When does horror take it too far? | UrbanSPOOK & Terrifier 3 | Discussion & Critique 

Personally, I think it's possible to make anything work in fiction. All that matters is how you execute it, mainly in how you have it impact the story. I really think that if UrbanSPOOK had gave the more extreme topics in his story both respect and relevance to the plot, he would not nearly be as controversial as he currently is.

When stories have insanely horrid shit just for the sake of it, and not serving the story in any real meaningful way, it’s just uncreative and lazy

Always felt like disturbing material in horror mostly works when handled with tackt. Like, just using with without care comes across as callous, epsecially when the horror is closer to reality. At least that's how I look at it.

The reason why the over the top violence works for terrifier is because terrifier doesn’t take its self seriously

I feel like The Painter went downhill when the series stopped focusing on tracking down the killer and just delved further and further into being more and more shocking. I was okay with it having taboo subjects, but the story was so much more interesting when we were finding out more of the mystery. Like when I first saw the implied action that there were two killers, it added a lot of intrigue. I love his artwork and I think he does a good job at setting a creepy atmosphere with visuals and sounds, it just doesn’t work as a story. It’s like the “A Serbian Film” of analog horror. An interesting concept with potential ruined by just revelling in disgusting and taboo shit for shock value. Also not a fan of selling shirts of some of the victims. Reminds me of how people were selling the uhh….ugh…the “newborn” prop from that disgusting movie on eBay. I think the idea of Terrifier 3’s trailer being “too far” is kinda ridiculous though. Art has made it very clear he has no issue killing kids in the past movies lol.

With Terrifier 3, the whole series is all about black comedy and splatter gore. I know people hate to see children getting murdered in media, but it can be effective in making something more horrific and unnerving to a viewer. It’s all up to the discretion of the viewer to know the content of a movie and make their own decision to watch it or not

When you compare Terrifier to Clockwork Orange you lose the point hard. It's like saying saying a movie about nazi zombies should have the same tone as Schindler's List. You are losing the point of both movies, Terrifier is a mess but it was always about shock value

Let me preface this with, I am a massive horror fan. I grew up at the tail end of the 80's, slasher, horror, gorehound Troma movies were my bread and butter in middle and high school. But... The problem is, splatter gore isn't usually...well written. It's genuinely just shlock. The only time I have seen slasher type film really correctly use the whole "Child Death" thing well is, of all things, Halloween 3. That LITERALLY changes the stakes of the movie at the end and makes it all the more crushing when they can't stop the plan. Otherwise it's just literally there to be like "See! we are so edgy! We have no limits!" And I genuinely have a problem with that for multiple reasons. One of the foremost being, continued exposure to violent media does indeed start to desensitize people to violence. This doesn't make them killers outright obviously, but, it does start to soften people's shock to genuine violence. Now, child death is so shocking because it hits humans at a core, primal level. One of our strongest instincts is to protect our young. That's why you can see 2000 soldiers or adults explode on the news and no one bats an eye, but a maternity ward getting bombed will mortify everyone into demanding action. If we start to desensitize people to child death via "Mindless" violent media, who freaking knows what road that might go down. Children are already starting to become targets of more random, wanton acts of violence. I feel like maybe we as a society need to step back a bit and chill from shock horror and such so much. It might have been fun while it lasted, but it's starting to seem like society can't take it. Too many people with too many uncontrolled mental issues with access to too much media. And with the world being a massive ball of suck anymore, kids aren't safe anymore IRL, it really sort of sucks to see it becoming more prevalent in our fiction as well. Hard to escape reality when the death's of hundreds of Palestinian, Israeli, Ukrainian and Sudanese kids are all over the media and in the back of your head, coupled with this month's annual school shooting, and then you turn on a fictional movie and are slapped in the face with a kid getting killed.

