What Happens to FLDS Polygamist Children? 

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Thank God!

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Surname checks out. Whenever I see someone with the surname Jessop now, I’m like 👀 cause names like Jeffs are fairly common, but Jessop and Kingston are quite distinctive. Hope you’re doing better now!

Hi William! I’m so sorry to hear that. If you’re interested in sharing more, you can email me cultstoconsciousness@gmail.com ❤️

😢 so very tragic. Glad you are out and safe.

I'm so sorry you had to grow up like that. 💚🩵💙

i have been to quite a few meetings with the JW's in my early years... some larger gatherings as well.... i always thought the people that ran the show were 'demons'... i remember this girl that got pregnant at like 21 out of wedlock... i forget what they called it but she could not speak or be spoken to by anyone in the congregation... i remember how sad she looked.... she was such a nice person too... which made things even worse.... so i would just look at her and smile... hoping maybe that helped some. they were incredibly demanding... and if you didnt do Door-to-Door Service you would be looked down upon and shunned... i soon got out of that Cult... because in my eyes thats what it was... a Cult.

I am sorry for having your father abuse you and your bird.

Awful

I’m so sorry that happened to you. I hate your dad, straight up, for you, your family, and poor little Bobbi. I hope you are doing well.

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Yeah, after leaving the flds, I can say for sure, It seems to be the case that the leaders were just making it so confusing that nobody knew the real intentions.

Harrowing interviews they were indeed!

@@HannahMitchell-ArtEspecially watching the interview with the son, the mom's face was so sad

@@nickywal gosh yes, hearing from the son’s perspective was one of the worst things I’ve ever heard

Right, healthy attachment is really important for us to be stable and happy.

@@justkiddin84 - Yep, & the attachments we form in childhood with our caregivers set the stage for our ability to form healthy attachments with others going forward. Attachment couldn’t be more critical.

Actually in a lot of states it does. Animal cruelty is against the law, as in dog fighting, neglect, beating them, whatever, but you can take your healthy pet to the vet and ask for it to be euthanized for no reason (or for a dumb reason like you’re moving to an apartment that doesn’t allow pets). Most vets will refuse, but it’s not illegal.

@@lkayh im sure they had a much harsher method tho which is a different story than euthanized via vet

The big issue is they have their own police and set up that they could claim anything and get away with it.

Don’t come out to the rural parts of west Texas..I was horrified ppl pew their dogs & dump them (young healthy looking pets) .. I was very glad to move from there!

I dont think the flds were concerned with legality. Marrying under age is also illegal as is child abuse

Hi Anna! Great comment! I love hearing your perspective and completely agree. Thanks for sharing 😁❤️

I agree!! We are about to do an update video with Growing Up in Polygamy. They have insider news about current “revelations” from Warren that are extremely concerning

As he created isolationism to his community of believers, The same isolationism can come back to him. You reap what you sow. I came out of a cult and being isolated from the rest of the outside world. You don't realize that this is happening till you get to the other side and look back. You get a greater insight of what really is not what you think it is. Deceit is a severe form of manipulation. Taking a piece of truth and turning it into a lie for their own selfish purposes. Narcissism at its finest. Yuuuk! What grandiose ideas they have (the leaders) to obtain their own glory

Why can Warren still have contact w/ the members of the FLDS, past & current? You would think that part of his conviction & sentence would be no contact w/ anyone from the FLDS because Jeff’s being able to do so is allowing him to continue abusive practices. I’m just so shocked the judge & prosecutor did not include something like that.

@@liseklerekoper2441 yes i agree its so upsetting!

Judge and prosecutor might have some special "thoughts" on these particular matters 😮

Exactly!

And especially if you are constantly comparing the girls to their mothers and the boys to their fathers, well then the kids look at what the fathers and mothers are doing! And of course the only thing mom does is raise babies and cook whereas dad does manual labor!

Right! If a kid likes a particular color, or a toy, then that is what they should have-not to the point of spoiling (tho a little bit is ok), but to tell a kid they are wrong to like a truck or a stuffed animal because it isn’t feminine or macho enough is damaging.

I agree in the larger society, but it seems like gender roles are so strictly defined in these communities, it seems like children might be more inclined to be drawn to certain toys based on gender roles.

This is exactly what I wanted to say, girls in those communities are drawn to baby dolls because marriage and motherhood is the only perspective women are allowed to look forward to, and all the women they see around them are caring for babies. They are imitating the only thing they see.

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Thank you for your kind words!❤️

He was the other choice to take over the FLDS before Warren officially took over!

Yikes. He is a former LDS bishop. Snd it’s apocalyptic-always scary.

