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When Do I Ask About Pay During an Interview? 

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When Do I Ask About Pay During an Interview?
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@nathangilbert5297
@nathangilbert5297 3 года назад
Couldn't you argue it's the employer who has a take no give attitude if they're just talking about their wants and expectations but not pay? It's a job, I'm here for the pay, why tip toe around that?
@obo2999
@obo2999 3 года назад
Do you think you are the only one interviewing?
@nathangilbert5297
@nathangilbert5297 3 года назад
@@obo2999 exactly
@lr4454
@lr4454 3 года назад
Agree!!!
@nicholeknight1893
@nicholeknight1893 3 года назад
Facts!!!!!
@GP-tb6zd
@GP-tb6zd 3 года назад
100%
@cyberguypr
@cyberguypr 3 года назад
Potential employers don't get any of my precious time if they don't disclose at least a range upfront. It's not 1960.
@Joseph565112
@Joseph565112 3 года назад
Yes. If it’s gonna be salaried then have to be careful as is..could end up working 60 hours for 40 hour pay.
@lgray1967
@lgray1967 3 года назад
I totally agree!!!
@costco_pizza
@costco_pizza 3 года назад
@cyberguypr Sounds like a "taker" mentality. You need to accept whatever they will give you at the time they decide to hire you. Go into the interview all about what you can give, not what you can take.
@lgray1967
@lgray1967 3 года назад
@@costco_pizza I know my worth!!
@cyberguypr
@cyberguypr 3 года назад
@@costco_pizza Of course is about what value an employer will get out of me. However, it makes zero sense to invest time if they are looking to pay say $70k and I determine my rate to be $120k. To what other's said, I know my worth and don't want them or myself to waste time if we are not in the same ballpark.
@ryugurena3327
@ryugurena3327 3 года назад
An interview isn't just a company seeing if you're worth it. You are also there to judge whether or not they are worth your time as well. I wish I had known this before and maybe I would be working in a better place
@CarlGorn
@CarlGorn 3 года назад
The interview is just one source of information. You could also do research about the company and the position by going through news articles, social media, even contacting their HR ahead of time and seeing if that department will disclose the range. I once knew a guy who found out what food truck parks down the block from the company he was looking at. Paid the truck owner $50 to be a cashier for a day to suss out what the company is really like.
@AA-wu2fk
@AA-wu2fk 2 года назад
@Ryugu true,you got to know when the job is gonna benefit you or not,you have to be greedy,after all It's your life and you do what you can to make it better for you
@LucianaCristinadeOliveira
@LucianaCristinadeOliveira 3 года назад
Gosh. I remember going through such an annoying process. Their offer, after four interviews, was much less than I was already earning. I ask up front now.
@HearMeLearn
@HearMeLearn 3 года назад
@Randall Johnson exactly, I'm trying to get into IT so I don't have experience yet, and yes I wouldn't take dirt pay like 10 an hour for an IT job, but as long as it's somewhat reasonable you just take what you can get, get some experience in the industry, and then try to negotiate higher pay at your job, or start applying for similar positions at other companies with the intention of asking for more
@MB-tu4hu
@MB-tu4hu 3 месяца назад
Nicee
@lgray1967
@lgray1967 3 года назад
I wish they would advertise pay upfront so I wouldn’t waste my time and their time by applying. Every company doesn’t play fair.
@YIIIIIN
@YIIIIIN 3 года назад
most show you their rate on their job advertisement. Even if they don't show, you should probably do enough research to know how much other companies generally pay. The most important key is to get hired first, salary mean nothing when you don't get hired. You can always reject the offer, if you think you are underpay. You should always go to multiples interviews, not just one. From there, you can see which offer is the best for you. Sometime more money does not mean better position.
@chrislim7976
@chrislim7976 3 года назад
If you're an applicant to any job and have no clue what it pays that tells me you don't know much about the position your applying for.
@lgray1967
@lgray1967 3 года назад
@@chrislim7976 No it means that they haven’t disclosed that information. You can research glass door, etc and still not have a true picture. In fact glass door indicates that I am over paid for my position.
@chrislim7976
@chrislim7976 3 года назад
@@lgray1967 I don't know what you're arguing about. The comments aren't related. I wouldn't hire you based on what you're writing.
@lgray1967
@lgray1967 3 года назад
@@chrislim7976 Great! I’m not asking you to hire me. You commented on my post. Good night
@petereberle
@petereberle 3 года назад
This is so dumb. Employers ask for all your references before telling you what they pay. If the ad doesn’t list the salary range I won’t waste me time. Transparency is just good business.
@HearMeLearn
@HearMeLearn 3 года назад
@brandon wolf exactly, I'm studying to go into IT so once I get my certs I'm gonna apply to a bunch of places and be all professional and everything and not ask about pay until they offer the job, if they don't offer it then I won't say anything. Once they offer it I'll ask and if it seems too low I'll just ask if they can do more and if they can't then I'll just say no thanks and move on.