As a writer, I will use dark elements in order to further a plot or a characters growth. The thing about the Hero's Journey Ideal is that you can very easily warp it and bam you have a Villain that is not only synpathetic, but grounded and real, and vice versa. However, I am also very aware that in horror the best elements of it are those where YOU are the one conjuring your own conclusions as what's going on from clues presented to you. I hate in Horror movies when they feel the need to slap the Monster or Creature on screen as soon as possible. It removes... tension. It removes the gravitas about them. In fact I wrote a slasher villain persona type thing for a halloween costume idea. Part of what makes the costume design so unique is that 1 the outfit is all black completely removing the silhouette and warping the perception of his physique. He has a voice modulator that allows him to change his voice, even using his own becuase it again serves to cloud and warp the perception of him. His mask has component's to it. One where its completely dark, one where its got white in areas making certain parts visible and one completely white so the entire mask is visible. The idea for this is built around the idea that if he appeared before 6 people. What would they each see/hear and perceive and what would they tell the Police? Would they be seen as helpful or as unreliable? Playing with tension right. So even in my own fiction if im writing something dark I will feed you a small amount of information and then cut to black, allowing the reader to fill the gaps in themselves therefore allowing their own interpretation to be what the event was and how it looked to be the canon event that took place all the while remaining tactful about it all. Grim dark not grim stupid

I’m really excited for the second video on berserk, the series only gets more incredible as you go

Tbh I think your video is the first that I've seen that's clarified that you can write/put whatever you want in a story within reason. If it fits the theme, if it foreshadows something, etc. Nothing is off limits, its just about what you DO with these topics. And the farther you go into them, the more respect they actually need. Not to be used for T-shirts

Interesting. I think another good example of going to far is the alien/predator franchise. In AvP2 there was the scene in the hospital with the woman in Labour. AvP2 isn’t anybody’s favorite film in the franchise but even those who enjoy the film struggle to list that moment as a highlight. That’s because the alien/predator films are equal parts fear and heroism and having a heavily pregnant woman, in Labour being further impregnated by the predation is far from heroic. Typically pregnant mothers and children are archetypes that are either saved or immune to the plot. That is why it is a huge shock when a child is killed in a film. The Blob (1988), Mutant (1984), Demon Knight (1995), Evil Dead Rise (2023) and the short story Rawhead Rex that got a feature film in 1986 all surprise you with the death of a child and the result almost always signifies that nobody is safe. Halloween 2018 is another good example after Michael kills a child (Kevin) making the scene with the babies cot a lot more tense. It confirmed that kids are not safe from Michael. Nobody is.

Yeah, just gonna regurgitate what... Well, everyone has said- The Painter was just made to shock. It has a really great premise, but it executes it poorly. I already am terrible at handling deaths of child characters, but I can acknowledge when it's a good story(Frankenstein is an absolute masterpiece, one of the greatest books of all time, but like hell am I reading it again. In something like The Prince of Egypt or even Five Nights at Freddie's, I can handle a bit better due to an afterlife being clearly set up and present in those stories), if a story is really good I can just skip over the scenes I can't take after I've already seen it. But this series is just mindless cruelty, it has no substance, there is only the bare minimum of a story, and it handles topics in the worst possible way. It really does cross the line a lot, and it's just uncomfortable. I have similar opinions to Terrifier, the first one especially just is too cruel for my taste, but at the very least they haven't shown kids getting killed in overly mean ways like the adults do(well, sorta... I think that one scene with the cereal was just a dream?). And I think it's really important to mention, if people enjoy this stuff, and see something in these types of media that I don't, good for them. I really feel bad when others paint(heh) people as monsters or downright evil for enjoying a piece of media, even if in my opinion that media crosses the line, like in The Painter.

I'm personally of the belief that anything can be written about. Just so long as you have purpose and it's not thrown in there for edge like you're trying to write the next Aristocrats joke but there is no punchline to it.

The thing with stories involving children is you could do it if it’s done right for an example fnaf Scott Cawthon did a good job writing a story about children being murdered at a pizzeria and later on getting revenge on their killer and William after actually having some goals, unlike the person who made the fan game Dormitabis where the guy just fr made a game about himself because he’s an edp.

oh what the- I have not heard of this series in awhile (last time i checked it out was when it only had 2 episodes) hella out of the loop with this, fantastic video BTW! Nice being caught up with something that slipped under my radar.

