What's cheaper in the REAL WORLD? An EV or a 30 year old PETROL (turbo automatic!) 

Judging by this video, it's Quentin Wilson who is the nut job! What a plank!!

If it was ever about saving the environment, we'd be upgrading old cars to keep them running smoothly, and a life of at least 20 to 30 years

How can a car maker make an EV when they can't even make electric fans that don't fail within three years?

At least an EV can do 0-60 in three seconds Which is very handy when you’re delivering milk

Here we go - Geoff and Lee have just proved that Wilson fella is talking bollocks. 😆

4 tyres for the Porsche costs more than the whole Volvo cost lol

Quentin Willson tries to be witty but is more like a slick spiv, whereas these 2 gents are genuinely funny and informative. Oh, of course, QW used to be with the BBC - disinformation specialists - nuff said!

If Quentin Wilson told me it was raining…. I would go to the window and check.

Quentin must be speaking his bollox due to his paymasters

Got to add the cost of all the food and coffee's you end up having while waiting for it to charge !

Me buy an EV, never, I'd rather get a horse and buggy and call myself Amish

"If you want a 4 door Porsche" you seriously need therapy

it's like his broom.... had it 25 years, 7 new heads and 5 new sticks....

I would rather be a nut job than a dodgy used car dealer

Quentin is deluded. Shame to see how low he has gone.

Volvo wins all day every day 🎉

Old Volvo's never die they just turn into lovely comfortable armchairs! I used to mock them back in the day but now I'd definitely own an older one. Thanks Geoff from Tasmania Australia

Since the 1 April in New Zealand all EV’s and Hybrids have had to start paying Road Taxes per kilometre just like all the Diesel vehicles.

More expensive and the government has not put on it's approximately 70% excise duty yet 🤔

Those noisy fans Lee and Geoff are the fans that cools the liquid coolant around your traction battery pack keeping the pack cool otherwise the battery pack would be compromised and thermal runaway can start so these fans are extremely important. I believe there is also an inverter fan if your charging via A/C as the inverter onboard your car converts the A/C from the public charger to a DC which is used to charge the traction battery pack so it could be that fan as well.

I've got an XC90 120000 miles in mint condition £750 and it's brilliant 😂😂😂😂

that fan is cooling lees wallet!

Your Volvo looks lovely - I have TWO 940 saloons - both are the same colour as yours - they are 28 years old and I have had them for 18 years -still running perfectly.

Glad you talked about tires as i had a bloke tell me there's no difference between them and ICE cars .I also got a quote from a tire business that confirmed that EV tire are 50 to 100 dollars more expensive than ICE cars tires. Thanks guys cheers from Australia.

Come on Quentin - tell us who pays you. Are you a true 'independent' journalist or a paid-for churnalist?

Porsche Taycan? More like "Trigger's Broom"...

I couldn’t get £47 in my car, but a full 8 gallons will give me 480 miles

You’re spending 75p per kW because the charger is wasting twice as much energy as you’re getting in waste heat which is only adding to global warming 😂😂

I’m a simple old man who can afford any car but instead drives a 2003 Lincoln: buttery smooth and utterly reliable, lowest possible taxes & insurance, no monthly payment for many years. These old cars are very popular with mechanics and the 20-something crowd you’d think would be mindlessly flocking to EVs. At the rate I drive I calculate an engine overhaul will be due in 2042.

The Taycan is getting the same mpg as my W123 280E, with its incredibly thirsty engine designed in the early 70s. About 22-23mpg. Future my sump.

They like playing games with the public well they can have some of there own medicine back

Where I live it's about 40% cheaper to fill my diesel Fiesta than it is to use public charging...and FAAAAAR more convenient. No queues, no apps, no broken chargers. Also I'm not going to lose range over time because I filled the tank to 100%; 16 years and 400,000km on and it still gets the same range it did the day it rolled off the production line.

Given how much of Lee’s car has been replaced it’s little wonder that the values are dropping like a stone. Can you just imagine when that’s out of warranty. I saw a Tesla owner paying £1500 for a new headlight because it got a stone chip which allowed water in that then made the car inoperable. These new cars will never make old bones.

Watch a video yesterday about evs and its amazing how many EV owners hate RU-vidrs that drive ice cars. Its like you've hurt their feeling and the regrets of owning an ev is starting to hit home 😂

My Euro 6 Diesel Škoda was doing between 60 and 70mpg , was able to do between 550 and 650 miles from a tank, that cost me 70ish pounds to fill. I live in a place where there's no driveways, which means I can forget about home socket charging...EV? No Way.

There is a reason there are over 800 of these Porsche EV's on Autotrader .....literally can barely give them away .

It is a correct assumption that not only public charging rates will go up, but sadly home rates will rocket and that is particularly sad because rates will also go up significantly for households that do not have vehicles at all.

