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What Protestants Get WRONG About Mary w/ Gabi Castillo 

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Gabi Castillo gives a great breakdown of why Mary matters for our protestant brethren.
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@JW-sg7tt
@JW-sg7tt 23 дня назад
Mary is an insult to Satan. How humiliating would it be to have a little woman like her just absolutely crush you! We love you, our heavenly mother!
@JW-sg7tt
@JW-sg7tt 21 день назад
@@sonsofpolaris6102 absolutely!
@meganhermosillo6689
@meganhermosillo6689 19 дней назад
And take his place in heaven 🎯
@Muslims_were_allies_Hitler
@Muslims_were_allies_Hitler 12 дней назад
How? Since it is Jesus Christ that does this in the Bible for a 1000 years? Does Mary comeback with Jesus Christ?
@SmithsnMoz
@SmithsnMoz 23 дня назад
When ever i listen to a PROTESTANT say they Pray the HOLY ROSARY.... It makes me smile and say to myself... "Future CATHOLIC CONVERT"
@kath976
@kath976 22 дня назад
Exactly
@ReactionaryPapist
@ReactionaryPapist 23 дня назад
Satan hates The Most Blessed Virgin Mary!
@LorenzoGMP
@LorenzoGMP 23 дня назад
Oh, that is for sure. He knows that when Mary intervenes he is doomed.
@zendude123
@zendude123 23 дня назад
Same with a lot of protestants. Makes you wonder…
@andreaandrea1884
@andreaandrea1884 23 дня назад
Amen!
@liesdiebibelbruder420
@liesdiebibelbruder420 22 дня назад
Yea but he also uses her so People Worship Creation instead of the Creator.
@Muslims_were_allies_Hitler
@Muslims_were_allies_Hitler 12 дней назад
@@LorenzoGMP how is Mary going to do that?
@RebeccaLoiacono
@RebeccaLoiacono 23 дня назад
Being a member of God’s family is an honor. To be like God is to be his sons and daughters. He is so very good.
@LauraMonge1974
@LauraMonge1974 16 дней назад
Thank you, Gabi, well said!
@CarpDiemBaby
@CarpDiemBaby 23 дня назад
I love our Blessed Mother
@tokenblkguy00
@tokenblkguy00 21 день назад
Such a misrepresentation of many Protestants. I don’t worship Mary or pray to her as an intercessor or otherwise. But to say I hate Mary and don’t understand Christianity is an emotional and defensive position.
@jacobD63
@jacobD63 11 дней назад
Protestant here, I was thinking the same thing. I agree that Gabi definitely comes off emotionally charged and makes some pretty outlandish clames about Protestants misunderstanding of Christianity as a whole. Perhaps he’s directing his emotions towards the Protestants who are more anti-Catholic and don’t fully understand the teachings of the Catholic Church in regard to the Virgin Mary. I also do not pray to her for intercession or otherwise. I believe she is very special and significant as the mother of Jesus. However,I don’t share the opinion of the Catholic Church on some of the Marian dogmas which prevents me from converting. There were a few moments in this interview where Gabi got really worked up and emotionally charged that rubbed me the wrong way. He seems like a nice guy, but I was a little uncomfortable at certain moments, seems like a switch flipped at those parts. Even seems like Matt was a little caught off guard and looking and was expecting a less aggressive response. We are supposed to speak the truth in Love, and I feel like Gabi wasn’t doing that in certain parts of the interview. Yes we are all human and all make mistakes though, so….. Anyway, Jesus had times where he spoke very intensely to the Pharisees and got heated. Righteous anger is a thing, but that’s also Jesus, so maybe for the average person it’s safer to take a more humble and gentle approach when trying to share with other Christians about Catholic beliefs. I’m not saying we can never be blunt or that we must sugar coat things all the time. Certain settings are more appropriate for bluntness then others. When discussing social issues like sex reassignment surgery for minors, is definitely an appropriate time to be very straight forward and honest about how immoral that is and how any follower of Christ can not condone or support that in anyway.
@orangemanbad
@orangemanbad 23 дня назад
Raised a Protestant, I was creeped out by the “Mary stuff” by the church. In the end Mary helped bring me to understand the Christian faith. Protestants don’t understand theosis.
@rangefinderz5135
@rangefinderz5135 23 дня назад
Correct
@charlesmuhmanson3928
@charlesmuhmanson3928 23 дня назад
I understand theosis, I just don't find the level if Mary veneration in the Bible.
@rangefinderz5135
@rangefinderz5135 23 дня назад
@@charlesmuhmanson3928 sola scriptura is a lie
@robertajaycart3491
@robertajaycart3491 23 дня назад
​@charlesmuhmanson3928 The belief that everything has to be found in the Bible is a Protestant idea, that view wasn't taught for 1500 years.
@taecc3
@taecc3 23 дня назад
Go back to Revelation 12. St. John the apostle/evangelist had a vision of Mary in Heaven. "The Woman" who else could it be but Mary alone.
@gburns9222
@gburns9222 16 дней назад
Yeah nothing wrong with loving, respecting, and praying to Mary. Some liturgy gets so merky where you're like, "are we still taking about Mary or Jesus?"
@peterhenryzepeda3484
@peterhenryzepeda3484 23 дня назад
Theosis, the idea that God wants to be in union with us, not only explains why God descended to Earth, but also why he was conceived through Mary.I understood the connection of Mariology with Christiology, but never saw the Marian dogmas as clearly as I do since seeing this.
@misterbean5010
@misterbean5010 23 дня назад
Great interview 👍
@cehson
@cehson 23 дня назад
This is such wonderfull teaching. You cant love Mother Mary enough for what she is for us. Loving Her leads you to Christ, She cannot do something other than lead you to Him. She is saffest way to our Lord, i cant make "my direct" path to Him better or shorter than through Her intersetion. Mother Most Pure pray for us!
