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I am from Indonesia, country with the largest Muslim population. But we are not a "sharia" country 😊 We even have a region where Muslim still do not consume meat of a cow because historically the Hindu minorities of that region didn't eat cow for their religious purpose, and the Muslim scholars of that time advised local people to refrain from eating cow as a form of respect to the Hindu minorities, even though it is not actually forbidden for Muslims to eat cow. There are many stories like this. But the world don't hear it, because the media delivers to public what is sensational, and Kindness is not sensational news.
@@user-wf4nl2yy8x You can butter anyway you like but the fact that you ahve Apostate laws and other cults are are origin from Islam So you can keep denying but the fact remains. Terrorism, Bombings, ,Kinfe Attacks, Grooming Gans, Vilolent Protests, Beheadings and count less Terrorists Organizations in this century all from the same Cult.
I remember when he wrote the book. I went right out and bought it. And for the life of me, I cannot find what is so offensive. It is a conversation between two people in a plane crash floating down to their deaths on Earth. I loved the book, and it got me to buy several of Salman Rushdie's books. He also inspired me to become a writer too.
@@PW-le6crthe fact that this book eludes to our prophet Muhammad SAW committing shirk is something that's offensive. I wouldn't kill a personal, but I would have a word with him
This evil act of violence towards Mr Rushdie will only inspire a whole new generation to read his book. To expect to never be offended by each others words is rediculous. We would all have to live our lives blindfolded and gagged with earmuffs on... Hope he recovers well ✌
@@thetimeofthewolf257 That's for YOU to figure out for yourself. Don't look to others for answers. Didn't say if I'd read or not read his controversial book...or my opionions on it. Simply saying freedom of speech is imperative for us all and the threat of violence to shut us up is not tolerable in any society..In my not so humble opinion.
Ordering a copy right now. Sounds like a wonderful work of fiction. Shame on the fanatics. Makes the fanaticism the point of attention. Ordering assassinations? Sounds like organized criminals at work. Not religious or pious at all.
Well when you see what's the book is about, I can totally understand Muslims being offended. You write a book, fiction or not, but purely to offend Muslims, what else do you expect?
@@newnepal2072if your response to an “offensive” text is violence, instead of explaining to the author man-to-man WHY you think it’s offensive and untrue, you’ve already lost the war. Stop condoning violence.
@@Kingrich_777 surely violence should never be the response. My main point was Salman wrote with the intention to offend, and not everyone is capable of responding to offense with peace.
People get punished for illegal speech in most countries - especially if it's incendiary hate speech without valid reason. The use of magical trick delusion to make up a false story about a Prophet whose laws are honoured and valid (contextually) after him 'til the day of judgement. Bad move, and bad move on the part of Lizzy to knight him for it and force people to call him "Sir". She's already on the hook for blasphemy - read Revelation 17 .....
@@darklight898 false illusions that are engineered in the mind based on falsehood - with the theme being blasphemy. It is a type of hypnotism, Babylonian sorcery (Qur'an ch2: v102-105). Hadith حَدَّثَنِي مَالِكٌ، عَنْ زَيْدِ بْنِ أَسْلَمَ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ عُمَرَ، أَنَّهُ قَالَ قَدِمَ رَجُلاَنِ مِنَ الْمَشْرِقِ فَخَطَبَا فَعَجِبَ النَّاسُ لِبَيَانِهِمَا فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم إِنَّ مِنَ الْبَيَانِ لَسِحْرًا " . أَوْ قَالَ " إِنَّ بَعْضَ الْبَيَانِ لَسِحْرٌ " ." Malik related to me from Zayd ibn Aslam that Abdullah ibn Umar said, "Two men from the east stood up and spoke, and people were amazed at their eloquence. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said, 'Some eloquence is sorcery,' or he said, 'Part of eloquence is sorcery.' " USC-MSA web (English) : Book 56, Hadith 7 Arabic : Book 56, Hadith 1820 Muwatta Malik Get Hadith Collection (All in one) App:goo.gl/8j06i9 #GreentechApps #Hadith It is when one is able to cast false thoughts into people's minds without really saying anything concrete - affecting them thereby to the extent that they end up being manipulated like Dr Thomas J Watson's "baby Albert" via "association".
@jadennik2221 @jadennik2221 Muslims are a lot more mature in propagation of their way - this is in great contrast to the petty and criminal methods used by the secular masonic devil worshippers - as can be seen in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere.
Any religion leader who encourages violence like killing people in the name of their god, it's the real problem. Thank you for posting this, I was looking for an explanation about this book and why it's so controversial. I feel very bad about the writer's condition right now, it is completely unacceptable being attacked to just put our there your thoughts on something.
@mascode1, he is not the real problem my friend, he is real kafir my friend. And Muhammad was a kafir himself. You won't have an idea how much hate the word "kafir" brings with it in Islamic cancerous theology unless you yourself read it. For example, if you voice is louder than the noise of - when we're turning a book's page in the presence of Muhammad, that person qualifies to be killed, as he/she committed a blasphemy of Muhammad - let alone questioning in Islam. Yes Islam that draconic, this goes to endless extremism. I have only qouted you one Hadees. Just think.
Muslim speaking here, thank you for your video, that Fatwa was B.S and outrageous.. even though that book goes against my beliefs it doesn't mean I go around and stab people 😑😑 . A book can just be written to counter this book if they are not happy with it, NOT KILLING🥴
Would have been easier if your religion hadn't made verses easy to interpret/misinterpret as justification for retaliatory violence: "And when the forbidden months have passed, kill the idolaters wherever you find them and take them prisoners, and beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent and observe Prayer and pay the Zakat, then leave their way free. Surely, Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful."