@chrislim7976
@chrislim7976 3 года назад
Everyone trying to make generalizations when there are different types of jobs and industries. That is what is so dumb.
@jgw9990
@jgw9990 3 года назад
@@HearMeLearn Sounds like like good way to waste time imo. Posting a salary range just makes sense.
@evaj558
@evaj558 3 года назад
In my area if they dont advertise the pay it is because it only pays minimum wage
@brett2396
@brett2396 3 года назад
Exactly. Fortunately a lot of jobs listed on line show benefits and salary range. Why waste my time and their time if the salary isn't where I'm expecting it to be?
@SEXISTEPH79
@SEXISTEPH79 3 года назад
I’d want to know before I even apply... I wouldn’t be wasting my time if pay wasn’t right for me
@CarlGorn
@CarlGorn 3 года назад
That's actually a much more tactful and proactive way to go about it. Asking in the interview not only makes you look confrontational, but also lazy and stupid, and all that will register in the employer's subconscious so you won't even be thought about. Much better to do your homework on the position before you set foot in the interview.
@CarlGorn
@CarlGorn 3 года назад
@@saulgoodman2018 They might, however, tell you how much to ask for. Especially if you couch it as asking them for advice, or for the posterity of research. People love to be seen as an authority on something.
@cole1219
@cole1219 3 года назад
I disagree with Ken. Why waste your time and energy with a job position that won't meet your needs? Ask upfront and don't waste either party's time!
@crystalfairyasmr2234
@crystalfairyasmr2234 3 года назад
☝️ I agree
@rcj0386
@rcj0386 3 года назад
They both act like the candidate is the only one being interviewed. The candidate is absolutely interviewing you, too! I am a recruiter, and we do have people who turn down our offers (and not just solely based on compensation).
@CarlGorn
@CarlGorn 3 года назад
Yes, but unless you are at the pinnacle of your field, the employer doesn't need you as much as you need them. With the exception of emergent fields and some robot-proof skilled trades, there is almost always a greater supply of candidates than there is a demand for them.
@ajoyforlife1
@ajoyforlife1 3 года назад
@@CarlGorn True but the company is not guaranteed to hire a candidate with the same drive and dedication to their craft. Mediocracy is plentiful. Extraordinary is rare.
@CarlGorn
@CarlGorn 3 года назад
@@ajoyforlife1 Which is exactly why Dave's advice is good for 95% of candidates. Most people aren't extraordinary, though these days, many people have the delusion that they are. And nobody wants to hire that.
@CarlGorn
@CarlGorn 3 года назад
@rylixav - Which doesn't at all mean that the same can't be said of candidates.
@MR3DDev
@MR3DDev 3 года назад
I've been in many interviews in my life the salary question always comes up and I would be very weary of a company that does not bring it up
@searphhoney
@searphhoney 3 года назад
I've taken assignments & gone through the entire interview process not knowing the pay. Personally I can't stand not knowing how much a position pays until the end of the interview. Companies should really disclose how much a position pays in the job announcement.
@AshleeTuck
@AshleeTuck 3 года назад
That’s how they get people to come in. Always a secret. Wow this sounds like a great job. Come in to be disappointed/satisfied.
@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303
@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 3 года назад
@@AshleeTuck But one would think a business like Costco states "We pay$16/hr. now!" Why would that not bring people in?
@AshleeTuck
@AshleeTuck 3 года назад
@@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 ok but the point I’m making is for these silly office jobs or “higher level” jobs. It’s never posted. Use Glassdoor and sometimes they don’t even get the salary right.
@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303
@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 3 года назад
@@AshleeTuck I think we are both in agreement about transparency.
@jeremiahlewis9288
@jeremiahlewis9288 3 года назад
In my current position, when pay came up the CEO scoffed at what I told him I was making, and literally said “we pay better, much better than that!” And what they started me at was more than I ever made! I’ve learned to ask what you want for and the worst they say no, the best, they come close to or match to what your want! Just go for it!
@MillionaireMindsetClub
@MillionaireMindsetClub 3 года назад
It's a rarity these days that pay doesn't come all the way till the end. Usually in the filtration phase they ask you what your expectations are.
@carriemiranda130
@carriemiranda130 3 года назад
When the employer asks if you have any questions.. "what kind of compensation package do u offer?"
@reformedchinesecommunist
@reformedchinesecommunist Год назад
Best answer
@salcetrulo2262
@salcetrulo2262 3 года назад
the real question should be why is the job not telling you the range before the first interview. this is a two way street, employers typically always look to take in many instances. salary should be known before first interview.