I’ve been reading some extreme horror and splatterpunk stories; while I’m certainly no expert, I feel like I can at least see the difference between horrific torture just to have really fucked up stuff happening (like Aron Beauregard’s works, or The Bighead) and something actually traumatizing like Matt Shaw or Wrath James White. There’s one book I found, Insane Bastards by Wade H. Garrett, which I couldn’t even finish. Not because it was too disturbing, but because it was basically just two depraved psychos doing fucked-up stuff to literally anyone with a shadow. There’s kind of a rule with drama and horror: you can only get so close to the top before it loops all the way back around into self-parody. Very rarely, like Aron Beauregard’s book Playground, have I ever seen it go back up to the top again but logic dictates that you can’t start at 10 and stay there.

Anything is free to be covered, that's why we have the power to write or make media about it, it's just that a lot of people don't know how to make it work, so it just becomes common exploitation

Horror is kinda like life Both challenge you and dont hold back, but thats up to the person if they can handle it

I know it's sort of a meme now but FNAF actually tackled child death with more decorum and respect than UrbanSpook did lmao. And FNAF is pretty horrific when you actually sit down to think about it.

I'm also a Koontz fan,his older books like Hideaway and Night chills freaked me out back in the day,

The fact that he doesn’t accept any types of criticism is really not a good sign.🐱

It was kinda weird that you had my live reaction video played at 3x speed in the corner of the video, but otherwise great video!

The Cory painting is actually pretty well made and it is a shirt I might actually wear, if it weren’t for the fact that it’s the face of a victim of child murder. What a horrible way to promote your work

i really liked this video, you should do more things like this, it's cool to hear something while i cook, cheers mate.

Dude… I was playing my GMod server with these Saw wielding enemies. I heard the Lawn Mower in your video and freaked out because I thought it was them lmao.

In my opinion, you can do anything for a anolog horror, but you also need a good story, but also some warnings and triggers, to warn people what its about

I think people are getting upset with Terrifier 3 for the same reasons the MPA is hard on certain movies with their ratings and not others. The measure of mainstream success is starting to be weighed alongside the content, which feels sort of unfair in the case of Terrifier. Art the Clown has always been depraved, even before his own feature films. He was just as vile in The 9th Circle and All Hallow's Eve, but they were very small scale indie flicks. Now, the creators managed to totally self fund (kickstart) and release an almost unprecedented success with Terrifier 2, and people are prepared to hold it to the standards as other movies that release and pull in those sorts of numbers in theaters. What made Terrifier 2's theatrical run a success seems like kind of a double edged sword in this way, even though it's still an indie film through and through. It's harder to brush it off as "underground" when it has a wide release that makes back the budget by a factor of fifty and the standards it is being measured by are starting to scale with the attention.

I watched half of them because I just wanted to know how it could get worse and yeah it got worse. It’s not very good

Shock horror has always been apart of horror and will forever be apart of it. I think people are over exaggerating and overreacting to Urban spooks series. Going into it i expected to see horrific visuals but to be honest I’ve seen worse.

The berzerker got me 😂 looking forward to seeing the next episode

Love your channel ❤

Very well put my friend

Just found this video, and your take on Terrifier 2 is a bit wild to me. The movie is a SLASHER film being a tribute the 80's horror icons while trying to go a bit farther with them. The little brother was absolutely injured, but why wouldn't he be? Theres NO stakes for that character if i dont know that Art is gonna actually try to get him. How many kid characters fly by in horror films? If Art gets a hold of him, that kid is boned. Full stop. Most people knew what they were getting into after the first one and enjoyed the movie immensely for what it was trying to do. Someone compared it to Hereditary here in the comments, and that's absolutely laughable. Not even close to the same caliber they were aiming for or wanted to be and that's a pretty disengenuous argument. The urbanspook guy created child characters with the soul purpose of being killed five seconds later. THAT'S garbage.

