As someone who's taught maths to a wide range of ages and abilities, I can confirm that is indeed much more of a mental workout to teach those who struggle with learning than those who are experts at learning, even if you're teaching them much simpler concepts. Remembering how you learned certain things and putting yourself in the perspective of the learner are just so much more difficult, particularly if you learned those things very easily yourself. When you see someone struggle with something you found easy, the challenge is figuring out what you knew or did to make it easy.
A possible insight I'd like to share based on my research when I was a teacher in training that relates to learning fundamentals - the fundamentals of ANY system, League or otherwise. On my PGCE course, one of the big graded assignments we had to do was a research essay on any topic related to teaching and learning. Given that I'm half British and half Japanese, I was very interested in the pedagogical differences between Eastern and Western approaches, both in terms of methodology and cultural or social expectation, so that's what I wrote my essay on. One of the BIG differences that I encountered was that Eastern education - particularly in South Korea, remember that - places a far greater emphasis on fundamentals than Western education tends to. (I'm aware that I'm making vast generalisations here, but bear with me.) The approach is very much focused on bottom-up mastery, the idea being that the stronger the foundations of your 'learning tower' are, the taller you can build it and the longer it will last. This goes hand-in-hand with the Confucianist idea of education, which is very much that education is not meant to be a fun process where you're constantly learning new things, but a patient, grinding process that only reveals its benefit in time. There's the old saying, 'the roots of learning are bitter but its fruits are sweet' (often incorrectly attributed to Aristotle), and that is very much how Confucianist teaching works: it's formatted such that you have to fully master one level before you're allowed up to the next, and there's a very strict structured path to follow, you can't just jump around to whatever interests you. BTW, this is so important because all Far East Asian countries, to a greater or lesser extent, are influenced by Chinese culture; part of what is known as the 'Sinosphere'. All of this is not to say that the Confucianist way is necessarily the best, of course - everyone has their own particular learning needs and there is no 'one size fits all' way to teach (as anyone who's watched Kung Fu Panda will know) - however I thought this information might give some interesting perspective on why people from certain countries tend to do better at League than others. Approach, methodology and attitude are much harder to analyse and modify than atomistic skills, but given that such higher-level concepts *inform* the direction and structure of your learning I think it is very important to give at least some thought to them.
How would one approach learning something like statistics, or economics with a focus on fundamentals as opposed to the approach of looking into whatever interests them at the time?
@@joshuacox5817 anything can be as deep or as shallow as you decide, it's part of the magic of having a thinking mind. Maybe you should use it more. Be curious and explore ideas. You might surprise yourself.
@@dylanhuntly3517 The fundamentals are probably trapped in massive, long textbooks with tonnes of practise and exercises to do on your own, and your brain probably wants to watch the clickbait video of the person who wrote the textbook and their latest idea (that you won't really understand until you've read the textbook!) Realistically though there are probably good middle grounds, but making sure you get the independent practise and then review attempts against an expert doing the same thing and you should see results for anything. As someone more recently said: "memory is the residue of thought".
I've been putting your videos on while playing league, and no joke I've went from bronze 2 to silver 1 61lp since the start of this split. Thanks for being awesome.
5:50 A good way that's helped me deal with that is setting small, incremental goals for myself. "Oh trying to hit 50cs by x minute is boring. Let's try to hit 60 now instead!" It's just new enough to keep me engaged, without dropping the ball on practicing good habits.
First I've ever heard of this 2 week challenge as a tool kit to combat self-sabotage. I'm gonna try it on my own games and I think it would work well as a way to instill discipline which I think I lack when going on these loss streaks/rage queues.
The best bit about this video is when you talked about how you need to have an understanding of what do you want to achieve and why, and only then does all this talk on wave states, trading, backing etc make any sense. So many high elo players will tell lower ranks to fix their wave management / resets bla bla bla, but won't ever tell you why you should have X wave management plan on Y champion.
I think a great example for point 3 is: yes you can get a ward out to protect against 2:15 (or similar) ganks when your lane is nice and quiet. But can you do it against a laner who is actively bullying you? can you do it while maintaining pressure on the wave? and will you even remember to do it?
That is great point to know weaknesses of you champ/champ pool. But how can I get to know it if I'm not a challanger player. Is there any process to identify every strenght or weakness of the champions? Or maybe is there a website that can list this things?
Just play hundreds of games. There is a drastic difference between your expectations when you play 50 vs 500 games. When starting out you're just like: damn I kinda fumbled this lane, I'll go review what I did wrong. Compare that to playing 500 games and just knowing that sometimes you played perfect and still couldn't accomplish anything. At that point you truly understand the champion's weakness. It doesn't matter how well I play my Swain support. The second Xerath, Brand or Vel'koz is picked, I am getting outranged and will land zero e's on either the support or the ADC. I just pick second wind, gathering storm and sit in lane until I get to interact with the enemy top, mid or jungle.
