What Is Vulkan & Why Should Gamers CARE? 

let my guess, you play smite

+Albi Armando thx for the fact of the day

Vulcan is the Roman equivalent to Hephaestus in Greek mythology. Vulcan=Hephaestus Unless you have read Rick Riordan's books. 😁

andrius bal yas

+Rebecca Hernandez Rick isn't everything.

I like you.

Hi Spock

If Vulkan gets support, Linux gaming will be viable. You won't have to pay for new MS Windows every 2-3 years and your pockets WILL prosper. :P

@Love Thy Neighbor We tolerate things ... it's all logical in the end.

@@Veri7a Windows 10 is the last version, you won't have to worry about upgrading to a different version later on anymore.

RoundDuckMan That's how we won

Yeah fuck all that Windows 10 exclusivity bullshit (All of it)

Penguin!!

Let's roll...faster

Microsoft and Intel: you must install windows10 on new machine. Vavle and AMD: you can use newest api on windows 7

+Vhailor Mithras Shuddap Casshern...

+Vhailor Mithras LOL If anything it's illogical... Btw, it's not your decision which API the games will be using

If I can make a game for multi-platform without much effort. I will make it on that platform. Think, PS4 uses AMD cards. Steam will be vulkan. Google and Amazon are Vulkan. Expect games to have Vulkan.

Hollow114 You don't understand anything about programming. The card brand doesn't matter. The API does and Vulkan is just one of many and the least successful in its 20 year history... well may be a tad more successful than Glide... Consoles have their own 3D APIs and why on earth should Sony re-release their dev IDE to factor on Vulkan if they already have their own standard? Doesn't make any sense. Steam supports any API that's compatible with Windows btw...

+Xiaopang3333 look up a doom video running Vulcan. makes my case for me.

Likewise, instead of self-installing the malware that is windows10, I took the opportunity to switch to linux. I'm glad this is coming along.

@@SkidRowTrash what are you using now?

@@SkidRowTrash but its now been discontinued? I might add that linux gaming is IMMEASURABLY better in 2020 than it was in 2017 when you left this comment.

who care... they both free come with the game... it all about licensing.. with dlss and raytracing.. Vulcan can only do good fps on laptpp..

@@campkira what the hell are you saying

Yup, that's what he said

44thats44oars Something tells me you didn't click the "read more" thing. lol

+Ar7ific1al There are more people playing games than it as ever been before, and what do they play and spend money on? Mobile games, the kind of cancer that makes a shit load of money (from "gamers") and destroys your dreams. Couldn't care less if more people play games if don't demand quality, other than that it is spot on.

+Ar7ific1al I wow, I'm dumb. *thumbs downs own comment*

lol Don't worry about it, it happens. :)

I wonder if in theory we could get back Legacy Windows versions in the process of using Vulkan, it will make potentially older Graphics Cards and Older OS's compete head to head with the latest versions of OS's. Windows XP Revival FTW xD

Dx12 uses a lot of async. Thats Win10. Async is all about using all your cores, it's way better for taking most of the hardware

Jeffrey Photonboy win 7 user flying by...

A LOT of win7 users....

Astariol so you’re against it?

Cry

+foreign's gaming tech agreed

+foreign's gaming tech Yea like opengl roflol, remember he compared Vulkan to direct3d, seems DX12 is much more than Vulkan for Windows anyway. It will replace opengl no doubt.

+foreign's gaming tech Agreed mate....Vulkan FTW

+foreign's gaming tech Vulkan is the way. Beam me up scotty

Dunno much, but i think microsoft's push for their software supporting "universal apps" that run on windows on pc, xbox, windows phone AND hololens could become an important factor in the future.

Vulkan works on Windows too.

+Awesome! How well will it work with Nvidia GPU's though? It sounds like one of those, 'It works on Nvidia cards, but it is designed for AMD cards' kinda thing.

+Spencer Scott It will work fine on Nvidia cards. Nvidia is part of the contributors.

+Awesome! he knows, that was the point of his comment

+Awesome! perhaps you should change your handle to Obvious!

I think it is possible right now. I've been gaming on Linux for the past 18 months and things keep getting better all the time, more native games, more decent ports. Even running things on Wine is making big strides in performance.