@@AnonYmous-bc5xk would have been easier if you understand the historical factor behind those verses. All holy books have war and violent related verses, you need to know the story behind them. Let me shed some light on this, this verse did not come at the begening of Islam, it came later, if you actually look at how the message started, Mohammed propegated his message amongst the pagans in Mecca, he had few people (few 10s) following him, they were getting tortured, executed and exiled and as his followers grew, Mohammes fled with them outside Mecca and went to Madina, the pagan Meccans still didnt like it, yes beleive it or not those verses of fighting and fiercely pushing back is a reaction to earlier attacks and multiple executions. Yup, those wars that followed Mohammed's life on Spain and india were lead by monarchs came after him in 10s of years..
@@AnonYmous-bc5xk is that because Islam is the only one to have verses like this? How about this one from the Old Testament If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.” (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB) Every single religion contains things which are outdated and clearly absurd. But here you are telling someone that their religion isn’t worthy. Please put down the red top right wing newspaper and open your mind FFS!
@@TheMxrrab the difference is that the Bible is clear that these laws are for the Jewish people at that specific time for a specific reason and that they are outdated. That’s why there isn’t millions of Christian’s carrying out violence in the name of Jesus. On the other hand Christians are the most persecuted group in the world and mostly by the hands of Muslims in other countries much coming from India and Africa and Iran.
i am a christian , i have read many book and film like davinci code , but i never think to kill the writer or producer.because i think that fiction and reality is different.
@@skepticsinisterthanks for command, respect whatever that you believe. the most important is dont do something that made a life gone. sorry my english not very good at all.
My friend Jesus who is our creator told us to love one another pray for your enemies and love your enemies Jesus is All about love. Muhammad is all about and is pagan gods Allah Is all about hate.
The problem with Islam isn't just the history that was marked by blood from day one. The biggest problem with Islam is that no one have authority to decide what is the right interpretation of verses. Many Muslims will defend stoning of an adulter based on the the prophet's teaching. Few will disagree. And that goes almost on anything in that relegion. You can have 50 Islamic sheikh giving you 500 different interpretation of the verses . The Quran is also very contradictory Look for example to what Quran teaches about Christians . Parts it describes them as followers of the truth Ahl Al Ketab Then later it describes them as Kufar that need to be fought. Muslims like to take advantage of this Quranic circuses in their relegion to defend Islam. Until ISIS came and adopted The most basic interpretation of Islam
Well explained! Hats off! You don't challenge someone else's ideas with violence, that's a simple statement that everyone should learn and keep in their mind.
What is the most offensive thing of all is the man who attacked him is only being charged with second degree attempted murder, meaning it was a crime of passion and not premeditated. Everybody knows that is a lie.
Because they are protected and the indigenous people of the West are now second class citizens. The aim is to dilute down the indigenous culture/Christians by the cabal so they weaken down Christians and Caucasian culture. They want us pre dominantly a mixed race. Encouraging another religion in particular to take over. All part of a planned agenda and we know it's real because certain areas of the country have more ethnics than white Caucasians now. I also notice that supermarkets virtually give food away with very low reduction on food where there are mostly ethnics and areas mainly of white Caucasians get a measley 10 or 20% reduction. I was shocked when my friends who are Asian was telling me about the big reductions they get in their area. It's so wrong! Good luck to them but the agenda is becoming clearer by the day.
Ahhh this makes me so angry at this moment right now and not before! I wish I had a knife! *Reaches into back pocket* ohhhh look a knife! Seriously though I see what you are saying and that is crazy.
@@depurasangre86 it makes me wonder if he and his attacker were either black or white what the charges might be. They say in New York the laws are really weird but there is still no excuse in charging a man who knew about the event a year beforehand, tell people he was going to do it, was in touch with the Iranian government, and traveled all that way with a knife with only second degree attempted murder. I hope they do the right thing and move the charges up to first degree attempted murder as well as a hate crime. I can't help but feel like Rushdie's nationality, dual citizenship, and status within the Islam community play a big part in how his attacker is being charged.
Right. If the Coran is not the literal word of God, an important and fundamental part of the Islamic faith is put into doubt and ridiculed, leading in the long run into a weakening of the Islamic faith, just as the movies by Buñuel and later by Monty Python contributed to the decline of Catholicism.
Pimp, You're delusional. You confuse religious group to Ideology/philosophy. While Islam is an evil ideology, muslims can be good people, if they don't follow the criminal behaviors of Muhammad, while a bad so called christian is someone who pretend to be Christian but do not follow the deed /philosophy of Jesus. a)Muhammad raped a woman the same night he beheaded her husband, father and brothers. b) Muhammad teared apart a very old woman in 2 by placing her legs between 2 camels and pulled her in opposite direction for writing a poem that criticized him c) Muhammad approved the killing of a pregnant woman for the same reason. Muhammad made it clear: Anyone that insult him must be killed. I can go on and on Packout. Wake-up.
@@nialloloughlin8378 not all, the Dalai Lama doesn’t seem to be too concerned with exerting his power. All religions are bullshit, but they’re not all the same.
it has EVERYTHG to do wth one particular religion. Rushdie has insulted d hindus n nobody has stabbed him. he has also insulted d christians n their beliefs n there ver no threats frm them. this shld say it all.
