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If Thrawn was around and in command during the Battle of Endor in Return of the Jedi, how could the outcome change?
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@Gamer1990100
@Gamer1990100 Год назад
Thrawn didn't have the drawback of letting emotions dictate his decisions he simply used logic
@GeoEmperor-
@GeoEmperor- Год назад
It is fascinating to see these ‘What If’ timelines, great job editing all this together!
@kab37
@kab37 Год назад
I’m reading through the thrawn trilogy right now and Captain Pellaeon keeps asking this exact question 😂
@billbrown9271
@billbrown9271 Год назад
I love any content with Thrawn ! Always been one of my favourite characters since Heir to the Empire!! This is awesome!!
@johnathanmarlin3994
@johnathanmarlin3994 Год назад
If Thrawn was in truly charge, the Death Star wouldn’t have even been made, and the rebels would have been wiped out.
@JakeTylenol
@JakeTylenol Год назад
I mean he lost to Ezra so he’s not all that infallible
@madmellow5846
@madmellow5846 Год назад
Agreed. Tie Defenders would have eliminated all rebels and any chance of a rebellion
@wubronumbr1355
@wubronumbr1355 Год назад
@@JakeTylenol he lost to Ezra due to plot armor. They aren't going to let a villain win in a show about the resistance in this era of Star Wars. They're too scared to allow villains to win. Shit even look at Vader vs Obi Wan in his show. Anyone who knows anything about Vader knows he should wipe the floor with him, but he ends up getting taken down for the plot.
@madmellow5846
@madmellow5846 Год назад
​@@JakeTylenol All that infallible? I mean it took Ezra summoning space whales to catch Thrawn off guard. If that in itself is what it takes to throw Thrawn off guard then...
@JakeTylenol
@JakeTylenol Год назад
@@wubronumbr1355 he did win, multiple times, we just going to forget how he completely crippled the rebellion before they got a chance to finally unite in season 3? He just lost to Ezra in the end. But my point stands, he can lose if you have something he can’t predict. It also wasn’t plot armor the plot point was set up from even before Thrawn was introduced.
@kelbydrisdale-payne8126
@kelbydrisdale-payne8126 Год назад
If thrawn had command of a fleet of ships of that size it would be over for the galaxy
@Linktuts
@Linktuts Год назад
I don't believe that once you dip in the Darkside, that it will forever dominate your destiny. I mean, look at aayla secura for exemple, she used the dark side early in her life. But she mostly lived as a Jedi
@cr23wx18
@cr23wx18 Год назад
Nah, anakin was an exception, once you dip into the dark side, there’s no turning back and even if u do u will never truly find redemption
@tadhggoreyoneill13666
@tadhggoreyoneill13666 Год назад
​@@cr23wx18it's kinda like what Winston said to John Wick in the first movie. "You so much as dip your pinkie finger into that pond careful you don't find something that pulls you into it's depths"
@priestesslucy3299
@priestesslucy3299 Год назад
​@@cr23wx18 It's fine. Luke dips in the Dark Side in Legends as well. It all works out in the end.
@yagami3933
@yagami3933 Год назад
​@@cr23wx18 gonna have to hard disagree with this
@yagami3933
@yagami3933 Год назад
Yep, and Mace used the darkside in his vaapad variant.
@AgentLlamaProp
@AgentLlamaProp Год назад
We need more Thrawn videos!
@GezerGozer
@GezerGozer Год назад
Maybe legends thrawn vids would be cool
@madmellow5846
@madmellow5846 Год назад
@@GezerGozer I like legends Thrawn but I hope his character is deployed more like it's shown in the newest trilogy. I realize this comment doesn't have anything directly to do with what you said. Back in topic: we need more legends Thrawn videos!
@Jimbo28263
@Jimbo28263 Год назад
A Star Wars what if show in the clone wars style of animation would go crazy
@Bblue_light
@Bblue_light Год назад
It's amazing how just one guy has been added to the battle. changed the whole story, and teaches us that one decision or one action can change a lot like our character or our destiny. Thank you theory for this important lesson and the great story.