@stevenporter863
@stevenporter863 3 года назад
The opinion of the dark shirt guy is okay for entry level. - If not entry level salary should be a topic since otherwise it could be a potential waste of everyone's valuable time (salary ranges of employer and interviewer may not even be on the same page).
@robedmund9948
@robedmund9948 3 года назад
For a professional position, sure. For a freaking coffee shop job? Nope.
@hannahcarney2250
@hannahcarney2250 3 года назад
Yeah not asking shows youre desperate. At this point in my career I'm upfront about what I want for my salary. Sometimes they don't go forward with me, but who cares you always find someone who bites!
@Helthurian
@Helthurian 3 года назад
Theres always Glassdoor.
@stevenporter863
@stevenporter863 3 года назад
@@hannahcarney2250 👍
@spot_of_tea53
@spot_of_tea53 3 года назад
Let's waste an hour and find out it pays $12, no thanks. It should be illegal to not list the pay. When someone asks you to do something you always say how much. Hey can you dig a hole for me? Sure, how much are you going to pay me...
@James-yi1vk
@James-yi1vk 3 года назад
The difference is when you're asked to dig a hole, you are given the job offer. So it's appropriate to ask for the pay. You don't ask for pay right out the gate.
@karil6461
@karil6461 3 года назад
I have never had a job interview where the the interviewer brought up pay.
@SarahR2D2
@SarahR2D2 3 года назад
They have a range so their goal is the minimize the pay on the low end.
@disccovered6392
@disccovered6392 3 года назад
One problem with that is pay is like Dave said, a range. Employers aren't going to pay someone with more experience the same as someone with less experience. While I agree with the sentiment that people work for money, and that should be more available information, it isn't always so cut and dry.
@craigclermond8001
@craigclermond8001 2 года назад
@@James-yi1vk if I can't ask for pay information upfront then the company shouldn't ask for my resume upfront. sounds right? actually, it sounds ridiculous. you cant complete a transaction and not know what you are getting. the company's job should be to ensure you are qualified to earn the salary, not to hide salaries and manipulate people.
@yeehaw94
@yeehaw94 3 года назад
if an employer doesn't like that you put yourself first then find another employer. Dave is dead wrong.
@austinwall2370
@austinwall2370 3 года назад
Nope. If pay isn’t transparent, get out. Do not “go through the process”, we exchange our work for money. Nothing else.
@mynamejeb8743
@mynamejeb8743 3 года назад
i agree but there is a professional way asking about the pay and negotiate it. if u came barging into the interview office amd asking about the pay before presenting what u can bring into the table, its ur fault if u dont get the job
@austinwall2370
@austinwall2370 3 года назад
@@mynamejeb8743 if the pay isn’t transparent, the job is not worth having. That’s just in my personal experience. These employers need to understand we are trading our time and skills for their money. That’s it.
@craigclermond8001
@craigclermond8001 2 года назад
@@mynamejeb8743 if someone comes in asking about pay, your job should be to verify they are worth it. however pay shouldn't be on the back burner of an interview because no matter how good a job is, if you can't pay the bills then it's not worth it. a jobs needs arent more important than mine
@heidibriones
@heidibriones 3 года назад
Weird advice from the "what's your household income?" guy.
@HearMeLearn
@HearMeLearn 3 года назад
I don't think he's ever applied for a job lol
@joepfeiler5911
@joepfeiler5911 3 года назад
If asking about pay in the latter part first interview kills the deal, they would not be a very good company to work for.
@evaj558
@evaj558 3 года назад
Exactly
@migu003
@migu003 3 года назад
This is just a millionare who wants the hardest worker with as little pay as he can give them but its a slap in the face when hes asked about the money🙄
@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303
@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 3 года назад
Welcome to Capitalism.
@too-da-loo
@too-da-loo 3 года назад
Ask for the pay range BEFORE the interview. Then discuss when offered.
@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303
@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 3 года назад
"competitive" Could be $1 million/hr or $7.24/hr.
@magicworld3242
@magicworld3242 3 года назад
Exactly
@harambetidepod1451
@harambetidepod1451 3 года назад
Value your time people! Every interaction is a two way street. If the employer is playing games they can waste someone else's time, not yours.
@mrmackey8956
@mrmackey8956 3 года назад
What if they are offering too low? Then i wasted my entire time and theirs by not asking earlier.
@CurlyStruggles
@CurlyStruggles 3 года назад
If it's not listed on the job posting , I ask when I get called for an interview. My time is my most valuable resource and I don't want to waste it on a position that is not within my range. Just put the salary range on the job posting to prevent all of this from happening.
@dylancrossfinance
@dylancrossfinance 3 года назад
This is a great topic to cover.
@triple_gem_shining
@triple_gem_shining 3 года назад
Too bad parents dont talk to their kids about this.
