What Was Paul's View of Salvation? It's Not What You Think! 

I haven't watched the video but I have a question for Tabor. You mention Hellenistic philosophy plays a large role in the ideas of Paul. However, the first 40 pages of Schweitzer's book on Paul, plays that idea down. Do you have a difference of opinion with Schweitzer's premise regarding this?

The interviewer interrupts and talks excessively at times which is a bit distracting. Good otherwise.

Sorry, I like your work, but soon after the first hour commercials started coming about every four to five minutes. This made it virtually unlistenable/unwatchable. I quit watching after the third time. One thought isn’t even finished before a commercial comes in and breaks the flow. Surely this must be a mistake. How about one commercial every 15 minutes or so? Thanks.

The Jews do NOT say that Moses was the "last one". Deuteronomy 18:18 comes out and says that there will be another: Deut. 18:18 - I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. The Jews know the scriptures better than you give them credit.

Oh my &&&, I love this stuff. Why couldn't I have discovered this 20 years ago? Dr.Tabor, thanks for uploading SO MUCH! You're given us (viewers, followers) your time, energy, intellect, and patience again and again. This is your life's work; thank you for giving it to the world. I'm so glad you're not a snobby academic (I can say that because I am one!)

Hmm, about Jesus' divinity... How about: "And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was." John 17:5 ?? From the mouth of the Lord Jesus Himself. And this: "God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds;" Hebrews 1:1‭-‬2 And lastly this: "He said to them, “How then does David in the Spirit call Him ‘Lord,’ saying: ‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool” ’? If David then calls Him ‘Lord,’ how is He his Son?” And no one was able to answer Him a word, nor from that day on did anyone dare question Him anymore." Matthew 22:43‭-‬46 I appreciate the conversation, but I see some eisegesis.

Old Covenant Baptism vs. New Covenant Baptism (water vs. Spirit) Water baptism was a part of the Old Covenant system of ritual washing. The Old Covenant priests had to wash before beginning their service in the temple. (Ex. 30:17-30) When Christ was water baptized by His cousin John in the Jordan River, He was under the Old Covenant system. He also only ate certain foods, and wore certain clothes, as prescribed by the 613 Old Covenant laws. Christ was water baptized by John and then the Holy Spirit came from heaven. The order is reversed in the New Covenant. A person receives the Holy Spirit upon conversion, and then believers often declare their conversion to their friends and family through a water baptism ceremony. Which baptism makes you a member of Christ’s Church? The New Covenant conversion process is described below. (Born-again) Eph 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, (A person must “hear” the Gospel, and “believe” the Gospel, and will then be “sealed” with the Holy Spirit.) Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. (See Jer. 31:34 for the New Covenant promise, and 1 John 2:27 for the fulfillment) ============ Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says? What did Peter say below? Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning. Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water when they read the word "baptize" in the text. Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage? Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (See 1 Cor. 12:13) “baptize” KJV Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Water or Holy Spirit?, See Eph. 1-13.) Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire: Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. (See Eph. 4:1-5) Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (Old Covenant ----> New Covenant) How many people have been saved by the Old Covenant water baptism of John the Baptist? Who did John the Baptist say is the greatest Baptist that ever lived in Luke 3:16? What kind of New Covenant baptism comes from Christ? Hebrews 9:10 Old Covenant vs. New Covenant (CSB) They are physical regulations and only deal with food, drink, and various washings imposed until the time of the new order. (ESV) but deal only with food and drink and various washings, regulations for the body imposed until the time of reformation. (ESV+) but deal only with R5food and drink and R6various washings, regulations for the body imposed until the time of reformation. (Geneva) Which only stood in meates and drinkes, and diuers washings, and carnal rites, which were inioyned, vntill the time of reformation. (GW) These gifts and sacrifices were meant to be food, drink, and items used in various purification ceremonies. These ceremonies were required for the body until God would establish a new way of doing things. (KJV) Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (KJV+) Which stood onlyG3440 inG1909 meatsG1033 andG2532 drinks,G4188 andG2532 diversG1313 washings,G909 andG2532 carnalG4561 ordinances,G1345 imposedG1945 on them untilG3360 the timeG2540 of reformation.G1357 (NKJV) concerned only with foods and drinks, various washings, and fleshly ordinances imposed until the time of reformation. (NLT) For that old system deals only with food and drink and various cleansing ceremonies-physical regulations that were in effect only until a better system could be established. (YLT) only in victuals, and drinks, and different baptisms, and fleshly ordinances-till the time of reformation imposed upon them . ================================================================================ New Covenant Whole Gospel: Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. Watch the RU-vid videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.