You should cover the Dark Judges: The Fall of Deadworld comics from 2000 AD.

That 1 entry said, " she was alive during the stabbing"..... fukn duh😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 kids are funny, I remember shock value

I believe if you're making horror you should be able to put anything you want in it no matter how disturbing I don't like the fact other people were trying police what he can and can't do especially other analog horror creators who also cover dark topics people should of just stuck to calling his story bad because it was

8:46 You just sold it to me, tyvm.

Terrifier 3, the first movie to ever feature a child being murdered apparently.

The Painter has the same edgy tone as Laughing Jack or Jeff the Killer and it's just terrible. It caters to edgy kids who think it's "realistic" because the antagonistic evil is not supernatural or cosmic like the vast majority of analog horror is. The Terrifer films are just throwbacks to the gore horror films of the 70s and 80s so it kinda gets a pass from me even though it's not my cup of tea.

2:47 he actually commented on Wendigoon’s video that he has no clue where that claim came from. I think the comment is pinned.

Honestly the little girl I thought was going to be Sienna Shaw from the second film.

This will be a really long comment since I have a lot of thoughts about this question a lot myself, but I hope some might agree with my takeaways. I like horror a lot in theory, but as I’ve been trying to get into it more recently, I’ve often found that much of it feels “too far,” and leaves a bad taste in my mouth - especially with gore and sexual violence. Now, one could say “wahh you’re too sensitive horror isn’t the genre for you”- except the thing is, I’m not that sensitive. There’s some media I find brilliant that includes both. Tetsuo: The Iron Man is an example that comes to mind. For those who haven’t seen it, it’s a cyberpunk body horror movie in which a guy is being turned into a scrap metal abomination. To give an example, at one point his dick turns into a giant drill, and another character commits suicide by - uh - inserting it into herself. It’s plenty gory and disturbing. Shutter and the Alien movies are other, albeit tamer examples. So why are they not “too far,” but stuff like this is? In my opinion, it basically comes down to: The Painter, Terrifier, and similar torture-porn-esque media punch down. They take vulnerable, innocent people and just put them through abject misery, and you, the viewer, are watching it from a position of safety and power. Therefore, the experience of viewing it isn’t scary - it’s objectively more similar to something like Mortal Kombat or John Wick. The difference being that in those works, the “victims” are more or less on equal footing. Reptile and Subzero are both badass roided out ninjas, so it’s not really a perpetrator/victim situation. The blood and gore is there to establish the power of the winner at having defeated their foe, not the suffering of the loser. But in something like Terrifier, the “winner” hasn’t defeated anyone. There are no stakes. The fate of Outworld doesn’t hang in the balance. It’s just fellating a murderer you have no reason to root for because he butchered a bunch of helpless schmucks who didn’t have any say in the matter. Therefore, there’s nothing for you to be invested in unless you’re a misanthrope or sadist. Because there’s no inherent reason to root for Art but there’s also little to no empathy or dignity afforded to the victims, and you already know going in that they’re going to meet gory deaths because that’s the only reason they exist at all. The movie is just nothing. It’s not scary, it’s not interesting, it’s not even really upsetting, because you know it’s fake - it’s just purposeless. Same goes for The Painter. Theres no reason to watch it unless you specifically are a fucked up person who gets off on it. However, things like Tetsuo, Shutter, and Alien put you in the shoes of the victim. Rather than just showing people getting brutally harmed, they respect the victims. They view them not as “victims,” but as PEOPLE first and foremost, in a situation where they are victimized. They acknowledge the inherent injustice being committed, and in doing so, get to the meat of WHY these atrocities are scary; because they fundamentally violate our human dignity. They saddle us with pain and affect our ability to connect to others, and sometimes they even shine lights on parts of ourselves that we’re ashamed of. The physical, material reality of flesh, skin, organs, and blood being torn apart isn’’t the scary part - that happens literally every single time any carnivorous animal eats another animal in nature. The scary part is our REACTION to that material reality when it happens to us or our fellow human beings. Fear. Grief. Violation. Suffering. In short, trauma. Trauma is the root of all horror. But addressing trauma is hard. It’s messy and uncomfortable, and inherently requires the work to treat its victims with respect and acknowledge their human dignity. So garbage like The Painter just doesn’t bother. It depicts the material reality of violent acts being committed, then stops before the actual “scary” part, which are the social and psychological issues these situations raise and the suffering experienced by the people affected. It’s lazy, disrespectful, and tasteless. It punches down. So really, my dislike of it has nothing to do with me being “sensitive,” and everything to do with the fact that it and works like it just suck. Not because they go “too far,” but because they don’t go far enough. They don’t put in the effort to address their subject matter.