Every religion and ideology and state will execute or persecute for blasphemy. And still does. I guess you haven't heard what is happening to Julian Assange today. You don't live in a Disney Castle. In the real world speech and all other forms of behavior has real consequences.
The sharia punishment for anyone blaspheming the cult founder is execution. All sects of the cult agree on that. That is why it is a capital offence in many cult majority countries. That is why 92% of so called hon or killings are by members of the same cult. That is why the most supreme leader of shia islam could issue a fatwa demanding this be done to a writer of fiction in another country. This is why Asia Bibi was sentenced to death. That is why the cult founder assassinated every one of his critics. How many more examples does one need to understand the direct connection between a cult based on hate and violence, and the members who do that?
Great commentary.I am a retired London taxi driver and it reminds of the time I took a lady home.She guided me to an area and I noticed an armed policeman sitting on a stool.I was curious and made a comment to which she replied ‘oh it’s a deposed Soviet leader’ and she elaborated and left.I was curious and I knew she was being evasive so I drove up to the officer questioned him and he answered that he was protecting Salman Rushdie but he was away.I have never revealed the location because I know that religious fanatics are consumed with vengeful hatred.
Thank you very much for making this video, I've known that the book has caused some very strong emotions my whole life and knew that Rushdie had a bounty on his head, but I never understood what the controversy was about. I appreciate the straightforward explanation!
Thanks for your explanation. Years ago I gave up part-way through the book as I found it so verbose and boring (doesn’t seem like it would be, right?), and I was taken aback Rushdie would be attacked over such an old boring book.
@@BeachSamuraiStudios I’m rereading it too. I watched a couple summaries, and I’m taking notes this time, which is greatly helping me fix the characters in my mind despite the multiple names and constant switching among narration, dialog, internal monologue and metaphor.
S-I-G-N OF J-O-N-A-H PAUL HARVEY 🎙️ IF I WERE THE DEVIL JFK WARNED US IN HIS INAUGURAL SPEECH JUJ MAJUJ KLAN TAKE OVER Alhamdullilah ✨ Maybe this will guide people to actually research Islam themselves! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5CtKdG_kMrI.html An Najm What the OCCULTISTS don't want people to know is that the QURAN acts as KRYPTONITE against broadcasted 📻🗣️🎙️🎼 spell💤 😴 to both the Warlock Occultists and their Jinn 🧞 Shayateen 👽 POWER TO THE PEOPLE instead of POWER TO THE NWO BAND OF COLONIALIST PIRATE'S 🏴☠️🧙🏻♀️🧙🏼♂️
it amazes me when people say it has nothing to do with the religion Islam without asking why Muslims do go on attack and violence when their religion is criticized. Minimum the author was Muslim who is considered as an apostate who kind of insulted Islam. The penality in Islam for him is death and that is in the instruction given to Muslims by their prophet. There are verses in the Quran and Hadith that actually promote violence against nonbelievers. Yes most Muslims are good but people are generally good where ever you go. They are good despite what their religion actually says because they don't know that their religion promotes violence or they ignore it or such acts of violence are applicable only when Muslims are powerful and can dominate.
There is quite a lot more to it than that. Rushdie's main point was to question the legitimacy of the Koran itself. His fictional book The Satanic Verses is named and based on the satanic verses of the Koran. These verses are in early additions of the Koran but were later removed. They are problematic because they show that Mahound (Mohammed) adapted the text as he changed his mind due to circumstance. The text is a pretty clear indication that it was written by a man with an agenda and not channeled direct from God. The reason some Muslims are touchy about Rushdie's novel is because it calls into question the popular belief of the Quran being pure and absolute in its authenticity. Rushdie is a brave man for addressing this major issue.
S-I-G-N OF J-O-N-A-H No it does not! PAUL HARVEY 🎙️ IF I WERE THE DEVIL JFK WARNED US IN HIS INAUGURAL SPEECH JUJ MAJUJ KLAN TAKE OVER Alhamdullilah ✨ Maybe this will guide people to actually research Islam themselves! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5CtKdG_kMrI.html An Najm What the OCCULTISTS don't want people to know is that the QURAN acts as KRYPTONITE against broadcasted 📻🗣️🎙️🎼 spell💤 😴 to both the Warlock Occultists and their Jinn 🧞 Shayateen 👽 POWER TO THE PEOPLE instead of POWER TO THE NWO BAND OF COLONIALIST PIRATE'S 🏴☠️🧙🏻♀️🧙🏼♂️
I am thankful to Salman for his book. It may have been a detriment to his own life (I am not aware of whether he’s expressed any regret or not), but he proved how strong fiction can be, even compared to non-fictional literature, in terms of the truth about the powers that be that control our lives.
Mohammed was more like delusional than fictional, unless he was both and just a character himself which would make his delusion a trait of a character yet still delusional.
