier to get than crit, u might get defense artifacts but that also happens when u try to farm for crit rate/damage
@sovietpersonman
@sovietpersonman 2 года назад
@@treesspeaklatin8950 People have tested and crit stats actually have the lowest chance to show up on artifacts so getting artifacts for Kokomi is in fact easier unless you have god luck and crit stats keep showing up on your artifacts
@luquinhas3065
@luquinhas3065 2 года назад
I pulled for kokomi and I absolutely love everything she offers, design, damage, healing, lore, everything, as someone that was waiting for her since the first inazuma trailer, I didn't care about her kit at all, I never see the kit of the characters as a reason to like or dislike them, I just look at them and try to get them lol, actually the kit is one of the last things I check in the characters I like.
@lethaldoseofweird9511
@lethaldoseofweird9511 2 года назад
It’s kinda interesting to see this video now, considering how the new updates have drastically inflated the need for healers in the game. Ocean-Hued Clam gives Kokomi a free 27k burst every three seconds if she’s built well, and shields are becoming less and less powerful, and even detrimental when fighting some of the newest leaked enemies. It sometimes feels like Kokomi was released as foreshadowing haha.
@AngelKittyKittyHole
@AngelKittyKittyHole 2 года назад
It’s kinda funny how they realised Kokomi was useless in game when she was released so they’ve had to retroactively add new artefacts and enemies to make her worthwhile lmao
@monemori
@monemori 2 года назад
@Ze TheGame That's like saying they nerfed HuTao because they added the pyro lector lol. Abyss rotations will keep changing, and in this boss-centered, single-target centered abyss, certain characters shine less (sucrose, beidou, venti, even kazuha to some extent, etc). A unit not working for a certain type of abyss doesn't make them bad. This is a good thing imo, because it makes the game more interesting as opposed ot if we always had to fight the exact same enemies.
@DhrithionVocals
@DhrithionVocals 2 года назад
I feel like they saw how kokomi was really hated on cuz according to many people she's just a "5* barbara" so they decided to add corrosion, enemies that ignore shields etc so that they indirectly buffed her they reallyyy want kokomi's sales to be higher her next banner lol- I'm personally not pulling since I want ayaka but she's really cool and I'd want her if I wasn't saving
@carolin7337
@carolin7337 2 года назад
@@AngelKittyKittyHole i'm pretty sure that was the plan all along tho🤔i don't think they realized that afterwards and therefore made those enemies to make her worthwhile but they had the plan of those enemies and just released her before them since they plan such things in advance but I might be wrong
@carolin7337
@carolin7337 2 года назад
@@MM-ly7cm I'm confused why you are replying this to me since I didn't say anything against her, I just said that they probably planned her artifact set and corrosion enemies in advance😅 that being said I totally agree with everything you said, I use Kokomi all the time and she is one of my favourite characters and whenever someone slanders her I also mention all the things that you just said because she just provides so much utility
@nev781
@nev781 2 года назад
the new clam set "fixed" her flaw of having to stay on field for too long to maximize her burst but doing piss poor damages while healing the party. thanks for your insights on her excellency by the way
@vjbd2757
@vjbd2757 2 года назад
You still need to maximize her healing though. And that's for just 30+k every few seconds. A normal rotation for a decently built DPS should cover that damage in less than a second.
@nev781
@nev781 2 года назад
@@vjbd2757 yeah thats why you pair her with ganyu in freeze comps, unless you needed to heal everyone using her burst because corrosion then she has to stay for too long, this set adds a bit more to her piss poor damage
@bloody4558
@bloody4558 2 года назад
@@vjbd2757 it's not that hard to Max her healing though Prototype Amber+ HP sands+ Healing boost already do half the job, ad while she is in her burst yo can easily get the rest of her healing while you attack. Also the DPS will cove only the bubble damage, the bubble damage + Her own damage + Jellyfish should actually make her damage relevant
@ch.7785
@ch.7785 2 года назад
@@vjbd2757 not only that, its a very sustainable dps around 20k per 3.5 second, AND also AOE, which solves kokomi's "splash attack but doesnt splash" problem.
@corusameoccasum1274
@corusameoccasum1274 2 года назад
Use Phys shred with her and she can easily do above 40k dmg.
@Ushionai
@Ushionai 2 года назад
I honestly have been using her since she came out she’s such a great healer. Yeah Barbara can heal but Kokomi is on another level plus she’s a tank and doesn’t freeze my characters when her jellyfish is out when I’m fighting Cryo enemies
@yeojin4thgenmainslayyer898
@yeojin4thgenmainslayyer898 2 года назад
this is a big pro for me
@Pet_Hedgehog
@Pet_Hedgehog 2 года назад
yeah, and people say she doesnt do damage, but honestly at c1 she can easily do 30-40k dmg per attack rotation and it will be even more with the new set, in my opinion for a healer that can heal over 40k hp from a single skill, she does a lot of damage.
@Pet_Hedgehog
@Pet_Hedgehog 2 года назад
@@debamchakraborty1143 well yeah i got very lucky and won the second 50/50 and it was the anniversary so i had more wishes to use, if it wasnt like that i wouldnt of got c1 in any way lol
@Pet_Hedgehog
@Pet_Hedgehog 2 года назад
@@debamchakraborty1143 i tried to dolphin for c1 hutao and didnt get her, instead got c1 mona and c0 hutao lol, still good stuff
@Pet_Hedgehog
@Pet_Hedgehog 2 года назад
@@evilmiyoho6742 thats very toxic mate, i know some people who find it harder to stay alive and they would really like a healer, and they do know how to play, besides youre missing the point of using whatever you like and personally a healer tank is very fun to play.
@From_A_Diverging_Timeline
@From_A_Diverging_Timeline 2 года назад
Rewatching this video I'm glad Kokomi found her place in Genshin meta. She's become a popular pick for freeze teams and i've seen her rise in the tier lists. She excels as a support, and as that she does her job well. She has role consolidation as a hydro applier , healer, TToDS holder. Most people are just using her burst to refresh the duration of her jellyfish, but her burst is good in situations where you need an "o crap" heal.
@anemojin4384
@anemojin4384 Год назад
and she can do passable damage of she has the clam set on
@ittodakimasu4814
@ittodakimasu4814 2 года назад
I literally just want her because she’s so pretty her character design is so elegant and aesthetic idc bout anything else
@OnlyGrafting
@OnlyGrafting 2 года назад
This and she can walk on water with burst = God tier character Design
@user-ir1xq8ll4y
@user-ir1xq8ll4y 2 года назад
@@OnlyGrafting jesus moves 🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️
@SangKi23
@SangKi23 2 года назад
Besides her visuals, what really drew me in is the fact that she can’t crit. As someone who likes stability and healers/support characters, it’s a god send. I think most people misunderstood the role ‘dps’ since it is commonly associated with hypercarries in the community. When dps could mean the damage per second for the whole team. Imo kokomi shines the best in an electro comp, that way her burst will be on almost a 100% uptime and she can become a good driver/enabler. Not as strong as a childe/sucrose taser comp but it’s still good and very comfortable. Plus her damage during burst is actually a pretty decent one for the enabler role, having a constant 6-7k (or 12-13k on vaporize) w/off field dps is actually nice. Not ‘meta’ but you can still complete abyss with her
@akaiyoru2681
@akaiyoru2681 2 года назад
Yes, same reason I picked her, I just was intrigued by no crits and her being both healer and a DPS. She is really good in electro charged and freeze teams, one of my favorite teams is Raiden, Fischl, Zhongli, Kokomi. I mean yeah, a lot of 5 stars and C6 Fischl, do not recommend for everyone, just not realistic for a F2P. But i get a lot of heals, reactions, energy, shields...this team can go against a ton of things, even Oceanid as...well I can just use Kokomi for healing and actively use Fischl and Raiden for dmg. It coincidentally is really strong against the new boss too, as the team is nigh unkillable and Zhongli provides the Geo against the wolf heads. I just love catalysts their hoaming just makes everything so much easier to hit
@phantomous_author3709
@phantomous_author3709 2 года назад
I placed her on my main team as a never take off one Main Team: Traveler, Keqing, Kokomi, Bennett or Jean I know my team is haphazard but if it works it works, Keqing is just way too versatile then add a shield from geo traveler if necessary Bennett for boost then Kokomi for healing
@daniiltimofeev1096
@daniiltimofeev1096 2 года назад
But the problem is, electro based reactions scale like sht(in a bad way). And outside of electro party, kokomi is almost useless. It's annoying, because I can clearly see what potential she has. She's just OVERBALANCED to the point where she doesn't fit well in almost none of her "roles"
@chid0uin
@chid0uin 2 года назад
Most of the players are obsessed with the idea that every characters should be a dps which is why they also regret skipping on them afterwards.