@kstu8019
@kstu8019 4 дня назад
This is my favorite video. I’ve been struggling to understand the confusion between my husband and I (we are Catholic/Protestant) when I heard this talk, and it was like a bell went off in my head. We have different understandings of Christ’s mission. 🤯 thank you
@generatednoise3464
@generatednoise3464 23 дня назад
They say this as if it's supposed to be convincing to protestants... As one I'm personally finding it harder and harder to follow this channel the more I hear them defend their Catholic dogmas, or just attack Protestants in general. To be honest, I'm always a bit nervous that I'll be hit with a zinger and be convinced to convert, but once I hear the argument I'm always SO disappointed that there's just nothing of substance. We're supposed to pray to Mary because being "Christlike" apparently means literally being Christ, and literally loving his mother like she's our mother. That's a pretty ridiculous stretch in my opinion. If I wanted to be like my boss at work because he's a good man and I want to follow in his footsteps, I wouldn't call his mom every night. Not to mention I'm still not sold on the idea that any deceased human person is in heaven receiving prayers. This and that one girl recently who said Christianity is only Catholic in Israel so it "feels" more true (sorry Martin Luther didn't try to conquer the Holy Land I guess??), and "there's no intellect in protestant churches", has all really pushed me away from Catholicism more than I think you guys realize. The Catholics I meet in real life are intelligent and agreeable, but I guess I was wrong to expect the same from online figures.
@wealthybones1280
@wealthybones1280 23 дня назад
Very well said. Its so strange how Catholics interpret scripture. Maybe they are right? Im no bible scholar.
@rouxmain934
@rouxmain934 23 дня назад
​@@wealthybones1280on one side your sentiment can be due to the fact you're not used to hearing this interpretation of the text. I personally am lucky I came into Christianity without a strong bias towards any side. One great thing I did that I highly suggest to everyone is to read scripture and compare interpretations of it and try to strongman the position of different traditions. You might not like hearing this but this method above made convinced me Catholicism was the only truth. It was hard, but if I say I trust God completely then that should mean this situation included.
@rouxmain934
@rouxmain934 23 дня назад
1: yeah, Catholics online, mostly on Twitter, can be stupid. Really stupid. 2: If you ever saw how we Catholics are treated by Protestants online, on Twitter, even by pastors like MacArthur, Gavin Ortlund, James White, or Vlad Savchuk, then you would understand the verbal, mental, and spiritual abuse we can receive on a daily basis. No wonder we occasionally say harsh words towards those people. Nice Protestants, sorry but too many of your brethren behave like demons towards us. And I fully mean it when I say "demons".
@wealthybones1280
@wealthybones1280 22 дня назад
@rouxmain934 I have done that, and it just seems like Catholics really stretch the text to fit their theology. A lot of the time, im left bewildered by their interpretations of scripture.
@generatednoise3464
@generatednoise3464 22 дня назад
@@wealthybones1280 I feel the same way, and they've set it up so that they can never be wrong. If they are criticized for seemingly pulling things out of thin air not supported by scripture, they respond by criticizing sola scriptura, and they are quick to remind that there is more than just scripture. Yet as soon as it is useful to them, they will act as though Protestants must prove even the most ridiculous claims through scripture. The worst one I've heard is "there is no scriptural text outright stating that Jesus' siblings weren't half siblings, therefore protestants are wrong to assume they are Mary and Joseph's children." The more I look into it, the more I feel I'm wasting my time.
@ryanroehrig54
@ryanroehrig54 22 дня назад
Insulting protestants as though we “do not understand Christianity.” Is not the way to go. We might explain to you how you do that understand what worship “is” because when your heart and trust depend on the mother of Christ it is by definition worship. This video is insulting and ignores the obvious issues with the veneration of Mary that the Reformers have expressed for 500 years.
@atgred
@atgred 22 дня назад
What did the reformers express about Mary? Luther: 1) Mary has no equal among creation. ... 2) Mary was without sin. ... 3) Mary was a perpetual virgin. ... 4) On the veneration of Mary. ... 5) Mary is the mother of all Christians. ... 6) You can never honor Mary enough. Calvin: To this day we cannot enjoy the blessing brought to us in Christ without thinking at the same time of that which God gave as adornment and honour to Mary, in willing her to be the mother of his only-begotten Son". Ulrich Zwingli: "I esteem immensely the Mother of God, the ever chaste, immaculate Virgin Mary." "Christ ... was born of a most undefiled Virgin." "It was fitting that such a holy Son should have a holy Mother."
@drjanitor3747
@drjanitor3747 15 дней назад
If Protestants understood Christianity they wouldn’t be Protestant.
@lydiabanes2255
@lydiabanes2255 21 день назад
I love out blessed Mother. I belong to her.
@mariamartins5796
@mariamartins5796 23 дня назад
I agree totally, one thing that I would like to say is about our Eucharist. Its the passage from earth to heaven. And i also believe a passage from the old creation to the new, as God came to create again like says in Isaiah. Behold I will come to make new heavens and new earth. Its a great pitty we catholics don't realise this ,or if we do we don't speak about it. And i do love our blessed mother. This man is right, we don't have nothing to apologise for. Was Her ROSARY that helped me understand Christianity.
@lanesmith1465
@lanesmith1465 23 дня назад
I'm a Protestant and I have no issue with Mary. She is our spiritual mother, she should be loved as our own mother, and should be held rightly held in a special place of honor. However. I think its reasonable to say that acknowleding that she is ascended to Heaven, is immaculate, is co-mediator and co-redeemer with Christ is an entierly other bridge to cross.
@jacksonpope3955
@jacksonpope3955 23 дня назад
I dont think Catholics believe she is a co-redeemer.