So in the next life I get to be 6 ft two with hair and a life supply of steroids. A mansion over the hilltop plus a crown of gold. I wonder if there's going to be pizza beer and hookah? Really enjoyed the lecture. Thanks for your time.

Paul's "thorn in the flesh" was the people who followed him around preaching against what he was teaching. 2 Corinthians 12 needs to be read in light of the couple chapters before. These people were casting doubt on Paul's apostleship. This was no small problem.

Thank you, Mr. Tabor for great interesting information. Greg

My understanding of Paul is that be believes that we are body, soul, and spirit, and when the body dies the spirit returns to God who gave it, and the soul of a person who has received salvation through faith in Jesus experiences itself in God's presence but not yet having received the glorified resurrected body which they will receive during the resurrection Paul speaks about when Christ returns and those who died in faith in Christ will receive and be instantly "clothed" with their new glorified resurrected bodies, and those who have not died will be instantly changed and be with the Lord in their new immortal glorified resurrected bodies, and so all who have died IN Christ through faith, love, and received salvation in his name, and those who are still alive at Jesus return, will go to their heavenly home with the Lord. In John 14:1-6 Jesus said to his disciples that he was returning to his heavenly Father to prepare a mansion for them, and would return to take them there so they would be with him forever. He told them he was the way, the truth and the life. He said he was the only way to the Father ( the source of eternal life, and of all truth of existence and life fully lived and experienced in the eternal presence of the Father and in intimate relationship as sons of the Father, born into the fullness of life as sons of God receiving full inheritance from the Father of his true nature, into which they are reborn and received through faith in Christ). God bless you Dr. Tabor,. Thank you for sharing your understanding with us. Please consider my understanding in all of this, and share your thoughts on it.

Luke quotes Paul as follows: Acts 20:28 - Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. God purchased the church with His own blood, eh? I thought it was Jesus? If Jesus is not divine then Paul has a theological problem and so does Luke, by extension. The New Testament writers (with the possible exception of James, the brother of Jesus) understood that Jesus is divine.

Great content, although the constant camera flicking from one person to the other is disrupting my concentration ... Could it be reset so it's only on the person speaking at the time? - Or maybe this is just me??

James Tabor is shooting from the hip again. Jesus, he claims, is not the "Logos" spoken about in the Gospel of John. My question then is, who is the Logos in 1 John 1:1? 1 Jn. 1:1 - That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; Who is the Logos of God in Revelation 19? Rev. 19:13 - And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. John is the ONLY New Testament writer who calls Jesus "the Word". Furthermore, John the Baptist sure thought Jesus was the pre-existent One: John 1:30 - This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me. John was born before Jesus. How was Jesus "before me"? James Tabor is all wet when it comes to the New Testament. He doesn't know half of it and the half he does know, he doesn't believe. He's a fraud and I prove it over and over again.

Though I don't agree with all the conclusions, this is actually an outstanding discussion.

This is how completely clueless this guy is. He said, "I don't believe Jesus is God even in John." (at the 1:06:00 mark) John 17:5 - And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. It's this "round trip idea". Seriously, is Bart Ehrman that bad? These jokers seem like birds of a feather.

Has anyone else taken a moment to be gobsmacked by the idea that a man as ignorant of reality and captured by the strangest of ideas as Paul is, as described by Dr. Tabor, comes to have his ideas rule the world for two millennia? Incredible. I think we really should punctuate every hour of conversation by the recognition that Paul's ideas are, from our viewpoint, preposterous.

As always a very thoughtful inputs on Paul, I think Dr. Tabor is the best when it comes to Paul.