I wholeheartedly respect Urbanspook Urbanslug for how far he goes with the Painter. We like to think in writing and creativity, there are lines you can not cross. And that is 100% not real. I remember reading the Jurassic park book for the first time, and it opening with the tiny dinosaurs eating a newborn baby, and the describing the mother going to check on her infant only to see the flesh be eaten off of the baby's face. So I can respect how Urbanspook does not hold anything back, and I'll give you it does kinda get satirical how far he goes every video. I also respect how he will call out and cuss out people on Twitter/X. Because we've all seen content creators with massive following kinda submit to the flack their audience gives them because they don't want to lose their audience. But the fact Urbanspook will go f@ck you to anyone who has a problem with him and his series

People are just honestly way to senstive sometimes, alot of horror fans nowadays aren't really challenged like some of us older fans were, urbanspook is bad yes, but the whole terrifer 3 thing just shows how caudled the community is, iif these people were to play silent hill 2 i bet they would whine about how "it goes too far in its themes wah wah" look i'm not gonna gatekeep horror if you like the lighter stuff enjoy it, however don't act like the harder stuff is "problematic" because its not for you. Horror needs to be judged on how well it handles these themes and shouldn't be demonize for simply having these themes

There is a horror movie in which I think you should review titles funnygames (2007) on the surface it might seem to be about the whole generic psychopaths find a family to torcher but I insure that is not what the movie wants the audience to get out of the experience plus it has some great acting in my opinion and is shot very well and I think this movie would be something you'd enjoy :⁠-⁠D

In my opinion, I think the biggest flaw of _The Painter_ is not its controversial content, but its messy presentation. I definitely think there's an argument to be made about how it trivialises horrific subjects, but the mere presence of them is not necessarily bad in and of itself; from its inception, horror has had a history of being subversive and willing to tackle taboo subjects. The thing that disengages my sense of disbelief with it, funnily enough, is the fact that the series can't decide if it's meant to be in the form of case file tapes, or public service announcements. If it's the former, then why would you end it with a call for the public to call with information about the killers on a piece of media they wouldn't be allowed to see, and if it's the latter, why would you share all this important information on the case on a public channel, where the killers could potentially see it and adapt their strategy to become even harder to catch? It's just poor writing, something that could easily be fixed with a bit of closer oversight. That being said, there are some parts of this series which I can appreciate in spite of it not really being my cup of tea; the creator definitely does know their stuff when it comes to, well, _painting_ - each new piece is uncannily detailed and suitably ghoulish to match the killers' actions in universe, though I think we can all agree that the use of one particular example as a T-shirt with the context it has in the series wasn't the best idea. The 911 call in 'Family' is also really chilling; I think the voice actor used did an outstanding job. Finally, I can't help but give it some props for at least _trying_ to do something different in a genre which has become irreversibly oversaturated by highly formulaic, nigh-identical content. In short, its position within the Analog Horror subgenre is pretty complicated.

why am i watching stuff like this so late someone help me

As long as no real person his hurt then I don’t care what art you do weather it’s garbage or not. Painter is kinda ass however there is a end date set and hopefully he improves in his next seires but knowing him i dont have high hopes

Urban Slug is a much better painter than a storyteller. It's like the story would be better if Slug showed his pictures to someone like Alex Kister or Kane Pixels and let them write the story.