@oliverlewis3126
@oliverlewis3126 Год назад
Loved the video, I didn’t find the microphone quality that bad honestly, thanks for this!!
@hotsauce32390
@hotsauce32390 Год назад
I have a friend who lives for Grand Admiral Thrawn. He would love this. I'm going to share it. You truly inspire with your content! You're gifted in story-telling and mad props to your production quality on everything you do. Keep pumping out the content. It is appreciated. We are privileged to be fans with you.
@witcher348
@witcher348 Год назад
Theory just casually set up the Filoni movie.
@jake_gon_jinn
@jake_gon_jinn Год назад
In the "Heir to the Empire" book by Timothy Zahn there's an specific line about this theory: 📝 "Pellaeon had often wondered how the Battle of Endor would have ended if Thrawn, not Vader, had been commanding the Executor." One thing that people might miss is that Thrawn is genius strategist, unlike Darth Vader. He studies his enemies from every single angel, he sympathize with theme, sees their motivations and passions. So yes, it would've been completely different if Thrawn was in command in Battle Of Endor.
@festo512
@festo512 Год назад
Wasn't last command a remake of return of the jedi. Thrawn didn't do so well there did he?
@priestesslucy3299
@priestesslucy3299 Год назад
​@@festo512 I just recently listened to the Last Command audiobook (read it about 20 years ago) I don't see parallels to Return of the Jedi personally. It's a unique story.
@festo512
@festo512 Год назад
@@priestesslucy3299 Are you serious? The rebel fleet is led into trap. The main bad guy is killed by his bodyguard. The heroes lead a ground mission while there is a space battle going on. Either you are lying or not too bright. Which one is it?
@priestesslucy3299
@priestesslucy3299 Год назад
@@festo512 I am blonde, maybe that helps? For one thing, the 'killed by his bodyguard' parallel never registered to me, probably because at the time of the Emperor's death I don't think of 'Vader, the Emperor's minion,' I think of 'Anakin, Luke's dad.'
@festo512
@festo512 Год назад
@@priestesslucy3299 You don't remember the scene where Luke attacks the emperor with his lightsaber and vader blocks it? How many years ago did you last see return of the jedi?
@WIB081
@WIB081 Год назад
This is one of the most interesting ideas I’ve come across in a LONG time! Freaking awesome dude!
@macwelch8599
@macwelch8599 Год назад
Grand Admiral Thrawn would’ve decommissioned the Death Star, and instead rely solely on his powerful fleet
@Xenomorphine
@Xenomorphine Год назад
The DS was part of the fleet. It literally acted as a giant one-shot-one-kill battleship.
@macwelch8599
@macwelch8599 Год назад
@@Xenomorphine Thrawn would never use it, though
@Xenomorphine
@Xenomorphine Год назад
@@macwelch8599 Something that powerful and practically immune? Think he absolutely would, but would probably wait for it to be completed and improve the defences.
@TV-ge3uj
@TV-ge3uj Год назад
@@macwelch8599 Yes, he would. Of course he wouldn't have *built* it, but not using it would have been an even greater waste than building it in the first place.
@priestesslucy3299
@priestesslucy3299 Год назад
​@@macwelch8599 with the Emperor still on the Throne, Thrawn has to follow orders. Thrawn would never blow up a planet if he could help it, but as an Anti-capital-ship canon it does have a lot of tactical value.
@benjaminobienu5297
@benjaminobienu5297 Год назад
This is awesome, my friend; I really like Tharwn being calculating and stepping ahead of anyone else. That makes him a dangerous and fantastic villain, and I love to see a sequel where Grand Adrimal Thrawn was created as the new Emperor of the Galactic Empire, for this is an incredible masterpiece, my friend, and may the force be with you!
