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@TMV_should_oil_up_as_promised
@TMV_should_oil_up_as_promised 21 день назад
Remember when TMV said that he would oil up if GenG won (real)
@abrawolf
@abrawolf 21 день назад
No one has corrected this statement so it must be true
@meiaio
@meiaio 21 день назад
​@@abrawolfno community note, so it must be true
@afox804
@afox804 21 день назад
I remember mhm mhm
@fridgerated220
@fridgerated220 21 день назад
I can't believe TMV is gonna oil up! (real)
@stringofbeans1244
@stringofbeans1244 21 день назад
Should do this every vid to remind this Old Man to oil up
@sanjaikp24
@sanjaikp24 21 день назад
I love the Reyna Part btw Edit : The Reyna Part 14:35
@mudkyko5837
@mudkyko5837 20 дней назад
here is the reyna guide:
@arsalanafroz
@arsalanafroz 21 день назад
Doctor: I'm sorry, you have lung cancer TMV: how will this affect the meta? Doctor: meta-stasis
@LingLing-tq5od
@LingLing-tq5od 20 дней назад
could be a short Meta
@piecake9173
@piecake9173 20 дней назад
Huge buff to smokes
@mogrimy1637
@mogrimy1637 21 день назад
The Reyna analysis is crazy. TMV the GOAT
@user-eb7pm3fs7q
@user-eb7pm3fs7q 21 день назад
The only needed reyna analysis. For iso and yoru too tbh but reyna is by far the truest
@moosenocap
@moosenocap 20 дней назад
@@user-eb7pm3fs7qthe yoru main club disliked this message
@Octochiken
@Octochiken 20 дней назад
​@@user-eb7pm3fs7q Yoru is played often in pro play. So an analysis is needed.
@user-eb7pm3fs7q
@user-eb7pm3fs7q 20 дней назад
@@Octochiken on breeze only and team lulquid. Not relevant anymore tbh
@Octochiken
@Octochiken 20 дней назад
@@user-eb7pm3fs7q At Shanghai it was 9% overal and 58% on breeze. This is similar to brim and astra.
@wessamkhalaf8132
@wessamkhalaf8132 21 день назад
The silence after Reyna is hilarious
@ostrige8417
@ostrige8417 21 день назад
My dog bit me today how will this effect the meta
@mreverything7056
@mreverything7056 21 день назад
Astra concuss will now concuss players irl
@zecomrade82
@zecomrade82 21 день назад
Breach will flash irl
@JayJayJJJJ
@JayJayJJJJ 21 день назад
Viper will be the one coming irl
@gareeb4959
@gareeb4959 21 день назад
Iso will see pro play
@Dom-dq8ru
@Dom-dq8ru 21 день назад
Harbor will be pearling irl
@DecipherXXV
@DecipherXXV 21 день назад
Loved the insight on Reyna, I had nothing to say about it.
@arsalanafroz
@arsalanafroz 21 день назад
Mercury is in gatorade, how will this affect the meta?
@butcherdesuyoi
@butcherdesuyoi 20 дней назад
Damn, the Reyna part is insane. She dismiss fast enough to escape from TMV's video.
@exhausted204
@exhausted204 21 день назад
I honestly don't think duelists are gonna be needed as badly on this map, in my experience its really easy to split on b site + it just being a terrible site for a sentinel, and mid is easy to just run down as an attacker, jett is good still because an oper is nice but the map reminds me of lotus/icebox in a way with how it plays
@funkycrawler619
@funkycrawler619 20 дней назад
I feel like Sentinels are pretty strong on this map lol
@IrisOfUnova
@IrisOfUnova 20 дней назад
Sova is cool but you forgot to account that fades color scheme matches better w abyss
@yellow8760
@yellow8760 21 день назад
abyss feels like it was meant to replace breeze and icebox, idk why they'd keep icebox in the pool with it
@MasySlz
@MasySlz 21 день назад
Cuz icebox is much more liked than breeze
@nickygian
@nickygian 20 дней назад
@@MasySlz no way, I hate breeze but icebox is just the worse designed map period.
@funkycrawler619
@funkycrawler619 20 дней назад
@@MasySlz Even if it is that aint a good comparison and id even prefer Breeze over Icebox cause it serves its purpose even if I hate it
@funkycrawler619
@funkycrawler619 20 дней назад
I dont know why Split got taken out over Icebox
@El-ms8dl
@El-ms8dl 20 дней назад
@@MasySlz icebox is dogshit
@agustincapmany5236
@agustincapmany5236 21 день назад
I think we’re underselling Kayo here. Combined with sova dart/drone, kayos knife makes anchoring a site super difficult, and with a few lineups his flash will be elite
@hogiepogie4
@hogiepogie4 21 день назад
Interesting Reyna ideas! I'll be sure to try them out in my ranked games xD
@Shroomoo
@Shroomoo 21 день назад
I wish TMV wouldve mentioned what he reckons the meta comp will be overall (In pro level) He said that he thinks double controller will be strong, but also that sova is very strong, and that jett is strong too. So meta might be a no flash comp? Jett, Sova, Cypher/KJ, Astra/Harbour, Viper I cant see no sentinel comp happening because theres too much potential for lurks
@nutzl6381
@nutzl6381 21 день назад
reyna part goes hard i think its gonna be meta
@anthonyc.873
@anthonyc.873 21 день назад
Iso is an anti-op agent both his wall and shield will help him survive against an op. Imagine popping shield and then ulting their operator using Jett/chamber they have no shot.