@StanleyPinchak
@StanleyPinchak 23 дня назад
She did not ascend as Jesus did on His own power, she was assumed by the grace and power of God. If God would prevent the decay of Enoch 7th from Adam who walked with God and Elias the prophet who was zealous for the Lord (and perhaps Moses see Jude 9), does it not seem fitting that he would preserve his mother, the Woman of Genesis 3:15 from corruption? I am certain that our blessed mother is working in your life already as you have a great respect for her. May her prayers bring spiritual blessings on all of us who call her son our Great God and Savior.
@Nnlly
@Nnlly 23 дня назад
Fireee 🔥🔥🔥
@meganhermosillo6689
@meganhermosillo6689 19 дней назад
Matt - EWTN's Fr. Patrick Mary just finished his Thesis on St. maximillian Kolbe's writings on the Blessed Virgin Mary. He has SO many things to say about this topic. He would be an amazing guest to have on.
@_Pia12
@_Pia12 22 дня назад
Great interview ❤
@Cklert
@Cklert 16 дней назад
Everything we know about Mary, comes from Jesus. And the more we know about Mary, the more she leads us back to Jesus.
@CatholicPipeCompany
@CatholicPipeCompany 21 день назад
I love his fervor. I love this clip!
@drivertadyuma
@drivertadyuma 16 дней назад
I really believe that the Virgin Mary was one the greatest woman to exist. However, in relation to John 19:26-27, in the Jewish society a woman would be ostracized if she wasn't taken care by a man and because our Lord was the only son, and Mary was a widow, that's why Jesus asked John to take care of her. Furthermore in John 2:1 as you said, John says "The mother of Jesus". Clearly John had been living with the Virgin Mary before writing the Gospel, and he doesnt say "Our mother, the mother of christians catholics" he says "The mother of Jesus". Jesus never calls Mary "Mom or Mother" and not only calls "woman" to Mary (if you think that that proofs your point of Genesis 3:15), but also to other women whom He interacted such as the samaritan woman and Mary Magdalene. Furthermore, in Luke 11:27-28 He clearly says "While he was saying this, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to him, “Blessed is the womb that bore you and the breasts that nursed you!”. But he said, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it!”. He states that hearing the Word of God and obey it is above being the womb that bore Him. Something similar happens in Matthew 12: 49-50 "And pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother”. Regarding Revelation 12:1 "A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head." The twelve stars, are the twelve apostles/tribes of Israel which represents the Church, not the Virgin Mary. And if you want make a point of what comes after "that she gave birth to a male who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter", it's is metaphoric and can be also the Church, which could be giving "birth" to Christ when spreading the Gospel to all nations. John is writing this way after Jesus birth, and taking this literally it's not possible and also against the basis of christianity, because He was already born and had already died in the Cross. It's so sad, that the "devotion" to the Virgin Mary has gotten worst throughout the history of the Church and even now, it's preventing very good christians to come back to the Catholic Church and have the Eucharist that endures for eternal life (John 6:27). I truly believe, than even the Virgin Mary would never agree nor even ask others to pray to her. Which is worst, I think she would never request others to pray way many more prayers (almost 10:1) directed to her than to the Father, which happens in the rosary, because she definitively was one of the humblest women on earth as Luke 1:48 says.
@kiotee_nouw
@kiotee_nouw 23 дня назад
If there's one Pints With Aquinas video Catholics, Christians should listen to over and over again until they understand what is said, this is the video.
@blackforestgiant648
@blackforestgiant648 23 дня назад
Wasn't really convincing and only confirmed my Protestant view, but that's only my opinion.
@nocontent4908
@nocontent4908 23 дня назад
Christianity is not about how to get to heaven. That is middle platonism. “Heaven is great, but it’s not the end of the world.” Our scripture teaches something far more attractive and robust. Consider reading NT Wright and rethinking how the ancient Israelites and NT authors really wrote about Christianity. New creation is at the heart of it.
13 дней назад
You quote Augustine and then say you don't know if it's accurate but it's true. 😂 Great scholarship.
@jrt99b
@jrt99b 23 дня назад
The focus on Mary gives me the heebiest of heebie-jeebies. It’s not “the” reason I’m not a Catholic but it would probably be in my top 5.
@mariamartins5796
@mariamartins5796 23 дня назад
Satan also gets the heebie jeebis when he hears about Mary. A woman will crash the head of the serpent. Jesus Christ called His mother woman for a reason.
@DavidRodriguez-cm2qg
@DavidRodriguez-cm2qg 23 дня назад
From now on, all generations shall call me blessed. Holy Spirit said that about Mary through Mary. Mary was in an ecstasy. You can never love Mary enough.
@bobthebuildest6828
@bobthebuildest6828 23 дня назад
on the topic that Christinity is about theosis with heaven being a consequence of that rather than the goal. a very important implication of the incarnation meriting the salvation of all from its first moment is that the rest of Christs life is about drawing us to Him and showing us how to live a holy life most critically this changes the passion, it isnt about Christ taking the infinite wrath of God for sin, but about teaching us to be obedient to the father and modeling how we are to follow Him
@rouxmain934
@rouxmain934 23 дня назад
This is quite interesting, but we can also say Heaven is the aim and theosis is the standard process by which we go there (except exceptions like last second repentance like the thief on the cross)
@justinrehm268
@justinrehm268 22 дня назад
Eesh. Pretty arrogant. And Freudian slip there in the beginning was telling. Jesus did not come to “make man like God”. He most certainly came as “the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world”. Christ came as the greater Adam, to win a people for himself out of the nations and to reconcile man with God. Christ in the Father, the Father in the Son, and we in Christ. If this divine “in one-anotherness” is what is being gestured at with this animated talk of “making man like God” then ok - though if that is what’s meant it is not being very precisely articulated. Solus Christus, Soli Deo Gloria.
