Back at it again with the North Korean cartoons! I honestly thought that this one would be a bit more chilled out but I was VERY wrong lol Support me on Patreon : www.patreon.com/saberspark Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/Saberspark
When I was an exchange student in America and we learned about the colonies, my teacher told us that while there never was a romantic relationship between John Smith and Pocahontas, they did meet. She then proceeded to write on the whiteboard "John Smith really did pocahontas". Unfortunately accidentally leaving out the word "meet". Fatal mistake in front of a class of teenagers.
Fun fact: My 8th grade social studies teacher hated the historical inaccuracies in Pocahontas so much, that one week she got bored, rented the movie, and had us pick out all the errors.
@@icheeva1 pretty fucked up to make a movie about a person who tragically dies as well as her people and act like everything turns out fine. Can you imagine if someone did that with anne frank?
And especially: the North-Korean animators like lasers. Probably because of that allows them to make action scenes while using lazy still-images of the characters lmao.
I know the comment's a month old, but let me tell you one thing. It was running even in Russia in early 2010-s. Along with Simba King lion, we had one hell of a childhood
@@sourpetals1823 my dude, after I learned about the horrible things that have happened in Asian Culture, I firmly believe Pocahontas got off real easy. She could have been on the wrong side of Nan King for example
The real-life Pocahontas never really saved John Smith, actually. She was twelve years old, he was middle-aged, and her father, the chieftain, was holding a ceremony to welcome Smith to America and convert him to a member of their tribe. In this ritual, Smith was supposedly "killed" and then "reborn" as a member of the Pamunkey. They acted out this whole ceremony in their native language, and Pocahontas simply acted the role of bringing Smith back to life as a Native American. Of course, Smith had no idea what was going on and thought he was about to be actually killed (instead of pretend killed) and thought that Pocahontas actually saved him instead of just playing her part, which is what he went on to tell all the other settlers.
Pocahontas was also kidnapped and sent off to England where she was, raped and became pregnant before being forced into marriage by her captor, she also had to change her name and religion where she lived under her new Christian name “Rebecca”. Years later Rebecca (Pocahontas) had fallen ill and died without ever seeing her father and tribe again.
Because I can't stand repeated historical falsehoods, I'm going to way in. There is NO historical evidence that Pocahontas was either raped or kidnapped. Most of the circumstances around her life are uncertain, but the earliest thing that mentions her being raped is in a 2007 book that supposedly came from an oral tradition. Any mistreatment of Pocahontas, who kind of became an unofficial diplomat, would have gone against the interests of the English in their negotiations with Powhatan. Her conversion to Anglicanism and marriage to the Englishman John Rolfe (who, from a transcript of a surviving letter asking permission to marry her, actually really loved her) helped end the First Anglo-Powhatan War. Her travelling to England was just as political - as a sort of success story of the Virginia colony.
Zolenge B. Pocahontas most certainly did save John Smith. Chief Powhatan was about to execute John Smith with a club by bashing his head in with it, but Pocahontas, whom had saved him and the Colonists from starvation and was a regularly visiting friend of their children as well, placed her head upon his. This was not a welcoming ritual. She did this, because she claimed to have had a dream vision of her saving John Smith. It is because she was so trusting of John Smith that the Powhatans began peacefully communicating with the Colonists. They made treaties and began trade, but Chief Powhatan proved to be too aggressive in the long run. It’s truly a shame that he did not value Pocahontas more than “old swords, pieces, or axes”. Had she been Chiefest or if Powhatan would have listened to his daughter, things would have remained peaceful.
questions: THREE QUESTIONS 1. Why is North Korea making Pocahontas if they hate the USA? 2. How do they even have money for animation studios in a dictatorship? 3. Does North Korea like Italy if they're working for Mondo TV?
1. Because USA is white people who killed the natives, who lived a communal lifestyle. So, North Korean logic goes : natives opposed US imperialism. We oppose US imperialism. Therefore we should be friends with the Native Americans. This warped sense of logic also had some in the nazi party idolize the native Americans despite their notorious racism, and think they'd find common cause, only for the Sioux to beat the USA to the punch when it came to declaring war on Nazi Germany. 2. Because we in the west are very good at outsourcing menial tasks to impoverished 2nd world nations where labour is cheap. It worked for China. And it's not like North Korea has any scrupples. Who's going to tell the Party they're wrong to do so? 3. Because Italy doesn't have the same mutually sustained hate-boner North Korea and the United States have for eachother.
@@cdcdrr "Because Italy doesn't have the same mutually sustained hate-boner North Korea and the United States have for eachother." Well, it's not as much talked into media, but Italy was one of those who sent troops to fight North Korea during Korean war. Italy and North Korea opened diplomatic relations in 2000, however in 2017 Italy expelled North Korean ambassador and their ties are pretty much non-existent at the moment. I actually find it rather strange that North Korea seems only to hate USA and only USA, when there were alot of countries that fought against North Koreans during the war. Maybe North Korean propaganda simply pictured all UN soldiers as yanks, because they just made the perfect opposite for them.