@@SaintMatthieuSimard Dear Matthieu, please learn about Islam properly. This is important intro to know; Quran was revealed in chapters and verses, it's God telling muhammad a story of previous prophet as a lesson, and it's God giving orders and teaching Muhammad what to preach. So the whole Quran is specifically directed towards Muhammad saw and is a reminder for us. During war time we had violent verses. ru-vid.com/group/PLBx_RCTuVkpoanKd4XMlNhdl2uZgL_2uJ During peace time we had peaceful verses, during preaching time he was given preaching verses, or when people asked him questions, Allah revealed answers to things no one can know at a desert. .. These are the external context, and internal context is within QURAN, usually required for understanding stories. . Bear in mind that infact there is Internal and external context to every sentence in quran.(I didn't know this, when I originally converted to Islam, I left Islam due to misunderstanding and lies I was being told by people on RU-vid, I respected these people, until I decided to learn from someone qualified in Islamic studies, now I'm a Muslim, and am learning, good luck to you) If you are English speaker and want to learn, then read. Muhammad: His Life Based on the Earliest Sources by the late Dr. Martin Lings. It was during the time of this book that he accepted islam. There are minor errors, if you ever feel confused then look at the chain of narration it's usually weak chains or unreliable that have issues. You can also read this: *In the Footsteps of the Prophet by Tariq Ramadan* You can also see the video series done by Sheik uthman, called prophet Muhammad life from authentic sources. (There is a difference between authentic and early.) If you don't want to learn this way, but in depth by yourself, then go to Islamic school And learn from people with credentials in Islam, your misconceptions will vanish like mine. Here is a intro to Islam if you want. ru-vid.com/group/PLBx_RCTuVkpr2lgdqJVGzAUCLLqDIjLE6 With all due respect, all the best to you!
Thank you for the explanation. Freedom of speech and expression have _always_ been under attack because they threaten power. And the battle continues today.
@@RolandHulme Roland how would you feel if I write a fictionalized story (a book) about the God, the Holy Spirit and the son where the son is corrupted and twists the Word of God? It definitely has to do with our faith, and no I do not promote or support that kind of violence! But I condemn it strongly and it disgusts me! The very fact this book was written and published under a Christian majority country proves how powerful the foreign and non-Islamic powers are to defame a religion! The fact that those terrorist groups and organizations that call themselves Muslims were established and funded by USSR and USA in the early 1980’s if I’m not mistaken; go read some history man!! Those are not Muslims! But pagans according to true Islam! How would you feel one writing a steamy novel on your wife or daughter and his ways of doing things with your wife and daughter and call it freedom of speech! And spread that in your entire neighborhood! What would you do! Say it’s a fictional story! Would you kept your pants on! Come on man! Freedom of speech doesn’t mean anything you say is okay! Would you be offended or attack me (at least verbally) Wish my English skills were better so you could grasp what I’m trying to say here! Watched your entire video and encouraging you to research about true Islam! Not the Islam the news media tells you nor do the Islam that terrorists represent, plz!
Disresprecting a religion of 1/4 of the world is distasteful and arrogance of the ultimate level.There is a difference b/w freedom of speech and disrespecting anyones faith and beliefs.Every action has a reaction.The west should know this before slapping their ideology on everyone.Learn to respect or it will be taught
@SkiptoAcceptanceM’darlin’ I know that you are helpless and incapable. Islam is 2 billion strong. We are a reality and we are here to stay, you cannot bring an end to us, no matter how much you try. You can try to tarnish us and the image of your beloved Prophet, but the truth will always prevail and Allah our Lord is testing our faith. We will never accept the hocus pocus of atheism. Live and let live, don't force your way of life upon us. We are believers and you are disbelievers. Remember that this life on earth is not yours alone.
@Jermilli Vanilli That's not true. We believe non-Muslim who do well, will enter paradise. We also believe all Muslims will enter paradise, after they are held accountable for their deeds. People who get away with murder, stealth and all sorts of horrible things, you want all these people to not go to hell? How just are you. They should burn in hell forever
Definitely it's scary! if one gets angry by a fictional story to the extent of trying to kill some one the he should question his beliefs. Though, I do not like Salman Rushdie & his book but I'd confront him with logic & positive arguments rather than getting angry.
I think that deep down, those who would wish Rushdie harm do not believe that their god is all powerful at all, that he is impotent and needs others to do his dirty work.
Thanks for this! This was the best video at giving me succinct & effective context for the recent events. I'd never heard of Rushdie before but now i am *fascinated* . I found your commentary insightful as well. Keep up the great work 🙂
Thanks a lot for your video. I have just finished the book and also wanted to make a video sharing thoughts about it, and your video is superb with plenty of great examples. We should stop violate one's freedom of expression, albeit it being inappropriate, and justify our wrongdoings by simply saying "well, it's offensive and against what I believe"
Thank you for this video! Everyone can learn something about themselfes and society from this video. And I believe everyone might learn something different, but still ... I think everyone to read this knows what I am talking about. Nothing more needs to be said.
@@Therock151214 Did muhammad not have long hair like hippie He was the greastest sex maniac according to your koran.All sagrs,holy men from all faiths had long hair or bald hair.But non was a sex prediator
I haven't read Salman Rushdie's book, but I have read Jonathan Swift's work extensively, and in detail. He wrote many things apart from 'Gulliver's Travels' (which is a general satire upon humanity) - but the most powerful piece he ever wrote - and had to publish anonymously for fear of being accused of treason and 'sedition' (for which he could have been hanged) - was 'A Modest Proposal', in which the persona whom he adopts puts forward the idea that the best way for the Irish peasantry to better their lives in the Eighteenth Century would be to eat their own children. That work of his is the most forceful, brilliant, and most justified satire I have ever read - and I suspect the 'The Satanic Verses' can be seen as following in the same strain - i.e. it's in the same satiric genre. So I would disagree with you that 'The Satanic Verses' is 'merely' a work of 'fiction'. I suspect that it is a brilliant satire against extreme fundamentalist ideology - ideology which is ALWAYS flawed, and never justified as a basis for living one's life. Christopher Hitchens also voiced on several occasions a similar opinion about the questionable 'authenticity' of the Koran - but it was cancer that killed him, not a fundamentalist Islamic zealot - who wouldn't understand (and his ignorance is very dangerous) the literary notion and 'secular sanctity' of satire anyway. He probably wouldn't be aware of 'literature' at all - the only book in his life a cobbled-together mish-mash of Old Testament and other dodgy texts claiming to be the sacred WORD.
well written, a bit lenghty and it is required as everyone views with a bias. I am also a fan of Swift, but did not hear about this book. Let me read it. The real reason an educated muslim is unhappy is to say 'Satanic Verses' are those that are read daily five times a day across the globe by only one religion. For me, there is no GOD, and it has been proved time and again, the men of science are rescuing Salman and he will come back alive albeit a one eyed man.