@gregmitchell4475
@gregmitchell4475 16 дней назад
Love Mary mother of God! A little uncomfortable with the phrase "you will be like God (or Christ). Think I get what you mean, but all the villains in the world act as though "they be like God". Imitate Christ, but you'll never be Christ.
@ryanroehrig54
@ryanroehrig54 22 дня назад
This is not a Catholic approach. It is Orthodox.
@fabiotuan5206
@fabiotuan5206 23 дня назад
Only Jesus is sinless! For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God!
@rouxmain934
@rouxmain934 22 дня назад
Except you can't make this argument out of the Bible. You're making an argument out of silence at best, and at worst taking your interpretation of "all have sinned" verse as infallible. Does "all have sinned" include Christ? Or the angels? Or God the Father? Or the angels? No. Thus "all have sinned" includes some exceptions, such as Christ, but you are not the infallible arbiter of the exceptions.
@josephnicholas9812
@josephnicholas9812 23 дня назад
Bravo Gabi!
@tonygville2969
@tonygville2969 22 дня назад
It's a Family Thing and so many people are missing out on those Family Member Graces. If someone would trash talk my Dear Mom, there would be fist to cuffs and I don't believe that Our Lord Jesus would take kindly to anyone speaking trash about His Queen Mother Mary. If you claim Jesus Christ has your King, you better be ready to accept His Mother as Queen Mother, because factually She is. Look at the Early Church Father's and you will find this to be true. This is why the Family is under such a huge attack. The enemy knows it's about The Holy Family, and Our Mother Mary wears Compat Boots and She's going to Crush the snakes head. Viva Cristo Rey
@josephology3290
@josephology3290 23 дня назад
Or Joseph! Protodulia man!
@TheBlinkyImp
@TheBlinkyImp 23 дня назад
Nobody has a 'problem with Mary'. We have a problem with demonstrably false teachings about Mary, and with the Catholic obsession with worshipping-but-not-technically-worshipping her. If you pray the rosary then you spend more time praying to Mary than to God. That's nuts. Sorry Catholics if I 'hit you with a 2x4'.
@rangefinderz5135
@rangefinderz5135 23 дня назад
Nothing you said was correct🙂
@luke9747
@luke9747 23 дня назад
I love Mary the Mother of God, and my own Mother. Do you?
@illadvized7623
@illadvized7623 23 дня назад
Everything you said is correct😅
@rangefinderz5135
@rangefinderz5135 23 дня назад
@@illadvized7623 if you start a conversation with a strawman lie, then there is no point in debating you🙂
@TheBlinkyImp
@TheBlinkyImp 23 дня назад
@@luke9747 Sure. Jesus teaches us to love all people. How do you make the leap from that to praying to Mary? Building shrines to her? Bowing and kissing pictures of her? Jesus loved the apostle John. How often do you pray to him as a co-redeemer?
@wealthybones1280
@wealthybones1280 23 дня назад
I know Catholics dont worship Mary, but they are OBSESSED with her. I believe it comes from the influence of medieval chivalry. They view themselves as knights going off to battle and Mary as the beautiful, feminine, and pure maiden. Its much more appealing than being a servant to God. This is also why I think they claim Mary remained a virgin her whole life, and why they never mention Joseph.
@robertrazon8009
@robertrazon8009 23 дня назад
Haha being romantic/appealing to a person is normal but when its come to Mary its not ok haha. Serving God is also serving others, uplifting others, praising them. Yes you can say its an Obsession but Mary is one of the greatest reason we have Jesus right now, she is the new Eve, there is nothing like her, she is not just a beautiful feminine but a real women and a real mother. I see Jesus Christ in her and I see the Mercy of God in Her.
@wealthybones1280
@wealthybones1280 23 дня назад
​​​@@robertrazon8009Mary was blessed by God, to give birth to the messiah (Jesus). She didnt earn it by being sinless or holy. Jesus is the reason we have Mary. Not the other way around.
@robertrazon8009
@robertrazon8009 23 дня назад
@@wealthybones1280 Yes Your absolutely right and Mary is Blessed, and by being sinless and holy is also increasing the bless of God. That's why we say Hail Mary full of Grace the Lord is with You, Blessed are you among Women. And yes her role are predetermined to become the Mother of Jesus, but God must first see that She will it. Its an act of participation on the Plan of God for our Salvation and we must first will it, God didn't force He's Love to us. Everything is determine by our Free will to accept it or not.
@wealthybones1280
@wealthybones1280 22 дня назад
@robertrazon8009 I think you misunderstood me. I dont believe Mary was sinless, and I think it's ridiculous to believe she stayed a virgin her whole life. Im saying that Mary was blessed by God to give birth to the messiah. Nothing else.
@robertrazon8009
@robertrazon8009 22 дня назад
@@wealthybones1280 sorry I misunderstand you about Mary and I'm apologized if sometimes we are sensitive when comes to Mary. Yes I get your point and I respect that I don't hate you for that. In our viewpoint of Mary as being sinless comes from the foundation of our understanding in inheritance. Normally every person has sin because we inherit it from the sin of our first parent which is Adam and Eve. And God preserve Mary from this original sin. In fact Mary herself said, ‘My soul rejoices in God my savior’ in Luke 1:47. In our understanding, Mary was warn before hand of the danger of sin before she fall for it. Where us we our already a fallen creature and we need God to save us from our fallen nature. In short Mary and Us need a savior which is God. But for me Mary doesn't mind if anyone call her a sinner, she doesn't mind if we recognize her or not, Shes only focus on getting us more closer to Jesus. Maybe your right were Just so fascinated by her, She is just a creature like us, form by the hand of our Good God. But who doesn't praise and adore someone like Mary, who show great humility.
@edgarsimpokolwe2132
@edgarsimpokolwe2132 23 дня назад
😂😂 "and we are gonna win"? Okay? By the way, were y'all pulling these things from? Cos that's not in the Bible i read.