@phantasmalflight3896
@phantasmalflight3896 2 года назад
Yeah, I would definitely wish for her on a rerun, but sadly I want Raiden more
@kasui4620
@kasui4620 2 года назад
As someone with a triple crowned kokomi, I completely agree with you, the game is not hard enough as to need a dedicated healer in your party, kokomi can be used as a main dps with tazer team but she does suffer from massive downtime on her burst form which is her main damaging ability
@evydae1208
@evydae1208 2 года назад
lol the game is difficult enough for me 😰 i have to bring a healer everywhere i go because i die so often lol
@DEADBRO_
@DEADBRO_ 2 года назад
@@evydae1208 Lol same, the new Artifact Domain destroys me every time. Although i am F2p and my units have really shit artifacts and dmg output, So fights takes a fair bit of time to finish.
@magmatard8737
@magmatard8737 2 года назад
I just suck at this game so I NEED a healer on my team
@Democracyphobia
@Democracyphobia 2 года назад
thats why i dont over farm artifacts for my dps units so that i dont one shot every boss in the game . she is very usefull for freeze comps not just for healing . i play her with ayaka , its a blast .
@rjacks3284
@rjacks3284 2 года назад
another thing that makes her strong yet also weak at the same time is your investment level in kokomi. most characters are weak with low investment but much stronger when properly built over the long haul. the thing about kokomi is she is very easy to build and reaches her peak potential very easily the problem is she doesn't get much stronger with high investment.
@savagebiker1879
@savagebiker1879 Год назад
1 year later: Why everyone plays: Kokomi
@Ryuu39
@Ryuu39 Год назад
You predicted it
@savagebiker1879
@savagebiker1879 Год назад
@@Ryuu39 energy +2
@Crysox
@Crysox 2 года назад
When I first saw her in inazuma trailer I knew i'd pull her no matter what her role would be. And I totally not regret having her as a healer since healers aren't supposed to rely on crit dmg it's not a pb not having crit rate. She still deals like 7k dmg per auto attack in her ult form which is nice
@venti9925
@venti9925 2 года назад
I'm against leaks but I saw her in her original form as Mimi and as soon as I saw her rework into Kokomi I screamed!!! Mostly because during a survey in the mail, I requested more long haired characters. And then I saw THISS. xD
@venti9925
@venti9925 2 года назад
Like.. No choice but to Stan her
@Moon1tan
@Moon1tan 2 года назад
Meanwhile in Asia Server: almost every single coop experience I've had recently always had at least 1 kokomi in domains Most of them are Japanese and it makes sense since she seems to be popular with jp players Which is great to see that she gets so much love
@yesno4245
@yesno4245 2 года назад
I love Kokomi(lk)
@ilyeonjun
@ilyeonjun 2 года назад
ppl always bring kokomi when i bring hu tao
@gagehoera9773
@gagehoera9773 2 года назад
SAMEEE
@vegacelestial7075
@vegacelestial7075 2 года назад
I am actually kinda confused too as I always find at least one kokomi in Asia. But it is nice to know jp players adore kokomi 🥺
@Delarius86
@Delarius86 2 года назад
@@vegacelestial7075 Is it that confusing? ownership of Kokomi is about 27% and since in coop no one wants to ever be the healer someone will eventually put out Kokomi, because, in most coop domains she is the most valuable unit, keeping everyone alive regardless of lag and skill issues. The odds of seeing here are higher than one would expect. Also, I think that the number people that pulled on her banner actually might have wanted her (and would have spend some resources on her), I think people have been burned enough to finally understand that "building pity" is a lie. Though, some will still fall into that trap.
@randomcatname7792
@randomcatname7792 2 года назад
Why no one plays Kokomi: because she is so incredibly beautiful that if they had her on their team, they would spend all their time just looking at her perfect design
@Jesus_is_real
@Jesus_is_real 2 года назад
critical😬
@EliteMARCO554
@EliteMARCO554 2 года назад
@@Jesus_is_real no crit 🤧
@kallenlivesmatter3229
@kallenlivesmatter3229 2 года назад
No and you can guess why?
@Haru-rs2su
@Haru-rs2su 2 года назад
That's me... I can't stop looking at her. Maybe it's the fact that I love anything sea related and anything pastel coloured but damn... She's beautiful.
@randomcatname7792
@randomcatname7792 2 года назад
@@Haru-rs2su So you are a huge coral fan then, huh? They did so well with her design just to make her unusable (in meta, which is irrelevant) :(
@zkart8038
@zkart8038 2 года назад
People don't use her because most assholes who trashed her never used her..and that affected a lot of people's likelihood to pull for her. Everybody who got her, has never taken her out of their party. She is very useful.
@justgames2860
@justgames2860 2 года назад
True. I never take her out of my team.
@mycarima3497
@mycarima3497 2 года назад
You're right. I had changed my teams several times but still can't take her out of my team.
@MonkeBrain07
@MonkeBrain07 Год назад
So I currently have two main parties, one is a typical vape Hu Tao and the other is freeze comp Ayaka. Kokomi is in the freeze comp one. Guess which one I use more for exploring and playing through the story. It's the one with Kokomi. Her heals genuinely give me a sense of safety when playing this game. Say what you want, but she's the best healer and the best hydro applier in the game and you can't convince me otherwise. I fucking love her.
@KaienShirayuki
@KaienShirayuki 2 года назад
"Why NO ONE Plays Kokomi" *me sitting here, crying, clutching Kokomi I've got day 1 of her release, crowned her, and invested everything I've got* Maybe that's just me, loving dedicated healers that can dish out damage. Even pre 2.3 patch, I've dealt tons of damage with Kokomi. For the record: I've got lucky and got Everlasting Moonglow. So yeah. I've got double-lucky + I'm kinda biased. I'm not mentioning Ocean Hued Clam set, because this vid was recorded pre 2.3 patch, but honestly - this set did her really good. I bet she would have better opinion if the set was released along her.
@wilburforce8046
@wilburforce8046 2 года назад
I disagree honestly. That set is nice but let’s not pretend it fixes any of her issues. A little burst of physical damage doesn’t fix the completion issues she has, and the lack of designated unique role. Currently she’s still only the best at being a hydro applier and healer hybrid. Ocean hue doesn’t fix that. Other artifact sets are better in comparison as well. The ocean hue set is kopium just like Kokomi imo. (I think Muhoyo did that on purpose knowing damn well everyone would do that domain for the geo buffs) I say this as someone with the full artifact set and her five star weapon.
@VladStopTalking
@VladStopTalking 2 года назад
Why not just play Bennett or any other healer. They all do much more damage than Kokomi lol. Even Barbara does with vapes.
@ravenwings1218
@ravenwings1218 2 года назад
I triple crowned my kokomi as well and she got the purple doughnut too+ the ocean hues clam set. She is honestly really fun in a teaser chomp and does pretty good dmg, around 10k per hit and 27k every 3 seconds with the new set, when she is in her ult. I know she isn’t the best dps in the game, but she isn’t as bad as people claim her to be.
@Miss_Lavender_Tea
@Miss_Lavender_Tea 2 года назад
@@VladStopTalking maybe becuz they rlly like kokomi??? playing characters u like matters more than playing meta
@amielardiente2639
@amielardiente2639 2 года назад
@@VladStopTalking maybe u like meta characters more than playing characters they like it's on them if they want kokomi or not.
@cassidy_2254
@cassidy_2254 2 года назад
as a kokomi main, thank you for saying this. She is deffo really fun to use especially if you have charas that has diff types of elements on her team. Though the way she doesnt have a crit rate is probs why people dont use her
@oscarfunez3806
@oscarfunez3806 2 года назад
There's more to it than just dmg alone. The way her kit works is for herself. Which doesn't benefit the team. Your better off running your DPS and other units to get things done quick. Only early game are you given some leeway but late game. You have to start making big numbers for the better rewards. That's just how it is in most games. Same formula. Her constellations makes it very confusing why they made her this way to begin with. Besides not crit. Literally her cons focus heavily on her burst doing the work. But it's so inefficient it's just not worth it. If I want to run an EM build. I could just use barbara for that or Mona. Besides being a healer which ultimately burst healers already outperform her because it's faster and lets you swap back to your main pair. Example. Lisa and xinqiu. Great at dealing electro charge procs. Besides the major issues. She can provide easy Hydro applications for certain teams. But again. Another issue. Her Skill ticks slow.
@cassidy_2254
@cassidy_2254 2 года назад
@@oscarfunez3806 Thanks for the criticism, i'll probably build my hydro dpses more somewhere in the future but for now, im just gonna chill with kokomi until i can build her properly and bench her at some part
@Wingedlight-nn4hl
@Wingedlight-nn4hl 2 года назад
Also her damage becomes really good if you give her Ocean Hued Clams cuz it converts all of that excess healing into damage and that fixed one of the main issues people had with her and you can also break the damage cap for the bubble by having artifacts that have physical attack bonus on them as a sub or main stat and Shenhe can also work with Kokomi + Clams cuz her Burst decreases physical resistance of enemies and the bubble deals pure physical damage.
@kanta4549
@kanta4549 2 года назад
@@Wingedlight-nn4hl Im pretty sure phys bonus does not affect the clam damage, but phys res shred does(superconduct, zhonglie shield etc.)If it did that would kinda defeat the purpose of the set imo which os to build characters for healing but still some damage out of it.