@masteryoghurt2110
@masteryoghurt2110 Год назад
If I was the emperor and had to choose Thrawn or Vader to stay, I would choose Thrawn any day of the week, together with Chimera and its crue - Kharyn Faro and Eli Vanto and others
@CosmicDominator
@CosmicDominator Год назад
Didn’t thrawn want to bombard the Ewoks because he didn’t underestimate them but Palpatine told him not to because he had his own plan and was overconfident
@chaossalad3243
@chaossalad3243 Год назад
Excuse me? Thrawn was never at the Battle of Endor, in Legends or canon. Unless you mean before the battle Thrawn wanted the Ewoks bombed, in which case I’m still confident he never said that
@CosmicDominator
@CosmicDominator Год назад
@@chaossalad3243 Its in the novel “choices of one” he wanted to burn the forest around the shield generator for 100km but Palpatine completely dismissed him
@chaossalad3243
@chaossalad3243 Год назад
@@CosmicDominator haven’t read that one, but if that’s so then apologies
@Darthlordzelgius
@Darthlordzelgius Год назад
I honestly have no idea how these videos don't get more views, they're so riveting! Well done!
@joestover7610
@joestover7610 Год назад
Have you done a theory on what if the jedi order hadn't found Anikan as a child?
@ordinarryalien
@ordinarryalien Год назад
The thumbnail Thrawn looks like Henry Cavill.
@JohanMsWorld
@JohanMsWorld Год назад
Poor Cal.. wonder what will happen if a darkside Cal meet darkside Luke in a battle for power following this scenario? J.
@Beto_820
@Beto_820 Год назад
Would’ve been so sick to see Luke lean a bit more into his dark side. The battle against the Emperor would’ve been EPIC.
@Wavy601
@Wavy601 Год назад
I love your vids and what you do also is your podcast still on Spotify
@chimoha8037
@chimoha8037 Год назад
I wish we could get more thrawn from theory
@theaterlightman89
@theaterlightman89 Год назад
What if vader used lukes hand as a replacement for his own?
@Christommyfmx
@Christommyfmx Год назад
Not gonna lie, the mic took me back to a time before the Vader fan film. Glad to be along for the wild ride
@jimokane9891
@jimokane9891 Год назад
I think Thrawn would have survived and taken a large portion of the Imperial Fleet into the Unknown regions, then things would proceed more similarly to the events preceding Heir to the Empire. Thrawn would establish the Empire of the Hand and would return maybe 5 - 10 years later to retake the Empire and destroy the fledgling New Republic. Whether these new events around Return of the Jedi would change the outcome of the Heir to the Empire Trilogy is unclear.
@boat1280
@boat1280 Год назад
I enjoy these old school what if videos! Just some good nerd fun
@piercinglikelightproductio9382
There needs to be a part 2.
@KeithForsberg
@KeithForsberg Год назад
I’m glad we’re getting an adaption of heir to the empire and Thrawn. I haven’t read much Star Wars books but intend to read this one. Excited for Ahsoka and the Filoni film the most
@OldCityBob
@OldCityBob Год назад
Great stuff!! I've always held the belief that the Empire would have won the battle if Thrawn were there. I recall Pellaeon wondering it in the book.
@Ravencos
@Ravencos Год назад
"Luke turned the Death Star on the Imperial Fleet" 😂😂 How!? 😂😂😂
@w0706
@w0706 Год назад
Very interesting and intriguing "What If" episode, thanks SWT!
@c.pharris8013
@c.pharris8013 Год назад
You're thrawn voice is so good lol. Is it inspired by the Jonathan davis-narrated thrawn trilogy?
@PisternatorTV
@PisternatorTV Год назад
With Thrawn in charge I dont think the Rebel strike team would've ever made it to the shield generator. Besides the obvious security risk of having the bunker in the middle of the forest and easy to sneak up on, a shuttle with "older codes" would definitely have either been shot down or pulled into a Star Destroyer for inspection.
@KYTEOYT
@KYTEOYT Год назад
Love and appreciate everything you do Theory.
@Anonymoose66
@Anonymoose66 Год назад
I love this so much. Thank you!