A fun (but dangerous) game to play on Tabor videos is to have a drink every time he says ‘so forth’ (not recommended for non-alcoholics 😀) Just teasing Dr Tabor, love your work, always fascinating

DR Tabor, I have listened and watched your lectures & interactions with other professors and I am astonished by your intellect. Your memory is hugely perfected. Thank you so very VERY much for sharing your lifetime of scholarship with those of us who have not had the opportunity for following your path. God bless you ✝️ & keep you safe.

Very, very interesting. I intend on re-watching this video several more times in addition to getting your books.

The interviewer would be doing his show a service by talking less.

One of his best prophecies was that BS RU-vid wafflers would remain in the fires of he'll forever.

You do not know that early C=hristians were slain when forced to bow to the knee and give homage to the Emporer?? BECAUSE THE MAGICAL WORD THEY WOULD NOT SAY- WAS KURIOUS? So you are wrong that Christians thought that Kurios had no special meaning- It meant LORD, and that there is only one!! JESUS CHRIST.

Here's an idea. Did Paul have a near death experience? Was he " struck down" by some physical crisis or ailment ( consider why he became blind?) a physical ailment? Many NDEs feel they met Jesus or someone similar, would make sense.

Pharisee Paul, Herodian Paul, Edomite Paul... whatever he said was the devil's doctrine

Paul was a con man. As Joseph Smith was with his visions and mysterious (fake) things he “witnessed” in his delusions, Paul was the same.

Paul is one reason God hates Esau, Edomite, Herodian...but many reasons like Esau taking two Canaanite wives...

This guy interrupts tabor to much! They always do! They gotta be seen and heard! Tabor much better to listen to on his own!

This is exactly what we search the books to learn about! Thank you! does this have anything to do with the temple of the venerated Julio Cesar ?

Sorry but God was manifest in the flesh and there is only one God the Father ! The word WAS GOD and the word BECAME FLESH. This is the true biblical Jesus . Sola Scriptura.

I don't know about you, but I learned from O.T. these three: the mouth of the pit, the sides of the pit and the bottom. There is an antithesis of wisdom; and the floor of her house "inclineth" unto death. Right? The sliding board to Hell. This stands in contrast to the kingdom of God. The heaven, heavens, heaven of heaven and most high heaven are just one analogy of the pattern of all things. The birds, the mountains, the trees, many things align with the pattern of all things. Of course! Because the tabernacle pattern was received from God. Whenever you see references to the pattern, the word cluster appears. If the language breaks away, it probably isn't breathed by God who makes no mistakes. I've no doubt that God revealed himself in earlier times than Abraham. At Babel it would seem that men had determined how to acquire the positions and gifts that bring power. However, the warning of "Beware lest ye fall" is to be understood. And let us not forget what redefining the meaning of words can do. Sometimes Babel gave levels of understanding to a word, but when no means yes, there are problems. I have found everything necessary in the Word. It is imperative to read "as if" you believe. If you do that you are "almost" there. Instead of losing faith the result can be deeper faith. I wish I could learn every day. Call me crazy, but 3 shells with the electon drawn by cords of love to a proton is remarkable in my mind. But the intellectuals immediately want to say that it must be a mistake. Every time a teacher tells you that there must be a mistake, there is something wonderful to learn. Job gives us strata of the sky like the pattern of all things. Lightning comes from the snow clouds and this is the language of the most high God. These are word cluster ideas allowing you to understand the person and power of God. Things like Frost, hail, sparks of fire, lightning and, most important, the still small voice. I'm sure you understand the meanings behind clothing--things like that are important. It is all in the word of God. Above all we should seek the face of God. Grace will enable us to love more with each court. 🚚 ❤ sending love!

If you read the Bible at the beginning, you will see that Adam and Eve could have lived forever if they hadn't eaten from the tree. God told them, if you eat from the tree, you will die. that means, if they dont eat, they will live. And the devil in no way tells Eve that she would live forever if she eats from the tree. He tells her that she will become like God. that's a difference. you are twisting the scriptures God had also said in the beginning, let us make man in our image. So in his appearance, hand foot head. But that doesn't mean that all people should have existed from the beginning, you're philosophizing the writings to pieces. You can tell that you don't have the holy spirit living in you. You yourself confess in the video: I am not a confessing Christian.