I think the criticism of the series are valid, The Painter is not really a good series, is a story that seems to go nowhere, I watched it as it came out so I didn't notice how repetitive it gets when binge watching it but I think people are overreacting a bit, there's instances where shock and gorey horror can be done and it doesn't needs a big narrative behind it I don't see this discourse when surrounding stuff like disaster movies or giant monster movies, millions dying in a catastrophe is also something horrible but it is fiction. FNaF literally tells us that murdered children corpses are inside the animatronics and I've never seen someone complain about it, there's merch about said animatronics, paraphrasing Into The Depths "Try and explain your shirt about a murdered child" We all agree that child murder and SA is something beyond evil and horrible to say the least This is a fictional story intended for mature audiences, people can like it and not like it and that's okay Maybe I am desensitized to gorey stuff bcs I consumed so many bad creepypasta back when I was a teen and I don't want to seem like I'm defending The Painter series as it was a masterful analog horror work of art cus I am not but I genuinely don't get the whole fuzz surrounding it, is fine if people criticize it, mock it and dislike it but like is not the worst thing ever The real issues lay with Slug not being able to take criticism (and his rambling when responding to someone trying to insult them without using a slur)

pls review vampire hunter D

Can you do Batman no mans land

Do The Killing Joker

9:49 bro is built like the mf from slow damage

Im surprised you did not bring up another example of children dying in Analog Horror for comparison: when a kid and his mother died to a Harvester in Vita Carnis

the cory thing is an oneyplays reference though like the name of the painting and even the child, but yeah what he does with those references is pretty fucking disgusting and abhorrent and thats putting it lightly

Idk, kinda like it, It’s different lol

Love terrifier ❤️

7:23 nah bruh 💀 nah

Urban has potential but instead of focusing it as much vile content as possible he should focus on making an original storyline without just sticking horror spooky murder in your face all the time because it’s repetitive and stupid

There seems to be a massive issue nowadays with people being unable to distinguish fiction from reality. It’s as if modern culture is reverting to the ideology of 1980’s Europe. Personally, I feel no one should be off limits to tragedy in horror. No woman, no child, no nothing. I’m just sick of the plot armor. If you can’t handle it, don’t watch it. Cause call me sadistic if you want, but I love horrific deaths and disturbing subject matter in fiction. I want to be disgusted and appalled, it makes things fun. People say it’s “insensitive” and “distasteful”, but to put it bluntly, I shouldn’t have to be considerate of the feelings and emotions of sensitive individuals who shouldn’t even be watching this sort of thing in the first place. I’m a simple man who despises censorship. I just don’t want to live in a world deprived of creativity. I guess people just don’t appreciate shock value anymore. They much prefer watch actual beheading videos to feel shocked. God save your souls if you ever read the opening scene to the Jurassic Park novel.

I always thought the problem wasnt the subject matter that was presented, but rather how Urbanspook poorly portrays it

If you have shocking stuff just for shock value then your stuff won’t be enjoyable but if it’s used to progress the story then it is more acceptable

It reminds me to GnitalGrinder by Ryan Harding. Just gore cartoon and no story

Sooo… a mid story teller uses some fuked up subject matter to sell his art. He’s going for shock value? Honestly the Pinter series is more violent than it is a good plot. I personally feel like people are just too sensitive. Some people like the over the top gore and grotesque subject matters. Same reason people listen to murder podcasts.

I say, shit Happens.The real world doesn't care if its up to moral standards, honestly the worst case is the realist case

"should this be allowed?" Yes,you should be allowed to include anything you want in the fiction you're writing,but only if you treat it with the seriousness and weight that it deserves,something urbanspook does not do very well,however there's no such thing as objective limits to what is and isn't ok to include in fiction,they just don't exist,as someone who has suffered sexual assault,i actually find fiction that dances around the subject and uses euphamistic language to describe something so raw to be pretty infantalizing,unless it's a medium directed at a younger audience,just fucking say it,say rape,say sexual assault,say murder,don't try to sugarcoat it,tell it like it is,your story will be better off for it,just don't go too over the top with it and use it just for tasteless shock value,like urbanspook in this case...