@bradgrand79
@bradgrand79 Год назад
Looking at you view numbers it’s clear the news and drama videos get more views but there is still some who love the fan fiction and at least for me it helps keep the love of Star Wars alive
@tomdeluca5946
@tomdeluca5946 7 месяцев назад
If thrawn was in rotj then the ewoks would be eradicated as that was his recomendation to palpatine
@Kingjulien1809
@Kingjulien1809 Год назад
A long version of this would be cool with more detail
@Darth_Traitorous
@Darth_Traitorous Год назад
You don't need thrawn empire already had one there special forces on the ground on endor, inferno squad they killed every single rebel in their way to get to their ship. I double-checked this is canon.
@darthraulitothekeeper
@darthraulitothekeeper Год назад
I hope you make a part 2 also I would like thrawn to survive and also help the new rules of the Galaxy.
@PsyKotyK
@PsyKotyK Год назад
Luke looks terrifing in that thumb nail like hes crossed with pennywise from IT
@bacaawesomerorie2788
@bacaawesomerorie2788 Год назад
What if man of steel was in Star war original trilogy
@WilliamAGould
@WilliamAGould Год назад
Actually, if Thrawn was present. Him might have let things play out. Thrawn did not like the Death Star. With Palpatine amd Vader on the Death Star, Thawn could have arranged a power play with the shield going down to destroy the Death Star. After the Death Star is destroyed, Thrawn then rallies the Imperial fleet and crushes the rebels, making for a legendary comeback and cementing him as the new leader of the Empire.
@gabriel.skywalker44
@gabriel.skywalker44 Год назад
Thrawn is a legend
@gianfri7640
@gianfri7640 Год назад
Nothing would have changed. The imperial navy had the order to stall the fight until ordered otherwise, because having Luke witness the slowly destruction of the rebel fleet was part of Palpatine's strategy to break him and turn him to the Dark Side. And if I recall correctly the Episode 6 novelization (canon), when the Emperor died every single imperial soldier near Endor suffered from some sort of "Force-shockwave" caused by Palpatine's death, as his maliciousness was pretty much affecting everyone of them (I like to think of it as an early form of what would have became known in the EU as "Battle Meditation"), so even then Thrawn would have made little difference. The Empire lost the Battle of Endor because Palpatine understimated Luke's willpower and the power of the bond between a father and his child, not because tactical incompetence.
@echo5327
@echo5327 Год назад
I think you’re right, so I think a more accurate name for this is “what if thrawn had complete tactical control of the battle of Endor”
@superultrainstinctkingcody4852
I really enjoyed this video very much
@Area1313J
@Area1313J Год назад
Love this! I’ve missed fan fictiona
@CloneScavengerVulpin8389
@CloneScavengerVulpin8389 Год назад
Palpatine: "goood."
@botman234langer6
@botman234langer6 Год назад
If that happened i think the empire would've have won
@Dmac7318
@Dmac7318 Год назад
The music 👌🏼
@user-lf6xz3me8x
@user-lf6xz3me8x Год назад
Thrawn was the empires greatest weapon
@InfiniteNaos
@InfiniteNaos Год назад
The Rebellion would’ve had a much tougher time defeating the Empire. Thought not impossible since Hera would’ve been involved along with other individuals who’s had experience against Thrawn. Still, the outcome would’ve been more in the Empire’s favor in all fronts.
@theodorekim4193
@theodorekim4193 Год назад
I'm sorry, but I find it incredibly unrealistic for Luke to defeat The Emperor at the time of Return of the Jedi, even if he fully embraced the Dark Side. By then, Luke only had about 4 years of training and was barely at the level of an average Jedi master. If it were let's say, 10-15 years after RotJ, then sure, he would destroy Palpatine, but before that, he would be no match.
@alanguenin
@alanguenin Год назад
He didn’t defeat the emperor. Vader did.