I tried "coaching" some friends in Bronze, and it's almost impossible for me. Some fundamentals go in pairs, like farming and positioning, when they focus on farm they get poked to death and when they focus on avoiding poke they miss half the cs. In both cases they get bored and just go back to playing their way and the fiesta begins.
If someone doesn't wanna not fight, then that's fine for me, I can focus on how to fight. For lower elos, I actually see instead that they have mouse accuracy problems. Often I recommend disabling mouse accel, playing osu to 3-4*, and talk about how to land and dodge skillshots.
A question about the skill floor idea. If you raise your skill ceiling, doesn't your skill floor natural climb? How could a player be a master level player at their best and an emerald 2 player at their worst?
Typically that kind of situation happens when a player's degree of confidence swings too much based on their recent matches. If they are on a massive winstreak, their skill ceiling improvements are far more noticeable because they will consistently play near their best. Once they lose some games and start to doubt themselves again, they are much more likely to lose focus and/or tilt causing them to play far below their expected level of play because they are emotionally attached to a fault. In their case, most of improving their skill floor is working on their emotional control along with general stage 4 issues.
Can also happen from greatly executing one thing, but not executing another thing well. Kinda like how boss fights in single player games can have great power, but one or two glaring weaknesses. Them climbing depends on enemies not finding their weakness, and that can be 50 50 at times.
The consistency issue is so true. I went from p4 to d4 in a couple of days just by working on my early game and keeping it consistent ( not dying to jg, winning all trades...). Now I'm D2 and I'm a regular 50% wr player, I'm not worse then other people but I'm not better either at least on the regular. So my skill floor is D2 but my skill ceiling is definetly higher since there are games where something just clicks and I'm smashing people. It's so mentally taxing to play at that higher level tho
The MMR system is sadly completely broken... My main finished D2 with 64% win rate leason. This season I couldn't get out of emerald within 15 games cuz of +20 -26lp and insane unwinnable games in which the enemy had last season challengers and mine had last season emeralds. So I just started playing on a smurf and now its gone from P2 do D4 in under 50 games and still getting +26 -19 So then I decided to try another smurf to see if it was a coincidence and nope. 2nd smurf in D4 on my off role woth 72% win rate from G3 and +30 -18 lp gains Cant win a game on my main and meanwhile my 2 smurf are 2 divisons above it with insane win rates and super healthy games, while every game on my main tilts for hours on end...
i literally went at the end of the season from e1 to p1 and best part i dont think I played that bad sure I lost a couple of games becuase of tilt but most part its just nothing I can do to win except playing like a grandmaster+ player
Seems like a unawreness of oppurtunity issue. I am gm play peak chall and i have played through you elo on many smurfs. Even a d1 player would steadily climb that elo you dont need to be gm+
This keeps happening and im not sure what to do and would appreciate any help anyone can offer. Scenario: Its mid-game and a few towers have been taken my top laner is pushing top my adc is solo farming bot and my support and jungler decide to aram down my lane. What do i do? Stay mid losing farm and xp or leave and do WHAT? This seems to be a reocurring theme and would really appreciate some help thanks
the problem with the beginning of this video is that he's assuming that LP gains are relative to LP losses. when in fact its not. If you're losing -30 LP, you are more then likely not Gaining +30LP. so its not a 3-0 Block that puts you at 90 LP its more like +17-20. which means you're likely at +55-65 LP. which means you need to win 3 Games to break even for every 2 losses. nobody wants to acknowledge this though.