In some cases, wine runs windows games better than windows does, too.

although i did have to turn the resolution from 1k down to 800p on low/medium settings on either ubuntu or debian, and since my gt 8800 isnt recieving much updates anymore im swapping the cpu and gpu to Q6700 and 750ti

it's getting better and better every day. i only buy games i can run easily on linux at this point, and i haven't been suffering at all.

Way more stable, significantly faster, less overhead, extremely secure in comparison, no shoving spyware in your face, or forcing you to do anything you wouldn't want to because it would fk you over. linux is better.

It makes only sense that many developers (like me) rather prefer Vulkan over DirectX, simply because we want games available for every platform possible. It would be very anti-consumer just to stick with DX.

Father of a god, so close enough.

+Grammy Grammy Gram Gram He was both a titan as well as the God of Harvest.

+john smith illuminati confirmed.

+john smith "confirmed" has an "m" in it. "m" is 3 pronged. RU-vid comments section confirmed.

+Laszlok All Star Trek names... planet names to be exact. :) And Star Trek had a Federation of Planets. Just saying.

+T Myte Vulkan is anti-closed platform and Microsoft is king of closed platform, so Vulkan kinda is anti-Microsoft by default. As would be any cross-platform API.

+Terry Lugviel : Only if you assume that MS should have their usual sick lock-in approach. Lock-in however is not necessary to anyone including MS, it's a crooked practice. So to correct you, Vulkan is anti lock-in, and it's a great thing.

Its like the kid who thinks he should have all the cookies. When the babysitter starts to share with other kids the mother comes up and says "Why are you taking cookies away from my son. Why do you hate my son" I know this isn't a perfect example but hopefully it gets my meaning across.

Exactly plus what would that say about the quality of the windows platform if what kills it is being able to use literally anything else for games.

Wich also means More problems because itl reach an open ecosystem That can affect many gamers or computers. Think of all the games and apps even the certified apps that provide malware and viruses without any warning or detection from the software or any antivirus software. The idea is great but it takes a significant effort to continue the qulaty of the software it's intended for. Let's see how the next few years go.

Nvidia doesn't really have anything locked down. They dominate the high end GPU market only because AMD has not managed to get their software straight. Same reason Intel dominates high end CPU.

Nicholas Shattuck So they didn't lock down physx, hairworks, gameworks, sli, sli on the 1060,

those are hard to say Nvidia "locked down" because they developed those with their own money and more specifically, to work on Nvidia GPU's. Again with their own money. It was an API that was created by Nvidia, for Nvidia.

lol stupid fanboy

Yup. By NVidia, for NVidia, not for gamers. If you look at the quality of the whole of gameworks, you'll realize that it's actively working AGAINST the consumer.

+kupertjerobin It will

+kupertjerobin I hope so. There are some really interesting distros I've tried out, but the one thing that keeps me from permanently installing them is that lack of game support.

strilight What games do you play? you could vga passtrough for full performance emulating or use wine for directx9

+kupertjerobin why even use linux

+kupertjerobin linux lol you must be poor

so rude

@@darkskullyt4604 ok

I don't know if this is unfortunate or not, but SPIR-V is no longer using the LLVM intermediate representation format. I don't fully know the implications of the new format, but from what Khronos claims it's still fully platform independent. I tend to believe them considering how many vendors are backing Vulkan. As far as LLVM is concerned, I love it. It's so close to GCC in terms of performance and capabilities, but with a much more modern and straight forward codebase. When I'm finished with my game, if there are no performance differences, I'm going to compile with CLANG and use that from now on.

SPIR is now its own intermediate representation (thus the IR at the end of the acronym -- SPIR-IR would be redundant). It has all the advantages of any IR just like LLVM-IR, but maintaining it separately makes perfect sense just as CPU's are usually designed separately from GPU's (although they sometimes get joined on chip as APU's, the design process doesn't change that much). Yes that may impact language support in the short term, but any LLVM-IR supported language with OpenGL calls should be easily translated to use SPIR in short order, with the benefit of better GPU native optimization and wider target support in the long term.