@theodorekim4193
@theodorekim4193 Год назад
@@alanguenin No, I was referring to this particular fan-fiction story that Star Wars Theory made. In this story, Luke overpowers The Emperor right after defeating Vader. And as I said, Luke, at this point, has absolutely no chance of defeating Palpatine, even if he embraces the dark side.
@priestesslucy3299
@priestesslucy3299 Год назад
@@theodorekim4193 It's not that difficult to believe, once you accept the novelizations that clearly state Placid Luke = Vader. And Lucas' statements of Vader = 80% of the Emperor. The dark side gives the user a fat boost in short term power in exchange for the price it takes. I can absolutely see Luke shrouded in darkness defeating the emperor. Heck, the emperor already foresaw Luke being a direct threat to him. Is the Force going to show him visions of himself beyond his demise?
@theintunity
@theintunity Год назад
Hey Theory, could you do a reaction video on the interview with Hayden Christensen and Diegu Luna? It was a pretty interesting one.
@angelosusa4258
@angelosusa4258 Год назад
It’s kinda like mace windu using some aspects of dark side against an opponent
@sovereigndayyouthkafir3943
@sovereigndayyouthkafir3943 Год назад
This is bleak. If Luke turns to the Dark Side to vanquish Palpatine, I don't see any way for him to later become a Jedi Grandmaster.
@hiddengameseekerlp1786
@hiddengameseekerlp1786 Год назад
Best video of all time
@minidiablo2518
@minidiablo2518 Год назад
love your content keep the work up
@mrjuse5470
@mrjuse5470 Год назад
Read the Thrawn books. The recent series 2017-2019. Not going to spoil but he is a lot more complex than 99% of you realize and probably not who you think he is. 😮
@michaelbeach1087
@michaelbeach1087 Год назад
An interesting idea, that RotJ Luke would stand any chance at all against Palpatine having just fallen to temptation. Not something that ever occurred to me. That being said, there is no way Luke could come back from the dark so easily at the end. No way, no how. Not breaking new ground here, but only the intervention/sacrifice of Leia would be enough to break evil’s hold on Luke at that point.
@FFA441
@FFA441 Год назад
Do a part 2 where thrawn survived
@maxheadroom4659
@maxheadroom4659 Год назад
So what is the official canon as to why Thrawn was not present in the original trilogy? He was in command on the far side of the galaxy?
@rexmagi4606
@rexmagi4606 Год назад
He and Ezra got lost in a worm hole or something before a New Hope so neither were present for the OT. Ahsoka was looking for them during this time but hasnt found them yet.
@stuart00knight
@stuart00knight Год назад
I much preferred the idea that he had attempted to expose the corruption of the imperial military contractors and demonstrate they were making inferior hardware and getting exiled for it.
@rexmagi4606
@rexmagi4606 Год назад
Thrawn called in the gravity wells from the OG Empire at War game.
@skelleytor
@skelleytor Год назад
I have a feeling Thrawn’s presence in Ahsoka , will be minimal l… like maybe see him in the end
@alexisjankowski3281
@alexisjankowski3281 Год назад
I love this channel
@studavies1967
@studavies1967 Год назад
Had always thought if the imperials had thrawn in overall command with general veers on the planet, by by rebellion
@anthonystogner7580
@anthonystogner7580 Год назад
Luke pulling a Cal Kestis..
@aerodraconis
@aerodraconis Год назад
Oh wow, I can actually hear you for a change. Aside from the popping, keep the higher level of audio. We shouldn’t have to pump the volume high bro
@JreyKent
@JreyKent Год назад
You should continue this timeline and make up what happened to Ezra in this scenario
@av300
@av300 Год назад
The Thrawn in the thumbnail looks like John Cena but you can see him
@SeanCortrightMusic
@SeanCortrightMusic Год назад
What AI are you using?
@kylervillagomez6716
@kylervillagomez6716 Год назад
Can you do top 10 facts about depa billaba
@kushpatel8968
@kushpatel8968 Год назад
what if thrawn joined the rbellioin?