@jimbarino2
@jimbarino2 23 дня назад
Enough with the Sola Scriptura nonsense. Christ didn't come to write a book, he came to found a Church. And the men he trusted to found it wrote a lot of stuff down, but not everything. If the Bible was so all-consuming important, how come most people couldn't read it for the first thousand and half years?
@Malygosblues
@Malygosblues 23 дня назад
It's in the gospel of Luke
@blackforestgiant648
@blackforestgiant648 23 дня назад
@@jimbarino2 Yep, and look where it went. The Reformation in the 16th century didn't happen without a reason.
@Cklert
@Cklert 16 дней назад
@@blackforestgiant648 A terrible reason. Ol Marty had too much of an ego and rather than 'reform' the Church, he doubled down and splintered it and everyone followed suit after him. On his deathbed he lamented the fact about how much division their was in Christianity, and it was never his intention.
@KenGray
@KenGray 18 дней назад
Sooooo.... Yes, you worship Mary? Not asking if you honor her; do you worship her as a god?
@GarrettLeute
@GarrettLeute 18 дней назад
No we do not worship her as a God, that would definitely be a sacreligious act.
@KenGray
@KenGray 18 дней назад
@@GarrettLeute talk to me about the praying then. That's something I only associate to gods not the spirits of people.
@Cklert
@Cklert 16 дней назад
@@KenGray A prayer is a petition. The New Testament on multiple occasions commands us to pray for one another. Mary being the closest to God, is a good advocate. But it is not worship. Worship is something that's reserved only for God, and His adoration is expressed through the Eucharist. Which is something that I think most Portestants have lost. Without the Eucharist, they no longer know how to worship, so they think that something as simple is praying is the only thing to be considered worship.
@KenGray
@KenGray 16 дней назад
@@Cklert Yes, it does. But, the NT doesn't say pray to a person who has died. It's always to God, NEVER people. For worship, are you saying there is no other way to worship God EXCEPT through taking the Eucharist?
@annecreamer9246
@annecreamer9246 23 дня назад
We don't call our mother by her first name ,neither should Catholics refer to Our Blessed Lady as Mary .There are many suitable alternatives for the Blessed Virgin,which would be much more reverential.
@stgh4051
@stgh4051 22 дня назад
We can venerate our mother and still call her Mary with love, intimacy and affection. We call Jesus by his name don’t we? And he’s our God.
@Eternallyhopeful7788
@Eternallyhopeful7788 23 дня назад
❤️‍🩹🙏❤️
@CreaturesOfTheMarsh
@CreaturesOfTheMarsh 23 дня назад
Christ did not reflect His mother but His Father. She was a fallible human like us all. If that can be denied, then Christianity never needed Christ. We are to reflect His nature by respecting our elders and parents, but we shouldn’t carry that to Mary beyond that which we’d extend to anybody else. The argument that Christ had a certain relationship with her, and thus we should to be like Him, is so simplistic that it also implies we must also seek carpentry, have his same social group, live in the same region, or die in the same way. We are to take the lessons and apply them to those in *our* lives in the same way.
@bearistotle2820
@bearistotle2820 23 дня назад
Why not? She bore Christ, who is God in the flesh, and was always faithful to Him. By that very fact alone, she has become much more significant than any other person. I feel like where people often get confused on this point is the distinction between what is fitting and what is required. It is not required to reverence Mary, as Christ alone gets us to heaven. You incur absolutely no sin by not saying a rosary. However, it is fitting to do so because God physically dwelt within her. She became a living, breathing temple, namely the holy of holies as that is the part of the temple God specifically dwelt in.
@Malygosblues
@Malygosblues 23 дня назад
But those things you listed, we should also do. We should all strive to be honest workers or priests or both. We should have the same social group in a sense by forming spiritually enriching relationships as well as venerating the apostles and their toils. We should visit the holy land, we can call those pilgrimages. And we should seek to be martyrs. We should seek to have the life of Christ for ourselves in a way possible for us.
@misterbean5010
@misterbean5010 23 дня назад
On the contrary, the Roman Catholic Church does not teach nor profess the Blessed Virgin Mary as ‘a fallible human like us all’. A great scholarly work by the former Protestant pastor turned Catholic scholar, Dr Scott Hahn, concludes that Jesus’ DNA mirrored that of His Mother. Indeed, this biological axiomatic truth, if fully appreciated, unravels the distinct relationship Mary had with Jesus. In other words, a properly understood and interpreted relationship of Mary and Jesus doesn’t threaten our relationship with Mary and Jesus; on the contrary, it expands it and enriches it for it recognises Mary as playing an integral role in salvation history and sees Mary as an instrument of the Lord. And her obedience and humility to the will of God are precisely the virtues that God adored in choosing Mary to become the ark of the covenant, that is, the dwelling place of Jesus. Indeed, even Holy Scripture attributes a status and dignity that which you don’t extend to her: ‘From now on all generations will call me blessed’: Luke 1:48. The reformers themselves had a deep reverence and respect for Mary extending to her a devotion beyond that which you argue: ‘It is the consolation and the superabundant goodness of God, that man is able to exult in such a treasure”: Martin Luther.