@hiitsme3039
@hiitsme3039 3 года назад
@@triple_gem_shining yeah I’m surprised too I feel like it’s a parent job to prepare them for life
@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303
@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 3 года назад
@@triple_gem_shining They throw them out at 18 and most parents have a family unit where one of the two is actually biological. They have their own problems.
@kamboieyyy9998
@kamboieyyy9998 3 года назад
I have to disagree. I'm there for the money, you're pay dictates how much is sold to you.
@Luke-cp9uj
@Luke-cp9uj 3 года назад
Your
@takeastandorbeenslavedby-left
@takeastandorbeenslavedby-left 3 года назад
I agree
@TommyRibs
@TommyRibs 3 года назад
If it is a great job, you should be there for more than money. Personal and Professional growth are just as important as your salary. That can be a stepping stone to another job in your career path.
@1dk22
@1dk22 3 года назад
@@TommyRibs "Personal and Professional growth" don't put food on the table or, as Dave loves to say, keep you out of debt, income does. Please
@BunkMasterFlex77
@BunkMasterFlex77 3 года назад
Usually HR schedules the interview. That is who you want to ask for the salary range so you don't have to bring it up in the actual interview. HR also is usually who calls you back after the interview to offer you the job. It is there where you can do some final negotiation on salary.
@scorpionx7044
@scorpionx7044 3 года назад
That's not my experience. I have found the first thing an employer will ask is "What are your salary requirements ?" This is before you can even prove that they should hire you. It's nothing but a power play to lowball people on pay.
@fmaz1952
@fmaz1952 3 года назад
If the employer is ashamed to announced their wage in the job posting, I'm not even gona bother applying. Literally every job I've seen the employer being obscure about the wage being offered, they turned out to be really shady.
@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303
@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 3 года назад
employer*
@fmaz1952
@fmaz1952 3 года назад
@@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 thanks I fixed it
@Faith-un7ns
@Faith-un7ns 3 года назад
Exactly
@jonstarnes7905
@jonstarnes7905 3 года назад
Completely disagree. I'm gainfully employed. I'm not going to even interview for a new position if I dont know that the pay is comparable or better.
@pamelawhynot7553
@pamelawhynot7553 3 года назад
What about the time-wasting factor, on both sides? If I know that I need $X and it is within the typical range for this job...yet the job pays less than $X...isn't it better to say that upfront and save everyone time and precious resources?
@flyerfocus6259
@flyerfocus6259 3 года назад
@Pamela, See my comments about a page up that I posted before I saw your question.
@obo2999
@obo2999 3 года назад
How much time are you wasting doing an interview?
@HearMeLearn
@HearMeLearn 3 года назад
@@obo2999 for some reason people think wasting an hour is the end of the world as if they had something better to do at every waking second, but I could understand if it was multiple interviews, or a really long interview just to get offered 10 an hour.
@pamelawhynot7553
@pamelawhynot7553 3 года назад
@@HearMeLearn It just doesn't make sense to me. If your objective is to hire someone then you should only talk to people who will be able to accept the wage you are offering. If your objective is to get hired (and you need a certain salary to pay your bills) then you should only talk with employers who have a job that is a potential fit. Job interviews aren't about making friends. Its about finding the right fit for both parties. I don't believe that asking about salary makes you a "taker." I think it makes you a realist.
@craigclermond8001
@craigclermond8001 2 года назад
@@obo2999 most salaried workers have to do a phone or zoom call initially and then an in-person or interview after. many times these professionals work half a day or full day to see what the job is like before accepting the position. if the job is across state lines, the applicant work has to acquire accommodations, transportation, and an airline ticket too to get do the interview. This consumes extensive resources and requires significant effort especially when you aren't sure of job benefits. if a person is applying however for a minimum wage job that interview will likely only be an hour. even then that hour could've been spent in another interview with more favorable offers
@LoveMyAbeshaWomen
@LoveMyAbeshaWomen 3 года назад
I hate that Ramsey personalities just agree with Dave, no matter what he says. Ken just completely shifted his position when Dave semi-disagreed with him. Thumbs down!
@552mustang
@552mustang 3 года назад
Dave was right in this case and the other dude was wrong. So he should change his view.
@EsiriE
@EsiriE 3 года назад
@@552mustang my exact thoughs
@staciv1064
@staciv1064 3 года назад
I just had an interview Thursday, and I did ask about the pay range at the end.. I Dont want to waste their time or mine. They either appreciate that or Dont. Not my problem.
@LP-ck6qx
@LP-ck6qx 3 года назад
Unless someone is interviewing for a volunteer position, we DO care about how much the job pays. And I am not ashamed of that. My time is valuable, as is that of the interviewer. Companies waste both by not revealing salary ranges up front. I know of many excellent candidates who won't even consider positions if the pay rate is unknown. You (company owners) are doing yourself a disservice by playing coy with this.