@Wingedlight-nn4hl
@Wingedlight-nn4hl 2 года назад
@@kanta4549 Shenhe and Kokomi + Clams is gonna be good if ya want to run it when Shenhe comes out next patch
@natxon
@natxon 2 года назад
I'm one of those players who got Kokomi unexpectedly. I was a bit hesitant to build her because I'm always short on resources. Recently I just leveled her up to 70 and her E to 6, and she immediately replaced Barbara in my taser team (Beidou - Fischl/Electro Traveler - Sucrose). Her healing per tick is really high (with 4 maiden piece) and she just literally outheals any dmg my party took. She also shines a lot in Floor 11 (Pyro hypostasis). I can guarantee that I'm really satisfied. Those who have Kokomi, don't hesitate and build her now!!
@michaeldaude6374
@michaeldaude6374 2 года назад
kokomi really shines with beidou and fischl for sure, thats the team im running, only character i change is the fourth unit depending on need, sucrose for vv support or yanfei for ex as main dps
@KawashiK
@KawashiK 2 года назад
Even though I also use Kokomi for my Ayaka Freeze team, I personally love to use Kokomi as an On-Field DPS on my Mono Hydro team. Kokomi with Tenacity+Proto Amber is definitely powerful at enabling a Mono Hydro team. Aside from buffing the team, dealing extra damage, and regaining a portion of energy, she excels at staying put that no matter what the enemy does, she will not stutter her NA string. My Hydro team is Kokomi C0(On-field Sub-DPS), Xinqiu C6 (Main Off-field DPS), Sucrose C5 (VV Shred, Gather, Sub-DPS), and Barbara C2 (Hydro Buff, TTales, Noblesse Support).
@Marcus-cj3rh
@Marcus-cj3rh 2 года назад
my lvl70 laevel6talents 4pc tenacity kokomi fr destroyed pyrocube xd
@kittenmimi5326
@kittenmimi5326 2 года назад
Yeah. People can say whatever crap about hee, to me she's great, has many utility and does her job super well. As healer prolly best healer tbh
@kittenmimi5326
@kittenmimi5326 2 года назад
@@KawashiK I'm still farming artifacts and I hope to someday create an alternate, on field dps build for her. With off field supports like raiden, beidou, and or bennet xiangling, or xingqiu. Right now she's on healer build
@_Shay_
@_Shay_ 2 года назад
Well video didn’t age all that well Kokomi’s abyss usage went way up Of course the new set She got a great team comp And just more and more people are realizing Kokomi isn’t that bad.
@MM-ly7cm
@MM-ly7cm 2 года назад
Yup totally agree. That fact that her usage rate is so high in abyss means that people do in fact play her 😭
@TrisTris0
@TrisTris0 2 года назад
Abyss usage data isn't that accurate as because it only counts for players who have 36'd stars the abyss
@MM-ly7cm
@MM-ly7cm 2 года назад
@@TrisTris0 so you’re telling me that Kokomi is only popular for people who want to 100% the abyss? Doesn’t that just put her on an even higher pedestal?
@mariam-bq8od
@mariam-bq8od 2 года назад
in the beginning the creator pointed it out how this was scripted before the new set, no hate tho
@TrisTris0
@TrisTris0 2 года назад
@@MM-ly7cm the formula for the abyss usage data is also flawed, because its (people who use the character/people who own the character) for example, 5 people pull kokomi and all of them use kokomi, leaving her with 100% usage. 100 people pull kazuha but only 50 people use him, giving him 50% usage
@wifiwodhyde
@wifiwodhyde 2 года назад
"No one play kokomi" Me: look at the abyss use rate confusingly
@Kyouno
@Kyouno 2 года назад
I had a a coop game with three other random players while trying to farm for the new artifacts. One of them says “I hate Kokomi” but they didn’t really mean it. Just players having fun :)
@Written_in_the_Starss
@Written_in_the_Starss 2 года назад
I can understand if people dislike Kokomi but it's not fair saying they hate her.
@foxshoot3138
@foxshoot3138 2 года назад
I hater her but because i lose my 100% to her :c
@biscuit1595
@biscuit1595 2 года назад
@@foxshoot3138 Why did you wish on her banner if you didnt want her?
@emptypasta2137
@emptypasta2137 2 года назад
@@biscuit1595 some people don't have one thing "patient"
@Sara-ko7rn
@Sara-ko7rn 2 года назад
Same for me, it was Hu Tao main who said that. They were just joking. I know Hu Tao main hates healer in general lol.
@matunusdonnerhammer3423
@matunusdonnerhammer3423 2 года назад
Many people forget that balancing is an important aspect of game design. If a character was as tough as Zhongli healed as well ad Qiqi and dealt damage like Hu Tao this would de-value any other character. She is a Jack of all Trades and thus a master of none. Her greatest advantage is that she is can perform multiple roles while only taking up one slot in your team. I think she is pretty good as a reactive carry that can also heal herself. Of course her supporting characters (often Xianling, Beidou or Fischl) must be well built, but she is still one of the best characters for the Abyss team, that doesn't have Zhongli. I don't think she should be able to crit or pass her ultimate to her team mates but making her jellyfish could be more mobile
@OdirilSmallfish
@OdirilSmallfish 2 года назад
Can you say the same about Yoimiya? Aside from Bow's targetting being completely ass in Genshin, she has almost no AoE, She's the only Pyro unit that has ICD in every aspect of her kit, and her ST-focused orientation doesn't even pull ahead of Hu Tao, So she's neither a niche unit excelling in one thing nor is she a jack of all trades
@xXzman9000Xx
@xXzman9000Xx 2 года назад
well that's the thing tho, as far as game balance is concerned, healing isn't "balanced" at all, and i mean that by, its not useful. you say it would be broken if a character could heal AND do damage, and you are right, but then you gotta ask why just healing isn't enough... and it all comes down to how the game is designed and balanced. it heavily favors damage over everything else. heck even shield characters don't get used if ALL they bring is just a shield. a good example is zhongli has all resistance shred and a massive aoe instant freeze that doesn't require reactions. diona can shield, provide a ton of cryo particles, can heal, and is good at applying cryo, beidou while not normally used for her shield, is used as one of the best off field dps and is amazing at applying electro, even noel which is the worst of the good shielders has the bonus of being able to heal and get a emergency shield when a character gets low health. the bad shielders are thoma and xinyan which bring nothing else to the table other then their shield, and some times also ruin their teams damage actively by taking reactions. also if you wanna be crazy and really show the difference here, look at kaeya or yanfei and their shields. sure they need constellations for theirs, and they aren't normally focused around them or even used for them, but with their shields they make better shield characters then the bad dedicated shield character precisely because they bring more to the table.
@aibadenshi
@aibadenshi 2 года назад
Well Noelle is fully build. 1: She can rival Zhongli shield (if she block damage on herself because Def can help negate damage.) 2: Heal more then enough for your team. 3: Deal more then enough damage that you can 36 star abyss. 4: And she actually is that jack of all trait master of none character. 5: And she the 4* that everyone have.
@rjacks3284
@rjacks3284 2 года назад
survivability should come at the cost of dps loss. hutao and zhongli are perfect examples for each. but good this this is genshin and you can have 4 teammates giving you dps and survivability. which is why kokomi being mediocre jack of all trades holds her down. granted the game is pretty easy and casual so kokomi is perfectly fine as long as you enjoy playing her.
@xXzman9000Xx
@xXzman9000Xx 2 года назад
@@rjacks3284 issue is healing doesn't equal survivability in the abyss if you don't have enough dps to survive the clock... you can't heal the clock to get more time, and you can't use a shield to stop the clock. your only option is more dps or you fail. playing casually is fine, but if you ever want to do abyss after playing casually you will have issues. case in point, i'm a day one player who played pretty casually. i played daily tho and kept up with all daily tasks, but i didn't grind out one specific character, i spread my resources out. as of right now i just for the first time hit 34 stars in abyss but 36 stars still seems far off. i could throw a healer in to make my runs less stressful but its gonna cost me at least 2 stars.
@kerrbeo
@kerrbeo 2 года назад
Video aged like milk
@DukeRNGesus
@DukeRNGesus 2 года назад
I got lucky getting Kokomi as a f2p, wasn't aiming for her, was just making wishes on event banner, got mona on 27 and Kokomi at 37. Never used her until the new set came out and so glad I have her
@pepitothefrogito7372
@pepitothefrogito7372 2 года назад
Wishing on event banner just for the sake of wishing? That's new.
@kelkellys
@kelkellys 2 года назад
what set?
@DukeRNGesus
@DukeRNGesus 2 года назад
@@kelkellys husk of opulent dreams
@explosiveturkey4706
@explosiveturkey4706 2 года назад
@@DukeRNGesus You mean Ocean-Hued Clam?