@funkycrawler619
@funkycrawler619 20 дней назад
Gotta love a map with a lot agent diversity but it does seem the Controllers are the most interesting class here where double controller is needed not out of strategy but necessity cause the dome smokes don't really work on this map that well
@Loum1s
@Loum1s 20 дней назад
i really wished rito made phoenix's wall goes through walls like harbour's
@gamist8166
@gamist8166 21 день назад
Reynas explanations was my fav
@HotDavid
@HotDavid 20 дней назад
Really amazing Reyna explanation, I totally see that
@jackhirschberg1223
@jackhirschberg1223 20 дней назад
My take on every agent: Breach is better than you said because he can stun off all the ops Fade good but not as good as sova Gekko pretty decent cuz he can plant in dangerous places and defuses in a spam map Kayo mid he cant scan a whole site due to how big the map is but i think he will still be viable due to his flashes being able to push off ops Skye OK, normal skye gameplay Sova meta the linups in such a big map will go crazy 😅
@matthewtenkate3105
@matthewtenkate3105 20 дней назад
2023 EG would’ve gone crazy on this map
@kio5885
@kio5885 21 день назад
I love how reyna gonna be played in this map. Thanks for the analysis
@VitalisProd
@VitalisProd 20 дней назад
Reyna part is the best tbh😮
@chron3rpl
@chron3rpl 21 день назад
I love the part when TMV says 'pretty good' ❤
@amateursthoughts
@amateursthoughts 20 дней назад
META comp prediction: jett, Sova, Breach, Omen, Cypher
@herpothefoul9606
@herpothefoul9606 21 день назад
i reckon gekko breach omen astra jett will be the best comp maybe u can switch out breach/astra fof cypher or jett for chamber
@solozyro72
@solozyro72 20 дней назад
call me crazy: harbor, omen, breach, neon, kj and a gekko perhaps
@muddassirmazhar
@muddassirmazhar 20 дней назад
That Reyna Analysis man! hahahaha
@pekka_37
@pekka_37 21 день назад
I love the part about reyna
@D4ng3rousVAL
@D4ng3rousVAL 19 дней назад
TMV, what do you think will be the default/meta comp for Abyss?
@clementxanero8078
@clementxanero8078 20 дней назад
I think you should have talked more about gekko on Ct because he will be good on almost every map on t but his ct is so limited especially on this map where you have 0 good info flashes
@torak7711
@torak7711 21 день назад
What do you think the meta comp will be? Something like harbor/viper/Astra (two of those three) killjoy sova Jett?
@torak7711
@torak7711 21 день назад
Surely a lack of flashes will make this map harder to play so maybe something a bit more traditional like a standard breeze/icebox comp
@zecomrade82
@zecomrade82 21 день назад
how about Sova Jett Harbor Viper/Astra KAYO/Breach Or alternatively we can drop one controller for cypher/KJ
@paulhorbenko9560
@paulhorbenko9560 21 день назад
maybe KJ Viper Jett Gekko Sova?
@zecomrade82
@zecomrade82 21 день назад
@@paulhorbenko9560 solo viper on this map is not really optimal.... Could work but why go the hard way
@user-Lemon234
@user-Lemon234 20 дней назад
Kj isn’t the best due to the utility making you have to play in range, cypher just gets more info as well and lets you rotate with having utility up in case people rotate on attack and when on attack cypher can place a flank trip and lurk, cypher feels better than kj on this map ngl
@sebastienxing8372
@sebastienxing8372 21 день назад
Idk, to me a good comp on that map would look like yoru-sova-breach-cypher-astra/harbor
@abigailann6869
@abigailann6869 21 день назад
So after playing this map, so far it didnt matter who I played everyone just ran at each other.
@PhukingMonkey
@PhukingMonkey 21 день назад
Any chance of an updated Haven meta?
@prathmeshgupta9671
@prathmeshgupta9671 21 день назад
Prx pearl comp with sova instead of fade would do
@aaqp5218
@aaqp5218 19 дней назад
Ok, but when are you doing the thug shake?
@gaspara9817
@gaspara9817 21 день назад
Sova has never been meta as a solo initiator. I think we've already established this is going to be a 2 controller map. So for sova to be meta we are playing either without a Duelist (like Icebox which seems unlikely because this map has actual chokes) or a Sentinel (like Bind because lurking is less of an issue generally and Viper at least until recently offered sufficient stall).