So... you think that nothing should be off the table unless it's something that you think should be off the table. If the characters in "The Painter" were real people, then sure, there's something to be said about whether or not it's appropriate. But, it's all fictional. As for the story being "bad" - it seems to me that "The Painter" isn't really a narrative; but rather just lore for Urbanslug's art. To be clear: I have not watched "The Painter", nor have I watched any of the "Terrifier" movies; nor do I have any interest in doing so. But, I don't think there's anything wrong with either, and as long as there's nothing illegal then it's not really anyone's business.

May I ask someone to enlighten me on what are the differences between SA and r*pe?

He's right,if u don't like it why you watching it then

The painter had potential, if there was solid storytelling, not involving sensitive/SUPER gory and over the top, and doing something more with the images. Which it’s his choice but🤷🏽‍♀️

UrbanSpook isn’t any worse than Lacy or Lisa or Dreaming Mary or Misao Watching people flip out is kinda funny I’m sorry does it offend their sensibilities that the victim is a little boy instead of a little girl?

It's poorly handled, hos reaction was poorly done, and its boring have basically been my complaints. Talking about there being a story and meaning something is exactly what I had been hoping for when I first heard about it and ended up disappointed in the lack of. It ended up quickly feeling like a disappointing lost potential situation, because it really did seem intriguing at first just to ultimately continue to go nowhere. I have heard the most recent stuff is showing promise again, and I do wish the guy well. Can't blame anyone who doesn't want anything to do with it at this point, though. I'm not particularly inclined to put my time towards watching it currently tbh.

I don't really get all the hate the painter gets. Yes, it's completely centered around shock value. Yes, it doesn't really tell any kind of story. Yes, it's very "meh" in general and the only thing it has going for it is the images are kinda cool. And yet, despite the painter being just a boring gore fest, I see video after vide o popping up in my recommended tab talking about how bad this horror series is. Why does it get so much attention? I also don't understand why does inclusion of children in a horror story requires some special treatment. It's like murder, SA, torture being there just for shock value is fine. Kids involved? Now murder, SA and torture have to be used to convey a deep message about childhood innocence or something.

There are many subjects that I believe are outright irresponsible for creators to use in their content, and I would suggest that they steer clear of those types of subjects when possible. HOWEVER I would never force anyone to do anything that they don’t want with their own art (even if I might not personally consider it art), and I would NEVER cede control of what is considered “tasteful” to a government body.

Gore slop basically

urbanSPOOK I think (in my opinion) took it a biiiiiit too far with uh...Cory. yes, things like this can be added into horror, but it really shouldn't be executed in the way they did it. first of all, using SA in general is a very sensitive topic and should be danced around carefully, and using it for shock value...I honestly think it isn't a good approach at all. ESPECIALLY the CLOTHING with Cory on it being SOLD, fully using the idea of a child being murdered and assaulted. that is the most bothersome part of this series to me.

Bros unaware how comically disturbingly bonkers rl serial killers can be

"she was only 2 months old" wow, only 2 months old, isnt that just so spooky? aren't you spooked? preferably in an urban fashion?