@vinciblegaming6817
@vinciblegaming6817 23 дня назад
Ok, taking you at your word not to treat her differently, I can treat her like I treat my mother- who is a source of wisdom and encouragement in my walk with Christ. I frequently request her intercession and look to her as an example of faithful Christian life. But I think you’d say that’s too far, too,
@CreaturesOfTheMarsh
@CreaturesOfTheMarsh 23 дня назад
@@Malygosblues Yes absolutely but not literally. That my point. I’m not going to seek out those specific people or pray to the apostles since Jesus spoke with them, and I must do the same. I will seek wise counsel and a brotherhood of believers. If it’s nonsensical for me to seek out a man named Zaccheaus and forgive him of his sins, then it’s just as nonsensical to seek to do other acts Jesus literally did rather than applying the same message in kind and acting in the same way. We should learn and act as He did and as he calls us to, but we shouldn’t act out of a context that He was in and we aren’t, unless we are to take every action to its logical extreme
@user-pm3mw8xw8d
@user-pm3mw8xw8d 23 дня назад
Revelation 12 does not say that the dragon waged war against the woman. The theologian guest misquoted it. The dragon waged war against those who follow Christ. And while I'm here, let me mention something Catholics get wrong about Mary. She is not a perpetual virgin. If she and Joseph had never consummated their union they would not have been legally married, and Jesus would have been considered an illegitimate child (but that never came up). The Bible also explicitly says Jesus had siblings. Another subtle but important point is that it's wrong to call Mary the mother of God. God does not have a mother. Jesus the man has a mother of course, which is what the Bible calls her 'the mother of Jesus'. A couple other problems with Catholic practice is that the Bible actually warns us about those who would come into the church prohibiting some to marry and prohibiting certain foods. And further, we are told to call no man Father except THE Father.
@StanleyPinchak
@StanleyPinchak 23 дня назад
Your Christology seems incomplete. Please review the third Ecumenical Council of Ephesus. Mary is truly Theotokos, for Christ is true God and true man. These two natures are inseparable from the moment that the Holy Spirit fecundated Mary's womb and the Word became flesh. Christ was God the entire time that Mary carried Him in her womb and is truly the Mother of God in the hypostasis of Jesus. You can not separate the divine nature from the human nature of our Lord without falling into a Christological heresy. May the Holy Spirit guide you on your study and may the Church Fathers expound these points much more eloquently and with greater clarity than I have attempted so far.
@robertajaycart3491
@robertajaycart3491 23 дня назад
So call no man Father except the Father. So why does the Apostle Paul call himself a Father, 1 Corinthians 4:15 Even if you should have countless guides to Christ, yet you do not have many fathers, for I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel.
@mabdechte
@mabdechte 23 дня назад
Hello 😊The word „Adelphoi“ which means brother can also be used for the meaning of cousin. We call her the mother of god because she is the mother of Jesus who is fully man and fully God. :)
@user-pm3mw8xw8d
@user-pm3mw8xw8d 23 дня назад
@@robertajaycart3491 Did Paul say to CALL him father? No What do YOU think Jesus meant when he said that? What do you think it means when the Bible tells us that we are ALL supposed to be a 'holy priesthood"? What does it mean when it refers to all believers as saints?
@anthonymarchetta8796
@anthonymarchetta8796 23 дня назад
Jesus is God Mary is His Mother Mary is the Mother of God. To deny the conclusion you must deny a premise.
@powerhouse8310
@powerhouse8310 23 дня назад
All these Prot comments prove his point. You don’t understand how the faith works or what worship actually is.
@rangefinderz5135
@rangefinderz5135 23 дня назад
This guy is spot on. Protestantism does not resemble traditional Christianity in any way, shape or form. It is simply "new age spiritualism" and he is rightly pointing out that they are heretical.
@illadvized7623
@illadvized7623 23 дня назад
Can you provide an example?
@rangefinderz5135
@rangefinderz5135 23 дня назад
@@illadvized7623 why? I used to be a protestant who argues against catholics through exisgesis. I am the grandson of a protestant minister. I know all the anti-catholic arguments and they are all lies and misrepresentations. I know, because I used to spout them off and play the proof texting game. Lets get your nonsense put of the way now: " ...muh Idolatry, its just bread, apocrypha, call no man father, sacraments, confession to a man, worship mary, pray to the dead, purgatory isn't biblical, the papacy, the rock is Christ, scripture alone, no works for salvation,"..... AND SO ON. These are your upcoming arguments and sinful deceptive misinterpretations of the True Faith of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. If you want to have a substantive discussion, leave your low IQ Jack Chick Tract heresy at the door. Please and thanks🙂
@StanleyPinchak
@StanleyPinchak 23 дня назад
​@@illadvized7623 What is your take on John 6:54? Is the anamnesis of 1Cor 11:24-26 a true participation in the one and eternal sacrifice of Christ with His Real Presence in the species of bread and wine?
@illadvized7623
@illadvized7623 23 дня назад
@@StanleyPinchak like Nicodemus and the woman at the well, both who which took Jesus literally in his sayings, the disciples misunderstand and take him literally....not to mention it was against levitical law to consume blood. This is covered again in acts.
@rangefinderz5135
@rangefinderz5135 23 дня назад
@@illadvized7623 skipped over the Book of John, eh? Did you miss chapter 6?
@user-dbdbehcbn
@user-dbdbehcbn 20 дней назад
Below is an excerpt from the Legion of Mary handbook. “Sometimes Mary is kept in the background so as to meet the prejudices of those who make small account of her. This method of making Catholic doctrine more acceptable may accord with human reasonings. It does not reflect the Divine idea. Those who act in this way do not realise that they might as well preach Christianity without Christ as ignore Mary’s part in redemption. For God himself has thought fit to arrange that no foreshadowing or coming or giving or manifestation of Jesus should be without Mary. (Legio Mariae pg 273)”
@Ephesians2_8-9-10
@Ephesians2_8-9-10 22 дня назад
Hebrews 4:14-16 : "Seeing then that we have a great High Priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. For we have not an High Priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmaties; but was in all points tempted as we are , yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. " No Mary, all Jesus. 1. John 5:21 : "Little children, guard yourselves from idols. "
@rouxmain934
@rouxmain934 22 дня назад
Proof you don't understand what we're actually talking about
@fabiotuan5206
@fabiotuan5206 23 дня назад
Only Jesus is sinless!!!