If you are having an intellectual discussion with someone, and they start insulting you - they lost. That's pretty much it, they literally admitted defeat right then and there. But if you respond with violence, you have devolved yourself to an even LOWER level than they have, and now you're the one who lost.
Yes, of course, insults are the tell tale sign of someone that is actually weak minded. One always has to remember that such people are willing to use violence.
I remember when the fatwa was issued by the ayatollah. I also remember my good friend who worked at a book store saying "there's no need to take the book off the shelves" in order to avoid protests or violence, because it immediately sold out. The ayatollah's reaction did more to publicize the book and create demand for it than if he had said nothing. Alas, Islam hasn't had a reformation like the Christian or Hebrew faith...yet? (There's still a modicum of faith left in This athiest, apparently.)
Reformation sounds like something beautiful. In case of Christianity, it was about undoing the changes of power structures to make Christianity a better tool for the powerful ones. That also explains why the reformation was bloody: Vatican wasn't willing to cede its power and the kings and lords trying to get out of its sphere of power often converted to reformed Christianity for more practical rather than religious reasons. But if you reform Islam, what can you expect? There is Quran, Sīra and Hadiths. With a lot of verses hostile or straight out murderous towards us infidels (kafir). If you reform that, you can expect something like ISIL (Daesh) killing the kafir, you can expect military expansion, slave trade, genocides of the Hebrew, Christian ethnicities like Armenians, or various syncretic religious communities like Yezidis. I wouldn't call for them to reform, I'd rather call for them to read the book this video was about, denounce Muhammad as a false prophet, and maybe convert to Christianity. That being said, for each individual, this is an immense risk: Their own family will want to kill them to protect their "honor".
Religions have had many reformations, so did Islam but it being the most recent religion and having had no reformation since 500 years ago can explain why it's stalling and retrograding
@@gozearbus1584 But how could there be a significant reform towards 21st century? Christianity became a crusading religion, but Jesus himself and his direct disciples waged no conquest. Islam, on the other hand, was raiding caravans and settlements during Muhammad's life, and spreading by its political and military power. How can anyone reform that?
Wow…first time I’ve ever watched the channel, the first vid I’ve seen of you…and I’m blown away by the candid discussion... I will be subbed and watching for new vids…good sir, I salute you.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. It’s also the first video I’ve seen of this man and it’s refreshing to watch a video on YT where someone is so articulate and intelligent.
what's wrong with that?😂 well the jews bewitched him. It just shows he just a human without supernatural power. After thst Allah revealed verses to protect him from being bewitched🤣. see you just quoting a hadith without knowing its context, its just shows how ignorance you guys are. lol
@@aukasajalad561 So the jews are more powerful than Allah? Didn't the Quran says that satan only can do that to bad people? If Muhammed taught that satan was jibril how can we be sure if that's the only time satan gave Muhammed verses?
Love this video. Freedom of speech was slapped when Chris Rock was slapped for his joke. I lived in iran till I was 15 and one of the greatest differences between iran and USA is freedom in comedy. Smith should have faced many consequences. Don’t take your freedom lightly and value them highly. I like the analogy you used right on.
Their are some limits of freedom of speech if you mock insult lies about pur beloved prophet peace be upon him who is more beloved to us more than our parents than you are the reason for your spread of hate and shamlessness
@@muhammadhussain5854 This comment perfectly illustrates why Islam is not compatible with the West. Imagine having a belief system so fragile that you feel the need to silence or even kill someone who mocks it. Pathetic.
Anytime you take to arms to defend your God, it demeans the very God that you are defending. It implies that God cannot do the business himself and needs a helping hand.
Good of you to acknowledge that many of your friends are more upstanding than yourself. And Salman Rushdie is getting what he wanted., his book to be recognized and himself to be propelled into greater fame...literary and comedic, as the comedies he produced with Larry David.
I think when someone makes a joke against a person that sits in an audience it is quite different than writing a fictional book. One has to expect strong reactions, albeit insults should not be uttered in the first place, certainly not in front of a huge audience, certainly not in front of someone that cares for a person that is insulted. Physical violence should be completely refrained from, regardless. It is just ugly.
Reminds me of when Malcolm Muggeridge and the Bishop Of Southwark "debated" cleese and Palin over the "blasphemous" "Life Of Brian" movie. (The Bishop admitted that he hadn't seen the film). The Christian hard liners picketed cinemas, and the movie's success was guaranteed. I read Rushdie's book based on the furore at the time. The irony is, it's not very good. Had it just been ignored it would have slipped into obscurity, and may well have been out of print after a few years.
@@JK-sz1xy sometimes it is better ignore. Sometime it is better to retaliate. In islam we have both options & we should choose whichever suits our nation best.