First The books weren't written to you. 2nd The Spirit neither. So how come y'all always commenting on Anything spiritual? 3rd Y'all's father changed the books and painted your likeness in the books. So no, I don't care how much you study or what spirit you think you have, it's not the same one of The true scripture written to the true Hebrew Israelite bloodline humans. You're just not qualified. You can't possibly be trusted to speak truth regarding My Creator.

Tabor can't use scripture to explain scripture. For example the Old Testament prophesied what New Testament witnesses saw that affirmed Christs body did not see corruption. He is not taking things like that into consideration, why ? - can't he see......

What? You're not a confessing Christian, farewell sir, I don't take lessons in Christianity from an unbeliever

Matthew 1:23 “Behold, a virgin shall be with child and shall bring forth a Son, and they shall call His name Emmanuel” (which being interpreted is, “God with us”).

One thing I find very fascinating about Christianity is how so many people spend their time disproving it. Funny.

blah blah blah blah, blabbering empty nonsense. not even in line with the purpose as delineated by the title. total incoherence. offensive indeed.

Tabor is misinterpreting St. Paul. Paul did believe Jesus Christ pre-existed and he also believed Jesus Christ was not just human, but was also divine. I fear that Tabor is helping to lead a lot of undecided and doubtful people into hell by his false teachings.

As a Illinois resident may I say no one....no one south of the city of Chicago likes it or what they have done to our state. I won't hold that against the professor however....

I understand you believe Jesus was another failed messiah who followed John the baptist and that the prophecy he believed in did not come to pass. Pretty grim read on our Lord. He believed he was here for Israel. Paul reached out to the world and certainly accomplished what he believed was his mission. You could be wrong in your beliefs about Jesus if so you are working against God and with Satan.

David wrote it this way... Adonai said to my Adonei... sit, here at my right hand, until I gather your enemies/adversaries under your feet...

Jesus was not another God he was God manifest in flesh as the man Jesus, only one God the Father who been manifest in flesh as the sacrificial lamb FOR to reconcile is people with him. The trinitarians are wrong Jesus been begotten by the one and only true God our Father.

Once you brought up the heliocentric model with all the nonsensical spinning balls hurtling through space (a place none of us will ever go to) I shut it down.

Adam and Eve did not want eternal life they wanted * knowledge * otherwise they would have eaten from the tree of life - also in The Garden Eden (and later guarded so that sinfulness did not become eternal) - and not from the tree of knowledge.

Any particular reason it was 33 years ? Your retirement. Thanks 🙏

Dr Tabor is great! Go Niners!

Hmmm, The Messiah was human born to a woman who was a descendant of David, but He was *not* of the seed of David because he was not of the seed of man.

read john 1.1 and john 1.14 JESUS is God and exist allways.

James Tabor needs a better internet connection so I can hear all the details 😅 Learning alot from what I am hearing

WHAT MATTER IS THE TESTIMONY OF GOD YEHOVAH AND NOT THE OPINION OF PAUL OR ANY OTHER PER

Re: 28:05 (the "ascent toll booths"): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Sl-byRubvNo.html

The personal touch (how brave) Thank you!

HOW DARE YOU SAY PAUL HAD A LOW CHRISTOLOGY ?? Romans ONE : concerning his Son, who was descended from David according to the flesh 4 and who was as declared to be the Son of God iin power according to the Spirit of holiness by his resurrection from the dead, Jesus Christ our Lord, 5 through whom we have received grace and apostleship lto bring about I demand a retraction the same way Paul declares he was more than a man, ie He fulfilled the Davidic line- then DECLARED TO BE THE SON OF GOD WITH POWER? Paul tells us Christ is "in a unique way THE Son of God- Not in the way IN NO WAY IS HE TALKING ABOUT "Christians" Then there is the JESUS OUR LORD " You know the one things Christians would NOT DO is bow to the Caesar as "LORD" but they did to Christ. You take 40 years of Scholorship and Testify wrongly on Paul's "Lord : is just a man? Your statement is incredible

Is the argument that paul is saying jesus is not God?

Paul's thorn may have been nocturnal emission?