@kidpizz
@kidpizz 23 дня назад
The guest seems to be describing a new age style unleash the Christ from within belief system. It's thru Christ's death and resurrection that we are saved alone. God is an example that no man ot woman could ever come close to
@roinois
@roinois 23 дня назад
"For the Son of God became man so that we might become God." is from St Athenasius and is used in the Catholic Cathechism. There is nothing "new age" about it.
@kidpizz
@kidpizz 23 дня назад
So where in the gospel is this ? Exactly
@frekigeri4317
@frekigeri4317 21 день назад
You neither understand the new age nor do you understand Christianity 😂
@MycroftBHolmes
@MycroftBHolmes 23 дня назад
I think a lot of us would find this pretty reasonable if the Roman Catholic church didn’t keep adding stuff later like the immaculate conception and the assumption.
@MathAdam
@MathAdam 23 дня назад
Ancient teachings shared by the oldest churches. You may be be referring to recent definitive definitions of these teachings in 1854 and 1950, but they are certainly nothing new.
@jesseshooter4403
@jesseshooter4403 23 дня назад
🙄
@rangefinderz5135
@rangefinderz5135 23 дня назад
Yeah its so weird that all the ancient Church fathers wrote extensively about those dogmas and hundreds of medieval and rennaissance art pieces directly display scenes of those dogmas.... but hey, you're probably right, they were just randomly dreamed up in the 19th and 20th centuries😅
@MycroftBHolmes
@MycroftBHolmes 23 дня назад
@@rangefinderz5135 yeah you know what Christianity needs more of? Smugness.
@StanleyPinchak
@StanleyPinchak 23 дня назад
I encourage you to do a word study on the greeting used by Gabriel in Luke 1:28. Compare this greeting with the other use of this verb in Eph 1:6. What tense did Gabriel use? How could that be if we know that all have been born into a fallen state? “For behold I was conceived in iniquities; and in sins did my mother conceive me.” (Psa 50:7, DRC) Christ's saving grace was not available until His sacrifice on the Cross, right?
@MMABorch
@MMABorch 23 дня назад
Do you get to Heaven thru Christ or Mary?
@liesdiebibelbruder420
@liesdiebibelbruder420 23 дня назад
I think they think it's Mary
@bearistotle2820
@bearistotle2820 23 дня назад
Through Christ. Scripture is clear on this, as are tradition and the church.
@MathAdam
@MathAdam 23 дня назад
They are not in competition
@liesdiebibelbruder420
@liesdiebibelbruder420 23 дня назад
@bearistotle2820 well. If that is so Stop Worshipping Mary and ESPECIALLY,Stop Praying to her.
@bennymameshiro
@bennymameshiro 23 дня назад
@@liesdiebibelbruder420we don’t pray to her, we ask for her to pray on our behalf. Much like if you asked your own mother to pray for you.
@andreaandrea1884
@andreaandrea1884 23 дня назад
Only evil people hate our blessed Mother Mary!
@ItsThatGuy1989
@ItsThatGuy1989 23 дня назад
Ehhh I get it, but I feel catholics take it too far with Mary. They seem to add more and more stuff
@willolol3353
@willolol3353 23 дня назад
If the Catholic Church is the true Church, this is only natural progression
@slappy1234567
@slappy1234567 23 дня назад
If you pray to Mary, make requests of Mary, have statues of Mary, dedicate churches to Mary, "spend time" with Mary, sing to Mary, you are treating her as if she were God. She is not God and never will be. Stop engaging in idolatry.
@ItsThatGuy1989
@ItsThatGuy1989 23 дня назад
@@slappy1234567 This is a very naïve and simplistic view
@fatstrategist
@fatstrategist 23 дня назад
@@slappy1234567We don’t pray to saints, we petition them to pray for us to God. It’s not much different from asking a friend to pray for you, except the saints are already in Heaven,
@SmithsnMoz
@SmithsnMoz 23 дня назад
How do you feel about rejecting CHRIST, in the HOLY EUCHARIST? ... That's Our Lord right there...BODY, BLOOD SOUL and DIVINITY. ... I feel bad for our Protestant separated brothers.... Pray for guidance.
@slappy1234567
@slappy1234567 23 дня назад
Mary referred to God as her saviour (Luke 1:46-55). Only a sinner needs a saviour.
@Malygosblues
@Malygosblues 23 дня назад
Paul says all have inherited sin through Adam, so was Christ a sinner?
@TheBlinkyImp
@TheBlinkyImp 23 дня назад
@@sonsofpolaris6102In other words, the idea that Mary must be without sin comes not from a revelation of God, but from philosophical musings. If Mary was without sin, how could she be born of her mother who was a sinner? You see how the philosophizing is fundamentally specious?
@_Gingerbred
@_Gingerbred 23 дня назад
@@TheBlinkyImpthe Israelites (sinners) constructed the Ark of the covenant which houses the manna from God. Jesus is the manna and Mary is the new Ark of the covenant.
@luke9747
@luke9747 23 дня назад
It is not a good argument to say that God is not powerful enough to save Mary without first letting her fall to sin. God preserving her from sin before she ever had any still makes him her savior. If someone stops you from walking in front of a car before you do it, they saved you. They don't need to let you get hit by the car then provide aid for that to be true
@trent8678
@trent8678 23 дня назад
​@@Malygosblues" Conceived by the Holy Spirit"
@sebozz2046
@sebozz2046 21 день назад
I deny Jesus
@Dienekes678
@Dienekes678 19 дней назад
Then He shall deny you.
@theproceedings4050
@theproceedings4050 23 дня назад
Ahh yes, the classic "You just don't understand." Totally haven't heard that one before... Seriously guys, please come up with good arguments at least? Telling people, "You dont understand all of Christianity" isn't convincing or very charitable either. You have to understand both sides of the argument to be able to make good appeals. This isn't it. Edit: Jesus came to both atone and sanctify, Protestants believe that. Your words are falling flat because you don't understand who you are talking about. You don't even know the arguments to use.