@DukeRNGesus
@DukeRNGesus 2 года назад
Yes you are right, had a brain fart lol
@tyronetalam8488
@tyronetalam8488 2 года назад
I dont particularly care that kokomi can't crit or deal super large damage honestly, i got her specifically for her healing and it's enough that she can provide constant wet status to enemies for me. It's super handy since I use Diluc (for evaporation) and Beidou (for electrocution) in my daily main team. She's also really easy and fast to build (well for me at least), since she mostly just needs HP artifacts (boi do i get a lotta those). Her overhealing is also very welcome honestly, esp with the new artifact, set (muahahaha). Overall i honestly don't particularly care about damage dealing and stuff, i have other characters that could do that for me, plus as long as my characters are strong enough to not die, i'm happy. Then again im not a meta player so
@EsperDLC
@EsperDLC 2 года назад
Thiss
@kkswiftymeow
@kkswiftymeow 2 года назад
I feel like us diluc mains can really appreciate her
@Redheart709
@Redheart709 2 года назад
not to trivialize this but... xingqiu is a much better support. just slap sac sword or fav sword for energy recharge and you have a more consistent hydro applier who can also heal and trigger electro charged for beidou way more often (overloaded vape charged as well if you have diluc out while both of their ults are active) if you need more healing, slap a flower on him. hes useable at level 20 with a sac sword and energy recharge sands. diluc wants the most field time, and kokomi takes away from that, harming your overall dps. xingqiu just needs his e or q up and then you kick him off the field, thus overall increasing your dps.
@tyronetalam8488
@tyronetalam8488 2 года назад
@@evilmiyoho6742 ok, i don't need her critting.
@arisa835
@arisa835 2 года назад
@@evilmiyoho6742 mind to explain why..?
@diegorico6502
@diegorico6502 2 года назад
I mean kokomi only needs 2 things to become more desirable: 1) Make her able to reposition her damned jellyfish 2) Make her jellyfish DMG scale with Max HP not ATK There, kokomi is fixed.
@silverhawkscape2677
@silverhawkscape2677 2 года назад
Seriously. Split scaling doesn't work. They designed the Artifact susbtat RNG. They shpuld know.
@Mars-gg4ek
@Mars-gg4ek 2 года назад
when she was first being designed her jellyfish scaled on hp and for some ungodly they switched it to atk there were reports of her jellyfish hitting for 34k per tick with no buffs out of her ult
@Pangsit969
@Pangsit969 2 года назад
@@Mars-gg4ek im pretty sure it was typo not that they changed it
@jamblastwizard
@jamblastwizard 2 года назад
if they kept the same multipliers kokomi would be op as hell LMAO it’d be nice if they would do that tho, as someone who uses kokomi a lot and even has her namecard she really doesn’t do much dmg for my team, only viable as a support. her healing is great tho
@zerchi8843
@zerchi8843 2 года назад
also increase the duration of burst
@angelotorrelli7478
@angelotorrelli7478 2 года назад
For those who got her by accident (like me) she's an amazing support for hyper carrys and snapshots because she can use TTDS and tenacity set at same time. The best support for Ayaka.
@theianeia
@theianeia 2 года назад
She's good but not the best. Mona can do it too but with extra 50% dmg bonus from her burst. Morgana team already have Diona as a healer so Kokomi's healing ability isn't as valuable.
@mattiswan1
@mattiswan1 2 года назад
@@theianeia but using kokomi in morgana allows you to use a higher dps unit in place of diona, for example rosaria or ayaka
@Neisse
@Neisse 2 года назад
@@mattiswan1 diona isn't just as a healer but also as a particle generator (also the reason why nobody uses qiqi morgana)
@rjdoughty5230
@rjdoughty5230 2 года назад
Kid you not did a one pull and got her dont reget it so good
@shiro1369
@shiro1369 2 года назад
@@mattiswan1 yeah now that shenhe is in, kokomi's shinra tensei should be better and easier than mona's morgana or moryana
@CookieTaiga
@CookieTaiga 8 месяцев назад
Im here the day video Why everyone play Kokomi came out 😂
@CookieTaiga
@CookieTaiga 8 месяцев назад
Oh how the table have turn
@sebastianheck49
@sebastianheck49 2 года назад
Glad YT recommended me this channel. Really like your calm narration. I think her 2 biggest flaws you covered are: - Her scaling isn't enough to compensate her inability to crit. - There isn't content were pure healers are favored. Because of the timer in the abyss, everything is a dps check which combined with the stinginess of resources lead to the hated meta in a singleplayer game. "Which characters i should build/pull to beat the hardest content in the game with the least amount of effort?" Hell, even the domains have a timer but is far more generous and you can be carried by whales or higuer AR's in co-op. Genshin doesn't have co-op or pvp content like an MMORPG where healers and tanks are mandatory and on high demand or else your party gets wiped out. Even when you need a defensive option, shielders are better because they neglect the random interrumpting/stunlocking floor bs this game has.
@pr0ntab
@pr0ntab 2 года назад
But if the new wolf boss or Signora is a sign of content to come, I feel like Mihoyo wants to justify the existence of healing strategy. I have lost count of the number of Natasuki Island domain runs that a Koko had to carry when the second phase went to hell in coop.
@rfnasua5350
@rfnasua5350 2 года назад
@@pr0ntab the new wolf boss Istg. The corrosion stack is too much. One second all party members are healthy, the next second, all got 50% health.
@Nhauex320
@Nhauex320 2 года назад
@@rfnasua5350 I'd say that to counter the wolf boss you should dodge it's attacks, it's a big and slow monster and for me it's the easiest to dodge enemy, of course when it does hit you are gonna need a few eggs
@annaairahala9462
@annaairahala9462 2 года назад
@@rfnasua5350 It's about time attacks are actually doing damage, people complain about the meta being all dps and then complain when Mihoyo tries to fix that issue
@Soli167
@Soli167 2 года назад
I think what hurt Kokomis sales the most was anniversary shenanigans and the immense hate she got for not being able to crit/being a healer-dps hybrid. Her role as a jack of all trades is both a boon and fault to her, she can do dmg/healing/apply hydro but doesn't excel at them. Her multipliers dont make up for her lack of crit, her A4 passive is very interesting but the numbers are just too low because she cant crit. A good thing for Kokomi users though is that MHY is slowly implementing more corrosion mechanics, increasing her value even more as she heals a lot more consistently than other healers.
@Rubber_duckie_floating
@Rubber_duckie_floating 2 года назад
You forgot about the archon quest.
@jenniferchaulam
@jenniferchaulam 2 года назад
@@Rubber_duckie_floating /oh yea the archon quest was horrendous, no one important was memorable (at least, not to the extent of the Mondstadt's and Liyue's archon quest), only the climax and Teppei's story
@rfnasua5350
@rfnasua5350 2 года назад
She also came after Raiden so people have no primos left or money to top up. And all the anniv primos enabled those who want her to pull for her without spending anything. I was able to pull her with just using all anniv and event primos.
@Noasleep
@Noasleep 2 года назад
The hate she received is just plain weird, people just went on board in the hate train, thing that Twitter started 🙄 just because she didn't crit, she doesn't crit cuz she doesn't need to crit, I even seen some people trying to get her to crit and she ends up doing shit dmg,and people are like: she's trash blah blah blah and I'm like just face palming, but oh well whatever I'll let the retards try to make every character in to dps in a game where that is just pointless...
@Shiiwata
@Shiiwata 2 года назад
her sales in japan were actually really high because they don't really care about meta or whatever, they only care if the character is cute or not
@oddpotato4038
@oddpotato4038 2 года назад
This kinda aged quickly lol... back then Kokomi have been regarded as the worse 5* and now almost everyone appreciates her hydro application.
@wws7284
@wws7284 Год назад
aged like milk
@ceminar8931
@ceminar8931 2 года назад
After seeing your video I feel proud to have her. Haven't used her In a while, but she was of great help when I did. I prefer healer over food because the human stomach is very limited and pausing a battle puts me out of the zone what kills my character regardless.
@ElementEarth100
@ElementEarth100 2 года назад
healers truly do carry our team sometimes. like in the raiden battle my diona was like: its my time to shine! 897 healing ._. *rebuilds diona for more hp* 1.8 k heal per tick. much better :>
@MrKyledane
@MrKyledane 2 года назад
Totally agree with this, If one dies, the rest of my team drop like dominoes and I'm teleporting to the nearest Statue of the Seven and starting over.
@pronxolotl
@pronxolotl 2 года назад
You don't have the NRE? It's pretty cheap to build.
@artillerbee1559
@artillerbee1559 2 года назад
I’ve been waiting for this! I love kokomi! Everything about her is amazing to me, though she may have low numbers I just love sea animals and her design is so well done! Despite all that genshin is a game and games are meant to be fun! So no matter what people tell you, you can use any unit you want! (Also second)
@foxshoot3138
@foxshoot3138 2 года назад
my only problem with her ,.... he cant do crits,
@artillerbee1559
@artillerbee1559 2 года назад
@@foxshoot3138 yes I’m aware, but that’s the beauty of it, it’s more about fun than viability to me
@michapiasta3072
@michapiasta3072 2 года назад
I think she should have a buff of some kind. Like elemental mastery, or even buffing teams crit stats.