You have to be anointed prophet to be able to decipher what was said by God! He sent prophets! NOT archeologists! NOT scholars! NOT teachers! Prophets from God! Don’t you read that book you call Gods word!? The only reason they can’t comprehend it is because Cain and Satan toiled together in those different caves for years trying to get the stories just right, so people who were not anointed would drink it all up! That is the truth! That is why archaeologists and teachers cannot explain why the scrolls are in the caves and where they came from, they can only speculate about them! Cain was cursed to walk the earth with Satan until judgment! These are the last days! Better pay attention to what God is saying!

There are not 7 level, but you could say 7 steps

11:32 we can also believe in fantasy 😂

There is nothing Greek that has an ''out of the cosmos creator '' Period. Not even o creator God This is why Plato is not too Greek to say it politely. Christianity is a soup made to please everyone. When everything is everything then everything is nothing. No surprise both we Greeks and the Jews ''hate'' it.

You made me LOL when you said, “[a] [person] can put anything together.”

Hey!!!! What happened to the Isaiah teaching chapter 40 to 66.... I was halfway thru and it stopped and disappeared

Brilliant as always lol.

Earth is not a sphere! Good golly!

There’s only one logos,and he was never flesh

Isaiah 40-66 An Unfulfilled Dream. An excellent presentation video Dr. Tabor. It was pulled down. I hope you put it back up! I forwarded it to many people who are wanting to watch! ❤

Repurpose the old clothes

A lot of what’s talked about early on in the meat of this discussion, reminds me of modern spirituality. There is a belief that the planets are also heavenly bodies with their own energies and purpose; the view goes beyond the idea of the mechanistic universe. Also, Paul’s description of the “heavens” reminds me of the idea of dimensions. The ascent to higher dimensions allows a being to remember/ more intensely experience the connection with god, source, creation, etc. The lower realms are cut off from the divine with the realms beneath us being fully disconnected, while we simply forget that connection to the divine on the earthly realm. There are beings on all of the levels, including angels and other exalted forms.

As for Paul’s “thorn in the flesh”, some modern medical professionals have put shingles as a quite likely condition, especially since the physical trauma Paul experienced (being thrown of a cliff and stoned comes to mind…) exacerbate shingles - quite literally the feeling of a thorn in the flesh. My wife has fibromyalgia, which is very painful as well.

Congrats on your retirement!!

Beam me up Scottie

You have to understand that the word in the beginning was THE EXPRESSION OF ELOHIM and not another God. The first Adam was from the earth but the second Adam was from Heaven ( God in flesh or Word became flesh) Jesus was entirely human as a man but as God manifest in flesh as a man he was also divine by the Spirit in him and not by the flesh.The Spirit it's the Father in him who perform all the miracles Jesus as a simple man cannot do this.

It had to be 33 yrs. Hmmmm

The Creator would not violate His own Law. The First-Third commandments are all about 1 Creator and to Him * only * we owe reverence and adoration. If The Messiah gets our reverence and adoration is because The Messiah is YHWH.

On the beach Jesus was preparing fish he already had. The eyes of John were not "holden" and he saw Jesus. I asked God why 152 fish. The bed of coals was for the destruction of "the great ones" of the Philistine Lords. You need to check a lexicon for the Dagon scene. 144 + 8 + 1. And you can also see the differences between the 2 floors and the slew. Sometimes you just need to ask.

Tabor is making up his own paul based on total lack of faith which paul had and his sophomoric brand of intelligence HE IS SPEAKING LIKE PAUL BEGIRE DAMASCUS

I recommend Teilhatd de Chardin and his book on the „Cosmic Christ“, where he talks about Christ Consciousness and the Christification not only of the whole human race but of the whole cosmos. The final aim of creation and matter is the conscious deification of of the physical plane in order to become the true image of God in Christ Jesus, the second Adam. 🙏

Even modern astrophysics maps layers from the earth out, from the sun out. Imagining a correlation between physical states and mental/conscious/spiritual states, is it necessary to look at ‘Paul’s cosmology’ as naive? (as an artist I tend to think of physical & imaginative/metaphorical experiences with such correlations (or objective correspondences, as t.s. Eliot said)

Great background for discussing both the aerial tollhouses of (Russian) Orthodoxy as well as the magical exorcistic practices that eventually became the european grimoire/necromantic tradition. Not only does, say, the Heptameron, acknowledge the existence of these beings and heavenly spheres, it proposes methods of compelling them to do your will. In the name of Christ, of course.