You should carry a Petrol Generator in boot to charge the EV see if works out cheaper to charge the car over the grid system

Just as I’ve pointed out to another EV fan. If you do the sums when purchasing a new EV over its equivalent ICE car, you’ve already paid upfront for most of the fuel if not all of it for the 5 years of ownership.

There's a place that tests electric cars that i went to and i asked what is the best one to get. And the bloke said look in the car park there isn't any electric cars

Checkmate - on the EV King (the industry), that never was without flaw from its inception - never well thought out (as a critical thinker with common sense would do). Plus, One can think, what's your time on Earth worth? How many hours charging the EV and eating junk food, versus, a few minutes to pump petrol? More mileage, less cost, and you get to your destination sooner, on-time - Wow, petrol and diesel cars really are amazing! Keep up the great work - your evidence to preserve the joy of motoring and road tripping is invaluable. Strength! GODspeed!

I live in Pennsylvania USA, I work at a CDJR dealership so I follow the EV craze closely as I'm involved. My research is this, a comparable ICE car will cost less to refuel "in the wild" than an EV, if you charge your EV at home it's about the same. If you factor in the extra cost for the charger, plus the extra you pay for insurance, an ICE car is less expensive to run...total cost ICE wins every time.

I remember the last time motorists did what the Gov wanted and bought diesels then they put unreliable emmisions crap on them and now sales of petrol are much higher than diesels and those who want electric started with hybrids whose sales are also up.. Guess which sales are down, yep diesels and EVs

There is also the fact that to install a home charger costs around £2000, and this cost needs to be included when looking at the cost of home charging.

EV car prices in free fall ... loads on the market not selling ... what a disaster Remember whatever government recommends 100% do the opposite

lol quentin says the tyres don't wear out quicker. 🙄

My (professional) hourly rate is £75. 3 minutes for diesel @ a time cost of £3.75. Using electric it would (might?) have taken one hour so £75. And businesses are supposed to use these things?

Never owned a Volvo but now seriously considering buying a brick 😮 keep up the great work.

Electric Cars..... They'll never catch on. And I've just crushed FOUR (4) FIVE (5) year old Model 3's(Batteries and Touchscreens were already removed..)@Work with several more on the way. Kinda sad that almost no one buys Lights Panels or even the Wheels off of the damn things. We here at work fill 'em up with Panels and anything else made of Metal/Iron.

I can never take anyone with a first name as Quentin seriously

The gov make over £26 billion from petrol/diesel every year, when we all move to EVs electricity will suddenly be subject to additional taxes.

Should got himself Nissan Leaf. I had mine for 7 years done 70k miles, and I never had any problem.

I LOVE my 02 saab 95 aero ! 2.3l petrol auto 🤣 wouldnt swap her for any ev on the market.

Love that old Volvo Good man Geoff 👊🏼

My old SAAB 9-5 AERO is much cheaper to drive than a new EV that only uses public chargers here in sweden.😂

The way you guys riffed on QW's "Nut job on You Tube..." comment is hilarious and made me laugh, thank you!

The couple in the previous video said it costs 7p to charge at home, but and its a massive but that's at present, that will go through the roof once they feel fit to do so.

Domestic electricity is now 27p per KwH, not 8p. Also anyone who wants to charge at home is now being mandated to have a separate charging point that talks to your smart meter.

They will have to enter my house with force to install a smart meter 😂 Diesel power forevermore ❤❤❤

Hi from Oz Geoff - Great vid between yourself and Lee. Please keep up the great work enlightening people 👍

All that heat coming from that charger

I'm amazed people are figuring it out only now. As soon the EV were pushed to us I've bought a recent second-hand turbo diesel and a 35-year-old petrol city car.

Look it’s a use case scenario. If you’re using a car to go about 100 miles per day, have solar panels and have capacity to install a ev charger then yes this is worth it. If you’re in a 15th floor flat and have to charge using public chargers then you’re absolutely mad to get a EV. If you plan to travel 150 plus miles in an EV for holidays then that’s also madness. I want an EV for commuting to work and I have the wife’s Derv for family trips. Still some way off of ev for all use cases.

Long live my 2003 Peugeot 206. Never ever broken down. Never had a problem 💪💪💪💪💪

The 850 will out live that ev the engine definitely wil the good old T5 engine

I almost want to ask him to pop the bonnet.

The other difference is if you put 180 miles worth of petrol in a car and leave it parked for 2 months, when you start it up and drive off, it'll give approx 180 miles of distance. If you charge an EV up to 180 miles distance and leave it parked for 2 months, you'll probably need to charge it again.