@foxshoot3138
@foxshoot3138 2 года назад
@The World but i want my hidro dps >:UUUU i have her and its a love hate relation because i have the many healers but no dps( yanfei and maybe childre ) but its a 5 stars quiqui can heal sayu can heal , bernet can heal , but sayu can be a fun under performance dps, qiqi works form dps to permafrost team , and bernet , its a upgrade vercion of barbara but i lost my 100 in my first pull when i only wanna the ice nun :C
@foxshoot3138
@foxshoot3138 2 года назад
@The World but idk why i dont hit hit him enoguth i just use kokomi+yanfey sakarosa i try to use him but dont work for my i have the 2 pices with atak xian and childe its fun but i dont have enought damage, if i compare him vs yanfei team woth his 12k charged atacks wiout ult at cv 3 And without sacarosa and fish reactions well childe dont do to much damage
@sorcierenoire8651
@sorcierenoire8651 Год назад
lmao aged like milk
@syarifairlangga4608
@syarifairlangga4608 2 года назад
Her passive should be Convert All Crit Rate into Healing Bonus. So our CR always 0% but healing bonus will be so high
@kawaiilone
@kawaiilone Год назад
omg you are a genius
@fae_gavan7582
@fae_gavan7582 4 месяца назад
I prefer it to convert crit rate and damage into HP. Imagine how high her HP would be that way!
@jasmine9228
@jasmine9228 2 года назад
Personally, as someone who owns Kokomi, I find her kit not too bad tbh. With the range of new characters coming out with more interesting kits, I think it's important to redefine or at least re-think how team comps should be. Kokomi isn't a dedicated main on-field/off-field DPS and although she is amazing support, I find her best used as a driver of reactions and bursts. How I usually use her is that I put down her jelly, activate everyone else's skills/bursts and then bring Kokomi out to dish out damage, oftentimes with her burst. She works really well with off-field supports and she's just really comfy and good to use because you don't have to worry about being one-shotted if you miss a rotation or get hit. Added to the fact that she's a catalyst user, all her attacks carry elemental damage so reactions are easier to proc. Although I do wish she has higher multipliers, I think she works really well in what she has been advertised to do, and I really enjoy using her. I personally really like the approach Mihoyo is going with diversifying team builds and character kits, and what made me interested in Kokomi is her lack of crit. I can't tell you how sick I am of crit. Literally, every other character requires it to reach maximum potential and I am sick of it. Kokomi's kit is a bit weird to take into at first glance, but she's great. I love her.
@ronsongathus9634
@ronsongathus9634 2 года назад
As the video said, She has all the tools to be amazing 5 stars but the circumstance in Genshit design is that DPS outshines everything and is high in demand for Genshit content. Every game has the different roles of Tank, Support, Healer, Dps, Crowd Control, etc.... while Genshit only has DPS 1, DPS 2, Sub DPS 1 and Sub DPS 2. Yeah, the DPS support is the only thing you need in Genshit. It is surprising when someone points out to me like that, I'm in all realization too. Personally in the past, I like ALL the characters Vars made videos about why no one plays and don't get the reason why. However, after looking in-depth into his videos and explanation, most character design itself is cool, works and less likely to flaw.... the only thing flaw is the Genshit as a whole. Seriously, you can't find a game like this that any other role is useless and the only good roles are sub DPS, sub DPS, sub-DPS and DPS.... wtf... So now, I like ALL the characters and know why, thanks to Vars and some players pointing it out.
@yuzzo92
@yuzzo92 2 года назад
​@@ronsongathus9634 at no point in genshin the only useful role is DPS. It's the community over-exagerating their importance (not unlike what your comment does) because everyone wants big pp/whale damage. Roles are important and as more characters come along, they become wider in potential and flexibility.
@jasmine9228
@jasmine9228 2 года назад
@@ronsongathus9634 I think it's important to take into account that Genshin is an evolving game, and with each update, the so-called meta will shift in accordance with what the devs will introduce. Yes, maybe your perspective holds true if we're talking solely about the Spiral Abyss and other timed content, but that's not the entirety of the game. Even then, Genshin has shown an alternative to Spiral Abyss which was the Labyrinth Warriors last patch, and Kokomi performed splendidly. Kokomi is a fine character. It's just that the content available permanently right now doesn't appreciate healers as much as they do for main DPS/hypercarry units. In any case, I'm gonna keep enjoying my Kokomi and continue being immortal against artificially created puppies. Who knows what the future will bring? Maybe Kokomi's skillset will be more appreciated once more content is out.
@kittenmimi5326
@kittenmimi5326 2 года назад
We should stop this obsession with dps dps dps, not dps = bad. There are other roles in the game and mhy is trying to steer us towards that direction asw
@kittenmimi5326
@kittenmimi5326 2 года назад
@@jasmine9228 splendidly? The labyrinth of fog? Seriously? Definitely not when they decide to always put that stupid curse on my main dps.
@sreeragsathyan7349
@sreeragsathyan7349 2 года назад
I feel she's perfectly fine as she is. I don't think people who never used her would agree but I actually think most people who use her knows how valuable of a character she is. Her e would never let you die. I mean I use Klee and she has never died when kokomi is in my team. Even Bennet couldn't keep Klee from dying because of Klee's very low defense and HP and sometimes Bennet's q is the reason Klee dies because it is very prone to overload. And I feel her hydro application is very underrated. Everyone says xingque has the best hydro application but I feel that's only true when you fight one opponent and I agree it's way faster. Kokomi's e has pretty high AOE so if there are more enemies in the field, she applies hydro to more enemies and can do those crazy reactions in AOE. The only weakness of her reaction is that she may cause the reaction but if you adjust your attacks properly or use another support with her(which is easily possible since kokomi does almost all the jobs a support should since she is the most versatile character), then that weakness won't be a problem. And she's also a very good damage absorber because of her huge HP. Also, her utility is one of the best in the game since she is usable in every domain and against every enemies in the game since she's a healer. And her aesthetics is really good so it's very hard to get tired of playing her. Kokomi is my most used character in my team since I got her as according to me she's very powerful and I never get bored of her animations.
@jadecoolness101
@jadecoolness101 2 года назад
Zhongli and Diona also tend to have high HP and can absorb damage. "Never letting your team die" isn't all that valuable when the meta favors killing your enemy before they kill you, rather than prolonged grindy fights. Kokomi is a terrible unit in this game, due to being a pure healer and not having the proper buffs to make up for the lost damage. But then she also doesn't contribute any buffs to the main DPS, meaning the is a hindrance on the team. I willingly and intentionally pulled her and I use her because I WANT to, but if I wanted to do more damage the first step would be to replace Kokomi.
@sreeragsathyan7349
@sreeragsathyan7349 2 года назад
@@jadecoolness101 even if I want good damage, I wouldn't replace kokomi. Maybe, your playstyle simply differs from mine. Zhongli have high HP but does he heal? Diona has healing and shield but she doesn't provide as much damage as kokomi which is 11k consistent charged attack damage and 5-8k consistent normal attack damage in her burst form and 16k off field damage from the bubble every 3 seconds (new set even if you have trash substats) and 27k in her burst form. For an off field healer/hydro support, these are huge numbers. Every character in the game have different roles. Diona and zhongli can't do some important things what kokomi does and the vice versa is also true. And meta is very subjective. With the introduction of corrosion, not letting you die has become very important. And sumeru is expected to have more shield ignoring damages and there healers would play a major part and will take a huge step in meta. Were you able to do the corrosion floor 11 without healers? It's not just about what you want. This is true in most cases but in certain places where corrosion comes to play, healers become a need and kokomi is the best healer. And you said kokomi doesn't give buff. What character other than Bennet gives a major attack buff? Almost no one but they have something else to be very useful meta wise like hydro application for xingque and this applies for kokomi as well. She is a major applicator and can cause AOE effect of vaporise and electro charge(aoe electro charge is too powerful). So she heals a lot, gives you off field damage and 63k AOE onfield damage every 3 seconds(more if you have a support like ficshl in your team) and is also the only large AOE hydro applicator and does that for almost the entire time of combat. And most of these is off field so she doesn't need a huge amount of screen time like so many other 5 stars to do her job. For me, this is very important in my playstyle. Because I don't need separate slots for a healer and hydro support. I want both in one so kokomi is very important to my playstyle. And since you find kokomi very underwhelming, please tell me what artifacts, weapon and teams you use her on. I will help you if I can
@jadecoolness101
@jadecoolness101 2 года назад
@@sreeragsathyan7349 my Diona can do 5k per arrow in her e, and there's 5 arrows, meaning she does 25k. Per E. And she has sac bow, meaning she busts out a good 50k of damage. Her burst supplies my main dps with extra EM, that contributes FAR more DPS than Kokomi ever could. Not to mention the shield giving movement speed and stam buff. It's not about different playstyle, it's the fact that Kokomi doesn't contribute as much to the team. 11k is PATHETIC damage. My Diona gives my Yanfei almost DOUBLE the amount of damage thanks to the 200EM she gives to Kazuha (increases his Pyro dmg buff) and Yanfei.