TakeyMcTaker I know this is unrelated to what you are talking about, but you mentioned that you are a PC/console developer. It seems to me, at least on PC, that most games are written using DirectX. Do you see any indication of the industry moving to Vulkan? I unfortunately have to run radeonsi drivers on Mesa, so I cannot experiment with Vulkan currently. With OpenGL, the shader source has to be released with the binary. When the application runs the shader is compiled by the driver. I maybe incorrect, but I assume that SPIR-V's intermediate representation will be a lot like LLVM-IR (resembling assembly.) Then the driver compiles that into usable machine code (for the GPU.) An application is distributed with the SPIR-V code and not the shader source. I'm hoping that moving the driver compilation from the higher level constructs to the lower level assembly-like instructions will force better adherence to the Vulkan specifications. Currently I am having issues with OpenGL being compiled differently on different drivers. It would be nice if Vulkan solved that problem.

+MaxterTheTurtle I used OpenGL exclusively, including on Windows. Unfortunately, there's nothing inherent to Vulkan that makes proprietary driver writers any better at their jobs. The bigger change on that side will be increasing open source driver support as more open source kernels (like StreamOS and Android) take more market share. Even Sony PlayStation and Apple kernels are all Open BSD derivatives, so that is much closer than you think.

Excuse me? I don't understand whatever the fancy terms you're talking about, but , can you both guys team up , and develop a great game? Haha 😅😅😊😊😊😊

Yes more freedom and less brand loyalty and fan boys!

it will also bring AMD back into solid competition with Nvidia. I hear the rx 480 is doing upwards of 30% better.

Fuck nvidia and microsoft for their shit.

Good luck getting programmes that work with Linx, also u really think this changes anything. People started going crazy 2 years ago about vulkan inc and in that time nothing has changed, unfortunately I think Microsoft is gonna rule. I also think this is just a chance for AMD fanboys to persuade people into buying AMD. *Cough* ↑

I care not for brand loyalty as much as I do for a competitive market that goes for GPUs and CPUS ,all other areas of computers are already competitive its just these two core components that are in danger of being monopolised and that not good for AMD or NVIDIA fanboys

The better the hardware, the better the games. So I like hardware because I like games.

Playstation Vita

I like spaces after punctuation.

as a fellow follower of the Church of Gaben with a powerful PC i do not agree with you... may you never receive a knife in cs go...

#platformEquality

+Kalenz Exactly, I have Windows 10 on my lap top for uni. I refuse to have it on my desktop computer that I have for gaming and everything other than uni.

+David Trollston Fuck off.

Windows 10 has the best gaming performance as compared to any previous windows version or even Linux or steam OS (without even considering directx 12). Check out any benchmarking video on RU-vid.

+hitomi luv3r Triggered?

+Kalenz all previous directX versions were exclusive to the "new windows" Microsoft has always been trying to force gamers to upgrade by making the latest dx only available in the latest OS.

Good to hear a Dev hard at work and making progress. I'm a dev too. Peace and Luv.

Woah vulkan is easy for you? What tutorial did you take? Ok maybe vulkan is hard because of the long names and the 1km long lists but maybe im just overrreacting lol. Already overwhelmed by OpenGL (though im getting there). Learning vulkan should be like transitioning from grade 6 to grade 7.

@@Kino-Imsureq I learned it mainly by just reading through the official spec. Its actually well written and makes sense (unlike the usual legal-ese illegible nonsense of the OpenGL spec). Its dense, and you need to know the basics, but otherwise is the best source. Initially there is a lot of 'boilerplate' code to write to get things up and running. But its not hard, just a bit tedious. The nice thing is though you don't have to worry about what the driver will or will not do. You've told it explicitly at every step of the way exactly what you want. What comes out of the other end is extremely predictable, which is exactly what you want. I would not start at OpenGL and move to Vulkan, in fact I wouldn't with OpenGL on my worst enemy. Just jump into Vulkan. If you want to make a custom game engine (which is the whole reason to use any of these, if all you want to do is make a simple game use Unity or Unreal), you're going to have to learn about command buffers/lists, viewports, transformations, rendering pipeline, etc... Best thing is not to learn bad habits and just jump in the deep end, you'll be a lot happier in the long run.

@@CrimsonTide001 And why wouldn't you wish OpenGl on your worst enemy

@@nishanth6403 I don't think there's been a worse API ever written.

+Jose Brito Not to mention physX usually tanks frame rates with games. At least in my experience as a gtx780 owner.

+Ironically Ironic Ironic Memes AMD, because I am poor.