@HighlyShifty
@HighlyShifty 21 день назад
Basically the same as fade being solo on lotus
@gaspara9817
@gaspara9817 21 день назад
@@HighlyShifty Fade actually has a lot more area denial and suppression than Sova. For a while after she came out when you could get the dogs to hit people pretty consistently she was actually the go to solo initiator. Additionally seize + nade combo has some pretty strong synergy on that map.
@HighlyShifty
@HighlyShifty 20 дней назад
@@gaspara9817 Literally my only point was that solo initiator that isn't a flash initiator can work
@gaspara9817
@gaspara9817 20 дней назад
@@HighlyShifty Sure, it can, but it never has with Sova and that is mainly because the rest of the team comp would have to cover for the fact that his shock darts are not strong enough area denial and his other 2 pieces of util are purely intel related. He would probably need a team featuring yoru/phoenix and astra/omen to have a chance at solo initiator.
@HighlyShifty
@HighlyShifty 19 дней назад
@@gaspara9817 Do you think seize is stronger area denial than two shocks?
@marbrn9268
@marbrn9268 21 день назад
Yoru effectively has a chamber TP when standing on an edge. Just jump off the map and tp.
@Schue7ze
@Schue7ze 21 день назад
Jett, Harbour/Viper, Gekko, Sova/Fade, Cypher
@gsand2892
@gsand2892 15 дней назад
So it is a Reyna map. TY TMV
@nanijp6165
@nanijp6165 21 день назад
breech ult can push them off the map😲
@Magnum69
@Magnum69 21 день назад
TMV2 is my favourite player
@crux7534
@crux7534 21 день назад
he's good jett player
@superearth5256
@superearth5256 21 день назад
Double initiator meta?
@aettz5143
@aettz5143 21 день назад
jett can glide out of the map and save op cuz her glide take her more than 30 (!!!) seconds to die in the pit
@cloudyskyz2237
@cloudyskyz2237 21 день назад
Deadlock, Cypher, Breach, Sova, Astra, Harbor, Jett, Raze meta Edit: I say Raze because her satchels are great to knock people off the map, like if they’re trying to defuse or plant.
@chillmatoes7125
@chillmatoes7125 20 дней назад
bro did reyna dirty
@FistBumpGunBuddy
@FistBumpGunBuddy 21 день назад
*if hehe
@Gefswitch
@Gefswitch 21 день назад
The sovarult
@yellow8760
@yellow8760 21 день назад
predicting heretics to run Miniboo - Yoru Wo0t - Jett Boo - Viper Riens - Sova Benjyfishy - Cypher
@hungo1450
@hungo1450 21 день назад
no one plays viper in 1 controller comp bro:)
@zecomrade82
@zecomrade82 21 день назад
nah miniboo neon gonna go crazy
@fierybl4de400
@fierybl4de400 21 день назад
just replace cypher with harbour or astra and copy the breeze meta
@krimzin4523
@krimzin4523 21 день назад
Heretics don’t run a yoru and woot will never be in a primary duilist as long as mini boo is in the lineup
@ElZedLoL
@ElZedLoL 20 дней назад
Sover will be matter
@happy_cookie3598
@happy_cookie3598 21 день назад
RAHHHHHH
@aryankamat
@aryankamat 21 день назад
11:25 no shit sherlock
@happybison1180
@happybison1180 17 дней назад
hear me out Sova Harbor Omen Sage Cypher
@mohammedmaazhameed7825
@mohammedmaazhameed7825 21 день назад
I believe: Beach Omen Harbor Jett Sova/Gekko/Neon
@illuminoeye_gaming
@illuminoeye_gaming 21 день назад
Reyna 👍
@silasfaath4656
@silasfaath4656 17 дней назад
I dont think sova will be meta, i exprct it will be played more like the ftacture comp 2 smokes, chamber/jett, neon, and sentinel Wait let me cook Breach, Neon, Chamber, Omen Viper
@FortniteGamer1945
@FortniteGamer1945 21 день назад
Reyna.
@mossmaiolo316
@mossmaiolo316 21 день назад
tmw wingman cannot plant from the second angle you showed on b, the one to the left. he will just fall off the map
@thehotd0g8
@thehotd0g8 21 день назад
Doesn't he jump?
@chintusharma4811
@chintusharma4811 21 день назад
He can plant he jumps the ledge and plant look it up
@koberto
@koberto 21 день назад
hey just some feedback! i think your reyna analysis was a bit too long and convoluted - would really appreciate it if you cut it down some more in your next vid! thanks 🙌
@user-ym5fm6ww2q
@user-ym5fm6ww2q 21 день назад
2nd
@mr.freaks1456
@mr.freaks1456 21 день назад
5Th❤
@flavioroberto9960
@flavioroberto9960 21 день назад
I think this map is bad, didn't like it a bit
@dziugazz
@dziugazz 21 день назад
Iso is worse than Reyna, so I don't understand why you're talking about him and not her. Are you sexist? Cancelled.
@user-eb7pm3fs7q
@user-eb7pm3fs7q 21 день назад
Iso is a go to agent since everybody will abuse the shit out of operator so his shield is the only savior from chambers here. Reyna doesn't offer even this
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