@sreeragsathyan7349
@sreeragsathyan7349 2 года назад
@@jadecoolness101 you are either lying or you have artifacts in which all the substats are crit damage and attack percentage for Diona. And even with that I don't think so you will get the damage you're speaking of. Imagine you have 1600 attack which is almost impossible considering you will obviously have high HP but still let's just imagine. And then you have 120 crit damage which is again too high considering you have sacrificial bow and high hp. But even with this the damage of the paw in your e when crowned at c6 will be 4824. But still let's just say it is 5000. You hit 50k in 2 seconds and then there is a 15 second cooldown. So you are basically making 25k damage in 17 seconds whereas kokomi's e with the new artifact will hit 16k off field physical damage and 3k hydro damage per second. And if you extend it to 12 seconds you get 100k off field raw damage from her e alone and if you press q, you can increase the timing of e. So even according to the damage you say Diona gives, it isn't even close to the off field damage kokomi gives. And yes 11k is pathetic but you are missing a major point, that 11k is only from the charged attack at q. When kokomi is at her q you can do three forms of attack at the same time. 11k from the normal attack. 6k from the jellyfish and 27k from the bubble every 3 seconds. So if you add up everything, in her q form, she does 251k in 10 seconds which is again a whole lot more raw damage than any support other than xq. And their support, yes melt gives a tiny bit more damage than vape but the duration of Diona's q is only 12 seconds whereas kokomi's jelly fish can stay in the field almost every time if you time your e and q properly so when you extend the support duration to 20 seconds, kokomi gives you more vap damage than Diona's melt damage and it wouldn't be close. The only thing Diona has over kokomi is the shield and damage debuff but her healing isn't close to kokomi's either. Yes, if you like seeing huge numbers, you can say Diona does more damage. But I prefer consistent damage over that. If we extend their damage to a certain time, kokomi does more than 4 times the damage Diona does, heals way more than Diona, also gives almost/if not more support to other characters. The thing that differentiates Diona from kokomi is that she gives a shield but kokomi gives insanely higher damage than Diona. And I am comparing c6 double crowned Diona to kokomi's at level 8(my kokomi).
@sreeragsathyan7349
@sreeragsathyan7349 2 года назад
@@jadecoolness101 and the thing you said about Diona giving yanfei almost double the damage with kazuha. It also happens with kokomi using the same team instead of Diona with a slightly less damage (it's not that huge of a difference)
@JosepiThe13th
@JosepiThe13th 11 месяцев назад
This video is a constant reminder that people did NOT understand how Kokomi works when she first came out.
@JosepiThe13th
@JosepiThe13th 8 месяцев назад
@@Amacherasu Except Kokomi was meta on her release. She was and still is the best Hydro unit for a freeze team. Freeze teams are a lot worse nowadays, but when she came out, freeze teams were all the rage since Ayaka was still very new.
@sonofdeleniel007
@sonofdeleniel007 9 месяцев назад
Coming back to this video and after getting Kokomi myself . . . MAN, did this video age poorly. I'll be hyped to see how Vars does the WEOP episode on her in respect to how botched this video ended up.
@binchuuu1886
@binchuuu1886 2 года назад
Personally I think she and other healers are dedicated for co-op action, sadly there is not much of it. Though I found running the Tenacity of the Millelith make her usable for single player action since you can maintain the buff for a very long time thanks to her jellyfish and the reset you get from her elemental burst.
@Haru-rs2su
@Haru-rs2su 2 года назад
Do you mean there's not enough people using her in co-op? I'm one of those who just used her in single player, sorry. I was scared people would trash me. Now that I built her better, I'm ready to join other people. And they've been amazing so far! My fav was when there's a Raiden user, and there's always a lot of them. Surreal to see them side by side fighting together with their own aesthetics. The reaction's super great for new domain too. Safe to say I'd play more soon. :)
@Haru-rs2su
@Haru-rs2su 2 года назад
And I used Tenacity too, now I switched to the clam set. I miss the tanky health she has... But it's okay, since she can kill a lot faster now. Guess I just have to level her to 90 real fast :D
@enesjei
@enesjei 2 года назад
Maybe you're just not doing enough coop domain... i swear every time i host coop, i'm always being forced to use either jean or diona, since no one wanna use healer and some random crybabies will always left or mad if we challenged the domain without healers. Then everyone will leave one by one cause they're impatient to wait for other players to join.
@treymoney1019
@treymoney1019 Год назад
Ooo you can do a "What happened" for kokomi. Since now she's used with a lot of dendro teams... man dendro really helped out a lot of units
@treymoney1019
@treymoney1019 Год назад
Wow this aged like super well super quickly
@tawnytawni
@tawnytawni Год назад
@@treymoney1019 Unlike this video lmao
@ultragrasstoucher
@ultragrasstoucher Год назад
kokomi aged like fine wine and this video aged like milk
@niina_draws
@niina_draws 2 года назад
She DID become meta
@MrDrProfessor4
@MrDrProfessor4 2 года назад
As someone that got her the day her banner dropped, I must say it was a struggle to make her useful enough to justify the primogems, no matter what build I tried. It's a good thing they finally buffed her in the form of introducing Ocean Hued Clam into the game.
@enesjei
@enesjei 2 года назад
True, it'll be different story if she's 4*. The new artifact is indeed making he more viable...but it cost resins and rng sucks.... i even haven't got good artifacts for my ayaka, let alone farming other domains for supports.
@ElementEarth100
@ElementEarth100 2 года назад
before it introduced. people helped me phys dmg the wolf with her with healing
@TOANYBJs
@TOANYBJs 2 года назад
i still find it amazing though that even when kokomi is not really needed since other characters can practically do what she does (and sometimes better), a lot of people use her in abyss and she's getting more popular every update.
@igg12
@igg12 2 года назад
abyss is highly manipulative and specific, you sometime needs certain charecter more than others although all are great at their own field. So just because someone is needed in spiral abyss doesn't mean they are good, because mihoyo can change abyss anytime to make it not needed which part I really hate about them
@rajamrifqi5764
@rajamrifqi5764 2 года назад
well we want to represent her obviously
@daxusdaxus
@daxusdaxus 2 года назад
To be honest there's not a single character in the game who is a must-have. It has to be designed that way as, outside of the main 4 stars, most people don't have most characters. The content is deliberately easy. Most of the open world stuff you could use almost any character solo (including Kokomi) and still complete it. Unless you are desperate to speed run Spiral Abyss people should just play with the characters they like...
@igg12
@igg12 2 года назад
@@daxusdaxus yes... and it's not like kokomi is bad, but there are other 5star out there who worth more than her
@user-yn4eg8re9r
@user-yn4eg8re9r 2 года назад
Not exactly. while yes, some of them do the separate things that she does better, certain teams are insane with her and literaly no other unit would work in them. for example, sucrose+xiangling+kokomi+fischl. in this team, kokomi serves as the hydro application (something xinqiu can do but barbara can't) and healing(something that barbara can do but xinqiu can't(his swords heal like 2000 when they disappear together, so it doesn't really matter)), and, because of that, this team has amazing crowd control and pretty good single target damage. you can't make it work with any other character, because all characters have their own use. kokomi for example, is a character you use to fit together big-damage temas that would not consistantly work otherwise. while sure, she can't fit into a lot of teams, but the teams that she does fit into, she gets utilized fully. the reason a lot of people turned her down is definetley "no ability to crit mean no single big damage number which mean no help at all". a lot of epople don't consider the scenarios and just try to see if the character instantly seems that they can do big dps(damage per screenshot). like, sure, barbara can seemingly heal more and xinqiu applies hyrdo better, but there is no point to apply it better if kokomi's application is already enough. like, is she the best character? in general? no. at making teams like i mentioned previously work? probably yes. at dps? of course not. but is she as horrible as most people make her out to be? of course not. if yu wanna se a bit of a showcase of what that team can od, check out he video(not mine of course) : "no benny, no xinqiu". it really shows just how powerful that team can be.
@Jdogrey1
@Jdogrey1 Год назад
Every time I see this channel I just laugh at how badly this video aged...
@Sei.141
@Sei.141 2 года назад
This aged like milk
@akpunk1666
@akpunk1666 7 месяцев назад
AGED LIKE MILK WHEEEEZE
@te-jay6058
@te-jay6058 2 года назад
Correction: Xiangling is NOT a support. She is an off-field dps and the best pyro dps for the Spyral Abyss (yes, better than Hu Tao). Also the best melee dps isn't Hu Tao. She is THE best in single target situations, but thats it. Xiao, Ayaka and Childe all completely outclass Hu Tao in AOE situations and their strongest teams (especially Childe and Ayaka) can even rival Hu Taos best teams in single target situations. Hu Tao only sees a high usage rate on single target floors, while Ayaka, Childe, Xiangling and Xiao are seen everywhere.