I don’t know why people need to in include sensitive subjects just to shook the audience

In my eyes there isn’t any limit for what you can and cannot do as long as you are using it wisely and not just for shock value, urban spook sucks at using these sensitive topics because he just uses it for shock value which just makes it lazy and repetitive

Both extreme body horror and sa can work in a story when done right. DOOM’s gore and brutality, especially when it comes to Doomguy butchering demons, is to show his rage at the harm the demons cause to innocent people. In both Berserk and the movie Barbarian, sa is used to show how terrible people can be to eachother, especially women. Gore can also be used to establish a character and the threat they pose. It’s just edge for the sake of edge, and while I enjoy some things that are dark and fucked up pretty much just for the sake of being dark and fucked up, such as the death metal band Cannibal Corpse, at least there’s some passion that goes into the music, and I enjoy it. There’s no passion in the “story” of Urbanspook. It’s just Urbanslug coming up with demented ways to kill people because he thinks it makes him cool, and because he’s a spiteful bastard. He’s a bit childish if I’m being honest

Urbanspook is like the Terrifier movies. Their both Ass and do the same thing over and over and over and over and *OVER*

to me there's a very solid difference between the painter and terrifier and why i find the painter annoying while i find terrifier extremely charming and fun. they both go for very low hanging fruits of shock value but the painter is pretentious as hell about it while terrifier doesn't take itself seriously. and i respect that way more - you don't need to have a point to make everytime or whatever in my opinion but you can at least own up to it

it should be allowed but i'm glad that the majority of people Go 'ew what the fuck is wrong with you' and turn away

UrbanSpook And Damien Leone Are Two Different People For God's Sake 😒

I think with any art form, you do have to accept that it may not be for everyone. If his choice is to go crass, then that is a choice that he should accept isn't going to be for everyone, and he can defend it however he wants. However, there's crass, and then there's inconsistent. I dont think you can make a series about how horrible these crimes are and then throw up a merch plug for them like its nothing. At best, it kills the impact in the story as just a cheap reason to advertise a t-shirt, and, at worst, it's glorifying a try-hard serial killer. Sure, no one has a problem with Joker merchandise after everything he's done, but at that point conflating a random obscure internet series with one of the most iconic villains in pop history is just self-congratulatory.

Probably the same people who whined about Berserk are whining about this. If these people had it their way we would only be able to watch silly cat videos on RU-vid.

The terrifier franchise sucks

The worst part about the painter is UrbanSpook in general. The minute he got any criticism he immediately proved everybody correct and showed his ass. Everybody was saying it was just shocked for the sake of shock value, and then all he did was immediately add another episode with more shock just for shock value. He was simultaneously claiming that they were wrong, while literally doing the exact same thing he was claiming not to be doing at all. His personality is garbage, and his insecurities about his work shows when he attacks everybody that criticizes it. He's a terrible creator, and to be honest I don't even think his paintings are that good. But at the end of the day, it's one thing to use something for shock value, it's another to like write stories and make paintings about it. I feel like people who spend their free time painting pictures about women being raped by animals and children being raped and mutilated, should probably be looked into by the authorities. The dude is off his rocker, this isn't just like shock value stuff, this is stuff that he spends hours painting and obsessing over and then decided to put it on the internet and claim it was an ARG.

He’s a good artist. Just isn’t good at writing, pacing, and many elements of storytelling.

I personally love gore like terrifier I think you can could even kill kid but urban spook sucks not the violence I love it but the writing is trash you made an arg that I thought people like me who love violence would be good but you even failed that

Also, I believe in free speech, and sometimes free speech can take people to dark places and that should be allowed, despite popular belief, free speech is not infinite. You can’t say anything you want like shouting bomb on a crowded plane or drawing a painting of a nàked child. There’s actually a law against the latter, CP is illegal in any form, even written form like a story and honestly the F-boy painting based on an actual picture of an underaged boy might actually cross that line with some judges. But even if it doesn’t, I feel like graphic images or stories that go into detail or show detail of child murder or SA should be lumped into the same category as CP legally speaking, and made illegal. I’m not saying we can’t have stories like Stephen kings IT where a monster hunts or eats kids but we don’t see it, that’s different. But a graphics story detailing the disembowelment of two 11 year olds in order to make a pleasure doll should be considered inappropriate in the extreme, and considered a violation of youtube’s policies at the very least

Your sensitivity is laughable

I guess I have to check out “the painter” now. I do enjoy fucked upness and feeling disturbed though so haha there ya go.