@Pikminable
@Pikminable 23 дня назад
It's true he's very blunt, but sometimes that's what's needed: just tell the truth as it is
@NevetsWC1134
@NevetsWC1134 23 дня назад
Paul was also blunt
@theproceedings4050
@theproceedings4050 23 дня назад
@@Pikminable The problem isn't that he's blunt. His arguments are just bad arguments. I take little offense at his bluntness, I take greater offense that he thinks any of his arguments are worth very much consideration, they're not good because they lack understanding.
@Pikminable
@Pikminable 23 дня назад
@@theproceedings4050 What do you think he's lacking in understanding of?
@theproceedings4050
@theproceedings4050 23 дня назад
@@NevetsWC1134 Also, bluntness isn't simply a lack of charity. If he was simply being blunt I would have no issue with it. He argued against nobody, because his strawman did not resemble Protestant beliefs whatsoever. This is a common problem, most Catholics spend no time understanding Protestant beliefs, or the actual differences entailed.
@andreaandrea1884
@andreaandrea1884 23 дня назад
Matt sometimes it feels like you are not a real catholic, and you are more worried about losing your protestants subscribers
@PLA5207
@PLA5207 23 дня назад
protestants scream: "I can speak to Jesus directly. We don't need Mary." "Mary isn't in the bible."
13 дней назад
Wut?
@SuperScopeRawks
@SuperScopeRawks 23 дня назад
This guy just doesnt understand Christianity.
@frekigeri4317
@frekigeri4317 21 день назад
Actually, You don’t understand Christianity
@wtharris2343
@wtharris2343 22 дня назад
Jesus himself proclaims Mary as without sin when he refers to her as "woman". Examples of this in scripture are often cited as lessening Mary's role. In fact, it is the opposite. It confirms that she was without sin when Jesus referred to her as "woman" from the cross, that she was conceived without original sin and that she was the Ark of the new covenant. How? "Eve" was only referred to as "woman" In Genesis prior to the eating of the fruit from the tree of good and evil. After the fall she is called "Eve". In other words, Mary as "woman" was and is without sin. She is also proclaimed hereby, at the cross, as the mother of us all and as our mother she loves us, protects us and makes intercession for us in heaven. As "Eve" led all of us away from God's throne our Holy Mother Mary brings all of us "poor banished children of Eve" back. Our Lord's own words confirm our Holy Mother Mary's role.
13 дней назад
Now THAT is reading into the text for sure.
@wtharris2343
@wtharris2343 12 дней назад
you must have a REAL hard time getting the meaning out of our Lord's parables then.
12 дней назад
@@wtharris2343 no, no. I just don't eisegete.
@wtharris2343
@wtharris2343 12 дней назад
neither do you extrapolate.
@sandraproctor854
@sandraproctor854 23 дня назад
"For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God". That includes Mary. An addled-brained "pope" declared that she was without sin.
@reverendcoffinsotherson5807
@reverendcoffinsotherson5807 23 дня назад
Does "all" include Jesus, as He was still fully man, too?
@calebmcmurtrie7886
@calebmcmurtrie7886 23 дня назад
@@reverendcoffinsotherson5807 all refers to all people meaning Jew and Greek. However it too can mean all men as an implication. But because Christ is God and the glory of God he can’t fall short of the thing He is Himself. His incarnation does not make Him fall short. Mary needed a savior and lovers her savior as we do my friend. Praise Jesus alone for He is our redeemer. No other name will we be saved. Blessings to you
@snaketalejohnny
@snaketalejohnny 23 дня назад
oh a pope did that? is that why all those eastern churches believe it too? and "all" have sinned? gosh that must include Jesus too right? Since he existed and was fully man. Dang. you just blew up the whole religion. couldn't be that the greek word "pas" doesn't necessarily mean "no exceptions" and that your fallible, twisted interpretation is wrong. nope. couldn't be that.
@sandraproctor854
@sandraproctor854 23 дня назад
Jesus was came to earth in the form of mankind in order to be the perfect sacrifice that would satisfy God's demand for justice.
@Malygosblues
@Malygosblues 23 дня назад
​@@calebmcmurtrie7886That's your own exegesis of the word all.
@allendula
@allendula 23 дня назад
PURE BLASPHEMY AND HERESY THAT GOD INTENDS FOR A PERSON TO BECOME A GOD…CRAZY AND UTTER BLASPHEMY
@StanleyPinchak
@StanleyPinchak 23 дня назад
Calm down and investigate what the Church Fathers mean by theosis or divinization. Our telos is to become like Jesus, not in equality with God, but truly imaging the Father. We can never be the Alpha and Omega, but we are to be like Christ and will judge the angels. What do you think Satan was so pissed about. “But we all, beholding the glory of the Lord with open face, are transformed into the same image from glory to glory, as by the Spirit of the Lord.” (2 Cor 3:18, DRC)
@Matt-fg7ut
@Matt-fg7ut 23 дня назад
That's not what we mean schizo
@imover9999
@imover9999 23 дня назад
He isn't saying become A God. He's saying to unite our souls to God. To join with Christ the love shared between the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. We don't usurp anything from God, we only become like Christ in our heart's intentions. When Christ lives in us it only makes sense that we would become unified with Him in the after life. Not Gods ourselves... But partakers. I'm not a theologian or priest, but please relax with the religious scrupulosity. This is what the early Church taught and was taught for 1500 years before Luther...
@fosterduncan7
@fosterduncan7 23 дня назад
Calm down…It literally says in the Bible to be conformed to His image
@fosterduncan7
@fosterduncan7 23 дня назад
@@imover9999It’s crazy the amount of Prots who don’t understand this. I grew up prot/evangelical and I thought we all understood that we are supposed to be becoming more like Christ everyday.
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