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Muzzleloaders are a great option to expand your hunting opportunities across the west. There are a lot of different options when it comes to Muzzleloaders and we decided to put on a Muzzleloader Challenge to show the difference between three different open sight muzzleloaders.
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0:00 - 0:37 - Intro
0:38 - 01:48 - CVA Accura V2
01:49 - 03:01 - Arrowhead
03:02 - 05:01 - CVA Paramount Pro
05:02 - 12:08 - Muzzy Challenge
12:09 - 13:51 - Closing

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Комментарии : 96   
@kingsolomon8946
@kingsolomon8946 2 года назад
So moral of the story is if you save money on a gun you’re gonna end up spending it anyways in tacos down the rd so just buy a higher end gun to start with !!🤙🏿🤙🏿
@MrNikkoz
@MrNikkoz Год назад
$7200 buys a lot of Deer Taco's.
@jameskauffman523
@jameskauffman523 Год назад
thanks for the video guys. for the next one, maybe you could each shoot a three shot group out of each muzzleloader (for a total of 9 shots per gun) so that its more of a gun comparison than a shooter with his gun...
@The-Yotesmith
@The-Yotesmith 2 года назад
Nice job Brady, glad to see this after the free throw comp. All you guys did good, this it the content people (at least I do) like to see in the off season. Sharpen them skills men and keep up the great work.
@perryknetter8577
@perryknetter8577 2 года назад
Thank you Guys for for sharing this great information The competition was great Nothing better then friends getting together shooting or hunting God's Blessings to Guys on all your adventures
@UrMom_says
@UrMom_says 2 года назад
Loved this video! Especially as someone who's just getting into muzzleloaders. And mainly for Colorado. Excellent job breaking everything down in detail w/price
@hunt_excelpaulbais2876
@hunt_excelpaulbais2876 2 года назад
Arrowhead is legit! I am looking into the TC encore build they do
@shannonludwick5738
@shannonludwick5738 Год назад
Nice rifles guys nice shooting shoot 50 years I love any kind of muzzle loaders guy still nice job
@michaeltubbs2493
@michaeltubbs2493 2 года назад
Great video great footage thanks for sharing!
@akennedy52
@akennedy52 2 года назад
Thanks guys. This was helpful. I own 2 of the 3 muzzleloaders you tested and like them both.
@Pokelemon3434
@Pokelemon3434 Год назад
Do you own the paramount?
@codyrichardson6038
@codyrichardson6038 2 года назад
Love the Ckye pod Brady! So versatile
@armandomada633
@armandomada633 2 года назад
Awesome thanks for posting
@sheerwillsurvival2064
@sheerwillsurvival2064 2 года назад
The arrowhead cost more then my first car and divorce 😁
@ArrowheadRifles
@ArrowheadRifles 2 года назад
that's a cheap divorce lol
@sheerwillsurvival2064
@sheerwillsurvival2064 2 года назад
@@ArrowheadRifles yeah didn’t have much then 😁
@sheerwillsurvival2064
@sheerwillsurvival2064 2 года назад
@@ArrowheadRifles that rifle sure does shoot sweet though. It’s the old saying you get what you pay for
@seswapp1476
@seswapp1476 Год назад
Bought a scope in your Vegas store yesterday, thanks for the tour! Great building!
@GOHUNT
@GOHUNT Год назад
Thanks for coming by!
@SteveChishamSr
@SteveChishamSr 4 месяца назад
That's good accuracy from the two rifles
@A63NT1212
@A63NT1212 Год назад
liked and subscribed! I'm new to muzzleloaders, just picked up the CVA accura, and now am in awe of the bolt action!, I might have caught some sort of fantastic new sickness!! anyway great video, Nice Shooting!
@GOHUNT
@GOHUNT Год назад
Thanks for checking out the video and subscribing! Enjoy the CVA Accura 🔥
@h4l414
@h4l414 Год назад
Would have liked to have seen another attempt with the CVA. Had to be user error.
@qwertyuio905
@qwertyuio905 2 года назад
Get a t/c impact. Put a good peep sight on it and go hunting. Inside of 200 yds it's as accurate as any of these rifles. I paid $230 for the gun and about 40 for new sights. 250g sst sabots for wa. And 300g hammers for co. Bh209 powder and 209 primers. Unless you enjoy spending extra $ with minimal return, then sky is the limit. In my experience the sst muzzloader bullets hold together much better than the .308 or .284 sst that I have used in a modern rifle.
@welltheregoestheneighborho8584
@welltheregoestheneighborho8584 3 месяца назад
Nice intro!
@257Tony
@257Tony 2 года назад
While it is cool soo what the different price points buy, this was really a test of the shooters, not the guns. Need to have one guy doing all the shooting to test the actual gun. Shooter #2 was shooting off the forearm for his first 2 shots, then off the barrel for shot 3, not going to get the guns best groups that way. Shooter #3 had the best setup for my money. Thumbs up.