I've had a copy of SV for years and never got around to reading it. Maybe it's a difficulty with cause and effect but as you said @16:45 (or something to this effect) I tended to think it was a marketing gimmick. I have the same suspicion about the shooting at the Rush set Maybe it's just the sheer flood of books and ideas out there that at 72, I'm a little overwhelmed and find it difficult to get the right focus on so many influences. I'm not blaming Rushdie for the attack on himself. There's a line in the Gospels where Jesus says "be happy when you are persecuted". Maybe because it means someone is paying attention to you? I'm tending to think the world IS the mind of God thinking about everything it can all the time. But it gets confusing. BTW - very nice synopsis. I was going to do a longer search but you really hit the spot somehow. Dave Chapel probably never cleaned a public restroom in his life because you really can't do what some of his jokes said. I'm gay and didn't find them very funny because they weren't at all plausible. And I have a problem remembering the modern terms for the old situation of gender identity. It took me decades to become more accepting of being a "Poof" and then they got complicated again.
Islam commands people to do exactly what that person did. Why is it when it comes to Islam people bend over backwards to say its not the religion when it is.
How is speech that goes against religion not hate speech? If we want to be honest we can be honest. I am an open minded Christian who thinks that Muslims have the right to exist and practise their religion just as I do. It is no use writing books or making speeches that you sure know would ruffle feathers among the christian or Muslim community or any other community. I wouldn't do or recommend it. But if one feels that they have the right to say what is offensive to others without empathy or compassion or any understanding of what it makes them feel, then they are ignorant of human nature.Humans are what we are. Little can be done to radically change us. We must rather seek understanding of human nature and try to live in peace with others.
King james never wrote the bible and the council of nacea never put pen to paper in relation to its content. Anybody with a theological background would knows that the bible was a compilation of already existing text that was dispersed around the churches.
As a devout Muslim I don't justify attack on Rushdi. The prophet even prayed for his attackers when he was attacked in his lifetime. Muslims need to follow the prophet. There has been hundreds of false stories written against prophet but only deviants looking to falsify the True religion will use it to attack Islam.
Thanks for this down to earth and sober analysis. I just finished reading this book. Honestly, I didn't find it to be that good of a story and couldn't wait to be done with it. Nothing to do with the religious content, but the storytelling style just didn't grab me.
I am not too interested in religious matter, however the history behind different religions I find fascinating and how the lives of people back then and now are shaped by it. Even though I am not religious I am fascinated by different religions. Many religions recount historical events and many say that fantasy actually played a role as well way back then when religious matters were described. A lot of ancient people also had beliefs that reached into very different areas than religion and then mixed those beliefs with a certain religion. When you study certain people from this earth many have incorporated their own ancient beliefs with the religion that was then later on introduced into their countries and then end up following a mixture of beliefs. I would never tell anyone what to believe because I am not all knowing, and don't want to be.
Stop being dishonest The book has everything to do with Islam and prophet Muhammad It's just another view Look at some Islamic countries and their blasphemy law Where did you think it came from Thin air
Thank you for this, sir, great video and explaination! It makes me deeply sad we exist in such a reality where the human mind may see life, religion, free speech, right of an opinion, right of an alternative point of view in such a way that the only reaction is violence. To put it plainly, this is not a behavior of a rational, sentient being.
The Council of Nicaea was convened by the emperor Constantine to resolve the controversy of Arianism, it had nothing to do with choosing which books go in the Bible.
Stop blabbering nonsense; Islam means SUBMISSION and this attack is an attempt to make non-Muslims to submit to their view of God and everything they define.
The more you try to silence someone, the stronger their voice becomes. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Only the weak are scared of ideas that are against theirs, the strong face them with grace and respect.
I am not a reader but wanted to read this book and I couldn't go forward. Thanks for this summary, it gave me the idea of what it is. You talking about relevant topic of violence was awesome .....I am sure we would have been great friends, take care 👍👍👍👍
Well, that's an oversimplification of how the KJV was influenced by the biases of its translators, most of which was unconscious on their part, only occasionally rising to something approaching consciousness (like how ecclessia or "assembly" is translated as "Church"). The truth is that every religion reflects the culture it comes from, to some extent. If they didn't, they would have no followers. That doesn't mean the religions are worthless, it just means that religious fundamentalism misrepresents what religion actually is.
Great video, thanks for explaining the Satanic verses and agree about religion controlling masses..and one thing from my childhood which came up when was what it it was the rhyme... "Sticks and Stones may brake my bones but names will never hurt me" Think that's the point. Words written or verbal may be offensive but if we want to be civilised we shouldn't resort to violence. in a perfect world they wouldn't but it's easier said than done and that is utopia and we are all animals also one last point about Satanic verses being a "fictional" book my point would be isn't all religion all about "stories" of recollections?? so isn't it all fictional or is that getting too deep?
They believe that muhammad is God...this is why they kill Not loving the prophet (Allah bless Him and give Him peace) more than all the people P75.2 The prophet (PBUH) said, None of you believes until I am more beloved to him Than his wife, child, self and all other people…. This is blasphemy against the one true God of Israel and Christ Momo is telling his followers to love him with all their hearts souls and minds…is Muhammad God…is Muhammad Allah….this is in the sharia….you muslims believe in shirk..period The Book of the Reliance of the Traveler
it's not fictional at all it's so deep the writer is smart, the way he pointed out each part of the Islamic history and the war btw the two main groups specially Iran and Saudi wasn't a joke. at least for us who knows what he means and also he attacked Christian faith ,but was soo deep with Muslims. all that anger wasn't from nothing but still killing someone is way too much 😔
Well done ! Our freedom of speech has been compromised for many years and we should not feed the beast when the words of their truth ring dominant. All based on the power over another - ignore them or just test their sense of humor - that always makes them check themselves. I have found that the more insecure you are the more you have to stand behind number.