@AyooRikoo
@AyooRikoo Год назад
Pt. 2 👀
@everettjohnson9374
@everettjohnson9374 Год назад
Just wait till luke learns palps would return
@markveres7369
@markveres7369 Год назад
Can you do uh...What if Mara Jade was in Return of the Jedi?She's helping Luke Skywalker
@incizer4419
@incizer4419 Год назад
AND HIS NAME IS THRAWN CENA!!!
@pieronlego
@pieronlego Год назад
Send this video to Palleon
@LukeplaysTV
@LukeplaysTV Год назад
yeah i didnt get the notification for this video, weird, youtube having problems
@saucy3639
@saucy3639 Год назад
Smart things would have happened
@rubensperez1911
@rubensperez1911 Год назад
Impressive…. Most impressive
@xtremeemperor
@xtremeemperor Год назад
As cool as the ai stuff is, it isn’t the same as your pure original thoughts and ideas. I prefer the old non ai theories just in the face that it was 100% Star Wars Theory putting it together
@eliminator1472
@eliminator1472 Год назад
Highly doubt Luke could have killed Palpatine at this point in his life.
@sebastjankoracin7774
@sebastjankoracin7774 10 месяцев назад
Actually there is one part i find a bit strange how would luke a known enemy of th3 empire be able to command the death star especially after killing the emperor as far as i know only royal guards knew Palpatine was sith and could be manipulated by the darl side but the rest of the military seeing the man who killed their emperor along with royal guards would try to kill him i think there is no way luke would be able to vcommand them unless he put them all under mind control
@Gor85
@Gor85 Год назад
Great fanfic! :D Well done!😁 I'm sure this would happen. Thrawn would destroy the Rebellion. I'm glad Luke stays in the light. He uses darkness but mostly light. He can do it. I think Thrawn lives. He escaped somewhere. Luke and the Jedi would face him again. Awesome Sidious voice😁 The Force will be with you too. Always :)
@festo512
@festo512 Год назад
Didn't Thrawn get hiss ass beat by the rebellion in last command?
@Gor85
@Gor85 Год назад
@@festo512 it's hard to imagine Thrawn get beat easily. And haven't seen that. Watched Rebels. Not all
@festo512
@festo512 Год назад
@@Gor85 it was a novel then comic book.
@Gor85
@Gor85 Год назад
@@festo512 ok thanks. sorry :)
@asonunique3637
@asonunique3637 Год назад
I don’t think Luke was going for Vader. He was trying to strike down the emperor, but Vader blocked it. The whole movie he was saying how he couldn’t kill his father, until he threatened him with turning Leia to the Darkside.
@Phimbe
@Phimbe Год назад
One critique or question, how in this scenario does Darth Vader fulfill the prophecy of destroying the Sith if he survives and Luke killed Darth Sidious & Luke is now quasi sith?
@Natsirt666
@Natsirt666 Год назад
What do you think Luke's Sith name would be? Darth ....?
@isisbarfuss558
@isisbarfuss558 Год назад
I'm glad you told us it was made by AI.
@allnamesaretakenful
@allnamesaretakenful Год назад
How would Luke stop Palpatine's Force Lightning?
@yawobi5083
@yawobi5083 Год назад
If Ben Skywalker was born or in the womb I think Luke would have had a shred of hope.
@yawobi5083
@yawobi5083 Год назад
If Luke would have eventually played hanky-panky with the emperor's hand (pun intended) I wonder If Ben would have been a new hope or a new dread?
@WimTiquet
@WimTiquet Год назад
Hey @Theory, what is your sound you used in your video? it sounds so dark, so touching actually wanted to ask a lot sooner but oh well❤
@taylorvany1084
@taylorvany1084 19 дней назад
More please
@lordsvenska7567
@lordsvenska7567 Год назад
John cena (thrawn parody) for thumbnail lol
@baneandeddu8115
@baneandeddu8115 Год назад
LOVE IT
@onan-sonofjudahbrotherofer8466
Then Ewoks would henceforth be known as "Thrawn's Bane"
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