@Overbuilt.Gaming
@Overbuilt.Gaming 3 года назад
It's owners that are detached. They get a few "best place to work awards" and it goes to their heads.
@briantii
@briantii 3 года назад
Exactly. Especially on a cold call from a recruiter. I’ve got a job I like. I’d rather not waste everyone’s time unless you’re potentially going to be paying a lot more than I’m already making. Completely reasonable question and if phrased correctly it shouldn’t be insulting to anyone... heck it just shows that I ALREADY value that companies resources and want to do what’s best for them.
@charlesyoung9980
@charlesyoung9980 3 года назад
In my opinion, you should never ask about pay during an interview. The employer should bring it up. Whenever negotiating, the first person to speak almost always loses out.
@pep590
@pep590 3 года назад
That's what I have always been told too.
@charper9890
@charper9890 3 года назад
My first job it never came up and I found out on my paycheck what I made. So neither of us spoke and I still lost. Given it was Dairy Queen but you get what I am saying.
@tenderermean000
@tenderermean000 3 года назад
Exactly why you should bring it up. At the end of the interview asking for a range on what they are payong for the position is good. You get them to give you a number first.
@HearMeLearn
@HearMeLearn 3 года назад
@@charper9890 the guy getting paid is always the one to lose unless you make sure before you start working. It changes depending on the job and the company but I would definitely have said something before working if I was applying to Diary Queen.
@charper9890
@charper9890 3 года назад
Oh I agree. I messed up on that one.
@jonathan3917
@jonathan3917 3 года назад
Most people low ball these days and it definitely takes more time to look for work than to hire.. saying a range of what you're budgeting for a position is just manners.. plain and simple
@Ojisan642
@Ojisan642 3 года назад
Dave Ramsey hasn’t applied for a job in a long time, maybe not ever.
@babatundeonabajo
@babatundeonabajo 3 года назад
No, we know he's applied for work in the very distant past because in one of his shows, he spoke about being fired for no apparent reason and that he still has very low-level bitterness about it. The guy who fired him is dead. So yes, he's applied for work but it was probably decades ago before many of his fellow panellists were even born.
@MCgrease08
@MCgrease08 3 года назад
But he's hired a heck of a lot of people.
@TommyRibs
@TommyRibs 3 года назад
But he interviews people to hire. So he is VERY aware of the process.
@ajoyforlife1
@ajoyforlife1 3 года назад
Suspect he has an HR team recruiting and interviewing candidates. Hiring professionals do at times get out of touch with the current landscape. There are multiple generations competing in the workforce today.
@chrislim7976
@chrislim7976 3 года назад
He's out of touch on a lot of things.
@Jay-om8gr
@Jay-om8gr 3 года назад
“Instantly revealed his heart “ The man needs money to survive. Tell him whether or not he’s wasting his time with you. Don’t act like he’s there to serve you first. That’s secondary to survival. Smh people in positions of power man....
@TheZane03
@TheZane03 3 года назад
I said the same thing, these bills got to get paid, if they pay isn’t adequate why waste both our time
@Michael-vf2mw
@Michael-vf2mw 3 года назад
Exactly! The young guy was to the point, which is generally what you want in your company. It's a given that he understands that he has to work for the compensation, especially, as Dave indicated, that the guy was promising in every way. That kid was smart. It was probably his way of filtering out bad employers, and Dave, ironically, revealed His hand.
@obo2999
@obo2999 3 года назад
Do people just not listen. Dave didn't say don't talk about salary. He said don't lead with it, because it leaves a bad impression. A buisness is taking an investment in you when they hire you. If your attitude is that, you are "only here for money", than why should I invest in you over the guy who wants to grow with the company. Why should the interviewer want to invest in you, when you just told them you would quit and leave for another job at the first oppurtunity? This mercenary attitude goes both ways. Don't complain when your fired at the drop of a hat when someone decides you are expendable.
@twinmama16
@twinmama16 3 года назад
I disagree with waiting, what if you have multiple interviews? What if you get two offers? I think asking at some point is acceptable and if a company doesn't think so then I don't wanna work there anyway
@portlandrestaurants
@portlandrestaurants 3 года назад
We always put the pay in our employment ad
@michaelh5055
@michaelh5055 3 года назад
12-15 an hour at a coffee shop??? Try more like 9.50 an hour plus tips. Companies are lowering pay.
@jillianmcallister1012
@jillianmcallister1012 3 года назад
Depends on the location.
@jordonisawesome
@jordonisawesome 3 года назад
The pay rate should be in the application and shouldn’t have to be asked about. Full stop. I don’t think it’s useful to waste ones time or the interviewer’s time by doing an interview just to find out that the pay isn’t worth the position.
@emmarose6590
@emmarose6590 3 года назад
No way. You can convince them all you want they may have a cap at 60k, and you’re looking for 85k it’s a waste of time. Salary should be mentioned within the screening call, latest second call.