+Ironically Ironic Ironic Memes I already have a R9 280. So no.. plus, it runs really well. Can play all my games on high settings @ 1080P.

Ironically Ironic Ironic Memes a r9 380 is about the same price and tends to perform better (in game) also AMD has cheaper adaptive sync technology

Phsysx has become open source.

Linux... Really?

+Ben O'Sullivan Yes of course. Linux is in nearly everything. Android, Servers and Steam OS are notable examples. Linux is getting more and more popular on desktops, let alone tablets.

+chiffmonkey Na, Linux is pretty much complete crap when it comes to gaming.

+chiffmonkey Linux isn't bad. It's bad for gaming, but it's not bad.

+Mic Mich is Linux for programming

+Stu Bur I'm still on win7 and I have no intention of moving to 10 no matter what contrived carrots are dangled in front of me.

PhazonSouffle I am doing the same.

+PhazonSouffle I'm doing the same, though I will move to Windows 10 when I build my next PC within the next year or so. Upgrading and fresh installing for Windows 10 are completely different beasts. While I don't like certain things with 10, there are some things that you would have thought would just be part of Windows in 7 that aren't. I would suggest that if you're going to build a new PC, put 10 on it, since it will last longer, unlike Windows 8/8.1 and Vista before it.

***** I am planning to switch to Linux for my next build and keep some Win 7 systems lying around for when I need them.

+Stu Bur Couldn't you say the same about OpenGL.. it's always mostly been great on backwards compatibility. I'm not sure there was a real need for Vulkan because in many ways OpenGl has always been better then DirectX and OpenGL is still being developed.. why the branch I wonder? I know tons of folks still using Windows XP and rightly so because it doesn't have the huge illegal spyware scheme built in to it like Windows 10 does. It's sad that we live in an age where the companies use the products we love to illegally spy on us and the government is in bed with these corrupt companies which is corrupt itself. . I stopped buying Microsoft products. No justice for the citizens. That's why Vulkan and good cross platform technologies need to happen, so we can all get away from proprietary making money grubbing snakes in the grass like Microsoft and use all open source software for our protection. As a gamer, I say we need more open source games. It's a crime for a game to cost 60 bucks when you only get 20 bucks worth of play out of many of them. I don't care about anyone making money. This world shouldn't be based on money. it's time for us to change that IMO.

Reading that makes me think that you think that Vulkan is an OS, Vulkan supports Windows and other platforms

+TheMaxiViper117 Vulkan runs on linux and mac, why would he need windows to run it?

+NetherPrime because Linux and Mac have abysmal game support

TheMaxiViper117 And why do you think that is -.-

+NetherPrime He's saying that because Rem NL seems to think that Windows doesn't support Vulkan, which is wrong. He means that it Vulkan won't take over other platforms and leave Windows behind, because Windows has support for it.

Holy crap, I can't un-hear his voice as that now.

+timone1002 I disagree

Yup makes me wanna kill my self it's so sad and pointless

+Major Kushanagi Excatly....!!! do not let this happens to PC Gaming!!! Do not Let that Dirty Business Wash out your Mind.... ----------------------------------- first of all vulkan never head-to-head against Microsoft not even close in PC Gaming. In Vulken Mobile Gaming Demo Video (Eye Candy) There are only Some object/Geometry (Countable) which is Nothing in front of real Full Game so it's not that much powerful that you think it is. if you want to see real processing power then go and watch DirectX 12 Demo video you'll realize that which is more powerful. >what happens if Vulkan made into PC market? - What i think is Vulkan Devs are more of a Linux Lovers thats why thay got support from google (Moto : Be Evil, We want your data). To get in market Vulken get Partners with some Studio to make an eye candy game Exclusively made with use of Vulken API so they got some community (Steam is also with them). and then thay gonna Release Same game for Linux but with Better Graphics (monopoly) and then People like "Gameranx" and others Compare it with windows Version in final verdict they Choose Linux as Best for Graphics. > there is must be an Exclusive Platform.... - Now People seen the Game with Tweaked Graphics they gonna believe that Vulcan is Better then DX12 and The Next Exclusive Games from Vulken will be Exclusive to Linux Platform too and Also be an Eye Candy. now Vulken is Doing Dirty Business and Microsoft Not gonna Sit back and see all the drama thay also do something to Save the Platform and Developers so they Might Bring Halo and other Exclusively to PC and Give a Glimpse of Next DX Universal and Make it Open source. > And the War Begins... -In answer to Vulken...MS also step up to Partnership with Studio and Bring Some Exclusive to Windows Platform with DX Universal Exclusive Games and then Vulken Does the same and Chain Reaction goes on and on.....Do you Realize that Same Thing Happening With Consoles. All Console Market Divided in to Exclusives. and in the End Gamers Gonna Pay so Don't Let that Happen to The PC Gaming and Gamers. Choose Windows and DirectX as best for Gamers. >DirectX is Better... - Because Windows and DX Both are Microsoft Products and DX Comes Embedded in to windows so you Do not need 3rd party API to Make games and also Vulken API is Kind of Layer in top of Windows OS so it's Requires it's own Library and Compilers that Require More Processing Power and Data Transfer at the other side Like i said before DX comes Embedded into Windows so it has all the Windows Secrets to make Most Use of an Hardware and Software. >Finally... -Don't you think if Steam Machines Comes with Windows insted of Linux they gonna be a Success and google is also interested in Vulken so Now or Letter they gonna Introduce Google Play service for Gaming and Put Fucking Ads in Games So Please Folks Stick with One Good Eco-System. Don't let Some Business People Divide The Gaming and Gamers.