I don't miss my BMW i4 at all. Drive 4 hours to Luton airport, get on flight, come home, get in car and now I have a V6 petrol I can do it in 1 tank, or a 5 min pop into service station. And, like this, its CHEAPER. (plus, the old CrossFire sounds awesome)

Did I dream that all new properties have to have a separately metered electric vehicle charging point that can be controlled by the utility company to deliver charge at times that do not adversely affect the power grid?! 🤷🏻‍♂️

When you add in insurance it’s no contest.

My 1987 diesel transit will do 400 miles on £100 and that's loaded and working hard.

they have trouble when everyone puts the kettle on at half time when everyones watching football so its going to be bad if everyone is charging a car at home

£47 for 170 miles is around 25mpg

Love Geoff And The Mac..... Quck Fuenten.

I don't think I need spoilers on this one...

Lee, if that was my car,mate I think the word petrol and match would come to mind.

Even though it’s more expensive to run the EV, it’s the depreciation that is far far far worse!!!! EVs only work for rich company car drivers because of tax breaks…… which the rest of us are funding through our taxes 🤬🤬🤬

Fully charged scam ?

Lee loves his car, it's a cash cow for his channel. that car has paid for itself.

Johnny Cash ' singing one piece at a Time burst into my head , when the quip trying to give a new car with out him noticing was said 😂

The EV thing is done 😂

The human race is devolving.

My 2006 7 seat ford smax will go the same distance on like £35 😂 it insane. Evs are fine for people that lease a car every 3 years and can charge at home. If your buying out right they make no sense you will never recoup the cost. Having a 7 seater there is few options and they horrifically expensive i did the maths before and on a tesla it would take 20 years to break even just home charging. Even at 10 years lets say thats ridiculous.

He's called Quentin - what else did you expect

All new cars r made to the lowest standards to be ♻️& cheap💰old cars r better n obs its better for the carbon 👣to keep an older car on the road rather than scrap it then make a new 1. The world has gone mad🤪

All us theorists of conspiracies seem to be held back and dragged into a dystopia by all the believers of the BS, how can we get through to them or at least a grown up conversation???, 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

Lee's big end has gone by the sound of it 😁. Great to see the Mac again

Now in the real world, people that can charge at home pay 7.5p/kWh to charge overnight. That’s about 1.9p/mile.

Dying your hair doesn't make you a nut job quentin 😂

My brothers neighbor bought an electric car, it burst into flames as he was driving off the forecourt! His dog didn't make it! 😢 RIP Billy. ❤

The case proved thanks to both of you.

I bet volvo prices just went up by a notch :D

Coal and gas remain best

Giving the safest car on the road is an EV if you knowingly convince someone to buy a less safe ice car for some alternative motive or incentive, You are indirectly killing people who end up in crashes in there less safe car. Why dont you also tell people how much it cost to charge at home on your fixed tarrif

Quentin pretentious Wilson would be banned by Facebook for lying like that 😂

I usually get bullied by people telling me, that my rusty 20-year old Ford must cost me a fortune and just be a struggle to keep running. In reallity I usually spend between £300-£600 for service and repairs per year on it. The only other costs on top of that will be the tax, MOT and petrol.... I were no good at mats in school. But I think I can drive quite far before I can justify a car loan to drive any cheaper!

I said right from the start that the electric prices would go up as more people buy milk floats

I looked at EVs but was put off by poor reliability, serving costs, charging anxiety, range anxiety, depreciation, general cost of up keep. I decided to stay petrol and bought a little 2 seater that is great. Keep your EV’s people, you were conned by the government and the motor industry

Quentin, well done!

On the topic of future prices I keep saying, unless I've got it drastically wrong, that nearly 90% of total UK energy needs and that isn't just electric , its gas boilers, gas turbines gas cooking, then you have our whole transport system which is part of the costs for all our commodities transporting that's road, air train, shipping, agricultural and building, . At the moment our grid output is just about 10% of our total energy needs. So what will happen when that 90% has to be met by the current (nice pun) generation capacity. It will have to raise its output around 900%. So we are expected to believe that we will all have clean EV's, clean ships. total electric transport everywhere, even agriculture, construction, mining, you name it all powered by the grid which will magically raise its production output 900% by 2035. And how will this magic grid be powered, ah yes fossil fuels so even if this fairy tale came true the electricity will still be powered by fucking fossil fuels!!!!!!!!!!.... We also need to understand that to achieve total electrical bliss every house hold, street, road , pylon and substations will need to be renewed dug up and replaced to meet the 900% extra usage. Personally I don't t believe the elite globalist think this is even remotely possible and the grid will stay the same but our energy usage will be cut to a trickle via as Obama (globalist stooge) said in 2012 by skyrocketing prices. We will essentially be like battery hens , Confined in walled towns and cities, Walled not to protect us but to keep us in. Finally is C02 is the all powerful temperature driver that the left/globalist nut cases say then we will also freeze into oblivion as the climate grows colder and energy becomes rarer . t least our ancestors could burn wood