@devnerdgirl4638
@devnerdgirl4638 3 года назад
I work very hard for my employers. I always try to go above and beyond. However, I'm solely there to work and get paid. Most people don't have the luxury of doing what they love and these bills aren't going to pay themselves.
@TheTurdballs420
@TheTurdballs420 3 года назад
Immediately , like don’t even give HR a chance to ask a stupid question. Employers appreciate a real go getter
@twiddlediddle3939
@twiddlediddle3939 3 года назад
LOL you're done before you start then boy.
@weaponx100
@weaponx100 3 года назад
I’ve been to interviews where I felt like I was begging for the job
@Guitarlvr01
@Guitarlvr01 3 года назад
I just don’t get the appeal with Ken Coleman. 😑
@matthewc6134
@matthewc6134 3 года назад
Totally disagree. A wage/salary is how someone puts food on their table, so they should absolutely ask about that during an interview. If an employer isn't willing to discuss salary then they're attempting a bait and switch... If a company wants to pay the minimum possible for a position, then they better expect minimum possible talent/effort in return.
@fkcavs
@fkcavs 3 года назад
This is true but unfortunately employers generally have the leverage to dictate the salary discussion, the only time they tread different in this aspect from my experience is if they want you badly for the position. The two highest positions I secured salary was never mentioned at all, the interview was completed and 2-3 days later an offer was made in each instance.
@obo2999
@obo2999 3 года назад
Neither of them said don't ask. They said don't lead with that.
@elbucky6
@elbucky6 3 года назад
Why not be upfront about pay and benefits? I would hate to look over someone's résumé, interview them, have them check all the boxes in the interview and then find out I can't afford to pay them the salary they require.
@photorocket4550
@photorocket4550 3 года назад
When I have been taking advantage of for so long in the manufacturing industry, if anyone doesn't tell me what kind,how good and what my compensation is. They don't deserve my hard work. End of interview. At will employment in manufacturing is very harsh, and the majority of companies WILL take advantage of you.
@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303
@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 3 года назад
At will should have never been allowed. Everything should be due process because there HAS TO BE a reason you are firing or laying off someone.
@morlandoemtp
@morlandoemtp 3 года назад
When your in the top of your field you can tell them what your pay will be and work conditions 😂😂
@SarahLarsonwgm
@SarahLarsonwgm 3 года назад
I can see your advice being good when talking about a company like Ramsey Solutions that is a ministry as well and that has a prestigious name, but for the average job it is crazy to expect people to pretend that they don't care about pay. I work for money, not because I think my company is so amazing I just want to give to them. Of course I care about compensation, and not just in a "will be able to survive on it?" kind of way. Being paid is why I work even if I love the work. I did ministry work for a number of years and I loved it and all I got was a small stipend, that's totally different than a BUSINESS expecting that I just want to "bless the boss" and that's why I come to work each day.
@xJayhawkFANx
@xJayhawkFANx 3 года назад
Why do we work? To get money. That's why we wake up early in the morning and go to work. To provide for ourselves and our families. I don't understand why pay isn't disclosed on job postings or in the interview. This occurs way too often even for higher paid positions. Although most usually disclose the pay with the job offer
@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303
@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 3 года назад
The U.S. is so backwards in this case. It is probably one of the few developed countries where businesses reign supreme over the common voter, consumer. Businesses should feel obliged to have someone work for them and even that, pay enough for the worker to show up at the job each day. They would still turn a profit (probably not as much had they offered lower), but ethics plays a large role in investing.
@obo2999
@obo2999 3 года назад
@@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 yeah dude, America is "backward" because people ask about wage in the middle or end of a job interview, insteading of demanding stuff before the first greeting comes out? Do you hear yourself
@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303
@wewhoareabouttodiesaluteyo9303 3 года назад
@@obo2999 It should never be "the people" should be asking. If you are an ethical business owner, everything about your business should be told upfront. Why are you wasting someone's time, keeping information from them? Remember, you are not doing anyone favors by giving them a job. You should be thankful they are even allowing your business into their community.
@Avangelis
@Avangelis 3 года назад
Really Dave. People should know how much they can get paid before they waste their time.
@tr3999
@tr3999 3 года назад
I take the approach that an interview is seeing if I’m right for the job - and if the job is right for me. I have even responded in this during interviews when I’ve been asked what are my salary expectations as a way to decline to reply. I don’t want to miss out on being shortlisted as I have high salary expeditions. Once they make a decision and they shortlist me, that’s when I focus in on the remuneration. It also gives you a better negotiation point as you know now that they want you!
@Jkt0891
@Jkt0891 3 года назад
I have a mortgage rate of 5.65%. Should i refinance my home loan for a lower interest rate or just focus on paying the mortgage off faster?
@heslind
@heslind 3 года назад
You don’t until they give you an offer. Then you negotiate.