+Major Kushanagi technically, DirectX and OpenGL have been competing for some time, but DX got so popular, that there wasn't any real competition, up until now.

***** the awareness is rising thats the difference, but i totally agree

+Major Kushanagi War, War never Changes. Also its older than you may think. First there was 3Dfx, then nVidia came and contested the market. the Voodoo/Voodoo 2 (3Dfx) had already SLI Capabilities which the Riva and later GeForce (nVidia) lacked but it was cheaper. But Management screwed up and nVidia won. Then ATi came and delivered a more cheaper version of advanced graphics but at a higher power consumption, so this was the second graphics war, that is kinda still raging on.

OpenGL was always cross platform that was how its conception came to be. The Khronos Group didn't want Developers to have to read up and study the specifics of each architecture platform they wanted to distribute to so they created the OpenGL specification which big names such as Intel and AMD supported.

+ei989 the hype for that kinda died, no one is counting on it anymore

***** lol, I will freaking disown Valve if they even consider that

+ei989 In VR!

+theweapi SteamOS/Linux & Mac OS X first then after 1 year windows user get it.

+theweapi To Lower Windows Market Share, pretty much it.

Validifyed Windows XP

Validifyed I'm only joking don't worry. I'll take your advice and think about it though!

me too. Maxwell does not perform well on dx12

+Validifyed I'm better with 8.1 never had as much headache in 8.1 as I had with 7.

+ThatMustacheGuy i am win 7 gamer, but win 7 doesnt support new components wicb are coming out this year, so i wait 2 years and i have to uprgade my pc. I am going to get linux because games are coming more and more to linux because cross-platform. And because of fhat. Linux is going to get pc gaming. Only thing about linux is right now it doesnt have enough games. So my advice is: wait few years, after that get linux.

+Night Owl Exactly. MS doesn't do these things for good practical technical reasons. They just make games and versions of DirectX proprietary to get people to use their new shit. They did it when they bought Halo (Halo was originally gonna be PC and Mac) to get people interested in xbox. They did it with DirectX 10 and Vista/7. It's what they do. They don't care because they don't have to.

totally agree with you win 10 and 8 cant even come close to win7

+Night Owl I take it you said the same with DX10 and Vista? ;P

Erlisch1337 man u know urself deep within ur heart that windows 7 is da bomb 8 and 10 are made for touch screen tablets and touch screen laptops

Falcon??

Live long and vape \//\

+Xenos so you are the reason I couldn't take xenos as my username!

nope... it wasn't me...

+Avi C Gamewanx.

+Avi C Im gonna say it, better than Linutechtips xD

+Muhammad Roychan Meliaz But it will fail, just like AMD XD. Idk, I just want to see which one's gonna be better for gaming. I support gaming not brands so it doesn't matter to me if Intel and AMD and many more support Vulkan. If it's better than DX12 i will support it too.

+Armand Bas So you're implying there's higher possibility for everyone switching to W10? If Steam doesn't follow it, neither does PC games.