There is a slight difference between Will Smith slapping someone's face for making fun of his wife and multiple stabs to the head,body and neck suffered by Salmon Rushdie for writing a book.The crazy islam brigade will always choose violence over dialogue.
Your explanation of how we get the KJV seems to be confusing some claims often made about the much earlier council of Nicea, which aren’t right either. While the KJV is just a translation, and has issues as a translation, it had nothing to do with picking cannon.
This kind of speaking out against unjustified violence in the name of religion is really needed. The actual revolutionary promoters of religion, like Jesus had simple rules of thumb like love thy neighbor and don't throw stones. If only religious people could adhere to that advice ..
The Satanic Verses is an outstanding piece of literature. I've read and enjoyed it three times. By the way, the incident of the "Satanic verses" is not something Rushdie invented from whole cloth; it is based on a true historic controversy that actually erupted long ago in history.
It is not simple case of offending a person, but a culture of millions which has evolved from that book. There is history of crusade against Islamic culture, which has hardened attitudes and created a siege mentality, of the world being antagonist to them. Change, if that's Rushdie's purpose, cannot come from offending the sensibilities of millions but by making them see reason. It is easy to criticise without understanding the background under which feudal ideas took roots in Iran. A fact is that an elected Mossadeh government in the early 1950s was deposed by CIA murdering by him and installing in his place a vassal, Shah of Iran, as care taker of Iranian oil assets over which American companies had complete control and investments in which these companies capitalized over several decades, sharing virtually nothing with the Iranian people themselves. Mossadeh, after his elections wanted to restore what belonged to Iranians to Iranians. For this he was murdered. With this the life of flowering economy and emerging liberal society was cut short for vested commercial interests of a handful of American companies and their investors. Shah, a comprador, who was brought in was not only authoritarian but cruel - a sort who would brook no protests as he ran the country with iron hand. In this atmosphere religion was the only source to unite around to throw out Shah and with him the Americans. Inevitably, in absence of any progressive options, people united around the Iranian clerics in order to break loose from American neo colonialism grip over that country, through it's most cruel monarchy. This ended any chance of liberal cultural transformation of Iran which had begun in short lived democracy. The history of Afghanistan is similar. But the history of greatest treachery is to be found in how the British and the French betrayed the panarabic independence leaders during ww1, who were seeking independence from the ottomans. Instead of helping them achive this independence in return for their help against the turks, these powers were busy signing treaties behind their back on dividing these lands into areas of their interests. After the war, these powers broke up the Arab lands into small kingdoms and emirates, installing the feudal lords who would allow them the exploitation and control of the common wealth of all Arabs, for their own self. Such has been the history of the west in promoting feudalism and while suppressing liberal culture from emerging. This brings us to Rushdie. Frankly, I have not read him, but his statements that the writer must have freedom to even offend doesn't appeal to me. If his aim is to reform, no body has ever been reformed by offending deeply inbuilt beliefs. Change can only come through creating objective conditions for change. But if Rushdie wrote it to establish his liberal credentials in a country which prides in its liberal culture and which he has made it his home, it is even worse. Unfortunately, the liberalism by which the western governments swear and project themselves as upholder of these values have no serious commitment to these same values. Liberalism is just a fascade behind which they have committed the worst crimes against millions. They used this Lofty principle expediency to deceive and ferment troubles in other countries, for their own ends. This has been reflected in the wreckage of failed states they have left behind, messing up lives of ordinary people, all for serving their own narrow interests. Liberal values can only proliferate when people themselves feel the need for it. It cannot be imposed by outside, by big powers whose intentions are a suspect. Rushdie, if at all has failed to grasp this aspect. If barbarism is to be rooted out, it requires good will not faux liberalism, hiding behind it the treacherous intentions.
Mossadegh was not murdered but kept under house arrest until his death in 1967, a full 14 years after he was overthrown from office by the CIA. Agreed FULLY with the rest of your comment, Modak Ji! 👍🙏
In the Quran, there is a section where Muhammad thinks he is receiving revelations from Allah, but is actually being deceived by satan, but only realises after he is told about it. In other words he couldn’t tell the difference. Hence they are named as they are, and Muslims don’t like any negative connotations aimed at the Quran, or Muhammad. If people not of the Muslim faith, would read the Quran, and the four trusted Hadiths, sahih Bukhari, sahih Muslim, sunan al-sughra, and sunan Abu Dawood, and read sharia law, they will see that the young man, who stabbed Salman Rushdie was just being a good Muslim. It is not a religion of peace. Stay away from Islam.
Also I made a playlist that Refutes every single claim an islamophobe made about Islam also these are reaction videos so they let islamaphobes like dovid 19 aprostrate profit and coward princes speak first then show sources to refute them ru-vid.com/group/PLHV1F1HH20lbrl-7VgRdJhJ6KLOOdk0Dt Yeah you do have to begin from the top first video till the bottom last video second watch the FULL video before commenting you guys always do that which makes no sense
As an infant i had no choice but to accept Islam and be a Muslim. later i still remember when i was a teen everybody I know hate this name Salman Rushdie so I did the same I had no choice. But now I can see clearly that I was manipulated and I am really ashamed of myself.
...God is on the side of truth. ..he reveals the truth to those who sincerely seek him... Salmon Rushdie isnt following God either but its Gods job to deal with him, not mine.. I must do everything to help people find faith so that they dont end up in the wrong place, killing them would send them there sooner with no second chance...