@brady_j_miller
@brady_j_miller 2 года назад
Agree. Josh wanted to shoot his gun sort of like a real hunting situation since he doesn’t use a bipod on his muzzy. Whereas Ryan and myself always have a bipod. I felt bad we didn’t have a backpack for Josh to shoot off of. But he made it work with his shooting bags. We talked about doing a second version the same day like that where one person does all the shooting. But during these times… I like saving my bullets, primers and powder as much as possible. Glad you enjoyed the video!!
@Ducatispo5
@Ducatispo5 2 года назад
I think that if Josh stopped using powder pellets and went with BH209 measured by weight he would also have a lot more consistency between shots. My own groups tightened up significantly making that change.
@kevincolonel3070
@kevincolonel3070 2 месяца назад
Josh, it's not the rifle that is holding you back, it's those pellets. Start developing a load using powder, any powder, pyrodex, 777, goex, swiss, bh209. They will all outperform any pellet! Bh209 is the best, but tough to find. Good luck, but with a little experimenting, you can compete with those overpriced rifles. I know this because my CVA Kodiak Magnum with 85gr of pyrodex with 240gr Hornady FTX bullet would have easily won this contest.
@mattharbour6186
@mattharbour6186 2 года назад
Brady - What made you chose the NECG N-106 vs. the Williams Peep site? Very curious, as I am setting up a Colorado legal ML as we speak. Thanks!
@rogerramjet7567
@rogerramjet7567 7 месяцев назад
My CVA shoots 1” with borelocks and blackhorn 209. 👍👍. It’s not going to get better than that. It’s nothing special, just off the shelf.
@dionysis84
@dionysis84 2 года назад
So is it worth it going all in on one of the better ones for someone getting their first one? A customer of mine put a TC Encore in my hands the other day and it felt awesome. I like nice rifles, but I want to get into muzzleloaders and not sure where to start.. encore, triumph, accura, optima, maybe that new nitro fire that seems super easy and way safer...
@maximustheconfessor72
@maximustheconfessor72 2 года назад
Glad I stumbled across this. Planning on buying a bargain basement set up so I can hunt more muleys here in NV. Archery is too expensive and intensive and I don't like deer in velvet (like shooting an unripe banana) Muzzy>archery all day!!
@travisbennett9751
@travisbennett9751 2 года назад
“Archery is too expensive” How? Compared to muzzy? two of the muzzle loaders in this video, in their configuration, are well over 1k. The ArrowHead total setup is easily over 2K. Granted, over the two seasons (Archery & Muzzle loader) in the long run, the muzzle loader may end up being a cheaper investment. We do go through compound bows like underwear every year. A better sight, shaft, or broad head to get. So maybe muzzy is cheaper in the grand scheme of things. But if you wish to have maximum odds, you do all three archery, muzzle, and rifle.
@maximustheconfessor72
@maximustheconfessor72 2 года назад
@@travisbennett9751 Cuz if I went archery I'd want a decent set up and there's more add ons. Plus it takes an insane amount of practice in comparison. The main thing is I don't want to kill a deer in 95 degree heat in velvet. More chance of meat spoiling and velvet antlers are NOT my thing. September is a much more pleasant month to hunt than August.
@TeamBuffaloOutdoors
@TeamBuffaloOutdoors Год назад
Great vid. The .45 was at a clear advantage. It would be interesting if you tried Knight’s ultra-lite setup for elk hunting and Knight’s 10 mm Peregrine. Which I think could take the arrowhead. Great shooting!
@TangoOne
@TangoOne Год назад
I wouldn't say "clear" advantage. The last group was a .50 and nearly identical.
@RockyMountainHunter2
@RockyMountainHunter2 Год назад
Did you have any issues with the Powerbelts gas check hitting the MZ Rex 2 muzzle break on the CVA Paramount Pro Colorado. How long did it take to get your muzzle break. I ordered one several weeks ago and have not heard anything. I sent an email this past week and crickets.
@joshcc1974
@joshcc1974 2 года назад
I shoot an Accura and I love it, it shoots 1" groups consistently at 100 yards. 240 grain bullet, 100 grains. All stock.
@joshcc1974
@joshcc1974 2 года назад
that being said I do want a Paramount.
@randyjohnson6845
@randyjohnson6845 Год назад
I'm commenting with respect..make a video and prove it
@joshcc1974
@joshcc1974 Год назад
@@randyjohnson6845 not worth my time, I couldn't care less about proving it
@randyjohnson6845
@randyjohnson6845 Год назад
@@joshcc1974 well I dont believe you could do it if I payed you...so it's best dont even try....I have 3 custom Thompson encore rifles and 2 custom 15" encore pistols..I could not shoot a piece of shit power belt at 100 yards 1" group for 1000 dollars... but I guarantee I can get one or all five of my encores to shoot 1" at 100 yards..but it's with a shockwave sabot and cleaning with 4 to 6 patches between shots..