Hikikamari Dude shut up. I just said now. I will support the thing that makes the gaming experience even greater. Whether it's Vulkan or DX12. I'm not implying anything.

+Armand Bas lol I love how you stop a potential flame war. xD Anyway I really doubt Vulkan will fail. I saw a demo called "Protostar" running in Galaxy S7, it looks gorgeous! Since it uses same API between desktops and mobiles it's not impossible to have desktop graphics on mobile phones.

Muhammad Roychan Meliaz IDK dude, we'll see.

I'm so happy, cause I was sad to hear the 1060 is better than the rx480. But now, with Doom, the rx 480 is doing much better.

why be sad its just a graphics card.

Linux can be as good as it wants to be but as long as it doesn't have the software that people need - it won't be popular. For example, moving to Linux would ruin me financially because I wouldn't be able to use my professional software and the alternatives do not exist. End of story.

ExtraPIXELFLUX Exactly, something like this could help a bit and incentives more developers to follow. And once that happens there's a bigger demand for new and suitable distros. Obviously, this doesn't happen over night, and I do have a very hopeful attitude. I'm so tired hearing about Microsoft's anti consumer bullshit and attempts to monopolize software distribution in Windows.

Linux already is user friendly... Any noob can use Ubuntu.

Yes, maybe today, and it is not a problem with native games, just over Wine, maybe. I have Steam, and bunch of games tryed, all of them works perfectly on Linux, like it should be, no problems there. And i have sayed "future of gaming", and i mean, the future, because, more and more games come natively to linux. And Native games works just perfect, with one click. More and more people use Linux, and in near future, the gaming company should realise, that, if they want to sell more on the market, should create native games for linux to. My vision here is, that, in couple of years, Linux would be on any house, on any PC (now is to, in any andoid phone, autos, ....) It just need a litle bit more time. The curve of Linux going up, and Windows going down has began. Trust me. For all this, you have google, youtube, ... And you will realise the situation.

.. and for example, just what i mean, here one big game, that has comming to Linux... and there are many, many more, and would even more. This is Native, no Wine there: www.feralinteractive.com/en/linux-games/f12015/home/ It was released on 26.05.2016. Ok, it is just one example (and you can lok at Requirements there to), but, you can search yourself, and see, there are every day more and more native games for Linux. here some more Linux games: www.feralinteractive.com/en/linux-games/ Hope, you change your mind about Linux... hehe

George Getejanc if windows is going down how come anybody who owns a pc that i came across used windows as their os? you linus people are so hypster living in a bubble thinking that Linus will one day dominate PC. Go talk to any non gamers out there. what do they use? mostly a mac or a windows pc.

epicwolf thing about windows is it has Microsoft Monopoly. It'd be lot better if the whole gaming community moves to Linux.

Of course it will, Nvidia is even supporting them.

+Martin Angelov Vulcan will work on Nvidia cards and AMD cards, however, there will be minor discrepancies on either end thanks to physical limitations such as manufacturing processes and/or architecture type which literally means minor frame rate differences between the Nvidia and AMD.

CharlieSuper Pretty sure the same will go for DX12.

+Martin Angelov It will work on both. The question is really how well. That is mostly down to either devs patching specifically for a manufacturer or architecture, or nvidia/amd releasing drivers to improve individual game performance. History tells us that nVidia is massively more reliable when it comes to frequent driver updates. If AMD steps up its game, they should be fine at achieving comparable FPS/dollar depending on how the next gen of card releases go.

Either way using Vulcan is a win-win scenario

+DED DOA I thought the same too, healthy competition is always good for improvements and ultimately for the users.

DXVK and vkd3d now let ya do that, it runs DirectX 8-11 and 12 respectively on top of Vulkan.

+talas attila Ya, as long as the application supports APIs other than DX12, and your graphics card supports the API used, then you can game away (:

What AMD/Khronos group AND Star Trek pulled it from is old Greek mythology. Kronos without an "h"( or Cronus ) was the god of the Titans. While Vulcan with a c not a k, was the god of fire and metelwork/the forge.

+Nathaniel Rojo Unfortunately, it is.

+Nathaniel Rojo metal sucks i have ios and the graphics are shit than android

+TheScrewCrew MrOrgasmo Really? What games did you compare?