@@JuliexSteadman I really like your comment. If the GOD youre sincerely seeking resonates with this; Truth Beauty Mystery Awe love wonder hope affection ... . .... . . then, girl we are really following the same religion. Peace.
@@mohsinmoin-ur-rasheed6524 As agnostic born into Hindu my family never killed me if I said I reject faith in early days or justified swx slavery or anything and we are literally 1.2 billon people and the problem is we say caste is stupid system and actively trying to abolish it why no Muslims hate muhhamad even if they know how cruel like his words are like a prophet of Satan no really if bhudda saw muhhamad he would pick a sword even Jesus was kind the brainwashing in islamoc community is literally scary like dystopia type of stuff .
For the average believer maybe but the Islamic elite throughout the centuries have certainly used it to hold power, and likely believed their own lies.
There are wonderful muslims, but muslims (especially practicing watered down versions) vs the islam ideology and what the Quran instructs are not necessarily the same. So many muslims calling the stabber a hero on twitter. As far as the Council of Nicea, it was NOT to discuss what books to be put in the bible (it was put together long before that). It was to discuss the nature of the TRINITY.
I was a student when the Rushdie book came out, and my Muslim friends and I talked about it, of course. My friend and I come from North-Africa, and we disapproved the book, without getting too upset about it, but her husband was from Lebanon, and both he and his friends were much more upset about it. Those from the Middle-East are far more emotional. Of course, that has to do a lot with many of those countries having had colonial pasts, with US-led war in their country for oil afterwards...they never show the destruction brought about by those wars on MSM, but the suffering has been immense...young children raped and killed in front of their parents, or parents beaten to death in front of their children, sex-slavery, torture, forcing men to do it with men in prisons, all the humiliations the ''liberators'' could think of, were applied...And then came the famine, lack of medical care,etc...still they keep on going. Often the one thing they have left is their faith, and the hope of a happy after-life. I can understand that you can call religion a means to achieve control, but mostly it was meant to show a way out of bondage. To spit on the only sacred left in the lives of those who have been suffering so much should not be done. And I must honestly say that although most of us (dangerous Muslims) reacted only with indifference when hearing of this book, we all got a nasty impression when we saw the face of Rushdie, for we thought he looked quite satanic himself. Bottom line, Muslims who get a proper education and are not plagued with lots of emotional traumas usually prefer enjoying a cup of coffee on a terrace rather than going off stabbing people...while western countries preach tolerance at home, and often spread death and destruction abroad...not so tolerant at all, just a facade.
This is the first video, of Mr. Hulme's, I've ever seen. I am very pleased to see (and impressed by the fact) that Roland is, like myself, a Free speech absolutist! Very nice! I smashed the like button. Elon Musk is also a free speech absolutist.
The book is not offensive nor does it says that what's written is truth. The problem with this case is that there are a bunch who are offended by anything but are ashamed of nothing.
Allah's apostle himself did these acts what was done to Sir Salman Rushdie Hashtag# justice for the first apostate and exposer of the fake Prpht Abdullah Ibn Saad ibn Abi Sarh former scribe for big M. Hashtag# justice for Fartana a slave girl of Abdullah Ibn Khatal killed she wrote satirical poem critical Big M's claims. Hashtag# justice Asma bint Marwan , 7th century female poet who lived in Medina whose poetry was critical of Big M and his claims ,brutally executed Hashtag# justice for Arab pagan physician Al Nadr ibn Al Harith Arab pagan physician and critic of Mohammed,captured at battle of Badr . Ali ibn abu-Talib on command of Mohammed beheaded him in front Mohammed and his companions. Hashtag# justice for Ka'ab ibn Al-Asraf a Jewish poet 7th century Medina. He was assassinated on Mohammed's orders for being critical of Mohammed's claims. Hashtag# Justice for Uqba ibn Abi Mu'yat . A Quraysh one of the principal adversary of Islam. He was a Quraysh leader and a member of the Banu Abd shams clan. According to Muslim scholar Safin Rahaman Al Mubarakpuri after the battle of Badr he was taken captive and beheaded by prophet's lieutenant Ali . Also mentioned in Sunan Abu Dawud# 2686 and Anwal Ma' bud 3/12 Hashtag # forgiveness is the ornament of the strong , a requirement for those who seek to ascend the throne of prophethood, there is prospering power in forgiveness. Ka' ab ibn Zuhayr ibn Abi Suluma killed for writing satirical poem critical of Big M claims. One of his poems recorded Ibn is'haq includes the lines : "I was told the messenger of Allah has threatened me with death, but being a messenger of Allah I have hope of finding pardon" Hashtag# Justice Abu Afak elderly euridite Jewish poet 7th century Arabia. He did not convert to Islam wrote poems questioning Big M and his claims . Infuriated Big M called for his death ,this elderly intellect was killed by Salim ibn Umayr on Big M orders
I'm a Muslim and I don't think anyone should be punished or killed for writing a book. Ideas are supposed to be faced with ideas . Not guns or knives. Peace for all of us.
Muhammad had his critics executed. He murdered/ordered the murder of many poets that produced poems slandering him. People tend to be a reflectlion of their role models.
The portion relating to the formation of the Koran in this book is such a small part of the story I missed it on first reading. I think the most inflammatory part is the book title.
I know a lot of Muslims who are proud and secure about their faith who just go about their day peacefully and I feel so bad for them when they are held accountable or responsible for the senseless acts of violence and hate by a small subsection of their community.