@nathansampson4162
@nathansampson4162 Год назад
I’d back that up with my accura, 1” at 100 yards no problem. I’ve shot 1” with my CVA wolf! 100 grains loose powder and 240gr XTP
@zackw9292
@zackw9292 2 года назад
Just curious why you’re all running the lee shaver inserts over the williams or lyman?
@walter992
@walter992 Год назад
Two long range guns with bipods against basically a MR off a bag...you guys suckered him into dinner.
@craigkowalczyk3516
@craigkowalczyk3516 7 месяцев назад
Knight ultra lite for the win
@clartro
@clartro Год назад
Just now realized through your odds that I'm probably going for a muzzleloader hunt next time I draw
@GOHUNT
@GOHUNT Год назад
Love to hear it, fingers crossed!
@blackpressurecartridgesolu9028
@blackpressurecartridgesolu9028 Месяц назад
Low Pressure 50 Caliber Smokeless Loads in a 209 Factory Muzzleloader, 2 DVD set | eBay These 2 DVDs contain a demonstration of using Low Pressure Smokeless Loads in a 50 caliber factory muzzleloader.
@highdesertforester
@highdesertforester 6 месяцев назад
The bolt actions are not legal in Washington where they require open ignitions, right?
@randyjohnson6845
@randyjohnson6845 7 месяцев назад
First muzzle video where I ever saw anyone with a ramrod or powder or bullet in there hand ..
@beenstork
@beenstork 2 года назад
I dont understand why pellets are so popular. Premeasuring powder and putting them in vials is easy and actually cheaper. You can fine tune you load and get better results. Are pellets really that much easier to load than dumping a small vial down the bore??? I dont think so
@randyjohnson6845
@randyjohnson6845 Год назад
Pellets are banned in Colorado
@wcb5890
@wcb5890 6 месяцев назад
Pellets are popular because they are easy. Plane and simple. Remember MOST hunters are in the "good enough" crowd.
@superbeast-lq3ft
@superbeast-lq3ft 9 месяцев назад
cva break opens suck, ive owned three , rem 700ml or knight is way more accurate, both mine shoot thor bullets in 1 and a half in groups at 100 yds . cva is a 5 inch gun at best.
@marckenney979
@marckenney979 2 года назад
To be fair you should have taken the cost and divided by the group size. If the guy with the most expensive gun doesn’t win it’s definitely the shooter.
@gwiltz1123
@gwiltz1123 2 года назад
Shooting for groups, should have just held where your hold was for the first shot lol
@royboone5991
@royboone5991 Год назад
Cva for the money.
@Infruxzing
@Infruxzing 8 месяцев назад
Longer the barrel the accuracy tunes in more.
@brentwinkelman1990
@brentwinkelman1990 Год назад
Terrible rest on the second shooter haha
@oneeyehunter8248
@oneeyehunter8248 Год назад
I just put a peep on my knight Mountaineer and it shoots much tighter groups now. I get 3 shots in the size of a 50 cent peace
@taylorblanchette8861
@taylorblanchette8861 2 года назад
What kuiu jacket is Chris Neville wearing in this video?
@GOHUNT
@GOHUNT 2 года назад
That is the Kenai jacket
@raystevens1458
@raystevens1458 Год назад
If you have a paper bill of any denomination, you always have a ruler, 6" long X 2 &9/16" (1/2"). I am curious why you did not use scopes, I haven't seen any hunters using open sights for hunting in any terrain. I did enjoy you testing competition.
@randyjohnson6845
@randyjohnson6845 Год назад
I think it's a law in Colorado..no scopes..probably two states in all of the universe you cant use a scope on a muzzle loader...Pennsylvania
@kirbyclone3293
@kirbyclone3293 Год назад
And Washington
@1x5x5
@1x5x5 Год назад
Oregon as well.
@1x5x5
@1x5x5 Год назад
Keep it real and show your skills otherwise what is the challenge.
@eloymarquez4783
@eloymarquez4783 Год назад
And new mexico
@nickcampagnahunt
@nickcampagnahunt 2 года назад
Great video, you guys should have really tried a woodman arms patriot built in Fremont NH, small operation keeps them from blowing up but you can’t find a better built or more accurate muzzleloader.
@brady_j_miller
@brady_j_miller 2 года назад
I just looked that muzzleloader up. That is a true work of art. Beautiful muzzy! Appreciate you sharing that, I'm going to look into them more.
@nickcampagnahunt
@nickcampagnahunt 2 года назад
No problem, I love what you guys do at go hunt. Keep up the great work!