@barbz_cult
@barbz_cult 2 года назад
I feel like hu tao is probably a A tier character now she losses in dps to a lot of 4 stars and has quite a few fundamental issues like unless you have her c1 she has stamina issues and since she's usually at low hp along with her stamina issues it makes dodging less likely so she will die a lot if you're not using a shielder and there isn't any good and easily accessible f2p weapon options for her
@pyreworks5210
@pyreworks5210 2 года назад
Optimally and best build, Hu Tao has one of the highest damage and fast clear BUT as a f2p c0 with a decent build she can only do a decent amount of damage enough to three star the hardest floors. I believe she is actually balanced as her stamina issues counters all her potential damage.
@Pangsit969
@Pangsit969 2 года назад
@@barbz_cult wdym losses in dps to a lot of 4 stars 🤨
@barbz_cult
@barbz_cult 2 года назад
@@Pangsit969 xiangling deals more dps than hu tao and can do it off field Bennet can deal like 30% less dps than hu tao while healing like crazy and giving a huge attack buff to the team and thinking that one off the best supports that is also a 4 star can deal almost as much as damage as a 5 star dps is crazy hu tao isn't bad she is just a dps meaning she was fated to eventually become irrelevant
@Pangsit969
@Pangsit969 2 года назад
@@barbz_cult well yes she lost dps to xiangling *but* you say "a lot of 4 stars" which means more than just xiangling
@hnaoto2
@hnaoto2 2 года назад
I just love my Kokomi. She's saved my ass so much, and with C1 and the new set she is consistently high DPS. It's consistent, and heals at the same time. She's a great character, and I think that people just don't like characters that can't do some big ass number they can show off in groups.
@trashketchum9782
@trashketchum9782 Год назад
Kokomi is like 50% in terms of Abyss usage now. she’s up there with Xingqiu & Xiangling. she clearly found her place in the meta lol i’m glad i pulled for her despite everyone saying she was “trash”
@kwayke9
@kwayke9 Год назад
Yeah this aged even worse than the Keqing video. She's lowkey why EVERYONE plays now
@Roinur
@Roinur Год назад
I'm sure you know this but using Abyss usage is not a very good way to quantify strength since Abyss usage is the % of the people who own her and since not a lot of people own her it skews the usage rate in her favor. In comparison to xingqiu and xiangling who is owned by almost all players yet almost all players use them meaning a larger % of people tend to use them even if they are faced with more alternatives. Lastly most people weren't calling her Trash most credible people called her unnecessary due to her role being a hydro bot and you could use Mona, Xingqiu or even barbara to get similar results and particularly in the case of mona where her omen buff provides the team more dmg in comparison to kokomi. She trades dmg for comfort.
@icantbelieveyoudonethis4059
@icantbelieveyoudonethis4059 2 года назад
Can we give this guy props for how pronounces the names? It’s perfect
@nicks.857
@nicks.857 2 года назад
I love this series its my favorite content on each of your channels. Keep it up.
@Jamelon
@Jamelon Год назад
it turns out, that now EVERYONE who plays freeze plays kokomi. Hell
@adityasangeeth4255
@adityasangeeth4255 2 года назад
5 months later - Kokomi is one of the most used characters in spiral abyss..
@Xaphan01
@Xaphan01 Год назад
And now with dendro soon to be added to the mix, expect her value to increase. Dendro × Hydro seems like a good reaction
@geebeepman
@geebeepman 2 года назад
0:59 I agree that genshin isn't a difficult game, at least when comparing genshin's spiral abyss to other gachas' endgame content, but I think you're underestimating some people's ability to unironically play or build characters/teams in the worst way possible.
@patty1418
@patty1418 2 года назад
PLEASE WHEN I WAS A NEW PLAYER MY FRIEND DIDN'T USE RAZOR AND TOLD ME TO BUILD HIM AS AN ELECTRO DPS SO I DID UNTIL AR 45 WHEN I REALIZED THEY DONT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT-
@Goblinhandler
@Goblinhandler 2 года назад
Yeah, games like FGO have bosses that can one shot your frontline and have multiple phases, in comparison genshin becomes easy with a good enough team or skill, I mean I got to abyss 12 with a team of Diona, kaeya, Anemo traveler and Mona while Indian God Man one shot my whale team in FGO
@rajamrifqi5764
@rajamrifqi5764 2 года назад
@@patty1418 tbf if you have c6 razor he deals equal physical and electro damage while ult so building him electro isnt a bad idea since you already have phys% from your ascension
@patty1418
@patty1418 2 года назад
@@rajamrifqi5764 oh i did not know that, well he’s c5 for me so if i ever get his last constellation i’ll try it out but i already have a phys build so i might as well stick with it.
@hanoianboy9562
@hanoianboy9562 2 года назад
@@patty1418 that's the electro equivalent of physical chongyun
@xlachannel6756
@xlachannel6756 2 года назад
I’m a Keqing main and I truly adore her so much but it’s sad that some people took it personally about Keqing in the last video which sucks because you made it clear that you’re not bashing the character but sadly some people misinterpreted things. I enjoyed your last video and I can’t wait to enjoy this one because I also love and adore Kokomi.💙
@roennyh1362
@roennyh1362 2 года назад
No one took it personally, they just pointed out many flaws in a lot of arguments lmao. The way people who make these shitty videos gaslight other people’s criticism lol.
@roennyh1362
@roennyh1362 2 года назад
@@hornetsilksong no one is throwing out “buzzwords.” If you lie or make a point to try and convince someone who is not in the wrong or acting out emotionally, is gaslighting. Having a thesaurus or an extended vocabulary is a weird thing to criticize when you use cliche worn out expressions like “touch grass” to deflect any constructive criticism which is all that was given.
@insop6432
@insop6432 2 года назад
@@roennyh1362 What makes you think that he’s gaslighting? Also by that definition, atleast one person in almost every debate gaslights.
@Ninjedi46
@Ninjedi46 2 года назад
I know he doesn't have any intention on bashing characters, but every time I see "NO ONE" in the title for a character I use, I can't help feeling a tiny bit sad about it.
@xlachannel6756
@xlachannel6756 2 года назад
@@roennyh1362 I’m late on this but yes they did took it personally if they thought he was trying to bash Keqing. Yes they have the rights to disagree but they way of how they did it was bad and they even attacked him for it.
@suryadeepbhattacharyya1514
@suryadeepbhattacharyya1514 2 года назад
I personally feel like -50% crit dmg for 25% healing bonus would've worked out better, and as you'd mentioned the garment staying on other chars as well
@genshinislife5432
@genshinislife5432 2 года назад
Agree
@genshinislife5432
@genshinislife5432 2 года назад
If she can crit. Some adjustments on her burst. She goof
@nationalgeografic7687
@nationalgeografic7687 2 года назад
Better -70-90% to balance her
@mothersday1869
@mothersday1869 Год назад
aged like milk 😭
@rebillion9442
@rebillion9442 2 года назад
I've thought for a while now that flawless strategy shouldve been something similar to Raiden's energy recharge passive, like: "Kokomi trades 1% crit chance to gain 1% extra base health, and trades every 1% crit damage for .8% healing bonus" because she cant crit, kokomi shouldve been able to go to 80k health and 110% healing bonus or something
@Soundwave1900
@Soundwave1900 2 года назад
I think the point was to make her easy to build, which collecting crit stats doesn't go well with :) My proposal would be the opposite: "for every 1% hp healed she gains x% of crit rate but can't go higher than 100 crit damage. The cr bonus resets with the end of her ult". So basically you gain stacks by healing for a bit (8s should be enough) then burst and go ham, rince and repeat.
@TheHeatSeekera
@TheHeatSeekera 2 года назад
She’s one of my mains, her and Raiden together are strong offence and healing
@b-1battledroid674
@b-1battledroid674 Год назад
Kokomi mains now: They called me a madman...
@hparkes93
@hparkes93 10 месяцев назад
Watching this before a much anticipated rerun is so wild, definitely needs a revisit
@ValdaCalytrix
@ValdaCalytrix 9 месяцев назад
He has!
@nikita_ayzatulin
@nikita_ayzatulin 2 года назад
Just wanted to say that you may be my favourite genshin youtuber right now. Your delivery is awesome, no toxicity to anyone or any characters, the videos are clear and consice You absolutely deserve all the views that come and I wish only the best for you and your genshin channel
@DawnofIsai
@DawnofIsai 2 года назад
I really wish I was able to get her because she def does have some of the best animations and aesthetic/design. I think they should make it so instead of getting her full ult once switched, make it a fraction them. That way it isn't completely overpowered and allows for more use. I like the choice to not let her crit it's an interesting design choice, but they didn't compensate her enough for it.