I’m honestly just frustrated with climbing this season. Im usually a “get to gold and quit” player. Just give me my skin trophy for my suffering and call it a day. For this last split I decided to go Uber try hard. I had a bit of a chip on my shoulders from some discord mates and had something to prove. I fully committed to my main champion twisted fate, becoming fully OTP. I’ll play into every bad matchup and comp and save dodges for legit trollers (screw you Lion L9 btw). I rocketed up to emerald 1 with a 60% winrate on twisted fate. Let me tell you my experience. The moment I hit emerald my LP gains went from 35 to 27. Not even 30. So I’m not entirely sure how realistic someone being in d4 getting +30 even is, but I’ll take your word for it. The moment I hit emerald 2 I started seeing diamonds in my lobbies for the first time, still 60% winrate. My Lp gains lowered again. I went on a losing streak - happens to the best of us - and my LP gains in emerald 3 currently are +22 -28. I’m still happy with the LP changes don’t get me wrong, but the problem is riot forgot to SPEED UP MMR GAIND AND LOSSES WITH IT. I am being punished for climbing too fast because I started hitting ranks I never was before and my mmr has still yet to catch up. And I’m tilted. My winrate tanked to 55% in almost 200 games. Which is still really good and yet my LP gains don’t reflect it. I’m bouncing up and down emerald 2 occasionally seeing emerald 1. I’m not going to pretend like even with these negative LP gains for no reason my tilt queueing didn’t exacerbate the issue. It did. But I’m not going to pretend like the ranked system doesent have a serious problem right now. I’m currently taking a break before going for the finish on my Diamond climb. My performance started taking a hit each game and it shows. And to show that I’m being honest look up fate twisted #na1 (on na servers obviously). That’s my OP.GG and my U.GG. I’m emerald 4 98 Lp and yes I’m partly to blame, but I shouldn’t have to over compensate for this rank system it should just WORK. They HAVE to fix mmr or this is simply not sustainable. Like I said it should absolutely still be something I can overcome and I should have taken a break before it got as bad as it did it might have saved me some LP and TF stats. It still doesent make it any less bs that that’s even necessary considering how well this season has gone for me. I’m frustrated with myself and the system and I’m not sure which I’m more frustrated with. Maybe after a break I’ll breeze into Diamond who knows.
I can't upvote your comment enough. I've climbed to plat 3 decently easy with +31 +35, then when I started losing 1 or 2 games back to back the negative lp starting getting higher and higher to the point that I got a -31 lp one game. Which didn't even make sense when my teams average tier was g2 and the opponents average tier was plat 4, because if you look into how riot says the lp works if you lose against better opponents your lp loss should be smaller and if you win it should be higher. I fell to plat 4, my lp got completely messed up , I get +20/22 on wins and -26 on losses. Also the matchmaking system sometimes feels like a joke. I get silver players in my team, who are on win streaks, against plat players, most of the time they will get gapped, and then I have to pay the price. It's not fair to assume that one or two plat players in a team can or should be able to carry the silver 1/ gold 4 players against a full plat team. If I reach a certain rank, I should play with and against people of equal skill. I understand having a gold 1 in a plat 4 or plat3 game, but it's not ok to have that same gold1 in the same match as a plat 1, since it's literally an entire rank between them. At this point, they should get rid off either the mmr or the lp system. I honestly believe that having only mmr would be 10 times better, and you can keep the rank as well by simply having between 1 mmr and 500 mmr iron, 501 - 1000 bronze, etc ( or whatever numbers would be correct).
i peaked to plat 3 then i fell out of plat 3-4 times and now i fell all the way down to g4 facing smurfs/opponents of my skill lvl and getting back to where i was feels impossible...@@sugarfree9921
I climbed from Emerald 2 to master tier by focusing on Tempo it suddenly just clicked what tempo was and i didnt have it at all and now i do. Im still smashing master players in lane so now i believe i can get Challenger and before i didnt even think i could ever get master even though i smashed lane. Curtis would you ever do a video on how champions make you play and feel i play xin and ori mid and when i play xin and fall behind or people troll i get mad but on Ori its just happy all game win or lose lol. If you play an unstable champion it might benefit your mental to have a stable one who is useful all game as your 2nd pick.
lol why would anyone get flak for coaching low elo? he got flak for being a proven liar who’s historically been extremely aggressive towards other creators on twitter
Scrolling through all sorts of rank photos...random rock climbing guy and random sourdough bowl, little extra flavour for the video. "Look at these results my students got!" -> Sourdough XD BTW, Masters players already have fundamentals..They're easier to coach because you can explain concepts to them and they will pick things up because they already have problem solving skills in use. Coaching lower ELO players is difficult because they don't have those problem solving skills, they don't have any fundamentals, some of them can't even click their mouse properly. Just look at some of LS' old videos like Legend of White Dragon. It's really difficult to coach people who simply don't think about what they're doing and who don't have critical thinking and problem solving skills at all. When a pro coach tells a pro player they're off tempo and they need to play for xyz, the player goes 'Oh. OH!", but when you tell a bronze player they need to space/tether better and explain what that means...most of them will be like "I can't do that." Some might ask "How do I improve that?", but most of them will just be like "It doesn't work I always get smashed, I can't do it." There are some things that you pick up naturally because you have critical thinking and problem solving skills, or you simply don't because you don't have those skills in place. It's hard to coach people when you get into the VOD and see they can't even click their mouse accurate, throw abilities backwards, whatever. Where do you even begin....
I will say riots system does a good job of putting you against players of your skill level IN THEORY. But the reality of especially emerald elo is that its completely filled to the brim with smurfs pretty much every other or every third game I play has a player or a duo on a fresh lvl 30 account with 85+% winrate.