I hold that the initial Creation was good... it was established to be a forever thing... What happened? The transgression(s)... now, that which was meant to bless, would be cursed... now was 'death' introduced... the 'natural' was now 'out of order'... there were some exceptions... Enoch... Noah... Job... just to mention a few... The 'destruction of all flesh on the land' (fish were not affected... 'Dagon... Dagon... Dagon' - in Ben Stein's 'Bueller's voice) and the 'reorganization of the 'land' while it is submerged... I hold that a way of Salvation was in place for those who would fall... 'Before the foundations of the earth were laid - (or planned)'. Since there is now way for the present earth to be 'redeemed', a new heaven (huh? what was up with the old one?) and a new earth... and the New Jerusalem (City of YHWH), too! No sun, for the Light (Presence of the Most High in the midst of His City) will provide the light... No more night - no need for a mood or stars... Day... and now since 'there is no more time', for the rest of (for resurrected/transformed humans - not all who are now present were participants in the 1st Resurrection - I hold that not all who came forth during the 2nd resurrection were cast into the Lake of Fire (lake of/for destruction) - and not all that were born during the 1000 year reign of The Son of David (over the land of Israel) were killed during the final release of Hasatan - at the end of the thousand years... for the final testing of (the un-resurrected) people and the final judgement of YHWH against Hasatan (and his destruction by YHWH). For the old, there was no 'renewal'... therefore the New.

Paul? Who needs him. P-tui

James, have you never considered that you may have researched actual history rather than the wishful thinking of a primitive culture that has no evidence to confirm its even possibly true?

I’ve been on a Tabor marathon as of late, not just watching his lectures on RU-vid but reading every book of his I can get my hands on. Wonderful stuff

as i always point out, the native american prophet Wovoka, also had an ascent into heaven where the Dead Indians told him in no more than three years God would intervene in Human history, kick the white people out of north america, etc. time-life books said this is a continuing motif in human history, when societies are overwhelmed, a shamanic person emerges with the answers. wovoka had a predecessor named wodziwob, who went up on a mountain and had six visions. these native American prophets are a window into what really happened in ancient times.

Nobody finds it odd that this "gospel" that "Yeshua" gave to Paul was so different than The Gospel that was taught to the actual Twelve Apostles by Yeshua and that Paul's "Yeshua" didn't go to the actual Twelve Apostles and let them know that The Gospel was being changed ???? If you read Matthew 24:24-26 and Acts 3:21 you'd see that it wasn't Yeshua on the road to Damascus , it was the same FALSE CHRIST that Yeshua said would come , claiming to be Him and not to believe him

This sounds like a near death experience.

Salvation is FAITH, HOPE, and LOVE in the BLOOD of CHRISIS!!! LLLLLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😀😃😄😁😆

At 1:12:39 Dr. Tabor says, "I'm not a confessing Christian...." Did I hear this comment correctly? If he's not, this so sad and I will jo longer listen to Dr. Tabor.

At 47:00 you ask the pivotal question - why the crucifixion? Paul couldn't quite figure it out, but a man named Rene Girard did and you can read a summary of that explanation in his book "I See Satan Fall Like Lightning". Explains everything!

I would love your opinion on brother Johnathan Kleck an his view on Genesis 1 vs 2 and his biblical view

The holy writings of gnostic or the later hundreds of year that it took to make Christian Bible not just books but more what was in those books and how they were translated according to their theology as that developed

Check out the history of the lost language of Hebrew .Google it.put that in context

I can’t wait to play soccer again in my spiritual body! Run a sub 5.0 forty yard dash again too!

What is called gnostic by the haters but considered Paul the only real apostle .

How annoying that the host keeps interrupting his guest! 😢

I would speculate that the principality harassing him is stirring up the mobs against him and that angel was his thorn in the flesh.

Food for thought. 🤔( Green Fire UK ) 🌈🦉

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