@fluxtheweirdo1237
@fluxtheweirdo1237 Год назад
I love your content, but months ago, as a beginner I saw this video trying to look for info on some characters and actually thought she wasn't a great character, then I realized how useful and versatile she is so uhm I will pull for her as soon as I can
@VarsII
@VarsII Год назад
Even though opinions of her have improved, she's still not as all purpose of a unit as the likes of someone like (now) Yelan
@serulu3490
@serulu3490 Год назад
@@VarsII that doesn't take a away the fact that this video was a complete flop and aged terribly. You didn't focus on her AoE hydro-application which is extremely valuable for freeze teams and other teams too, meaning this video was actually objectively false and biased Saying while "her usage rate is high but not many people have her so i make this video" is a laughable take considering kazuha is also in a similar spot but you didn't make a video on why NOBODY uses him also "crit is calculated last so it is the best multiplier"💀 How to say you don't know elementary level math without actually saying i don't know elementary level math "Oh yes 2×3 is more then 3×2 because 3 is the last multiplier and it is more important" 🤓🤓🤓
@sadmansikder8354
@sadmansikder8354 Год назад
@@VarsII Yelan is a straight up damage dealer + applicator + buffer. Kokomi is a tank, a healer, an applicator, a sub dps with Clam, a driver for taser, and a buffer with ToTM & TToDS.
@Xaphan01
@Xaphan01 Год назад
@@serulu3490 he got clowned fr. Usually his opinions are right but with Kokomi he really missed the spot but hey didn't 90% of the community too ?
@serulu3490
@serulu3490 Год назад
@@Xaphan01 i also thought kokomi wasn't good in her first release because i didn't focus on her hydro application. But after looking at her abyss usage rate i immediately knew she was actually really good. Some say abyss usage rate isn't a proper way to judge powerlevel but it is actually. Just that you have to compare the limited 5 stats with each other, and not the 4 stars, because everyone get the 4 stars, with people that don't like them, however people only gets the 5 stars they like, and that's why they will play them if they are strong. Therefore the fact that he looked at her abyss usage rate and knew she is used a lot but still made this video is an absolute clown move
@ylh2019
@ylh2019 8 месяцев назад
The beginning of the Kokomi trilogy.
@arrowsecho5779
@arrowsecho5779 2 года назад
Kokomi has by far the best aesthetics and some of the best animations in the game imo. That being said her gameplay did turn me off from pulling for her, although now that I have a bunch more characters I'll likely get her on her rerun
@justanotherkaeyasimp7182
@justanotherkaeyasimp7182 2 года назад
Same i wanted kokomi because she was sooo pretty but i didnt really like her playstyle and lmao i got called a metaslave because i didnt pull her because of that reason💀
@maraisfan4life517
@maraisfan4life517 2 года назад
@@justanotherkaeyasimp7182 what part of playstyle makes people believe that you’re a meta slave?? 👑
@arigatameiwaku
@arigatameiwaku 2 года назад
@@maraisfan4life517 he is a metaslave though. Skipped a unit he liked only because it is not a brain dead account booster like ganyu /zhongli. I pulled kokomi even though i hated her gameplay just because i wanted to make her my main dps :) thats what i would call a true non meta player
@justanotherkaeyasimp7182
@justanotherkaeyasimp7182 2 года назад
@@maraisfan4life517 i dont really like catalyst and i already had two healers jean and diona so i didnt really need her😔
@justanotherkaeyasimp7182
@justanotherkaeyasimp7182 2 года назад
@@arigatameiwaku i never said i wanted a brain dead account booster bruh, i don't even have zhongli or ganyu i literally main kaeya 💀💀 Im not gonna pull for someone just on looks alone i have to like their playstyle as well
@randomcatname7792
@randomcatname7792 2 года назад
So you know how people get their hands on the data mined info of the game? In the initial data mines, ALL of her damage scales off of HP and had decently high modifiers. I imagine the crit removal was initially designed to be a counter to that, but was never removed when they changed her (Sorry for double posts)
@dan...dandan...
@dan...dandan... Год назад
I think the biggest reason why Kokomi got such a negative reaction when she was released was because Mihoyo locked crit build out of her and pissed off the players. Players are pissed because they feel like Mihiyo is forcing them to use support build while they actually want to build her as main DPS. Without the crit lock, Kokomi would be a better character.
@optimistic.pessimist
@optimistic.pessimist Год назад
The only answer: because some random ass Genshin content creator said she was bad and everyone ran with it.
@renyoudie
@renyoudie 2 года назад
Damn you got this out fast my guy
@Jdogrey1
@Jdogrey1 2 года назад
The funny thing is that Kokomi is now effectively a must pull meta character.
@CielTempest
@CielTempest 2 года назад
Not a must pull,just luxury. If you have the rare problem of having shenhe and needing a healer for your freeze comp then she is the best pull. Kazuha however is a must pull since he is a second bennett
@Jdogrey1
@Jdogrey1 2 года назад
@@CielTempest it is not just about healing. She is the best character for that party. Characters do not reach top 5 Abyss usage without being must pull. Kokomi is really good at a lot of different things at the same time. It makes her a really valuable addition to a party. She is a must pull, but there are 3 5 stars who are more important.
@llawliet6975
@llawliet6975 2 года назад
@@Jdogrey1 if you have mona there is no need to pull for kokomi so not a must pull
@Jdogrey1
@Jdogrey1 2 года назад
@@llawliet6975 bruh. That is utterly false. Mona is pretty bad at hydro application, which is her main use. Kokomi is amazing for hydro application. It is foolish to assume that one of the top 5 most used characters in Abyss is beat by one that is not even top 10.
@llawliet6975
@llawliet6975 2 года назад
@@Jdogrey1 its is the percentage of people who own kokomi and not a lot of people own kokomi
@franzwilliam574
@franzwilliam574 Год назад
This did not age well☠️☠️
@aquamarrina1202
@aquamarrina1202 2 года назад
To be honest, the Genshin community is like 50/50. I had to leave the unofficial discord because everytime I had a simple question like "what artifact/weapon is better for this character in this specific team?" And most of the people there were always telling stuff like "this team is thrash, change it" or "this character dont even fit in this team". But on the other side, people are friendly in game when I join their world. I main Kokomi and fell in love when I saw her cinematic in July 2021 and did everything I could to get her. But not even before her release people were bul****ing her. It's sad how people thing Genshin is a game where you have to build the perfect team while in reality, you play the team you want and 99% of the time it work.
@purp1e200
@purp1e200 Год назад
I mean, they were just giving you suggestions. Why complain about it? If a team has no/anti synergy, there is no point in recommending a weapon for a character in that specific team.
@alexblack4048
@alexblack4048 2 года назад
Honestly Kokomi was the best banner choice i ever made, she has saved me so many times, i was honestly getting tired of getting constantly frozen or electrocharged with Barbaras healing since i didnt have a shielder at the time.
@tacoo8083
@tacoo8083 2 года назад
This is a perfect video, I own kokomi and I agree 100% with every point in this video. Yet I feel like it would be hard for mihoyo to balance her. It's better for them to keep the units bad than rather overbuffed since they can't nerf anymore afterwards. I also had an idea to make her ult stay on other units, tho it would defeat the purpouse of hydro dmg bonus% scaling and the jellyfish doesn't do that much damage, so I feel like they would have to kinda rework her scaling. Or they could buff her healing bonus passive and her ability scaling to make it very good for compensation of the crit rate nerf. She is still very fun and I have her talents maxed out.. not worth ngl, i still like her tho.
@zanagizengamer5003
@zanagizengamer5003 2 года назад
Yep besides if they made Kokomi half healer half dps like anyone else that would make her easily forgotten since she will feels more of a re-skin than an actual character like most GI character are.
@iishiir
@iishiir 9 месяцев назад
This video was scripted, recorded and editied before Version 3.0 was released. So he wasnt able tk factor in the new element: Dendro
@simply.classic5933
@simply.classic5933 Год назад
coming back in 3.4 to say Koko has become meta now xD godbless mama koko
@ChillingLen
@ChillingLen 10 месяцев назад
I'm kinda proud for defending this girl since day one, lol I'm rewatching out of curiosity for why she wasn't very well liked other than "healing isn't really needed + can't crit", I can't remember much about it
@luffixs
@luffixs 2 года назад
I'm actually a kokomi main, and I find her amazing. I'm glad I pulled for her since about 4 days after getting her, I got a 5-star catalyst while fighting azdaha. With the new artifact set, I still have yet to get the 4-set boost, but from what I've heard, she does a lot more damage with it, so that's what I'm working towards. It makes me so sad that a ton of the community dislikes her, but it makes me happy that most kokomi-havers actually use her cause she's not as bad as people say she is.
@riguor9876
@riguor9876 2 года назад
WHILE fighting Azhdaha? You pulled mid-battle?
@zoomjng
@zoomjng 2 года назад
Nahhh you need to classify RN
@renkay8695
@renkay8695 10 месяцев назад
Literally the second most used character in the game now for the abyss only trailing behind Nahida. Love how badly these videos aged the more I see Kokomi completely overtaking every character LOL.
@zanzatbc
@zanzatbc 2 года назад
This video convinced me to get kokomi. I pulled her yesterday and I am so happy.
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