1. They mostly hate white USA and see natives and blacks as oppressed fighters and possible allies (not so theoretically weird if you ask me) 2. Why not? Both Third Reich and USSR had animation departments and studios, USSR ones being the most developed and artistically accomplished 3. Yes. While the majority of Italian Communists didn't particularly appreciate DPRK/NK's deranged brand of communism, some Communist factions and splinter groups did so they established ties with Kim Il-Sung and NK cultural departments, even inviting party cadres or traditional ballet dancers to Italian Communist festivals
I hate to tell you this but there is a sequel to this where she is just straight up dead and they follow her son around as he explores this crazy version of America. It showed on Kidsco, a weird channel that aired foreign children’s films and shows like a story boarded Beauty and the Beast, Prince Sun and Princess Moon (where I kid you not, they buried a girl alive and she died and every other main character died at the end) and Sonic Underground
JoGeJo kind of? It was a collaboration but most of the animators were French, it was dubbed in French and released in France by a French company that had a large role in it development. So not really but I still count it as foreign
KidsCo... The channel that introduced me to some of DiC's cartoons. (Yes, Sonic Underground is one of them) Though if it's wasn't for that channel I wouldn't have a chance to watch Inspector Gadget as kid so there's that.
Nicolaus Volentius No she wasn’t. There are so many tribes, and her father was the chief of one of them. That’s like saying that Prince William is the Prince of Europe.
Nicolaus Volentius I think you’re misunderstanding me. The video calls Pocahontas the “Princess of American Indians”, calling her the princess of all the different tribes. I’m saying that that isn’t true. She was the chieftain’s daughter of ONE tribe.
@Nicolaus Volentius That’s not the point you were making before, but regardless, I don’t think it’s absurd at all. I made a simple statement: That she was the “princess”(chieftain’s daughter) of one tribe, not all of them. Alliances and Federations have not thing to do with what I’m saying. I’m starting to get the impression that you simply want to argue, and that isn’t something I want to put any more energy into. Goodbye.
@@naranara1690 You're damn right, in the oral traditions passed down the generations (and somehow spread across all tribes) we all know that she fucking summoned animals to blast the shit out a whale. The truth has been exposed!!
clearly.... they must be into the whole "I'ma firein ma laser" gag routine. that must relate to them as the meme of "in soviet Russia(insert whatever thing here)You!" relates to Russia. . . . . what? too convoluted? so No then?(lol)
I'm a choctaw and absentee shawnee (Native American) and grew up in Oklahoma and i can tell you this... This ain't the worst representation of our culture.
I'm pretty sure the Pocahontas movie is literally just the episodes of the show cut together into one 90 minute movie. At least that's the case with Mondo's Jungle Book "movie".
Sounds like what Disney did with animated “sequels” like Bells magical world, Cinderella 2, and Atlantis 2 were all originally going to be tv shows but didn’t fall through, so they re-edited them to be movies. Also Fun fact on the Atlantis one, there was for really to be a crossover with the Gargoyles show with them in the same universe.
Hugs 1 second: awww 2 seconds: thats nice 3 seconds: ok you can let go now 4 seconds: this is really pushing it 5 seconds: never get this long unless it's something really dramatic and your talking. 6 seconds: jesus christ, get a room.
@@stasia6103 *HALLO, WE CAN ALL AGREE WITH THIS. PLUS WHEN YOU HAVE HALF A BOTTLE OF FOUNDATION LEFT BUT THE SQUIRTY THING DOESN'T WORK SO YOU HAVE TO OPEN THE BOTTLE.*
In childhood i loved all those mondo tv programs... In india simba the king lion, Cinderella,zorro,great book of nature, christopher colombus and sandokan were very famous
From a Native American viewpoint: It was Tecumseh who tried to unite the tribes to fight the Colonials. There also 6 Nations of the Iroquois (there would be 7 but the Cherokee moved south); Mohawk, Oneida, Seneca, Onondonga, Cayuga and Tuscarora. If we Cherokees had stayed, we would have been Oyatageronon, the people who lived in caves. And why oh why did he hire the same guy who played the dad from the Titanic animated movie. I give it points for realism, but it is not for kids.
Waya525 they did a better job with clothing and names then a lot of American cartoons that’s for sure. Those shows seem to do zero research so yes they do get a few points in my book for that. Also, seeing the kachinas shoot laser beams was awesome. But could’ve definitely been better lol
Well, historically speaking, Native American tribes were no more buddy-buddy with each other than European nations were with each other. They had different languages and belief systems, fought wars between tribes, and all that good stuff - long before 'the pale face' came along. You can put a river or you can put an ocean between em, but humans will still be humans.