+parazels83 mc5,nova and asphalt

iPhones were actually voted the best mobile phone gaming platform.

+Arstellum Well version 1.1 is out ,email people who have worked with it

From benchmarks we can tell it performs a little better than directx 12.

+Arstellum Well, it's supposed to based off of Mantle. Both DX12 and Vulkan will probably be much harder to develop for than OpenGL, which means developers could either dramatically improve the performance of their games, or shoot themselves in the foot.

Vulkan demo is out. check out protostar unreal engine demo.

Most Businesses won't touch Windows 8 or 10 because they are consumer products, they add no value to work that is primarily done on spreadsheets like Excel. It is big news for gaming, and businesses have absolutely nothing to do with that. A personal computer and a business computer are 2 very different products with 2 very different customers. As a gamer I would appreciate having the choice of a SteamOS that actually benefits me, as would a lot of gamers.

Dx12 uses a lot of async. Thats Win10. Async is all about using all your cores, it's way better for taking most of the hardware

Average result so far by most lab tests is 0-10% improvement. Far less than most people were expecting I think. Personally, I am really disappointed and not enough to compensate for the huge limitations. For example. If you use Nvidia GPU's right now (as I do with multi Titan X's in my primary setup). One is very much aware that Nvidia just lost, big time. They gambled the farm on retaining a proprietary technology, the industry at large kicked back and they lost. Now they have no GPU that can take advantage of the benefits of the alleged DX12. It gets worse in the real world. No one bothered to consider Multi GPU under DX12. Those that did test it in a lab environment are seeing terrible returns and I dont know a game that uses it yet. So this means, games like Ark have a real problem. They invested a lot of capital in DX12 winning the battle. Delivering performance gains and being the standard. They lost. I have an ark server and most of my users are so sick of the performance they dont bother to log in. From enthusiasts like me that just buy the latest stuff to others that sensibly, use the upgrade route of staying a generation behind, but behind a second card to run new games at greatr frame rates when a new gen is released. This is not helped by poor game engines like Unreal Engine 4 which looks great but needs a lot of horsepower. Poorly optimised, prone to memorys leaks and issues it doesnt support SLI let alone multi gpu. What about BF4? For many it runs worse in DX12 mode and can be glitchy. Try as I might I see no visible difference in quality but worse, I Can only use 1 GPU in DX12 mode where I Can run it properly across all gpu's in DX12 mode. Not to mention many people these days work from home. Many home users working for corporates are banned from installing windows 10 because of the security and client privacy issues it brings with it. I recently had all but 1 standalone pc rolled back to windows 7 myself and I honestly had a better time of it since.

+Mike Nunyabizness Hey, we exist. We just are wanting to all kill ourselves. I'm building my PC right now and so excited. We exist, but we don't want to exist. Send a gaming PC to an oppressed mac user today.

Mac gamers... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You are just joking right?

Heide Knight I wouldn't say no to a free computer lol.

HiiighAsAKite mac gamers xD thats funny... almost as funny as "hardcore mobile gamers" xD

+Juan Diego Unfortunately, it's incredibly time consuming to subtitle videos, especially at the rate Gameranx and Falcon produce videos. To do transcription well you need special equipment (not costly, but takes getting used to) and a solid block of time. Rough rates from poking around the internet is in the realm of $10-$15/minute of video. That time and money is what they're spending creating the graphics and doing the research for the next video they want to put out. It's very difficult to subtitle all but the most simple of things.

+Juan Diego Can't you just hit the CC button on the video?

You know how badly AutoCorrect changes your stuff on your phone? Imagine that 10 fold. You end up with REALLY weird stuff.

+Juan Diego click the auto subtitle button.... job done its the one of a white screen with Morse code on it (dots and dashes in case you dont know what morse code is ) no need to subtitle any video .....

Google automatic translate is shit.

+Hi People The main thing keeping me from using Linux is that games don't generally get ported to it and I don't want the hassle of emulation and performance issues. If mainstream games become easy to port to Linux and run natively without need for an emulator. Bye bye M$!

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+Aaron Boomhower microsoft are trying to get everyone on windows spyware so of course it'd be only for windows 10, kinda annoys me that they try to pull this shit off.

+SouthCamp :( I hate Windows 10

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+Aaron Boomhower OMFG he said that like 121839138274828472 times in the video...piss off