@yasnyne
@yasnyne 3 года назад
I disagree with Dave’s as employer, especially with the example he gave about the guy who ask about the salary and benefits package.
@martinshoosterman
@martinshoosterman 3 года назад
If they never talk about the salary, its probably minimum wage. And if it's minimum wage then they probably won't talk about salary.
@jacobg8640
@jacobg8640 3 года назад
Even employers who do post their salaries aren't required to stick to it.
@peeonthe3rdrail414
@peeonthe3rdrail414 3 года назад
Seems like a waste of time waiting until the job is offered to ask about pay. To Dave's point, I work to live not live to work so yes it is about what the company can offer me. To the company I am a number on a spreadsheet not a person, and you should treat the company the same way.
@magicworld3242
@magicworld3242 3 года назад
I don't agree. You should ask what the pay is in the interview.
@bigeric8334
@bigeric8334 3 года назад
I had a job but was looking for another one and during the interview I asked right off the bat to see if it was worth my time however if I didn't have a job currently I might have let it play out a little longer
@ratherryan
@ratherryan 3 года назад
Employers should always disclose wages in adverts, no questions asked.
@sejogt5
@sejogt5 3 года назад
I disagree . I got played on my first job and learned my lesson. Now I always ask upfront and plan my next move . So far it has worked for the best .
@esonon5210
@esonon5210 3 года назад
If they don't talk to you about pay at the beginning then you need to consider if you actually want to work with them. No need to waste your time interviewing for a job that's gonna pay you peanuts
@jessenorwalt3936
@jessenorwalt3936 3 года назад
If a boss is telling me what they expect from me, they also have a responsibility to tell me what they are going to give me for working for them. It's a two way street. I agree with what Dave said, asking about money right out front is bad but after that you should.
@MMradnane
@MMradnane 3 года назад
This dude talks too much. I prefer solo Dave.
@yourippedmyshirt1269
@yourippedmyshirt1269 3 года назад
Lololololol
@ianrobinson476
@ianrobinson476 3 года назад
He is definitely my least favorite co-host.
@joshinman8354
@joshinman8354 7 месяцев назад
This dude walking back his comment at the slightest challenge from Dave made me laugh, especially after his initial conviction lol.
@HHHPedigrees
@HHHPedigrees 3 года назад
Dont ever talk about pay during an interview unless they’re ready to negotiate
@alexgrinage
@alexgrinage 3 года назад
I'm with Dave because the ones that don't tell you usually are paying low or minimum wage.
@michellejeanine9074
@michellejeanine9074 3 года назад
If you google the company on the web it’s posted somewhere. I checked even my current job and it’s correct. Also when applying if it doesn’t have the salary or pay rate forget it!
@IReadYouReadWeAllReadNow
@IReadYouReadWeAllReadNow 3 года назад
I work in HR and recruit all the time. I agree that asking about the salary as the first question in the interview isn't a good sign but salary expectations should be covered in the interview, regardless of what kind of job you're taking about. I don't want to waste my time with someone who will eventually decline an offer and I wouldn't want to waste my time as a candidate in interviews for jobs that pay lower than what I'm willing to accept either
@danieljohnson4418
@danieljohnson4418 3 года назад
I prefer employers that specify an intended compensation range. No sense in wasting my time or the prospective employer's time interviewing for a position that doesn't meet my expectations for compensation.
@Poomayne
@Poomayne 3 года назад
The employer or recruiter should disclose this early on. Even before a phone screening.
@gerardopliego-financevideo8214
@gerardopliego-financevideo8214 3 года назад
Good topic , it depends what’s your goal. if getting experience (Interning) or monetary purposes . A lot of of these videos have a lot of different variables lol
@MoonlightXYZ
@MoonlightXYZ 3 года назад
You should always prepare for an answer before even the first interview. I've been on the receiving end on that question many times and I am left unsure what to say.
@jennakarpe2783
@jennakarpe2783 3 года назад
That was a really good point they both made. You have to put water in the bucket or else there won’t be any water to take And this is an entry level job where you’re up against a lot of candidates so put your best foot forward. Coming from somebody who is always going for the next opportunity when it comes to pay this was a huge wake up call. Thank you for covering this topic!
@trajan74
@trajan74 3 года назад
Never. Unless they explicitly say what your pay will be, don't bring it up. If they ask what you expect, say you're open to negotiation. Maybe give a range that is negotiable.
@fkcavs
@fkcavs 3 года назад
Do everything possible to avoid providing a range. Many times organizations are willing to offer more than expected for a high caliber candidate but providing a range can negate your ability to secure the highest possible compensation.
@acre2122
@acre2122 3 года назад
I am trying to move up in a similar field... They NEVER match what I am making now. They always want me, but they can't start me "that high". I mean, I don't believe in my current company. Multiple interviews they offer me half or what I asked for.