@marke219
@marke219 Год назад
You can do as good or better with almost any gun. I have 2 TC firehawks and 2 whites.... Nothing special......I use pyrodex and hard cast lfn bullets in harvester sabots. Have shot clean through elk end to end!!!! Better terminak performance than my 338 win mag. I wouldn't use anything else.
@robertgutierrez1702
@robertgutierrez1702 2 года назад
Ill just try my luck with a cheap ass one lol
@timk8079
@timk8079 Год назад
I would like to see one shooter shoot each rifle for a true "rifle" comparison.
@Rackpack-mb4ml
@Rackpack-mb4ml 6 месяцев назад
Lol.. I was the first person to setup the paramount pro colorado with this rear sight and muzzlebrake. I posted it on the official paramount Facebook group. Glad to see it caught on.
@DEVILDOG1964
@DEVILDOG1964 8 месяцев назад
$500.00 FOR AN OPTIMA V2 YOU GOT RIPPED OFF BROTHER!!
@amstaffer1
@amstaffer1 2 года назад
$7, 200 please !
@wyomtnhippie
@wyomtnhippie 2 года назад
Wyoming doesn’t have a muzzleloader season.
@reynoldscs
@reynoldscs 2 года назад
ok
@bradcantrell4066
@bradcantrell4066 2 года назад
I think it's notable Ryan and Brady's groups were the tightest using the Blackhorn 209 powder. I switched to BH several seasons ago after finding it to be vastly more consistent over any of the pelleted powders and even loose Triple Seven and Pryodex. After making the switch to BH, my groups closed considerably, mostly like seen by Josh and Brady's groups seen in the challenge. I'd be curious to see what Josh's groups looked like if he was shooting BH.
@myidahohomestead.7123
@myidahohomestead.7123 Год назад
Not very accurate comparison when its different guys shooting each gun and they aren't all the same caliber
@wcb5890
@wcb5890 6 месяцев назад
210 Magnum primers? Not a thing....215 are Large Rifle Magnum....210s are standard Large Rifle
@dalegee7398
@dalegee7398 2 года назад
Honest opinion of the video, don’t use the 2nd guy again unless he can take it serious, whoever edited the video the 2nd guy got the velocity wrong based on what was on the screen....... just keep Brady and Neville least they’re look like backcountry hunters.
@DEVILDOG1964
@DEVILDOG1964 8 месяцев назад
AND YOU CAN'T SHOOT EITHER.
@toddcarter717
@toddcarter717 2 года назад
This test is a fraud. Cva with 50 grains and other with over 100 grain. Should be same powder and same bullet weight. Then there wouldnt be that much difference at 100 yards
@brady_j_miller
@brady_j_miller 2 года назад
Hey Todd. Josh was using three of the 50 grain pellets. So 150 total for his setup. I agree. 50 grains just wouldn’t have been fair either haha
@brandondamasco6768
@brandondamasco6768 2 года назад
The fact that he was using pellets was already a sign his gun wasn’t going to be consistent. When I hunt with pellets I weigh all my pellets and make sure they all weigh the same.
@Michaeldpress14
@Michaeldpress14 2 года назад
They are showing the difference in hunting setups , that is the point .
@brandondamasco6768
@brandondamasco6768 2 года назад
Well you was just saying that there wouldn’t be a difference if they all weighed the same. Problem is the pellets aren’t accurate weights. So from the start the pellets was going to be at a disadvantage. I shoot both and I can tell you by sorting out your pellets prior to shooting you’ll have a some what consistent spread. Now another thing they need to check is seating depth. That’s why I mark my ram rod. I’ve seen deviations in just that alone.
@Airon79
@Airon79 Год назад
I was thinking for myself , and maybe plinksters and for making it not overkill for small game but also able for large game was an muzzie somewhere in the neighborhood of .20-.30 caliber . I was leaning more towards. 25 calibers ( 25acp , 6.5 , and 25-06 ) or 7.62/30 cal but by looking at reloading supplies the .30 cal due to abundance of those rounds ; like 300 RUM , 30-30 , 30 carbine , 30 super etc etc . So an combustion chamber that can hold maybe 200g down to maybe 33g or smaller and for the igniter .22 blanks due to the .22 always seem to be in supply even during recessions vs , actually I can't even find the 209 primers , percusion caps , or 32 blanks . Although a rifle that can deliver 300 magnum power and still fire a small handgun bullet may be too broad , even though they definitely could make spacers to put in combustion chamber to keep powder bunched up for better chance of firing , but maybe something that has a power range between 7.62 handgun loads to 7.62x39 or 7.62x51-300 RUM . I think I would love the fact that I had a rifle that could deliver magnum power if I wanted it to but also be able to chamber a bullet small enough to take out small game without it being overkill . Did I also mention maybe an option for a 34" barrel for long range shooting if desired .
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