I think the key is that the kids ALSO have toys, books, pets, etc. Teaching kids how to live and take care of themselves and a home is part of a parent’s job, as well. So many people are thrown out into the world with no idea how to cook, clean, pay bills, etc. and it’s steals years from their lives as they try to learn on their own-or they live in filth and end up bankrupt. Or overly dependent on another person to survive.

Thanks for watching!

Workers and sexual objects.

Which was the whole idea. Daddy Warren is the only attachment they are allowed to have. Horrifying.

Thank you so much!

Thank you so much 🤗

Thanks for watching!

I was raised flds, but I know a lot of Mormons, and I can say without being in a Mormon family, I can't say for sure, but Jody's family seems to be an exception.

I agree with William that generally speaking, LDS parents are taught to love and care for their children, not whip them into submission. Kids are certainly taught to be meek and obedient, but I’ve never heard them being ok with any sort of physical abuse to make that happen. Also, the blanket training is a very conservative fundamentalist Christian thing that came from the Pearls’ “How to Train Up a Child”. It seems extremely likely that she got a hold of that book.

Yes I understand what you are both saying however, I'm also talking about the emotional abuse which actually for me has been the hardest to move through. Being raised in a cult such as Mormon churches (don't mean to offend, it takes many years for the unraveling and breaking away from group think and becoming an independent critical thinker. What I knew at 24 and what I know now at 56 is completely different. Like peeling away the layers of an onion.. The only way I did it was to completely stop practicing religion with organizations and to go no contact with my family and of course therapy who dealt with the effects of cults. It was scary to step away from everything I knew but it was completely necessary to heal. I find these types of organizations and not just Mormon structures (there's a whole list of them), which can actually raise children into submissive adults with unhealthy boundaries and keep them in dangerous relationships by reinforcing it with religious doctrine causing them to be more vulnerable, obedient, and submissive in the future especially as a female. I already knew the history of the "blanket training"and where it stems from as for the Franke Family and Ruby's siblings seems they were all trained the same way (I took a deep dive into their history). BUT, even on your channel here you have guests who have had A LOT of similar experiences within Mormon structures like the Franke's hence the question about the dangers of perpetuating the emotional neglect/ abuse unintentionally especially when someone has stepped away. My understanding became deeper over time as each decade passed. Also with respect to your guests.I have no doubt that they love their children and the fight to get them back however, , these girls who were abused, were just little girls having babies themselves as their emotional growth was stunted. I found Rick Alan Ross, to the best author and expert in the field of deprogramming victims of cults and has rescued many people out of them. Keep up the channel for the victims. Good work indeed.

@@chime-girlExcellent comment, thank you for sharing your thoughts. ❤

Yes! So funny this rise of love for capitalism among the ultra religious Christians, especially in America

@@sianmilne4879 Christianity started as an End Times cult of ascetic Judaism where you abandoned all personal wealth and ties to this world. That proved to be not very popular, though, so it morphed into "believe in Jesus and make up your own rules".

@@sianmilne4879 The whole ‘prosperity gospel’ crap is completely opposite of everything Jesus taught.😡

This depends on your definition of communism.

@@justkiddin84 I define it the way Acts of the Apostles chapter 4 does, which is also the same way Marx defined it. And Marx never excoriated capitalists as brutally as James chapter 5.

Seattle be safe

They don’t care. Just want a new young wife

Personally, I spent exactly one day in a Montessori program as a young child. It ended with them calling my Mom and asking if they could tie me to a chair. 😳

Really? Yikes! I’ll check it out. Tie you to a chair? As far as I’ve researched, we just like the idea of simple play at home with small tables and chairs and things in arms reach for them to explore in a baby proof environment. I don’t think we plan to send her to a Montessori preschool.

​@@GenuineLeighOof.. my son went to a Montessori daycare/preschool class, and it was lovely, no weird or concerning practices

We are filming an update on this tomorrow actually! Planning to release next week

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This sounds like the Kingston group, more than the FLDS

​@@tiffanygibson8111the interview states in the comments that it was Warren Jeff's sect and the Kingston group is in northern Utah, I'm talking about southern Utah, we're not far from Colorado City so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

I remember that guy too!!! Wasn’t he the one who had a girlfriend who left after him, but eventually they broke up. I could be wrong, but this is what I’m remembering.

@@liseklerekoper2441 I just remember him being left at an apartment , might have been in St. George and he said he already had a job lined up. Was a mechanic.

His name was Loren. They expected a woman he drove up in a big dbl cab fwd with a flag flying on the back.

@@bitteroldman2714 - Yes, it was Loren. Thank you!!! Such a nice guy, and all of those young men from the FLDS who escaped are such hard workers.

Great question!

In this case, abuse and beliefs are one in the same. The beliefs are inherently abusive