Let’s see - Inca, Aztec, and Toltecs do conduct imperialism and militarism. - Native Americans in North though. They tend to be 50-50, where “peace” usually means less raids and skirmishes than usual. - also the lack of common language, which the Pocahontas understand let along initiate talks.
You always talk about how they speak over each other but i feel like thats the ONLY accurate thing about this studios content. Thats how people really talk. It actually sounds natural to me....I cant understand it but realisticly, in a heated conversation, nobody waits for the other person to finish their "line" before talking lol
I think they did a better job than Americans with clothing and character drawings. And it was pretty cool to see kachinas shoot laser beams. I’m actually happy they didn’t just stick with the tired route of Native people being merely earth loving nature people. I’d like to see more cartoons like this, from our own native animators
Non per rivangare il triste presente, ma questi stanno pure dietro alla produzione di Adrian a quanto ho capito. Quando metti insieme Italia e Nord Corea, non può uscire nulla di buono 😅
At least it's not the Mondo World Young Warriors episode of The Hunchback of Notre Dame. Dear God...what they did with that goat... I really want Phelous and Saberspark to review that episode. They'd both snap so hard. 🤯
oh dang, this was really weird being native myself. I was surprised at 10:56 and 11:05, that was a Trickster Kachina (Pueblo Clown, Jester Kachina, you get the idea) which is seen within my tribes, Pueblo Laguna and Hopi. I was honest to god surprised by the amount of research they put into the designs of the tribes.
That’s fascinating. Considering how they portray other races and cultures I was expecting a completely stereotypical and ugly representation, but this is... not as awful as it could have been.
It's a pity they couldn't maintain consistency and apparently had the Europeans wearing late 18th century uniforms. I'm pretty sure the Americas were not conquered by Napoleon Bonaparte.
Imagine being at the studio. "The italians ordered something again. This time they want the lion king.... but with eye lasers... chop chop pali pali get to work.
8:07 I love how the magic she is shooting out of her arms is making the recoil of a machine gun and that she is absorbing 100% in her shoulders and 0% in her elbows.
10:53 it’s lacrosse or, as it was called back then, the medicine sport. In the culture of the Native Americans it was used as a game to play instead of full on war between two or more tribes. I just thought that you would like to know that. I am a lacrosse player and a history nerd, so that is how I know that. (Sorry if all the information is not exactly correct.)
@@Steven9567 In the northern western tribes, that is what is was called. It was call something very similar in other regions. It was originally created by the Cherokee and most peoples used that name in the north western regions. Most of the native Americans in the northwestern regions were actually quite close as well. In the west is were they were more spread out.
@@Steven9567 The games were. Their feuds not so much. That was until they made peace treaties. And I never said it was peaceful, I just said it was their substitute for a full on war.
0:01..Wait.. Did I just watch pocahontas summon 5 spirit animals on Noah's arc which used their limit breaker attack on a killer whale... greatest cartoon of all times... 🤯
The classic tale of Pocahontas... you know, the story where animals shoot lasers out of their head with random furry transformations and ghost like spirits.
Actually it’s a tv series instead of a film, but it does have a film predecessor (also produced by Corradi), which is more faithful to the actual story.
Honestly the disney Pocahontas film isn’t that bad. Yeah it’s inaccurate with history, but if take that away and see it as a stand-alone movie, it’s not that bad
I agree. I personally really like the film despite the inaccuracies. It's a well-done film in terms of animation, songs, and memorable characters (that were historically inspired).
If you consider it as purely hypothetical-change the names of the characters and set it in some distant, far-off, fairytale world (like what Avatar does), then it works. It’s a solid story because Disney was very good at those back then, and it’s not mean-spirited. It’s just inaccurate, which is where the harm comes from. I think it’s an enjoyable movie, you just need to be aware and respectful when it comes to the truth of what happened.
@@ginogatash4030 Because, despite being on opposite ends of the political spectrum, the result of both is very similar in many ways: totalitarian dictatorship with widespread suffering. Really, the main difference is probably that the communists have more famines and the fascists have more ethnic purges.
@@maximsavage fascism doesn't necessarely include anti semitism, in fact before facist italy allied with nazi germany in WW2 there were many jews in the army. they were racist sure, but because it was the 20's and it was popular back then, it wasn't necessarely part of the ideology, "fascism" it self was just a specific dictatorship, it had nothing different from any other non communist regime.
I agree, but then I recall hearing rumors they kidnap animators from japan and force them to make cartoons. Then we have the whole 'korean boats filled with dead japanese people' thing and I start drawing some scary lines.