@jillianmcallister1012
@jillianmcallister1012 3 года назад
Its shady when companies aren't up front about it. That being said, since many people don't even bother applying I always apply because there will be less competition.
@ajwhite1962
@ajwhite1962 3 года назад
I always ask at the end of an interview when they ask if I have any questions. That lets me know what to expect if hired for the job and signing up for before I sign the hiring paperwork. I had one company right in the beginning ask me what me expectant salary was and I wanted more than they was paying. It ended right after that because it was a waste of each other’s time.
@notoriousosc1669
@notoriousosc1669 3 года назад
I recently interviewed and asked about it in the end. Never got a call back, just got ghosted
@raallen1468
@raallen1468 3 года назад
Being ghosted is a common practice "these days". That's why employers want only on-line applications. Employers who do that are pompous, arrogant, self-important dictators.
@prestondavis3342
@prestondavis3342 3 года назад
Who goes to a job interview not knowing what the pay is?
@TheCheekyCaboose
@TheCheekyCaboose 3 года назад
Does Dave’s program only work in the us, it won’t allow me to buy here in Canada
@chessmasterbenz3094
@chessmasterbenz3094 3 года назад
Love watching you guys
@jojojordan5557
@jojojordan5557 3 года назад
Great points. However, the reality is that people get jobs because they need the money NOT because they WANT to leave their family at home to come and hang out at a workplace.
@seferinorino6951
@seferinorino6951 3 года назад
As an employer, I would always discuss pay on the first interview. I don’t want to waste anyone’s time. At the end of the day that’s a key point and they may like the job but if the money is not right for them they won’t take it. In the meantime they could be missing out on something that’s more appropriate for them and we could miss out on a person that matches the job we offer. This applies specially to people changing industries, I’m in tourism, not the best paid industry. In fact, if they didn’t ask for it, I would think they are not interested.I should mention I’m in Australia, maybe in US is different.
@jacqueline8566
@jacqueline8566 3 года назад
What I am learning is this salary question can be addressed during the recruiting phone interview. The recruiters I’ve spoken to tell me what the range is for the jobs.
@gatorbuilt
@gatorbuilt 3 года назад
And your SKILLS, EXPERIENCE and ACCOMPLISHMENTS will place you within that range...and location of the actual job can be VERY relevant to compensation...CAlifornia jobs need at least 125%+ of the typical pay generating a pay range for the same exact position)e.g sales rep in Topeka, KS vs one in Manhattan, NY
@fodaymsesay9633
@fodaymsesay9633 Год назад
I went for an interview today I was left out because at the end of an interview I asked about my salary.
@crimson1919
@crimson1919 3 года назад
You better know by or before the first interview what the range is.
@BigChuck525
@BigChuck525 3 года назад
I would never hire anyone who didn't have enough confidence to ask about pay.
@MiguelNoyola1
@MiguelNoyola1 3 года назад
If it’s not covered by the employer it shouldn’t be off putting they ask but that’s the issue when you go work for someone else. If you don’t like that you should go to work for yourself.
@mptrevino
@mptrevino 3 года назад
Good advice Dave. Good topic
@morganbruno3252
@morganbruno3252 3 года назад
I don’t get why employers always think we’re in it for some noble cause. If you didn’t pay me I wouldn’t be working, of course money is a large part of it! The culture was manipulated to make discussing salary taboo so they pay you less.
@jeffdorris5321
@jeffdorris5321 3 года назад
Nice work ✨🎆🎇
@blackworldtraveler3711
@blackworldtraveler3711 3 года назад
I always knew my starting salary and current maximum before an interview in my career field. Due diligence will do that.
@MrSkinnyn71
@MrSkinnyn71 3 года назад
Agreed. Due Diligence is a skill most people never learn to acquire.
@JessyJess04
@JessyJess04 3 года назад
Agreed reading through the comments I'm pretty confused. I mean I work in biotechnology so maybe it's different but don't most employers ask for a salary range on the application? That's your opportunity to provide your salary requirements so you don't waste their time or your own. A) do the research and know what you are worth B) state your requirements up front otherwise the only person wasting your time is you
@Faith-un7ns
@Faith-un7ns 3 года назад
@@JessyJess04 no that isn’t always the case.
@LoverboyB_Pookie
@LoverboyB_Pookie 3 года назад
I need to know during the phone interview!!! im not gonna waste my time going through the process if im not going to make what im comfortable with
@ajoyforlife1
@ajoyforlife1 3 года назад
With the level of work ethics in the workplace today, businesses should appreciate potential candidates with boldness and tenacity. Many timid workers do just enough and can careless about getting the job done. Knowing the amount of money and benefits you will be earning is responsible and being about your business. Unless the company is looking for mediocracy. In that case, it might not be the company for you.
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